Has anyone used this company before? - Xperia Z5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I found this on google. Seems like a good price for the Z5's. Was wondering if anyone has used this company before?
I don't want to be wasting my money if it turns out to be a scam website.
http://www.nigelohara.com/sony-xperia-z5-premium-sim-free-android-black12987176-pid292799.html
http://www.nigelohara.com/sony-xperia-z5-sim-free-android-green12984480-pid292796.html

does look a little dodgy and the fact they say the price was £740 for the premium and £626 for normal seems a little off as ive never seen them advertised as that. They offer paypal so you'll have protection from them if go down that route.

Fulwood Sedge said:
does look a little dodgy and the fact they say the price was £740 for the premium and £626 for normal seems a little off as ive never seen them advertised as that. They offer paypal so you'll have protection from them if go down that route.
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Ive emailed them and they said all their handsets are UK stock so I might try them out and pay using paypal.

kamalaggi said:
Ive emailed them and they said all their handsets are UK stock so I might try them out and pay using paypal.
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Mate, the normal Z5 should only be £550-£560. Haven't looked at the site but I'd say they're dodgy.

Before I buy from a website I've never heard (or seen) of I usually check their facebook page first, if they have one.
I checked Nigel O'Hara (with 40k likes) just now (and their Shop Now button went to the website you linked just to make sure it was the same) and all I saw in the comments on their posts was words like con, thieves, give money back and so on.
Also google for reviews, it doesn't look too good

It's a fake site used by scammers.

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UK price - Online for £359.88...

..delivered next day, seems a good price or a mistake as it appears to be £110 cheaper than anywhere else, or are prices on the way down.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1351/htc-touch-pro
err link? website etc
Sorry, yes, edited original post.
BUMP!!!
...and, Doh!!! I paid £480 for mine about 7 weeks ago. Sigh. I wonder if people have stopped buying them because of some of the possible issues!
just found it on hotdeals! posted by..... you nice
why soo cold tho??? full of knobs!
You got to love and hate hotdeals.
It is without doubt a bargain, if you want one and can afford it, I believe that people on that site just vote cold on anything they dont want or cant afford or dont understand, shame really.
rolandrat said:
..delivered next day, seems a good price or a mistake as it appears to be £110 cheaper than anywhere else, or are prices on the way down.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1351/htc-touch-pro
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Thanks for that - i've been waiting for play.com to have a 10% discount which would have only bought the price down to £432(approx).
This is a great price - i only hope they don't say its a mistake as it looks like one (its cheaper than the Diamond which is £363.39).
It Should arrive on Thursday - just ordered it now.
spark9990 said:
Thanks for that - i've been waiting for play.com to have a 10% discount which would have only bought the price down to £432(approx).
This is a great price - i only hope they don't say its a mistake as it looks like one (its cheaper than the Diamond which is £363.39).
It Should arrive on Thursday - just ordered it now.
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I've decided to give a WM phone a go again and ordered myself.
To start with I'll just use it with a data sim, to see what its like, as you can't knock a blackberry for staying in touch with IM etc, but Im just so bored of the crap browser experience and lack of software like Live Mesh, which I use one hell of a lot to keep things synced.
I'll use both for a few weeks and see how it goes.
Looks like they have discovered it - gone back up to £466.89 without postage.
Good thing i bought mine
LOL! I don't feel so sick now ; )
spark9990, when your new pro arrives, please could you take a look at what version ROM it ships with now? (start/settings, system tab, device information - though I'm sure you'll know that already). Congratulations on getting such a great price!!!
spark9990 said:
Looks like they have discovered it - gone back up to £466.89 without postage.
Good thing i bought mine
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Yes and mines on tracking so give them credit for keeping the price for those that bought.
I've used them many times actually and they always have been good.
rolandrat said:
Yes and mines on tracking so give them credit for keeping the price for those that bought.
I've used them many times actually and they always have been good.
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They've cancelled my order - twats. Can they do that?
Mine as well, mine was at the delivery depot.
Not even a offer of a good will gesture, I'm going to check out if they can do that, especially I can prove it was out for delivery.
rolandrat said:
Mine as well, mine was at the delivery depot.
Not even a offer of a good will gesture, I'm going to check out if they can do that, especially I can prove it was out for delivery.
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Let me know what you find - I'm trying to find out if they can do that as well.
Had they sent emails to you both confirming dispatch? If so then then I guess they had entered into a contract with you... talk to Trading Standards for a firm answer....
Ouzo said:
Had they sent emails to you both confirming dispatch? If so then then I guess they had entered into a contract with you... talk to Trading Standards for a firm answer....
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I don't have proof of that - but i do have a receipt, and they did take money out of my account.
Then without my permission carried out a refund transaction. I trying to find out how to contact trading standards but in the mean time i am going to try to reason with sellers.
In a retail store, if a product is tagged as a cheaper price by mistake, then the retailer has to give it at that price.
If Handtec had debited your back account/credit card account, then they had entered into a contract with you to supply that item at that price. Speak to both Trading Standards and Handtec about it and make sure you can demonstrate that they had taken your dosh. All you did is select a product on Handtec's website in good faith and, for their part, it would appear that they too entered into that contract to suppply it, so I suggest they honour it!
EDIT: http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk, and they should have an entry in your local phone book. Kent is 0845 7585497 (just in case - good luck!)
nuke1 said:
In a retail store, if a product is tagged as a cheaper price by mistake, then the retailer has to give it at that price.
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Thats not true. Most big stores (such as Tesco) will sell you at the quoted price for the good will. By Law they infact have something like 24 hours to correct the price once notified by a customer, during which time they can sell at a different price than is quoted.
That is really bad!
I thought maybe it had something to do with stock levels, but if it got to the depot, you think they would have realised!
Hope you get a response from them or Trading Standards

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry
If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.
Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.
Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.
Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.
Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller
I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...
To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose
matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!
SOLD now, thanks.

real-original neoprene pouch

hi all.
i'm looking for the real one, the original, the authentic one.
i already tried on ebay but they all are, at best, just close to the original quality...
i contacted htc europe and htc america but both said they don't know anything about the pouch
i finally read google forums but we all know that it is not so easy to get a google answer...
sorry but... who built it?
sources and links are appreciated,
thanks...
A friend of mine recently got the original pouch from HTC USA for free...
craigacgomez said:
A friend of mine recently got the original pouch from HTC USA for free...
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well, lucky man.
i wrote the htc support via their website form but... nothing to do.
these are two of their answers:
I will be more than happy to assist you with this issue. What I can suggest for you to do is Contact our Accessories Line at 1-888-716-3594 as well as going to the website shopamerica.htc.com and also htcdepot.com to furhter your search on the right case as these are both great accessories sites. I hope this information proves helpful and resolves your inquiry regarding finding a case on your phone. Please feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
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Thank you for your prompt response. Unfortunately, HTC does not manufacture any accessories for our devices. They are all made by third party companies. Therefore, we have no way of knowing exactly which neoprene case you are referring to or who makes it. You would need to know the manufacturer of that case and check their site to see if it is still in production. However, here are some additional sites that you can check. Your best option might be the Amazon link as they have the largest number of resellers linked to their site. Shop America - http://www.shopamerica.htc.com/homebrands/index.htm Amazon.com - http://www.amazon.com/cell-phones-s...b/181-6435952-2642542?ie=UTF8&node=2335752011 Expansys - http://www.expansys-usa.com/ HTC Depot - http://www.htcdepot.com/ DayDeal - http://www.daydeal.com/home.php?cat=5452 NOTE : We do not recommend purchasing accessories from online auction sites, or little known resellers outside of the US and Canada. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you, and we hope that you are able to locate the case you need from one of these sites. As always, we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358.
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could you ask him what did he do?
thanks...
When I was still under the 1 year warranty that comes for free from HTC, i called inquiring about my phone. I then asked if they sold oem headphones & pouch, he replied with they're covered too. He sent me new pair of headphones and pouch.
thatguyzx said:
When I was still under the 1 year warranty that comes for free from HTC, i called inquiring about my phone. I then asked if they sold oem headphones & pouch, he replied with they're covered too. He sent me new pair of headphones and pouch.
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well, i would also be willing to pay for it...
I called HTC in the first week of January 2011 and managed to get a new battery cover and battery just as my warranty expired. But they claimed they were totally out of pouches and redirected me to the accessories phone line and web site. The original pouch is not on that site. My pouch is getting seriously shredded up... so sad.
People actually use those?
I think I put my phone in it on day 1, put the pouch back in the box and never looked at it again.
I just tried the 1 888 216 4736 line (which BTW has been taken down from HTC's site) and went to the warranty department. I explained that I was looking for this specific accessory which did not seem to be on sale anywhere, and which came in the box with my now out-of-warranty phone.
She put me on hold for a little while, and eventually did say that the pouch was available to be sent out as a replacement. I was willing to pay for it due to my warranty being over, but she said that didn't seem to come up on any of the screens she saw. So now I have an order number and a replacement is supposed to arrive. I'll let you know if it ever shows up!
I wonder if it's stretchy enough that it'd fit over an HTC Sensation with some coaxing.
GldRush98 said:
People actually use those?
I think I put my phone in it on day 1, put the pouch back in the box and never looked at it again.
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if so... i would book for it
cmstlist said:
I just tried the 1 888 216 4736 line (which BTW has been taken down from HTC's site) and went to the warranty department. I explained that I was looking for this specific accessory which did not seem to be on sale anywhere, and which came in the box with my now out-of-warranty phone.
She put me on hold for a little while, and eventually did say that the pouch was available to be sent out as a replacement. I was willing to pay for it due to my warranty being over, but she said that didn't seem to come up on any of the screens she saw. So now I have an order number and a replacement is supposed to arrive. I'll let you know if it ever shows up!
I wonder if it's stretchy enough that it'd fit over an HTC Sensation with some coaxing.
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should we read that phoning is different than contacting them via email? interesting...
please keep us updated, thanks.
GldRush98 said:
People actually use those?
I think I put my phone in it on day 1, put the pouch back in the box and never looked at it again.
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Lol yeah I can see why... its a bit geeky to say the least and can be a bit annoying to use.
On the other hand I DO use my everyday since I got the phone (only got my N1 this January though (a bit outdated then I know)) and its brilliant! Keeps the phone really well protected from drops and scratching! Honestly if you still have yours and don't use another case anyway I would highly recommend using it!
I use mine more now than I ever have. I've had two otterbox cases break on me and I don't feel like dishing out the money to buy a new one, so I've just been using the pouch that came with the phone.
Here's one I found on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Original-Ne...ccessories&hash=item3363efd4b5#ht_2248wt_1163
Mine has never been out of the box, but I might be tempted to sell it if they're going for $100!
My replacement arrived from HTC! The part number on the packing slip is 70H00221-00M, for what it's worth.
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My replacement arrived from HTC! The part number on the packing slip is 70H00221-00M, for what it's worth.
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interesting, via email they don't know what we are asking about and via phone they send it for free!
is there any plausible explanation?

[Q] Chinese Fake Phones

Does anybody know a good Chinese site with Fast and good Androids with Google Play?
I know a few but I'm scared to buy so if you could share any Good ones that are not Scammers then go ahead.
I've seen these few: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/712877 (Says that the site is protected from Scammers)
tinydeal.com (I've heard it before on the internet and they said it's good but you never know)
fastcardtech.com (It has good reviews and heard good things about it, but I still don't thrust them)
This is the only site I can thrust with this so please help it's for my Birthday!
from suprafe
Try ebay, at least you are protected from scams.
Sorry for my english.
Buy a quality phone, its just a few dollars more.
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Hamisxa said:
Does anybody know a good Chinese site with Fast and good Androids with Google Play?
I know a few but I'm scared to buy so if you could share any Good ones that are not Scammers then go ahead.
I've seen these few: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/712877 (Says that the site is protected from Scammers)
tinydeal.com (I've heard it before on the internet and they said it's good but you never know)
fastcardtech.com (It has good reviews and heard good things about it, but I still don't thrust them)
This is the only site I can thrust with this so please help it's for my Birthday!
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I suggest buy a $0.99 cent phone from your phone company like the Samsung Galaxy S2. That way you will still be getting a quality phone but for a very cheap price.
Why would you want a fake chinese phone? Honestly, for big purchases, it's probably better if you deal with businesses within the country you live in. What happens if you need service for your fake phone in the future? I doubt whomever you buy the fake phone from would be of much help and therefore, you'll just end up losing however much money you paid for that phone. Get a legit phone.
Lol you said thrust
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Why would you want a fake chinese phone? Honestly, for big purchases, it's probably better if you deal with businesses within the country you live in. What happens if you need service for your fake phone in the future? I doubt whomever you buy the fake phone from would be of much help and therefore, you'll just end up losing however much money you paid for that phone. Get a legit phone.
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Totally Agreed
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Refurbished

Hey everyone.
So I was out looking for phones and I found a guy in delhi selling refurbished phones. They have a website, three branches as per say.
So I got myself a deal for one plus 6 in around 18k.
6gb,128gb version.
I am currently on Rei Note 5 Pro and thinking of making the change.
All I need is a little reponse if I should go ahead ?
I have paid 500 as booking fees, site seems legit. The guy seems legit so far.
He will give me the tracking Id tomorrow and the rest amount is COD.
What do you guys think of it ?
The device comes with 1 year warranty and 1 week replacement/ return.
Feels sketchy , seeking a 34 k mobile for 18 k May be the screen or some other internals may have been replaced. Also what type of warranty is he providing seller or company warranty and in India we have had enough tube getting warranty service from known brands it is risky to trust seller warranties
Looks like scam to me
Why would anyone sell a phone for 18k when it can easily fetch 30-35k INR?
Remember, If something seems too go to be true. It is most likely a scam of some kind. Don't waste your hard earned money on something fishy as this!
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Feels sketchy , seeking a 34 k mobile for 18 k May be the screen or some other internals may have been replaced. Also what type of warranty is he providing seller or company warranty and in India we have had enough tube getting warranty service from known brands it is risky to trust seller warranties
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Hey says its brand warranty. I can go to a one plus service center with it.
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Remember, If something seems too go to be true. It is most likely a scam of some kind. Don't waste your hard earned money on something fishy as this!
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I researched about refurbished phones. They go cheap
UCFour said:
Looks like scam to me
Why would anyone sell a phone for 18k when it can easily fetch 30-35k INR?
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Refurbished phones i guess.
http://shopmobile.co.in
This is the website.
https://www.olx.in/item/oneplus-5t-refubished-phone-available-ID1mONYr.html
Seller profile on olx
That's all scam, it's being viral on OLX India. I have attached a screenshot. My friend paid ₹1,000 for S9+ in advance and the scammer blocked his phone number. Although he got the money back after reporting the scammer to police, luckily.
Screenshot - ht tps://image.ibb.co/nEE4dK/Screenshot_20180822_010023.jpg
Please remove the gap in http as it wasn't allowing me to post external links.
P.S. Apart from that, they are using female names to attract people.
AshishV95 said:
That's all scam, it's being viral on OLX India. I have attached a screenshot. My friend paid ₹1,000 for S9+ in advance and the scammer blocked his phone number. Although he got the money back after reporting the scammer to police, luckily.
Screenshot - ht tps://image.ibb.co/nEE4dK/Screenshot_20180822_010023.jpg
Please remove the gap in http as it wasn't allowing me to post external links.
P.S. Apart from that, they are using female names to attract people.
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I had that it mind. I even told the guy that if he scammed me, I will go to the police.
But the thing is he has not. And he has been behaving really well so far.
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I had that it mind. I even told the guy that if he scammed me, I will go to the police.
But the thing is he has not. And he has been behaving really well so far.
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Bro looks like you've made up your mind , why post and enquire about it
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akhil221 said:
I had that it mind. I even told the guy that if he scammed me, I will go to the police.
But the thing is he has not. And he has been behaving really well so far.
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If I wanted to steal your money, I would be really nice to you too!
Over the years I have learned from peoples mistakes.. Ofc some of mine aswell!
*if it seems too good to be true, it is!*
notanoob said:
Bro looks like you've made up your mind , why post and enquire about it
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Nah man.
I haven't got any reply from his side. Messages have not been delivered yet.
And there is no tracking id yet.
I am beginning to think the 500 deposit is gone for good.
whizeguy said:
If I wanted to steal your money, I would be really nice to you too!
Over the years I have learned from peoples mistakes.. Ofc some of mine aswell!
*if it seems to good to be true, it is!*
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Man it seems too good to be true
One plus 6, 8gb in 18k.
Still I'll wait till today to go ahead and make a complaint
akhil221 said:
Hey everyone.
So I was out looking for phones and I found a guy in delhi selling refurbished phones. They have a website, three branches as per say.
So I got myself a deal for one plus 6 in around 18k.
6gb,128gb version.
I am currently on Rei Note 5 Pro and thinking of making the change.
All I need is a little reponse if I should go ahead ?
I have paid 500 as booking fees, site seems legit. The guy seems legit so far.
He will give me the tracking Id tomorrow and the rest amount is COD.
What do you guys think of it ?
The device comes with 1 year warranty and 1 week replacement/ return.
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Good luck getting back those 500 .. ?
Placed an order in the website mentioned
Hey just to see my luck I too placed an order in the website you mentioned. It didn't even ask me for the deposit of 500. By default it takes COD. I'm very very sure it's a scam as it didn't even ask me for any verification or confirmation
vigneshnallamad said:
Hey just to see my luck I too placed an order in the website you mentioned. It didn't even ask me for the deposit of 500. By default it takes COD. I'm very very sure it's a scam as it didn't even ask me for any verification or confirmation
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I dunno man. It seems good by the name of it.
My product is already been shipped.
I totally bonged the guy, asking him several questions.
He said these are custom duty free refurbished handsets. Sometimes unboxed.
People return or replace them frequently it seems.
Anyways, he is assuring me, he said i can live video call him while unboxing. I mean that counts for something I guess.
I will make a video of unboxing though.
Well lets hope for the best then.
akhil221 said:
I dunno man. It seems good by the name of it.
My product is already been shipped.
I totally bonged the guy, asking him several questions.
He said these are custom duty free refurbished handsets. Sometimes unboxed.
People return or replace them frequently it seems.
Anyways, he is assuring me, he said i can live video call him while unboxing. I mean that counts for something I guess.
I will make a video of unboxing though.
Well lets hope for the best then.
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Whats the update on this?
yeah did you receive the phone we are all waiting for an update
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Whats the update on this?
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So after my repeated attempts to get an ID from the guy made me cancel the order.
The guy , Mithlesh Sharma, employee of the website company or so he told me.
He sent me an Adhaar Card of some person he said was his boss.
I mean he couldn't send his own but apparently all employees have the boss's adhaar card.
plus it was all sketchy from the start..and with all the frauds goin on..i backed out.
as soon as I told him I will not be receiving the parcel as he failed to present a proof. He blocked me and did not respond on call.
moreover if you check olx, now i see these fake ads more than actual ones.
i mean a guy has posted ads in chandigarh, lucknow and delhi at the same time. Cash on delivery..buff..
I mean what if the box had just glass or bricks or soap inside. I choose to believe nobody would;ve listened then.
17k is a good amount.
might as well but the pocof1..lol

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