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I have been obessing over my battery stat page and am trying to figure out what exactly "Android System" is. It is usually consuming the highest percentage of battery power. I have tried everything to figure out what action exactly makes Android System get added to the battery stats page. I have disabled everything, every radio, syncing, deleted all widgets. I hardly have any apps as it is. It just seems rather inconsistent because sometimes Ill check the page after making a call and will find that Voice calls has consumed a small percentage of battery and Android System isn't even on the list. Other times I will take it off the charger and make a 30 minute call, but when I check the stats page 70% battery was used by Android System and only 3% was Voice Calls.
Can anyone tell me exactly what triggers Android System so I can make sure I cut down on its battery usage in any way possible
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I assume you are looking in the settings > about phone > battery. You can select android system also and it will tell you more info.
Agoattamer said:
I assume you are looking in the settings > about phone > battery. You can select android system also and it will tell you more info.
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I see that but under more info its not very clear about what's using the batt.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1312932238053.png
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Anyone have any comments on this?
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Did a battery calibration and now android system isn't the number 1 thing consuming battery as usual. Weird:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/testshot.png
This seems to be more in line with what normal battery usage should look like in my opinion.
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I had this problem too until I did a calibration. Now cell standby consumes over 50% of my battery regularly, with android system consuming only 2%.
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Yea I did a calibration and all is well
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1313102466360.png
Thank you
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Aaaaaaaaand were back LOL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1313118381659.png
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Its still occurring
What would you guys do?
Android system will occasionally use CPU as well, as shown in the following screenshots. Also! My good buddy let me see his Droid x recently. He had 42% battery life left and android system had only taken up 4% of that.
I'm pretty upset about this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1314312490137.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1314312473018.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/seh6183/screenshot-1314312512785.png
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If you asked me I would say all your values are a little screwy. Do you even turn the screen on, on your phone and use it? If you use your phone the Display should be by far the most used. To me it looks like you physically use your phone very little. That is why Phone idle and Android System seem to be the higher numbers.
Guessing you have many accounts syncing in the background. One of the biggies for Android System. So its not that Android System is using so much, the rest of the processes are using so little.
Oddly enough the same thing started happening with my phone recently too.
@Agoattamer
The system wouldn't eat most of the charge in less than 8 hours in normal circumstances. Also about your question concerning accounts, while I'm not seh6183, personally I only have my email account synchronizing and the very same thing happens.
Something is causing the CPU to remain awake, in my case stuck at 800MHz.
The factory reset will most likely solve it, but it'd be best to find the culprit to just try and rectify a specific anomaly rather than reinstalling the whole system.
Has recently any core Google apps been updated? Email, Maps, anything?
I do agree that in 8 hours of non physical use your battery should not be going dead. So I couldn't sleep last night and I did some google searching. Here are some things I found out.
Do you have Googles Goggles installed? Seems it may have a bug where it keeps the camera on even when the phone is supposedly asleep.
Seeing that seh6183 always has his wifi active maybe it has something to do with wifi. I found this from Juri's TechBlog
couple of days ago I finally got the eagerly awaited system upgrade to Gingerbread on my Nexus One. The update went pretty well, although some Nexus One users reported about problems with the updating process. The only thing I noticed is that Dropbox didn't work after the upgrade.
A re-install solved the issue. All-in-all Gingerbread is great. Beside UI enhancements it feels also faster than Froyo. However, after trying it for two days now, I noticed a substantial increase in battery consumption. By looking at the system battery stats (Settings -> About phone -> Battery use), Android System was listed to consume 23% of the battery .
Apparently the problem is a bug in Gingerbread version 2.3.3 (you know there is 2.4 as well) on how the system handles the Wifi adapter. If you go into your Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi settings, press the menu button and click on "Advanced", you'll see a menu entry "Wi-Fi sleep policy". Gingerbread seems to have a problem when that option is set to "When screen turns off". While that may sound to be the most energy-saving option, the bug turns it into a battery killer. If you switch the option to "Never", the Android system will only consume ~3% in the battery stats.
Obviously, in addition to this, the best battery saver is to just turn Wi-Fi off when you don't need it . Caution, if one of the future updates fixes this problem (which I strongly hope), you have to set the option back again.
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Something I didn't see but killed my battery on my windows mobile phone was instant messengers. Do you use any apps that are for instant messaging.
Found this thread also talking about the same bug with wifi
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15057
So it seems that if you (cmdr001) also are a full time wifi user, you may be affected by the same bug. Check your wifi sleep policy and adjust your settings to "Never".
Install a battery monitor app from the market or spare parts to see what is using your battery. Install Juice Defender to stop all that excessive useage.
Excellent find!!!!!
Just switched the sleep policy to "never" (which ironically I've always used until very recently). Ill return with results after about 5 hours. The only thing is that I'm on android 2.3.5 not 3.3 so we will have to see if the bug was affecting me.
I also don't have Google goggles. And to the above poster, my phone regularly went into deep sleep so it wasn't my CPU that was staying active.
Oh and I've been using watch dog to look for rogue programs for the last 24 hours. I haven't got a single alert.
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I guess the first question should have been what ROM were you using and to try a different one then. Needless to say it still has 2.3.3 components in it. And if you recently changed that setting then my bet is thats the issue. Goodluck.
Watchdog may alert you if you are using too much cpu at one time but I don't think it will let you know what is constantly using the cpu.
Ok there's a glitch somewhere in the battery tracking. I just checked it and android system was consuming 12% battery. I placed one 17 minute phone call and re checked it, I then had 57% android system consumption.
No way.
I'm using a cm7 nightly and I'm about to flash the stable version with a different kernel. Ill do a full wipe as well.
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You could check your wakelocks.
After recharging my battery to 100% and wiping the battery stats, my android system consistently uses 2% of the battery, while the display sucks up around ~40%.
Before I begin I just want to say that I have been using Android for a while and understand wakelocks etc. I have already made sure none of my apps are causing wake locks by uninstalling them but it has made no difference.
Here are my GSam screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/1Cp9z#0
As you can see, Android System and Android OS are the culprits that are draining my battery, but the phone isn't "awake" when they are draining it, so I am not quite sure what is happening. There is no wake-lock but there is a lot of CPU usage for some reason,
Please ignore the average times shown by GSam at the bottom, I get nowhere near 5hrs screen time, I reset the histories yesterday so its not yet calculated average properly yet.
I have tried - Stock COS11S, the latest COS 12.1 and also CyanogenMod 12.1 nightlies and the recent snapshot and they all exhibit this issue even with no apps installed. Is there a ROM out there that has no issues with this stuff?
Thanks!
Same problem. No idea the solution. No matter what battery app I use to try and tell me what is going on, it's always just listed as "android system" or "system" that is draining battery. I didn't have this on sultan's build so I guess it's back to that.
I dont want to give yo spoilers...
you can try every rom here, every kernel, every mod...
it really up to your personal use... you do this 3 simple things and like me will reach 5, 6 hours SOT.
disable lte and go for EDGE
restrict privacy guards things on apps: keep awake, auto start, wake up... on every app you install
use your social network on browsers... installed apps use background...
Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text
are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???
bablu048 said:
are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???
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lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
My experience with other devices: depending on the quality of your signal strength your battery can vary heavily. But i guess, thats something you already know. I, btw. have a good 4g signal here.
aVe2000 said:
lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
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well cheers, we have the same goal. i used amplify+greenify then i uninstalled exposed and started testing how long i could extend battery on stock and doze+greenify. i have removed maximum google apps and i am constantly getting 1+hour of SOT for every 10% battery. i am on dual sim[one of it is roaming] and i am on mobile data. now i am gonna give exposed another shot, hope radiofix works this time.
'Mobile standby' is a problem i have tried to fix it many times but failed, it eats battery when i am on data which is always, if you find a solution please post it here.
you could disable background data for play services to squeeze more juice out of your battery and about mail app drain i suggest you take a look at F-Droid it's a collection of open source softwares.
aVe2000 said:
Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text
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But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
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I found that disabling background data for affect apps seemed to help on 5.1, but this limits device experience.
I'm on MM now and usually get all day stand by and about 5 to 6 hours SOT. Today I have 5 hours of voice calls and 2 of SOT and am at 40% battery which isn't bad. Off charge at 5:30 am and it is currently 8:30pm. That's excellent for me. MM is a great update for battery on these phones.
Edit: I meant to say as well that the 5 hours of voice was over a Bluetooth headset. Pretty busy day
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But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
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I am not sure about this. In europe its still not rolled out (at least not in germany).
aVe2000 said:
please delete
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Why
you can play with the values of animation in developer options,
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Hi All,
Got my OP6 a few days ago, I've come back to android after having to endure iOS on an iPhone 6s+
Things seem to have changed since I had my last android phone (Oneplus One).
I can't seem to find much detail about what is actually using up my battery.
When looking at tips online for reducing battery usage I keep seeing this battery stats screen for oreo (presumably AOSP or some very unmodified version from google).
The battery stats screen has a sub menu inside by pressing on the 3 dots in the top right which displays "Batttery Optimisation" and "Show full device usage".
On the OP6 Its accessible via Settings>Battery. However there is no 3 dots button in the top right that i keep seeing everywhere.
Has this menu been removed from Oxygen OS or something?
What are you guys all doing to reduce battery usage?
(I would post screenshots to describe better but my post count limits me - can't remember my old login here!)
Tia
silent08 said:
Hi All,
Got my OP6 a few days ago, I've come back to android after having to endure iOS on an iPhone 6s+
Things seem to have changed since I had my last android phone (Oneplus One).
I can't seem to find much detail about what is actually using up my battery.
When looking at tips online for reducing battery usage I keep seeing this battery stats screen for oreo (presumably AOSP or some very unmodified version from google).
The battery stats screen has a sub menu inside by pressing on the 3 dots in the top right which displays "Batttery Optimisation" and "Show full device usage".
On the OP6 Its accessible via Settings>Battery. However there is no 3 dots button in the top right that i keep seeing everywhere.
Has this menu been removed from Oxygen OS or something?
What are you guys all doing to reduce battery usage?
(I would post screenshots to describe better but my post count limits me - can't remember my old login here!)
Tia
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The battery optimization section is the button right under the battery saver option
silent08 said:
Hi All,
Got my OP6 a few days ago, I've come back to android after having to endure iOS on an iPhone 6s+
Things seem to have changed since I had my last android phone (Oneplus One).
I can't seem to find much detail about what is actually using up my battery.
When looking at tips online for reducing battery usage I keep seeing this battery stats screen for oreo (presumably AOSP or some very unmodified version from google).
The battery stats screen has a sub menu inside by pressing on the 3 dots in the top right which displays "Batttery Optimisation" and "Show full device usage".
On the OP6 Its accessible via Settings>Battery. However there is no 3 dots button in the top right that i keep seeing everywhere.
Has this menu been removed from Oxygen OS or something?
What are you guys all doing to reduce battery usage?
(I would post screenshots to describe better but my post count limits me - can't remember my old login here!)
Tia
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You can also get to this by tapping the battery/battery percent in the settings
Thanks,
I did find the battery optimisation setting - However the one im more intereted in finding is "Show full device usage".
If you google this:
"Android Oreo feature spotlight: More traditional battery stats make a return with 'Show full device usage' setting"
The first article shows a screenshot of the exact menu I'm trying to find.
silent08 said:
Thanks,
I did find the battery optimisation setting - However the one im more intereted in finding is "Show full device usage".
If you google this:
"Android Oreo feature spotlight: More traditional battery stats make a return with 'Show full device usage' setting"
The first article shows a screenshot of the exact menu I'm trying to find.
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That screen shot is stock Android we aren't on stock Android so obviously you won't find the exact same menu
I don't expect to find the same menu.
My question was does this menu exist somewhere on our devicea?
It looks like my battery stats only show user applications rather than the whole system.
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
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Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
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I've installed the latest beta Google Play Services, and battery drain has improved somewhat, still testing though.
Nandiman said:
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
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the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
moreogthanu said:
the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
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After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
Nandiman said:
After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
Nandiman said:
Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
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Draw over other apps stays on so does modify system settings