hellllo
I want to know if there is some sort of way that enables the app drawer on the mate 7.
No root or anything like that , just have a normal app drawer.
thank you
(+noob question : whats the difference between the MT7-TL10 and the MT7-L09 thanks again .)
if you want to keep using EMUI as launcher you gotta root your device and flash the modded stock rom that someone here on xda made. I you don't care about it just install another launcher, they all have app drawers.
Idk about the different phone models though
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if you want to keep using EMUI as launcher you gotta root your device and flash the modded stock rom that someone here on xda made. I you don't care about it just install another launcher, they all have app drawers.
Idk about the different phone models though
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oh ok thnx for the reply , any hint on where can i find the modded official emui ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/development/rom-erykinemt7-v1-0-0-mt7-l09-b137sp03-t3044695
this is the rom I meant, it needs unlocked bootloader, didn't test it but it looks like it's working fine.
I haven't flashed any roms on the mate 7 yet so you better not ask me for help.
I think you know about the dangers of flashing roms and stuff like that, so prepare well and be patient, otherwise you can **** up which will cost you a lot of time..
I would rather suggest you to just get a launcher, Emui isn't that great so flashing a to rom only for an app drawer seems useless to me: silly:
You could try App Swap on the play store. This will give you an App drawer via the home button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ebt.appswitch
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/development/rom-erykinemt7-v1-0-0-mt7-l09-b137sp03-t3044695
this is the rom I meant, it needs unlocked bootloader, didn't test it but it looks like it's working fine.
I haven't flashed any roms on the mate 7 yet so you better not ask me for help.
I think you know about the dangers of flashing roms and stuff like that, so prepare well and be patient, otherwise you can **** up which will cost you a lot of time..
I would rather suggest you to just get a launcher, Emui isn't that great so flashing a to rom only for an app drawer seems useless to me: silly:
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yoboj said:
You could try App Swap on the play store. This will give you an App drawer via the home button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ebt.appswitch
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ok thank you very very much . i think ill just use a launcher , maybe one that ressembles either touchwiz (call me anything but i actually like it) or the emui
lesrourou said:
hellllo
I want to know if there is some sort of way that enables the app drawer on the mate 7.
No root or anything like that , just have a normal app drawer.
thank you
(+noob question : whats the difference between the MT7-TL10 and the MT7-L09 thanks again .)
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install nova launcher ? or buy any other android ?
really don't understand ppl they buy smartphone they know that it doesn't support features what they wand and they still buy it..
for fuk sake first think what u want and then buy .
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install nova launcher ? or buy any other android ?
really don't understand ppl they buy smartphone they know that it doesn't support features what they wand and they still buy it..
for fuk sake first think what u want and then buy .
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I have to disagree with you and I'll explayin you why, please take some time to read that:
A launcher is just a small part of what makes a phone worth buying, not only looking at the fact that you can replace it so easily and also that stock launchers are way worse than custom launcher anyways, but also because this phone offers a lot more than just its launcher.
Take me for example:
I love rooting and testing roms, flash things on my phone and customize it till it's perfect. Still I choose this device, a Huawei which has such a weak modding scene, there are almost no roms while other phones like Samsungs and HTCs or any other brand with so many great roms, so much community support and so on. Still I bought this phone because it has a huge screen which is perfect for me because I love watching videos, series and animes. I could also get a galaxy note, which has all the modding and community stuff I previously mentioned. But they are way more expensive and I don't want to spend too much on a phone because I have other things I need money for. Then why didn't I choose the Huawei P8 Max with an even larger screen and better specs? Because it's too big in my opinion, it's not really comfortable in my everyday life, holding it with one hand is really difficult. Next factor is the look and feel, if I pay hundres of euros for a phone I want it to feel like it's worth the money, and this phone definetly does, it's aluminium, the screen to body ratio is great and the overall looks is fantastic. Then I need much space for all my music because I listen to music where ever I go, and this phone has an sd card slot. I also love the fingerprint scanner, it's way easier and faster than unlocking with an code. And most of the bad things about the phone are the things I don't really care about: camere is not the best, but I only make some photos at parties or some snapshots to send them to my friends, none of that requires a good camera and if it would I would rather spend my money on a real camera and not on a phone. The cpu/gpu is also not the best anymore since you get better specs with the newer and cheaper Huaweis, but since I only do simple things with my phone and only play games which don't need much power (so none of the 3d/realistic games) I am satisfied with this phone. The software isn't the best too but I can live with an older android version, it works just as fine as the newer ones, and I don't really care for the security issues. EMUI also isn't the best software out there, but I replaced my launcher with smart launcher which I've been using for years, and the only thing from EMUI I notice is the notification bar, which works fine. Almost forgot the batterie: 4100 mAh (!), which is huge, the big screen drains some battery of course but by far not enough for this batterie.
Now tell me which phones you know which cover all of my claims? None. There may be some alternatives which are similar to the mate 7, but none of them is better.
I hope you actually read this and change your mind, and if not atleast don't insult people as retards for having different prioritys than you when buying a phone.
XDADEVX said:
install nova launcher ? or buy any other android ?
really don't understand ppl they buy smartphone they know that it doesn't support features what they wand and they still buy it..
for fuk sake first think what u want and then buy .
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srsly? youre teling i shouldnt of bought this device (which i really like every single thing about it) because it doesnt have something as puny as an app drawer? something shich a simple mod or launcher could easily give?
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srsly? youre teling i shouldnt of bought this device (which i really like every single thing about it) because it doesnt have something as puny as an app drawer? something shich a simple mod or launcher could easily give?
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I HATE drawer .. what for ?
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I HATE drawer .. what for ?
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That's your opinion, many of us love and are used to an app drawer
In EMUI 3.1 / Lollipop it is possible to hide apps. Once hidden they are placed into a hidden app drawer.
To hide apps, use 2 fingers to pinch out (spread) the screen. The hidden apps drawer should appear where you can then add apps by selecting the add icon. Hidden apps can still be launched from the drawer as normal..
I installed smart launcher pro, chose it as default launcher and it works nice. I also installed Google Now and then set that as default and uninstalled smart launcher. It's only a launcher, not the whole UI for the phone.
The only thing that could be an issue is if there are standard widgets the 3rd party launcher will not use, like the built in message app for instance. I want to root my Mate7 to de-bloat it and I'll use Google Messenger instead.
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i just don't see this point ...
It looks clean and makes less 'fragmentation'. It also has roboto font and face unlock, but not much else
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i just don't see this point ...
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Faster smoother all around GPU acceleration, smooth browser.
All around better experience than GB
like having a new phone
Have u even tried it?
demo23019 said:
Faster smoother all around GPU acceleration, smooth browser.
All around better experience than GB
like having a new phone
Have u even tried it?
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yes , like MIUI , DIANXIN , CM9 and STOCK , brah brah
smooth ? i'm quite happy with what i have now , browser as well.
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It looks clean and makes less 'fragmentation'. It also has roboto font and face unlock, but not much else
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hmmm , i don't have any sight problem ...so roboto font isn't much good to me
face unlock ...yeah , that google employee had failed face-unlock representation in EXPO ... -___________-!!!
Ics rocks!
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Ics rocks!
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= = , but how ?
How was 2.3 better than 2.2.
If you have an upgrade up for grabs without any concequences, why not take it and try it out?
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It seems better to me in every way except time allowed for devs to find tweeks. A true comparison would be stock to stock.
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i just don't see this point ...
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1. swipe away notifications
2. more consistent look-and-feel with the fonts and colours
3. much nicer stock gapps
4. a better unlock screen, including the camera unlock and "My name" text option
5. resizable widgets
6. better organization of menus and submenus
7. works on tablets AND phones
8. more intuitive way to add widgets and organize your home screens with folders
9. better multi-tasking with the recent apps screen
10. face unlock
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1. swipe away notifications
2. more consistent look-and-feel with the fonts and colours
3. much nicer stock gapps
4. a better unlock screen, including the camera unlock and "My name" text option
5. resizable widgets
6. better organization of menus and submenus
7. works on tablets AND phones
8. more intuitive way to add widgets and organize your home screens with folders
9. better multi-tasking with the recent apps screen
10. face unlock
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Most of this is available in CM7, ADW Ex, some add ons etc.
Many don't care about face unlock, multitask changes but the honeycomb style gmail widget is nice.
bjrmd said:
Most of this is available in CM7, ADW Ex, some add ons etc.
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Then what's so great about Gingerbread? You can find most of the GB advantages in Froyo custom ROMs. Or most of FROYO custom ROMs in Eclair custom ROMs. This kinda defeats the point of the question, right?
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Many don't care about face unlock, multitask changes
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Hey, they're still fair answers someone will care about them and they're still technically "an advantage"
Not everyone is gonna like it, but I've been running various ICS roms since it came out, and I can't go back to GB. To be honest, when I use a phone with GB now, I immediately think "eww..." in my head. It just feels really ghetto compared to ICS.
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Then what's so great about Gingerbread? You can find most of the GB advantages in Froyo custom ROMs. Or most of FROYO custom ROMs in Eclair custom ROMs. This kinda defeats the point of the question, right?
Oh
Hey, they're still fair answers someone will care about them and they're still technically "an advantage"
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Addons are now optonal instead of mandatory to get a good experience. That's a huge improvement already.
Previous I wouldn't upgrade to other roms cause it took forever to add everything back. Now things just work out of the box. It's kinda like going to a mac from a PC.
You mean spending twice the money for the same hardware?
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You mean spending twice the money for the same hardware?
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My company pays for my laptops so money doesnt matter. Sometimes you pay more than twice the money for less hardware if you really look at it.
I'm just saying that its easier to get up and running with a mac than a pc (and to try and bring it back to the original topic) just like it is easier to get up and running with ics than gb
Disagree with both.
maybe you've never really given both a honest try.
I have given both a honest try. That is irrelevant anyways
ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
Best rom that's stable and most themed is Sky ice cream rom by Sean. GO flash it hands down the best rom in our dev forum.
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ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
Yap its still young phone and we still have more roms compare to vivid and holiday combine. Once ICS comes than it will be different flashing game haha
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
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So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
Element_01303 said:
So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
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You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
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exactly, you don't need to root or flash a custom rom to get rid of Touchwiz. For example, download "Gingerbread Launcher" and set as default when it prompts you. Turns your phone into a vanilla gingerbread android phone and Touchwiz is gone. I use ADW Launcher Ex and set it to "Fast" preset. Phone absolutely flies and no sign of Touchwiz anywhere. Stock everything for me.
ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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WTF?
really?
does anyone actually understand that Touchwiz is MORE than a launcher?
and you cant remove it from the launcher bar? where did you hear such asinine things?
its pretty well documented all over the Touchwiz device forums how the launcher bar works....SMH
app drawer
menu button
view type
customizable grid
menu button
edit
drag n freakin drop what you want, where you want
DONE
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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Really? I make it my business to never take part in flaming or making a member feel unwanted, but really? What have you contributed to the community to make such a demand? Such a request shows your ignorance towards the hard work and dedication that is put into the work that you use for FREE!
If you are not satisfied with the the work the community provides, don't use it. I speak for the entire development community when I say Restore your device to stock and STFU you ungrateful bastard.
If i offended anyone, I apologize but it's individuals like this guy that make devs feel unappreciated.
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Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
Wtf, you know this thread is a year old? No you can't remove touch and what does tibu and rom manager have to do with it?
What was the best before sliced bread?
nemaca said:
Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
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you are in the skyrocket section, you need to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1952. and the answer is yes you can remove touchwiz.
No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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mtdew said:
No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
quikt said:
Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
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For clarity, you can't remove it but, you're correct that, you can find roms that don't rely on tw.
What was the best before sliced bread?
I can't understand what you guys are saying about . Why he want to install a new rom ??? Just remove touchwiz using Root explorer like ES File editor and add a custom launcher like Nova . Is that the easy method ???
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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Hope you are doing well . Sorry if my question was wrong . I can't understand . Touchwiz is a launcher created by samsung for their devices .
Or is touchwiz a rom or kernal ? .I DELETED TOUCHWIZ FROM MY S DUOS . I am using nova launcher succesfully without any error .
Please describe me if my assumption about tochwiz was wrong.
Touchwiz consists of several pieces taking out the launcher is part of it but that doesn't remove touchwiz itself. Touchwiz is deeper than a launcher.
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I'm not smart enough to do it myself.. however, I am still amazed that no one has been able to work out how to convert an i9505 into a i9505G. I know the partition layout is different, and I also know that there are ported 4.3 GE roms available.. BUT all of that aside.. has Samsung won the war here?
Which leads me to a separate subject.. but.. their knox efuse.. while it hasn't been long.. it looks like they have won there as well.
In any case.. I'm more interested in the conversion to i9505G. Does anyone know more than I do about the status or possibility of ever being able to convert a i9505 to a i9505G?
Well.. This is not as easy as you may think.
Need someone who has both I9505 and I9505G. Also need special connection to I9505 like JTAG to get direct access to flash. Then using JTAG try to dump whole flash from I9505G and upload it to I9505. And then depend on success and whole result, procedure can be simplified.
But JTAG is required at experiment stage if you are not so rich who can afford to buy tens (if not hundred) I9505 while experimenting
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
Aerys said:
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
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That's why i've mentioned JTAG. Google JTAG if you wanna know what is that.
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A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
Aerys said:
I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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I couldn't care less about running ROMs. I unlocked the bootloader but otherwise I leave my devices stock and unrooted. I know how to root and install ROMs but once I knew how, my curiosity was satisfied.
Honestly, I have had Nexus devices my entire Android life. I decided to branch out and try a GS4 with Touchwiz. I really liked my I337, so much in fact, that I also ended up purchasing a Galaxy Note 8.0 as well. There are definitely things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see Google add to the stock user experience. I'm referring to things like air view and having separate wallpapers for the home and lock screens. Alas, though, when you've used stock Android as much as I have, it's hard to use anything else.
The only thing I truly miss about Touchwiz is the camera app. The camera was simply amazing. The other things that are important to me, namely the IR blaster and the S-View cover functionality, both work flawlessly on the I9505G.
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android. And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
I would think about I9505G over I9505 only as device with bigger user storage running custom TW ROM, but it looks like not much success here.
From other side, you can buy 32GB version of I9505 and don't think about 16GB-only I9505G.
But hey, there are SHV-E330 and GT-I9506 already
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android.
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You mean Holo I believe. That's why I use stock Android. TW with its different colors, big buttons that are not even separated from others and mixed styles in applications is really crazy and a pain to use. For people that like to use a phone without distractions it's a plain and simple fail.
Nice to have options as we're all not the same, you keep your TW phone, I will keep my stock Android one.
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And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
If you think, it's not serious, then hold on and think first. May be other person, who is talking about this, knows something you don't know.
I'm not even talking about how serious people who are buying non-Nexus device and then whining about CM/AOSP in half of topics.
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
In any case what you might consider essential I might consider a waste of resources.
That was the point of my post. That's why Android is a success.
And if you don't like to read people talking about changing non-Google devices you might be better off XDA.
XDA Developers was founded for developers by developers. It is now a valuable resource for people who want to make the most of their mobile devices, from customizing the look and feel to adding new functionality.
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
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If you are able to create custom ROM then removing unneeded apps (and even editing framework to cleanup from some useless features) is much easier than add absent functionality.
I suppose, we are on XDA, i.e. developer's forum right? If you are talking from regular user point of view who usually don't know what is "root", then it's out of scope of this board. Just buy Nexus device and then you are set.
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And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I've told you already: there is no way to truly replace lockscreen by any other application. Lockscreen is a part of framework, not APK. I'm using android devices not the first year, and believe me, i've tried these apps long long time ago. These apps mimic lockscreen using some security holes in OS, but they are not replacing lockscreen. Actually, device remains unlocked all the time. Also there are many bugs and glitches because such apps trying to suppress original lockscreen with different kinds of success/fail.
As for modifying device: there are many ways to modify and it's not exactly by installing CM/AOSP. You can check my topics to see that i'm not just user.
XDA has been created long time before CM/AOSP and believe me there are many other good ways to modify the device. CM/AOSP have their own dedicated forums and repositories which should suit your needs better than XDA (if you want to compete in pointing directions to others).
P.S.: look into I9505G forum to see how users begging to add samsung's standard camera app which doesn't work on non-TW ROM.
Suggest them to install some app from Google play
The same can tell about video player and amount of video and audio codecs integrated into TW ROM. On TW ROM i can use nearly any music player and able to playback almost any audio and video. On GE ROM you have to find special audio player having support of some specific format, and then try to get used to its bugs without choice to switch to another player. With video player it's even worse...
Also, CM/AOSP usually don't have tight integration when it comes to Hardware 3D acceleration. Some selected devices (usually Nexus and GE devices) have good 3D support, but only some.
The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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I never denied that TW based ROMs have value for some people, just that as well stock Android is much more attractive for others. If not we wouldn't be discussing this and you wouldn't see the kind of activity we see in this forum.
And I still disagree on the "easier" issue but I fail to see any benefit in continuing the discussion.
got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
spilksch said:
got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
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Look at the window?
So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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andreqm said:
So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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Why would you need to ? You have CM/TW/GE to choose from when using the i9505 partition layout. Took us a couple of hours to get KitKat after the GE got it (broodplank delivered AOSP 4.4 even earlier).
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.
soralz said:
The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.
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Cool . Thanks a lot.
BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Woolf said:
Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
zephiK said:
Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.
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Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.
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I know dude yr just kidding. Only reason is i saw the phone that my buddy have. Somehow due to its pure android its looks so simple. Even phone setting has everything in one tab. As I had all Sammy phone so far i am pretty used to with that. That was the only reason lol. All cool ^_^
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But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?
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just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?
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OPO... my mind is always tempted to write OPPO... which kinda is true.
The build quality, included storage (64GB vs 16GB), software and even battery life are better for me.
With that much space, not having an SD Card is not a problem to me.
Camera seems to be good, maybe not as good as the S5 in daylight but very good on it's own.
My S5 even when having top of the line specs (38k+ in Antutu) lagged thanks to Touchwiz. Never again.
^^ what he said. I've had galaxy devices since they were released. Believe me cm is MUCH better. Take some time to immerse yourself in the settings - it will really amaze you how much faster cm is.
Cm is actually one of the plainer aosp ROMs - check out carbon or liquid smooth - tweaktastic!
But... Touchwiz is the Satan of ROMs! Touchwiz is so slow and filled with useless blaotware from Samsung. I'd rather use Sense 6.
drakester09 said:
But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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I think you may want to look up the definition of the word literally.
BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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sublimaze said:
Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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Its too high level talk for me . Pass
I like touchwhiz because of S health.
I really want to buy a OPO but i use S health every day and i will miss it so hard.
Never found a decent alternative (accuracy or battery usage)
I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.
galmok said:
I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.
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You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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timmaaa said:
You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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Pretty much a non-answer.
galmok said:
Pretty much a non-answer.
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How is that a non answer? You can get your One to do every single one of those things by using a launcher like Apex or Nova. Are you not reading or something??
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Any tip for a more clean userinterface and better costumization options.... i dont wan't animations, flashing, sounds, blinks and all bells and wissels everywhere and no whay to get rid of it.. i want a nice clean android the don't use 80% of battery and perfomance on useless ****.
I loved cyanogen mod on my samsund devices but i there is no final relese for the hh8 from what i have found.
// parabolan
@parra
You should've bought another device.
There are sounds and animations by default in cyanogenmod too, as on any other smartphone.
Latest cyanogenmod 14.1 (lineageos) doesn't even have support for theming yet.
That's everyone's issue with emui. Use these theme in this thread. Download and change .Zip to .Get then put them in local > theme
Open themes app and apply
Has no effect on location of buttons and layout
The sounds and animations are possible to be disable in every ROM! And they come active by default in every ROM!
So that's a "no-question"
The performance of the device, by default, is very good and you shouldn't have complains on that, specially if you come from an older device.
The battery is also pretty good, normally it lasts me a full day with some heavy use (not a lot of gaming, but there is no phone in the market that lasts long playing games!)
Besides the nice battery, the fast charge is great and very usefull!
But indeed, if you like to try and change ROM's, you bought the wrong device!
wait for emui5, you will love it..
ViCioPT said:
The sounds and animations are possible to be disable in every ROM! And they come active by default in every ROM!
So that's a "no-question"
The performance of the device, by default, is very good and you shouldn't have complains on that, specially if you come from an older device.
The battery is also pretty good, normally it lasts me a full day with some heavy use (not a lot of gaming, but there is no phone in the market that lasts long playing games!)
Besides the nice battery, the fast charge is great and very usefull!
But indeed, if you like to try and change ROM's, you bought the wrong device!
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i miss my HTC Desire HD with cyanogen, that was the last smartphone i was realy happy with, and it was built like a brick and great performance,,,, well i´ll give the honor8 to my wife or son, they will love it and i´ll return to my galaxy s5 again, 3rd time i get a new phone and go back to the s5....
thilak devraj said:
wait for emui5, you will love it..
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That or install the Google Now Launcher from the Play Store.
parra said:
Any tip for a more clean userinterface and better costumization options.... i dont wan't animations, flashing, sounds, blinks and all bells and wissels everywhere and no whay to get rid of it.. i want a nice clean android the don't use 80% of battery and perfomance on useless ****.
I loved cyanogen mod on my samsund devices but i there is no final relese for the hh8 from what i have found.
// parabolan
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I really think you should've researched your purchase before buying this phone; it sounds like something like the One Plus 3/3T or a Nexus would've suited your tastes more. Or just any device with a really healthy developer community.
DarkGuyver said:
That or install the Google Now Launcher from the Play Store.
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Do this! First thing I did. It's practically stock looking.
DarkGuyver said:
That or install the Google Now Launcher from the Play Store.
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good idea, but google now laucher doesnt replace the whole emui..
parra said:
Any tip for a more clean userinterface and better costumization options.... i dont wan't animations, flashing, sounds, blinks and all bells and wissels everywhere and no whay to get rid of it.. i want a nice clean android the don't use 80% of battery and perfomance on useless ****.
I loved cyanogen mod on my samsund devices but i there is no final relese for the hh8 from what i have found.
// parabolan
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Here is what I have to like about EMUI. While it is customized over stock android, it is also optimized very nicely to work with the Kirin processors and not to mention the dual-lens camera. From my experience, it is better than TouchWiz as TouchWiz gets slow as usage increases while EMUI is fantastic so far for me.
The sounds and personalization is in every stock ROM. If you wanted clean android, then you may have to pick Pixel but then again, Google themselves have said they are using a customized version of android in Pixel unlike Nexus. Again, that is a good thing as that helps OEMs (even Google) to optimize for the device.
thilak devraj said:
good idea, but google now laucher doesnt replace the whole emui..
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I know but it will give you a more stock android like experience for now. Until Nougat is released for the Honor 8.
DarkGuyver said:
I know but it will give you a more stock android like experience for now. Until Nougat is released for the Honor 8.
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It's already out!
Check this thread
Three thing I don't like about EMUI 4 is the notification shade, non sensical setting menu and no app drawer.
Luckyly I just got EMUI 5. It has nougat style notification, app drawer option and better setting menu. Last one still bugs me a little as a few setting still hidden under pile of menu.
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Three thing I don't like about EMUI 4 is the notification shade, non sensical setting menu and no app drawer.
Luckyly I just got EMUI 5. It has nougat style notification, app drawer option and better setting menu. Last one still bugs me a little as a few setting still hidden under pile of menu.
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EMUI 5, saved the day, it a realy nice android phone without the need for unlocking and rooting just to be able to use it. ill stick with the EMUI5 for now and use a samsung s5 and virtual machines in vs to run code. nice to have a phone thats actually a phone for a time and not a android andset thar sometimes can be used for voicecalls like it usualy endsup when tje modding goes overboard.