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[Q] Test messages getting cut-off

Hi all, A co-worker has the Droid 2 and is about to receive her 3rd one in the mail tomorrow. The problem is that text messages are randomly cut-off or garbled to SOME people. I cannot seem to find anything to help her. The issue is not related to the size of the message (i.e. SMS converting to MMS) as it has occurred with one word texts as well as larger messages. Her D2 is stock. The recipients with issues have older (1 or 2 year old VZW phones. Guessing they are dumb or feature phones, but not sure). Here is what we've tried:
Example of a 1 word text: So I sent a text that said “busy?” and it came through to the recipient as “bus”
1. Turn off auto-correct in settings
2. Auto-Signature in settings is not checked (thought that might auto convert to MMS)
3. Switch to Handcent from stock messaging app. Same problem
4. Delete the contacts having trouble and then soft re-set the phone. Then add the contacts back in.
5. Replaced phone; same problem new phone.
6. Remove apps and replace one by one. Thought she had some luck with a camera app, but no go. The issue recurred without the camera app on the phone (have told her to check the camera apps settings to see if there is anything that could be adding pics to text messages without her knowledge. That would turn the message into an MMS. Long shot but worth a look.)
I feel like somehow all of her text messages are being converted to MMS but I cannot find any setting that would be causing this to occur. Cannot think of anything else. Anyone have any ideas?

I would try doing a factory reset without installing ANY extra apps, and see if it still happens. If it works, then slowly start installing apps until it starts again and you've found the issue. If it doesnt fix it at all, then I'd SBF and try as above. If still doesnt work then it's likely an issue with your carrier or maybe their carrier. (Person getting them)

[Q] MMS sending with (no subject) before every text

I recently upgraded from an iPhone 4 to the Nexus 5 and i'm loving it! when I try to group text over MMS with my friends, who all have iphones, they receive the text just fine over MMS and I can reply, view, all the normal stuff, but every text they get from me start with (no subject) in bold over the normal message. Anyone had this issue before?
anyone know how to fix it?
I have already tried a plethora of messaging apps and made sure my MMS settings are correct and can't seem to find any way to remove the (no message) from the messages.
Any help at all would be appreciated!

Isn't that a iPhone issue then? Group messaging does use MMS and you can send with or without a subject but boldly displaying that there is no subject should be an issue on their end. I get group messages and it never shows "no subject"

Are you using Hangouts or another custom MMS/SMS app? If using custom, try looking for any settings that would say to include subject line with text. If running Hangouts, I checked and there is no setting to include a subject in Group MMS or anything related to it, so the issue resides as mentioned with the iPhone user.

Try enabling data when you receive an MMS.
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[Q] Tricky issues receiving MMS

I'm going nuts trying to figure out how to fix my MMS issues — maybe you guys can help. I have an unrooted N5 running 4.4.4 that is inconsistently receiving MMS messages (both photos and group texts). I'm currently using StraightTalk, though I was having the same issue with Cricket.
My APN settings are correct (from what I can figure), and sometimes I receive incoming MMS. I currently have Textra and GoSMS installed as my texting apps, with GoSMS currently as my default. Occasionally I'll receive an error in GoSMS that an MMS message was unable to be downloaded, and try as I may, I can never get the app to download and display it. However, if I open up Textra, the message will have come through there with no problem. So basically, unless I have 2 apps gathering MMS, I'll miss half of them. I only installed GoSMS after seeing it as a suggestion/solution in another forum - this was happening before I both installed. I was originally using Hangouts for SMS/MMS, which was having the same problem (and why I initially DL'd Textra).
I occasionally have issues sending out an MMS. It's a less frequent occurrence than the issues receiving, though it does happen.
I am thinking that if this was a network issue, the MMS wouldn't come through to my phone at all, so I've stopped trying to mess with my APN. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this?

I have Straight Talk too and been having issues with MMS i'm using 8sms. I have the old 3g sims card. what about you ?
breannesp said:
I'm going nuts trying to figure out how to fix my MMS issues — maybe you guys can help. I have an unrooted N5 running 4.4.4 that is inconsistently receiving MMS messages (both photos and group texts). I'm currently using StraightTalk, though I was having the same issue with Cricket.
My APN settings are correct (from what I can figure), and sometimes I receive incoming MMS. I currently have Textra and GoSMS installed as my texting apps, with GoSMS currently as my default. Occasionally I'll receive an error in GoSMS that an MMS message was unable to be downloaded, and try as I may, I can never get the app to download and display it. However, if I open up Textra, the message will have come through there with no problem. So basically, unless I have 2 apps gathering MMS, I'll miss half of them. I only installed GoSMS after seeing it as a suggestion/solution in another forum - this was happening before I both installed. I was originally using Hangouts for SMS/MMS, which was having the same problem (and why I initially DL'd Textra).
I occasionally have issues sending out an MMS. It's a less frequent occurrence than the issues receiving, though it does happen.
I am thinking that if this was a network issue, the MMS wouldn't come through to my phone at all, so I've stopped trying to mess with my APN. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this?
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I just got my SIM card last month, so I'm pretty sure it's the new one.
thasarkastic1 said:
I have Straight Talk too and been having issues with MMS i'm using 8sms. I have the old 3g sims card. what about you ?
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breannesp said:
I just got my SIM card last month, so I'm pretty sure it's the new one.
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I'm currently having the same issue with a non rooted device.
I was originally with H20 (an AT&T mvno) and would have periodic issues with MMS. Both sending and receiving. I am using Google Hangouts.
I recently switched to Cricket (owned by AT&T) earlier this month (reasons unrelated), and have not been able to send or receive an MMS since. I have spent several hours on the phone with both Cricket and LG, even going into a store to have my SIM replaced. I came across this thread accidentally while looking for suggestions on the best way to do a backup before I try a factory reset as a last resort to resolve the problem.
APN has been verified correct numerous times and unfortunately, Cricket's cust service is next to useless. After two and a half weeks and numerous calls, I still have yet to hear back from a Tech Support rep. I'm not sure whose network straight talk uses, but I wonder if it's a network issue with AT&T subcarriers?
The most frustrating part is every time I talk to somewhat at Cricket cust service, they say that the Nexus 5 is not "officially supported" on their network and that it is probably a phone issue and try to sell me a new phone. When I explain that the Nexus 5 runs stock Android, they try and tell me that that might be the problem *SMH*.
Anyone else?

steelcity1 said:
I'm currently having the same issue with a non rooted device.
I was originally with H20 (an AT&T mvno) and would have periodic issues with MMS. Both sending and receiving. I am using Google Hangouts.
I recently switched to Cricket (owned by AT&T) earlier this month (reasons unrelated), and have not been able to send or receive an MMS since. I have spent several hours on the phone with both Cricket and LG, even going into a store to have my SIM replaced. I came across this thread accidentally while looking for suggestions on the best way to do a backup before I try a factory reset as a last resort to resolve the problem.
APN has been verified correct numerous times and unfortunately, Cricket's cust service is next to useless. After two and a half weeks and numerous calls, I still have yet to hear back from a Tech Support rep. I'm not sure whose network straight talk uses, but I wonder if it's a network issue with AT&T subcarriers?
The most frustrating part is every time I talk to somewhat at Cricket cust service, they say that the Nexus 5 is not "officially supported" on their network and that it is probably a phone issue and try to sell me a new phone. When I explain that the Nexus 5 runs stock Android, they try and tell me that that might be the problem *SMH*.
Anyone else?
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Yes me too. I found out today that my G2 can't get MMS at all. I've tried tons of fixes and nothing seems to work.

No sure if anyone is still experiencing the MMS issues on Nexus 5 as I am. I have a stock, unrooted N5 running Android 4.4.4 on Tmobile. GoSMS is my default sms client. What happens totally randomly is that I COMPLETELY lose the ability to send/receive MMS picture messages (group messages that come in as MMS are unaffected). Once I lose MMS, ALL text I have which have picture messages attached change from viewable icons to blank images or "Xs". All MMS messages in go become white boxes that say "picture does not exist). It has not mattered if I have taken all other text clients off the phone and used ONLY Hangouts as the default, it still happens. This is the ONLY solution I've found to fix the issue:
1) Set Hangout as default sms client
2) Reset APNs to default (settings-->SMS-->Access Point Names--> hit three dots-->reset to default)
3) Go to main phone settings (Settings-->More-->Mobile Networks-->Access Point Names), reset to default
4) Select the APNs that your device normally uses (for me, its fast.t-mobile.com), set MMS Port to 8080 and save APN
5) go back into Hangouts, select the same APN (fast.t-mobile.com), set the MMS Port to 8080 and save APN
6) Reboot phone
Once its rebooted, if your MMS images are once again viewable in Hangouts, its fixed and you can send/receive picture messages again. You can now switch to whatever default client you chose. This has worked for me EVERY time to 'fix' the MMS issue, but what I have never figured out is WHY its happening and I can't pinpoint exactly when it started. I want to say the update to 4.4.2 may have triggered it, but I honestly can't recall. I know this wasn't ALWAYS an issue. If anyone else has any theories/ideas, I'm all ears. Its just a pain in the a** to have to reset the APNS in two spots and reboot every time this happens (I think I read that Hangouts' APN settings can override the system APN settings so that's why I reset in both spots). I've tried ONLY resetting the main phone's APN and it didn't fix the issue.

breannesp said:
I'm going nuts trying to figure out how to fix my MMS issues — maybe you guys can help. I have an unrooted N5 running 4.4.4 that is inconsistently receiving MMS messages (both photos and group texts). I'm currently using StraightTalk, though I was having the same issue with Cricket.
My APN settings are correct (from what I can figure), and sometimes I receive incoming MMS. I currently have Textra and GoSMS installed as my texting apps, with GoSMS currently as my default. Occasionally I'll receive an error in GoSMS that an MMS message was unable to be downloaded, and try as I may, I can never get the app to download and display it. However, if I open up Textra, the message will have come through there with no problem. So basically, unless I have 2 apps gathering MMS, I'll miss half of them. I only installed GoSMS after seeing it as a suggestion/solution in another forum - this was happening before I both installed. I was originally using Hangouts for SMS/MMS, which was having the same problem (and why I initially DL'd Textra).
I occasionally have issues sending out an MMS. It's a less frequent occurrence than the issues receiving, though it does happen.
I am thinking that if this was a network issue, the MMS wouldn't come through to my phone at all, so I've stopped trying to mess with my APN. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this?
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two messaging apps is like,
having two firewalls apps on one computer,
their both getting in the way of each other..
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sitinon327 said:
No sure if anyone is still experiencing the MMS issues on Nexus 5 as I am. I have a stock, unrooted N5 running Android 4.4.4 on Tmobile. GoSMS is my default sms client. What happens totally randomly is that I COMPLETELY lose the ability to send/receive MMS picture messages (group messages that come in as MMS are unaffected). Once I lose MMS, ALL text I have which have picture messages attached change from viewable icons to blank images or "Xs". All MMS messages in go become white boxes that say "picture does not exist). It has not mattered if I have taken all other text clients off the phone and used ONLY Hangouts as the default, it still happens. This is the ONLY solution I've found to fix the issue:
1) Set Hangout as default sms client
2) Reset APNs to default (settings-->SMS-->Access Point Names--> hit three dots-->reset to default)
3) Go to main phone settings (Settings-->More-->Mobile Networks-->Access Point Names), reset to default
4) Select the APNs that your device normally uses (for me, its fast.t-mobile.com), set MMS Port to 8080 and save APN
5) go back into Hangouts, select the same APN (fast.t-mobile.com), set the MMS Port to 8080 and save APN
6) Reboot phone
Once its rebooted, if your MMS images are once again viewable in Hangouts, its fixed and you can send/receive picture messages again. You can now switch to whatever default client you chose. This has worked for me EVERY time to 'fix' the MMS issue, but what I have never figured out is WHY its happening and I can't pinpoint exactly when it started. I want to say the update to 4.4.2 may have triggered it, but I honestly can't recall. I know this wasn't ALWAYS an issue. If anyone else has any theories/ideas, I'm all ears. Its just a pain in the a** to have to reset the APNS in two spots and reboot every time this happens (I think I read that Hangouts' APN settings can override the system APN settings so that's why I reset in both spots). I've tried ONLY resetting the main phone's APN and it didn't fix the issue.
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**com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel** is your gn0me in the engine;
where sms/ mms is *natively* transported via the native phone functions & hooks, hangouts provides the same functionality *over the top* of the carrier's route, strictly IP; call it hi-jacking in a sense, that's what you en-able hangouts to do on reboots, hijack those functions..
*SIM toolkit
*Phone/Messaging storage
*Phone
is what com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel is tied to, which hangouts, isn't..

Last update to hangouts screwed up my APN setting. ?
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Idk how but messaging is working for me

Way to troll an old thread for no reason
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T-Mobile Z3, Textra, MMS, and VoLTE

Hello everyone,
I have the T-Mobile Z3 and absolutely LOVE my phone. The ONLY real issue I have is regarding MMS.
When I leave VoLTE enabled, it seems to interfere with me getting all my MMS messages. I get most, but not all. So after disabling it, and I've been using Textra too........ everything seems to be fine. But I am not happy that I have to disable VoLTE in order for me to get all my MMS messages. I disabled stock messenger b/c it had issues before with properly handling MMS messages (and Textra is prettier lol).
So now I'm hearing that since Lollipop, the MMS issues the stock app had are gone, and it works 100% of the time. Great! But I wonder........ does anyone reading this who uses stock notice the same thing with VoLTE ENABLED??! As much as I love Textra, I might go back to stock if someone can confirm VoLTE is enabled when they use stock messenger and they have gone WEEKS (or months) w/o missing any MMS or even SMS messages. Please let me know and feel free to elaborate as much as possible.
Thank You,
RockStar2005

I have VoLTE enabled and stock messenger works fine for MMS so far.

Hey abhinav,
How many weeks have you had VoLTE enabled since getting Lollipop? Also, you have T-Mobile for your Z3 right??
One more thing..............do you use an alternate APN or just the regular default one??
Thanks!

I have T-Mobile indeed and have never turned off VoLTE. However do note I sent and recieved only a few MMS (20-30) so take that into consideration as well.

Well 20-30 is still considerable.
Do you use an alternate APN or just the regular default one? I'm guessing default, but let me know either way.
I'm thinking I may just go ahead and give and stock a shot. The only thing I really dislike with stock is that you're forced to use the white background theme, which I don't like as much on my eyes as the dark background themes. Oh well. That should be a standard option to choose between white and black backgrounds.
Thanks Abhinav....... I'll try it out and we'll see what happens!

Sorry I forgot to mention that I use the default APN.

Abhinav,
Ok great!
No that's fine....... I figured you did anyway. Which is good cuz that means you didn't have to do anything extra to keep things in line.
Allright I'll try it too then...... hopefully I have the same luck. lol
Thanks!

Abhinav,
Since yesterday I've been using Stock and Textra's been uninstalled. I also reverted to my default APN and re-enabled VoLTE. We'll see how things go in the next few weeks regarding MMS messages.
One thing I noticed though after switching is that when I got an MMS message with a pic attached, my Stock app would create a separate thread for the sender, which would only have a "Message not downloaded" text in it and nothing else, and then the actual group MMS text (separate thread) with the attached word message & pic would be there. So then I have to go and delete that sender only text thread b/c it has nothing of importance. Why does Stock even create that?? I wish I knew how to make it stop. But if this works out like it has for you, I guess I can't really complain.
2 other minor things that I wish Stock would include are: 1) Let you choose the theme for background and text boxes like Textra does (I don't like white backgrounds very much) and 2) I wish it would let you choose the notification light color like Textra does. The blinking white light is the same one that my e-mail and voicemail apps use. For Textra, it would let you choose any color, and I'd choose blue.
Oh well. lol
Thanks.

Let me ask you........ I saw a post from last Nov where you said you were using Google Messenger, but now you say you use Stock. I'd actually prefer to use GM, but let me ask you, why did you go back to Stock? Was there an issue with GM? Please give as much detail as possible.
I see from that post that there issues with double messages etc. Do you know of anyone who has tried GM POST-Lollipop on the Z3 with VoLTE enabled w/o issue?
Thank You.

Hello, sorry I have to change my XDA theme just to enter this thread, so I didn't see your replies till now lol. As for Hangouts I had issues sending MMS via WiFi so I had to use stock and haven't gone back since.
Well I just tested again since you asked, same issue even now with Hangouts.

Abhinav,
It's fine. No prob!
Hangouts? No I asked about Google Messenger. lol I only use Hangouts for IMs.
Just reread my last post and lemme know when you can. Thanks man!!

My apologies, I tried Messenger just now, same issue, it says cellular data is turned off.

No problem brotha. lol
Google Messenger is saying that? So even though your cellular data IS on it says it's off??
I briefly tried GM earlier on. Seems to work fine, but since Textra didn't seem to mix well with VoLTE, I'm wary of trusting another third party texting app, EVEN one made by Google. lol

That would be correct. Maybe the stock messenger is somehow tweaked to allow MMS via WiFi.

Oh ok. Weird b/c I'm NOT having that issue. And yes, I believe Lollipop fixed the Stock app finally with regards to MMS and even WiFi being on when an MMS comes in.
My one issue with Stock is, b/c I can't whitelist it on Stamina Mode Whitelist, even though it does LET MMS messages through right away when Stamina Mode has kicked in (15 min after screen went off), even though I have "Auto Download MMS messages" enabled, it doesn't always download them. So if I get a mass text from some people, I'm MAYBE gonna have to manually download each message individually? GM doesn't appear to do that from a test I ran, but will it work with VoLTE enabled? lol (Let me stress again, Stock only does this SOMETIMES, not all the time.)
I tried another test and GM failed in 2 MINOR ways: 1) When Stamina Mode is on and WiFi too, my Z3 DOES NOT notify me of the incoming MMS message (b/c of Stamina Mode being on probably). Upon turning the screen on though the message comes in right away, and the time stamp on it is actually correct, and it already downloaded the MMS msg too unlike what Stock sometimes does. 2) The sender's phone doesn't show DELIVERED when using GM on my phone, just SENT. But with Stock it does show as DELIVERED.
Although I dislike the idea of having to SOMETIMES manually download MMS messages, I dislike the idea of not being notified about them until I turn on the screen even more. lol Therefore, I'm going to stick with Stock. lol

Question Anyone getting a <Subject: NoSubject> line

Since I swapped my sim into this T-Mobile branded Z Flip 3 I've been getting a "<Subject: NoSubject>" line on top off all my MMS. Getting it on group text on every text, since group texting uses MMS.
Was just wondering if I'm the only one getting this, since I didn't find this on my search?

man... I guess I'm to only one

apatcas said:
Since I swapped my sim into this T-Mobile branded Z Flip 3 I've been getting a "<Subject: NoSubject>" line on top off all my MMS. Getting it on group text on every text, since group texting uses MMS.
Was just wondering if I'm the only one getting this, since I didn't find this on my search?
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I'm experiencing the EXACT same thing with my new Unlocked Z Fold 3 (that has a T-Mobile sim card installed). I've spent the last 90-minutes on the phone with T-Mobile support, and they are dumbfounded. Next they are going to reach out to Samsung. (If you do a Google search on this subject, you'll see that it goes back years on various Samsung models on the T-Mobile network.. I've not come across any posts that explain how it was ever fixed. Hopefully they'll find a solution for me, and I'll be sure to reply here, if so.)
As a work around, you could try installing a different messaging app from the Google Play store. I went with Textra. The Textra app does NOT display the "Subject: NoSubject" (even though the "Subject: NoSubject" is appearing in the exact same text message when viewed inside of the Samsung Message app.)

Honestly... without sounding bad, I'm at least happy it's not just me.
You can download Google Messages and it will fix that, but then you are giving Google all your text messages also. You also cannot use "text and call on other devices" with google messages.
I'm almost 100% sure that it has to do with their Messages application

This is the only thing I do not like about this phone. Hope TMobile can fix this asap

is "download automatically" turned on from the messages settings?
you should contact T-Mobile

Yeah, it's setup to download automatically.
I did contact T-mobile and they are aware of the issue