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4.3 "gremlins"- wifi/data drops on sleep, partial screen responsiveness, black screen
Background: I went from rooted 4.1.2 (stock TW) to old&slow's 4.3 TW ML1 ROM just a little over two weeks ago (ROM thread found HERE).
-Full data wipe, cache, dalvik, etc
-Reinstalled all apps CLEANLY (didn't use any TiBu backups at all)
-No modem-related problems, etc (I'm still using the MF1 baseband version- I had no connectivity problems when I installed this custom ROM)
-Using Xposed framework (various modules: AndroidTunerFree, Disable Clear Default Diag, DisableBatteryFullAlert, Greenify, SamsungMultiple Widgets, and a few others that are app specific like Snapshare and Keepchat)
Very impressed with the ROM. I plan to keep it.
Problems (these only started happening this past week):
-Almost every time I unlock my phone (using a PIN), it's just a black screen. Every time I have to hit the home button and then it brings me to my home screen. Is there a way to find out what is bringing up this black screen (surely it's an app? Right?)
-All wifi and 3G/4G data signals are dropped as soon as I turn my phone's screen off. I know this is a common problem reported with 4.3, but with the hours and hours of reading I've done, there doesn't seem to be a consensus about what causes it, or a solution.
***RELATED TO THIS MAY BE THAT I INSTALLED the "JellyBean 4.x Airplane Mode Helper 1.0" Xposed module. My phone started being stupid once that was installed. I disabled, uninstalled, reinstalled, etc but to no effect (I find no way to configure the module's behavior itself). And no, wifi-lock apps have had NO effect.
-It's happened semi-regularly that my phone will not register screen touches- on lockscreen, home screen, etc. Not even the capacitive touch buttons. Hardware buttons work, but there's no way for me to make screen selections. The ONLY thing I have found works is that I am for some reason still able to drag down the notification bar and play around with things through there, so I think it's related to NovaLauncher Prime. To that end, I enabled "Aggressive Desktop" in NLP, which has "solved" the problem...but I want to know if there was an underlying problem so I can just solve it once and for all.
-Waze voice guidance only speaks the last syllable of the directions it's giving me. Never had this problem with 4.1.2. I've read some places that it's related to 4.3 specifically--so it's Waze's problem to fix--but I might as well ask about this one too. It makes Waze navigation almost useless, and a safety issue as I drive (since I can't just use the voice- I'd have to look away from the road to look at my phone, which can get me a huge ticket here in Utah).
Some more info on the wifi/data drop issue:
-Telephony services do NOT drop, and all pushes DO go through (Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, etc) as if the data signal is present. But looking at my system's battery settings, it is obvious that data of any kind is on ONLY when the phone's screen is turned on. It's essentially acting like Mobile Data is turned off unless a push is received, which normally I wouldn't mind (since it means apps aren't using data on their own when my phone is off). Problem is, I don't want things like Skype (which I rely on for work) dropping just because my screen is off. Nor do I want to keep my screen on forever, to preserve battery life.
-I considered that it might be an issue with my router. So I assigned my router to reserve my phone's IP, and locked the IP my phone uses on my home network, so I don't get any of the "signal is unstable" problems. None of these had ANY effect, and it happens with all wifi access points I've used in the past with no problems.
Any and all insights on any of these three issues would be absolutely great.
Hi everyone !
I've been using this phone for a week now and I'm super happy with it, great performances, awesome screen, very well built, an all around good experience. Except for one thing.
I've been testing many scenarios with it to try to understand what is going on with my phone...
Whether it's on aeroplane mode, on mobile data or on wifi, once the screen is off, the pedometer and the GPS stop working. When the screen is on they work perfectly. The pedometer sensor (I use the "sensors test" app) shows me only 493 steps whereas the pedometer sensor on my Xperia Z3 Compact shows 8905 steps for the day (I walk a lot at work). And yes I've got both phones in my pockets.
Apps such as Google Fit, Lifelog, FitBit don't count my steps. On Google Fit I can no longer "start activity" because when I checked the phone the GPS is inaccurate. When the screen is off, my location is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and it goes back and forth like that.
I precise that I already checked every setting needed for the apps to work perfectly such as:
Access to my location is ON
Mode is "Use GPS, Wi-Fi and mobile networks : High Accuracy"
"Apps with usage access" is enabled for the specified apps
Specified apps are "protected apps" which means they're supposedly "running after the screen is off"
Background data is allowed on those apps
"System Wakeup" & "Keep running after screen off" are enabled for the specified apps
And finally, for my Xperia Z3c, even if in airplane mode, the phone tracks my steps all day long and once I'm back home connected to the Wifi, it uploads my data to the server.
If anyone can help me, it'd be greatly appreciated!
Put those GPS accessing apps and your Pedometer app in protected list, they might be getting low priority after screen off, putting them in the protected list will let them run even after the screen is off. To put them in Protected Apps list go to Settings > Advanced Settings > Battery Manager > Protected Apps
I hope this helps you.
DigiGoon said:
Put those GPS accessing apps and your Pedometer app in protected list, they might be getting low priority after screen off, putting them in the protected list will let them run even after the screen is off. To put them in Protected Apps list go to Settings > Advanced Settings > Battery Manager > Protected Apps
I hope this helps you.
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They're all already protected apps. That's what I don't understand... Everything is done so that all the apps should be running perfectly.
The thing that intrigues the most is the actual step counter sensor of the phone that stops just a little bit after I lock the device (screen off). I use for that that the "sensor tests" app. That application is also protected (and doesn't require any mobile network or Wifi to work) so even if it stops, wouldn't the number of steps increases/updates once I put the screen on? It's like it literally stops recording my steps/just goes into a coma ;D
Thsoukieo said:
They're all already protected apps. That's what I don't understand... Everything is done so that all the apps should be running perfectly.
The thing that intrigues the most is the actual step counter sensor of the phone that stops just a little bit after I lock the device (screen off). I use for that that the "sensor tests" app. That application is also protected (and doesn't require any mobile network or Wifi to work) so even if it stops, wouldn't the number of steps increases/updates once I put the screen on? It's like it literally stops recording my steps/just goes into a coma ;D
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That's strange, it should get updated. Well, it should be updated even the screen is off, have you tried doing factory reset? Maybe it can solve, but it is highly unlikely though.
DigiGoon said:
That's strange, it should get updated. Well, it should be updated even the screen is off, have you tried doing factory reset? Maybe it can solve, but it is highly unlikely though.
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I've done a factory reset for something else I couldn't solve at that time (on the day I got the phone and personalized it lol) which is now solved.
So now that I know more about the phone and its settings, I've created a backup and will do another factory reset (likely tomorrow). *Fingers crossed*
My brother got a Honor 5C, I'll try to take his phone for a day and see if he has the same problem or not (doesn't have the same utilisation for his phone as mine)
Thsoukieo said:
So now that I know more about the phone and its settings, I've created a backup and will do another factory reset (likely tomorrow). *Fingers crossed*
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Okay, do it and report, so that we can know if it solves the problem or not.
DigiGoon said:
Okay, do it and report, so that we can know if it solves the problem or not.
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So I did a factory reset this morning and went on a walk after installing my two favourite apps: Google Fit and Lifelog.
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Everything was tracked during the hour walk! The GPS worked perfectly! Even the application "Health" from Huawei worked too. All 3 had almost the same number of steps.
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Seeing that everything worked I therefore reinstalled all my applications and stuff, being careful of the settings.
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But, and unfortunately there is a but ...
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This afternoon I went for another walk, and oddly only Google Fit recorded my steps. The number rose to 6,500 while the number of steps from Health and Lifelog remained unchanged at 3700 (those at the end of the morning walk)
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I really don't understand anymore...
Thsoukieo said:
Seeing that everything worked I therefore reinstalled all my applications and stuff, being careful of the settings.
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But, and unfortunately there is a but ...
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This afternoon I went for another walk, and oddly only Google Fit recorded my steps. The number rose to 6,500 while the number of steps from Health and Lifelog remained unchanged at 3700 (those at the end of the morning walk)
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I really don't understand anymore...
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How many apps and stuffs you installed?
DigiGoon said:
How many apps and stuffs you installed?
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When I go to the "apps" menu, I counted 84 (~35 apps from Google Play + Huawei own apps).
Could there be one app messing with everything?
I think so, try deleting all the apps which requires location except the two which you use to measure your steps.
Hi! Did you worked out what was wrong with the pedometer? I am having the same issue.
It is a software issue. The way the oem coded the OS for good battery life has come with many issues like many things shutting down when the screen goes off.
Hi there,
The S8+ (Exynos) was the smoothest phone I've ever had. It ran perfectly, with no lag/stutter whatsoever, it was butter smooth. That until the last update...(The May update with Bluetooth and SD card stability ; Android May security patch).
Now, the phone lags/stutters/drops frames in everything - it affects the UI animations, the scrolling in almost every app (even in settings), any game (even the least demanding game), browsing, the phone also has keyboard input lag. It also scores very low scores in benchmark apps (about half of what it should score). The phone also heats up for no reason, especially during charging (it was never heating up before the update).
What I've tried (with no effect):
- Disabling all features from Settings, down to the smallest details. Disabling all bloatware apps from settings (Samsung apps, Word, etc.).
- Cleaning Cache/RAM/Junk files with Device Maintenance, Clean Master and SD Maid (and uninstalling those apps afterwards)
- Manually cleaning cache from all apps (all 300+ of them, including system apps)
- Manually force stopping all apps (all 300+ of them)
- Uninstalling all User-installed apps
- Wipe Cache from Recovery Mode
- Manually stopping all running Services from Developer options
- Setting no backround services option in Developer options
- Disabling all safe-to-disable apps (including system ones) using BK disabler
- Several Restarts
- Complete factory reset (from Recovery Mode) and instaliing all apps from scratch. Then, doing all the things above.
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PS: Animations are not only lagging/stuttering, but they are also glitching in some way (hard to describe, but little artifacts appear when minimizing/maximizing apps).
The screen also developed slight burn in (visible on gray image) in the notification and navigation bar area, although I use it with less than 50% brightness and with AOD disabled
Nothing worked. The phone has very brief moments when the animation lag dissapears, but then it starts back. The phone is now working worse than it did with the Battery Saving Option activated before the update.
I am aware that probably most of you don't have this issue. If you know anything that could help, please tell me.
-Should I take it to warranty ? ( I'm afraid that they will open it up and it will loose its water resistance)
- Any way of rolling back the update?
Thanks.
DO you have root? Custom rom?
No, I don't have ROOT or Custom ROM. Just Stock.
Do you have any accessibility service enabled?
No, everything is disabled.
M. Tomescu said:
No, everything is disabled.
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There are certain ways to check your dropped frames. A quick Google gave me this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...evice-has-dropped-frame-issues-or-not_id70744
Go to www.sammobile.com or www.updato.com and download previous software and flash back to that. You can downgrade as long as the bootloader number is the same which it is. BL number is always 5th from the last number, its currently 1.
Quickvic30 said:
Go to www.sammobile.com or www.updato.com and download previous software and flash back to that. You can downgrade as long as the bootloader number is the same which it is. BL number is always 5th from the last number, its currently 1.
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or try reinstalling the latest from here once again! May have been a dodgy installation process.
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Will this void warranty or affect flash counter?
M. Tomescu said:
Hi there,
The S8+ (Exynos) was the smoothest phone I've ever had. It ran perfectly, with no lag/stutter whatsoever, it was butter smooth. That until the last update...(The May update with Bluetooth and SD card stability ; Android May security patch).
Now, the phone lags/stutters/drops frames in everything - it affects the UI animations, the scrolling in almost every app (even in settings), any game (even the least demanding game), browsing, the phone also has keyboard input lag. It also scores very low scores in benchmark apps (about half of what it should score). The phone also heats up for no reason, especially during charging (it was never heating up before the update).
What I've tried (with no effect):
- Disabling all features from Settings, down to the smallest details. Disabling all bloatware apps from settings (Samsung apps, Word, etc.).
- Cleaning Cache/RAM/Junk files with Device Maintenance, Clean Master and SD Maid (and uninstalling those apps afterwards)
- Manually cleaning cache from all apps (all 300+ of them, including system apps)
- Manually force stopping all apps (all 300+ of them)
- Uninstalling all User-installed apps
- Wipe Cache from Recovery Mode
- Manually stopping all running Services from Developer options
- Setting no backround services option in Developer options
- Disabling all safe-to-disable apps (including system ones) using BK disabler
- Several Restarts
- Complete factory reset (from Recovery Mode) and instaliing all apps from scratch. Then, doing all the things above.
----
PS: Animations are not only lagging/stuttering, but they are also glitching in some way (hard to describe, but little artifacts appear when minimizing/maximizing apps).
The screen also developed slight burn in (visible on gray image) in the notification and navigation bar area, although I use it with less than 50% brightness and with AOD disabled
Nothing worked. The phone has very brief moments when the animation lag dissapears, but then it starts back. The phone is now working worse than it did with the Battery Saving Option activated before the update.
I am aware that probably most of you don't have this issue. If you know anything that could help, please tell me.
-Should I take it to warranty ? ( I'm afraid that they will open it up and it will loose its water resistance)
- Any way of rolling back the update?
Thanks.
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Seems like you need a factory reset.
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Update: After a second factory reset, I have disabled all the apps in the ,,Bloatware" Section of BK Disabler (50+ non-user-installed apps) and the animation glitches/artifacts + overheating dissapeared. The scroll lag also seems mostly gone. Basically the problems dissapeared completely (so happy).
I'm currently waiting to see if the situation remains the same. I believe that the problems were caused by some sort of interaction between one of the apps and the new security patch.
Advice: DON'T disable any System apps (from BK Disabler). I've noticed that even by disabling one(any) of them, the phone overheats and a lot of errors occur in the background (checked the system recovery logs), because a lot of apps rely on each other.
Good to know... keep us posted.
Lol samcex...you are a great reader )...he already tried this)) Anyway I can't confirm this(my animation are disabled from dev option), but.... a small feeling that the phone is a more laggy is on my mind too...Something has changed.
M. Tomescu said:
Update: After a second factory reset, I have disabled all the apps in the ,,Bloatware" Section of BK Disabler (50+ non-user-installed apps) and the animation glitches/artifacts + overheating dissapeared. The scroll lag also seems mostly gone. Basically the problems dissapeared completely (so happy).
I'm currently waiting to see if the situation remains the same. I believe that the problems were caused by some sort of interaction between one of the apps and the new security patch.
Advice: DON'T disable any System apps (from BK Disabler). I've noticed that even by disabling one(any) of them, the phone overheats and a lot of errors occur in the background (checked the system recovery logs), because a lot of apps rely on each other.
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Hey friend , do u have a list of apps that u disabled ? Im having this problem too its crazy i love this phone but lags when i press home buttoj from facebook to go to home page ? Have to wait 1.5 secs to go to settings , which in that case it should just go immediately in my opinion , i press the power button to wake up the screen and a big lag while the screen is oppening , idk i tried reset and everything nothing helps..maybe u can give me a list of apps i should disable please
pemell said:
Do you have any accessibility service enabled?
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Does enabling apps accessibility service slow the phone down?
so does anyone else experience this "press power button to unlock phone but only red light comes on for the iris scanner and screen remains black"? even after a few clicks until eventually screen goes on?(fingerprint doesn't even bring screen on)
magicoolje said:
Lol samcex...you are a great reader )...he already tried this)) Anyway I can't confirm this(my animation are disabled from dev option), but.... a small feeling that the phone is a more laggy is on my mind too...Something has changed.
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Haha it was a long post .
True
https://www.xda-developers.com/the-...r-community-radically-improved-my-experience/
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
BUMP
try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
It seems that you have several bugs and if they all start happening after you have installed the latest update, then expect a patch coming soon.
MINTED7 said:
try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
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I have actually done that. Found very limited success. I'm also finding very few results on this topic. Surely it's not just me though.
And I'm dreading the idea of a hard reset as I have many things on my phones, not all of which is sync'd to the cloud so it's a task to back things up appropriate. Specifically regarding "encrypted" apps like my password keeper app etc.
It would be great if there was a software application that allowed you to backup whatever is necessary to not lose data, then wipe the phone and instead of just simply restoring the full phone (which is likely to create the same problem one had before the hard reset), you could simply dump back in app data as needed. It would also help diagnose if the problem lies in a specific app's data.
High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.
[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
Samsung smart switch works wonders, the only thing that doesn't restore is passwords, you have to have and external SD card for it to work, or plug it in to a computer
talonpetty said:
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
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Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple interfaces.
norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple apps/interfaces.
High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.
[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.