Moving to a new ROM - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been using RobbieL811 Uber rom for quite a while but now development seems to have come to a halt. A couple of posters say move to a new ROM so I tried Resurrection Remix. I don't have time to move my data (Inc save games that don't cloud save) individually, so I Googled the best way to do this. I got a load of 2013 posts about restoring the data partition from the nandroid backup. After installing RR and restoring the backup of the data I just get boot freeze. Is there something I'm missing?

Gingepie49 said:
I've been using RobbieL811 Uber rom for quite a while but now development seems to have come to a halt. A couple of posters say move to a new ROM so I tried Resurrection Remix. I don't have time to move my data (Inc save games that don't cloud save) individually, so I Googled the best way to do this. I got a load of 2013 posts about restoring the data partition from the nandroid backup. After installing RR and restoring the backup of the data I just get boot freeze. Is there something I'm missing?
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I don't know who said to restore a data backup from a nandroid, that's wrong, it's a huge no-no. The data backup includes all data from the ROM, not just apps, so it's attempting to restore incompatible system settings and stuff like that. You can just use Titanium Backup to make backups of your apps and then restore them after you've flashed your new ROM.

Yep titanium is what u need
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Thanks for your assist guys, tried what you suggested and it worked! Until I rebooted. Now it just boots for ages. And nothing else. I've unselected any system apps.

Gingepie49 said:
Thanks for your assist guys, tried what you suggested and it worked! Until I rebooted. Now it just boots for ages. And nothing else. I've unselected any system apps.
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Exactly what did you do? You need to provide a detailed account of everything that lead to this point. What did you restore with Titanium?

I did two over the course of the night, the first I restored everything, including system apps like dialler, Gmail etc. But this broke it. So I wiped, installed, and restored only missing apps and data. Still broken on reboot.

Gingepie49 said:
I did two over the course of the night, the first I restored everything, including system apps like dialler, Gmail etc. But this broke it. So I wiped, installed, and restored only missing apps and data. Still broken on reboot.
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You can't restore system apps/data, that's why it was borked the first time. It's also possible that you restored system/app data the second time too. Only ever restore user apps.

Heisenberg said:
You can't restore system apps/data, that's why it was borked the first time. It's also possible that you restored system/app data the second time too. Only ever restore user apps.
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After using titanium to restore user apps and data, some apps just force closed on opening unless I removed the data then it worked. Decided to restore from backup and give it up until 6.0 rom appears.

Make sure you start with a clean slate. Factory reset and flash new Rom before restoring any backup. Are you good up to that point?

I don't know what you're doing wrong man, I change ROMS every now and then, and I just backup my games and apps with Titanium Backup, install new ROM, and restore my apps, always works unless you mess up real bad

titanium backup pro (worth it for flashaholics) or zipme
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Gingepie49 said:
After using titanium to restore user apps and data, some apps just force closed on opening unless I removed the data then it worked. Decided to restore from backup and give it up until 6.0 rom appears.
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i have never had that issues on 5 different phones and multiple different roms... try rom toolbox or zipme

Finally gave it one last ditch attempt (well two, actually).
Tried flashing Sultan Cm12 rom, but it unroots the device so bailed on it.
Put latest Resurrection Remix on, restored user apps but was more careful about when I restored. Mostly Google apps and some xposed apps, some Robbie rom stuff that wasn't needed and voila! Posting this from a working rom! Had to reinstall xposed framework and Waze from scratch but that's fine.
Thanks for the support guys!

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[Q] Titanium backup question

Searched and didn't find this specific question or anything close - so I'll post
I've been flashing roms a lot now that I've got the hang of it, but I think I was creating a problem for myself with titanium backup, which I think I've maybe now solved, but I'm not absolutely sure.
On the last couple of nighlies of CM that I've flashed I've been getting unfixable FC of the phone app (rom manager fix permissions didn't fix it and neither did wiping dalvik cache).
So I flashed ns-collab and I like it, but today I got the same FC problems and had to restore my nandroid to get the phone working (I was at work).
NS-collab is meant to be stable so I was starting to think that it's not the roms that are at fault but something I'm doing, and I had a feeling it was what I do with TB. So here is exactly what I do when I flash a new rom.
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I have TB set to "backup all user apps". That's it - no system data.
Before flashing the rom (even if it's just an update) I clear data, cache, and dalvik cache.
When I've got the new rom flashed I do not allow google backup to restore my stuff as I want it done with TB.
In TB restore I run "Restore all apps with data". When I do this I select the app+data checkbox in TB before clicking "Run the batch operation".
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So, I had a look at the apps that get restored when I run TB "Restore all apps with data", and I noticed there is quite a lot of android stuff in there like the dialler and lots of other services that are part of the android os and don't need restored with TB really.
I've just flashed the updated version of ns-collab and I removed all these android services from the TB restore before I ran it so I'll see if any problems crop up now.
But my question is, was I causing the phone to be unstable by allowing these android services to be restored by TB. Remember I did not select to restore system data, but I am wondering if system data was restored anyway because there were android apps in the list and I had the app+data option selected.
Hope the above isn't confusing and any advice will be appreciated.
Lot of information but I say you found your problem yourself.
I have not had issues in the past restoring: bookmarks, contacts/calls storage, SMS/MMS/APN Dialer storage, SMS/MMS PREFS etc.
I do think you are giving yourself a little extra work than needed. It is not necessary to do a data wipe before updating a ROM, wiping cache and dalvik cache should be sufficient and a lot of people don't even do that. Of course a good clean wipe every now and then is good and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside like after you change the oil in your car
In general, I do not recommend a full batch restore like restore all apps and data. I find when restoring with TB it is a good time to clean up and only restore the apps your really want back on your phone. I also do a batch restore, de-select all and just go down the list and pick out the stuff I HAVE to have.
irishrally said:
I have not had issues in the past restoring: bookmarks, contacts/calls storage, SMS/MMS/APN Dialer storage, SMS/MMS PREFS etc.
I do think you are giving yourself a little extra work than needed. It is not necessary to do a data wipe before updating a ROM, wiping cache and dalvik cache should be sufficient and a lot of people don't even do that. Of course a good clean wipe every now and then is good and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside like after you change the oil in your car
In general, I do not recommend a full batch restore like restore all apps and data. I find when restoring with TB it is a good time to clean up and only restore the apps your really want back on your phone. I also do a batch restore, de-select all and just go down the list and pick out the stuff I HAVE to have.
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I think you are right about me giving myself work. Because I'm still a noob I'm still over cautious I think.
Maybe I'll try doing it your way. Sounds sensible.
Anybody know definitively whether me restoring everything via all apps and data would have contributed to the FCs I have been getting?
buachaille said:
I think you are right about me giving myself work. Because I'm still a noob I'm still over cautious I think.
Maybe I'll try doing it your way. Sounds sensible.
Anybody know definitively whether me restoring everything via all apps and data would have contributed to the FCs I have been getting?
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Did you try fixing permissions? I only use the batch for Backup all user apps.
Backing up bookmarks.. I use BookmarkSB and SMS (i know theres a app for that) but i use GVoice so i dont need it
I've never had a problem restoring user apps with data. Instead of restoring all, choose restore missing user apps with data or something like that.
Although, I've had problems restoring SMS and certain data for system apps on the NS. Can't figure out why it doesn't work but whatever.
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I would suggest you install app2sd & move your application to the sd-card. Each time you flash a new rom just wipe the /cache, dalvik-cache and battery stats. This is all you would ever require.
Thanks for all the replies. Quite a few suggestions there which I will try out.
Didn't have any FC problems at all at work today, so I'm hoping my more cautious restore last night might have done the trick.
buachaille said:
Thanks for all the replies. Quite a few suggestions there which I will try out.
Didn't have any FC problems at all at work today, so I'm hoping my more cautious restore last night might have done the trick.
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Yeah FCs happen when you backup system apps / bookmarks etc. It could interfere

ROM ?

how can i upload a new rom and not have all of my apps gone...?? i hate having to download all my apps and ish again, is there away to avoid this
Use Titanium Backup and backup all of your current apps. There is a free version of it on the market
You can also use cwm.
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Well the only time you have to Factory Restore (delete everything) is when going from 2 different roms. If you are on stock, you'll have to wipe and format to go to CM7. BUT if you are on CM7 and just want to upgrade to a newer version... no wipe is required. Once you flash, everything will still be installed and configured like you had it.
So if you are forced to Factory Restore and wipe everything, it is always best to just do it. Just do it and set up everything back up on the new Rom, then just upgrade that from then on.
When you use Backup programs, they tend to "carry" over stuff from other roms that can cause bugs and instabilities. A typical rule of thumb is to not restore a backup that was created on another rom. Will it work? Probably. Should You? Probably Not.
I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
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I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
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He is asking for app not apn.
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I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.
K2sInteg98 said:
I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.
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It's because LG ROMs use internal storage as primary storage.. Change your backup directory to sdcard/External_SD/Titanium Backup and it should work.
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jose makalolot said:
He is asking for app not apn.
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I know, but one of my pet peeves when installing a new ROM is having to type in APN settings manually after reinstalling my apps, so I threw that in as a bonus.
thank to everybody who helped oon this!

[Q] Restoring After Flashing

I just flashed my first custom ROM...went from rooted GB to CM7.2.0...no problems...flashed the ROM, Gapps package, & padded modem (although I have no idea what a padded modem is). When I started to restore apps + data using Titanium Backup, the restore process locked up on Bluetooth Perm Test. Since I am inexperienced, I flashed back to GB. TB did a perfect restore, including putting my icons back where I had them. Anyone have any ideas why the restore locked up?
Thanks for any help...
Just back up user apps. Restoring system data between roms is a good way to bring in gremlins
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Just back up user apps. Restoring system data between roms is a good way to bring in gremlins
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OK...I see where "backup all user apps" is an option....but all the restore options include restoring data. I guess I could restore the user apps one at a time although that might be fairly time consuming. Any other thoughts?
Thanks for the reply.
I think under batch actions when you choose to restore all backed up stuff it gives you the option to restore app+data, just app or just data. I think that as long as you're staying in gingerbread the user app data shouldn't cause any problems.
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If you've already gone back to stock wipe out all the backups and only backup user apps that way when you get back to cm7 the system stuff won't show up and mix things up
When restoring apps, only select the ones you want... those checks on the left aren't just decorations.
Titanium pro (donate) has the option to restore a batch of however you desire... well worth the money
champ1919 said:
Titanium pro (donate) has the option to restore a batch of however you desire... well worth the money
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I do have the paid version...the 5 batch restore options are:
1. Restore missing apps with data
2. Restore all apps with data
3. Restore all system data
4. Restore missing apps + all system data (I know I'm not supposed to use this one)
5. Restore newer versions of user apps
There is also the option of creating an "update.zip" from app+data backups...I'm assuming that to restore, you would flash this like a ROM.
When I tried to restore the first time...and it locked up during "Bluetooth Perm Test"...I was using the #2 option..restore all apps with data.
There's also the filter options.
I've never had any luck restoring data across platforms, so, I just stopped...
Should have done option 1, which lets you pick which apps you want to restore.
Theraze said:
Should have done option 1, which lets you pick which apps you want to restore.
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Yep...that did it...thanks!

[Resolved] [Q] Problems restoring apps with titanium backup

This is now solved, to anyone else with the same problem the following were most likely to have fixed it:
jl0932 said:
I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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Umar08 said:
Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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FarmGeek4Life said:
You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.
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Original problem
I have been having problems restoring apps with titanium backup and so far no one has been able to find the solution, I couldn't find a solution on google and titanium backup support isn't responding to my support request. Anyways, I'm trying to restore apps from pandasa123's unofficial cyanogenmod to matrixzone's unofficial cyanogenmod. When I restore on the free version it opens install window and then when it says installing it changes to app not installed. Suspected problem apps are Bloons TD 5, Drunken Wrestlers and Star Wars: Commander. When I had the free version, it seems after trying to restore drunkin wrestlers and it says app not installed then all the apps after say app not installed except a few like google authenticator. I tried again with the paid version and it still got stuck restoring things like drunkin wrestlers, bloons td 5, star wars commander. I have already tried the troubleshooting steps in tibu and have tried multiple times to restore. I have also tried older versions no luck. I could successfully restore those apps when I went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.
Also would there be any work around to manually restore the apps? Any other backup apps that are good?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M
Rooted: Yes
Anyone?
Please, anyone? I don't want to be stuck with this rom.
I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
angusc said:
And one final tip that i use.........when setting up a ROM from scratch, do not sign in to the Google account until AFTER you have RESTORED all the user Apps with Titanium as the Market will try to restore all your apps from your Market user history, which is OK but will conflict with your BATCH RESTORE using TItanium Backup.
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Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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TimeAndroid said:
I have been having problems restoring apps with titanium backup and so far no one has been able to find the solution, I couldn't find a solution on google and titanium backup support isn't responding to my support request. Anyways, I'm trying to restore apps from pandasa123's unofficial cyanogenmod to matrixzone's unofficial cyanogenmod. When I restore on the free version it opens install window and then when it says installing it changes to app not installed. Suspected problem apps are Bloons TD 5, Drunken Wrestlers and Star Wars: Commander. When I had the free version, it seems after trying to restore drunkin wrestlers and it says app not installed then all the apps after say app not installed except a few like google authenticator. I tried again with the paid version and it still got stuck restoring things like drunkin wrestlers, bloons td 5, star wars commander. I have already tried the troubleshooting steps in tibu and have tried multiple times to restore. I have also tried older versions no luck. I could successfully restore those apps when I went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.
Also would there be any work around to manually restore the apps? Any other backup apps that are good?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M
Rooted: Yes
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art or delvic?
may be because of this can not be restored?
Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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Umar08 said:
Where are the apps backed up to? And im guessing its because the directory for the apps is different than the other rom you had. I had a problem where i couldn't uninstall system apps with Titanium backup, i eventually found out the directory for apps is different on 4.0 ice cream sandwich than on 4.4.2 kitkat.
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They are backed up to my external SD card.
Cheshkin said:
art or delvic?
may be because of this can not be restored?
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ART. At least it should be ART since I'm going from a lollipop rom to another lollipop.
jl0932 said:
I recall there is one thread talking about the similar issue but I didn’t bookmark it.
But you can refer to this first. Check second paragraph from the bottom.
Both threads mentioned about conflict between Store restore and Titanium Backup restore.
The other thread suggests uncheck “Auto Restore” in Setting->”Backup and Restore”. I tried this once before, work for me.
Hope this helpful for you.
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Thanks, I don't restore any of my apps from the play store (unchecked "All Apps" in the restore screens on initial setup of the rom) but do have some games connected to Google Play Games. Would this solution still possibly work?
It still doesn't restore properly and it seems to also get stuck on a new game I downloaded called LogoMania too. I didn't add a Google account at setup until I had to go to the play store to download tibu and tibu pro but made sure auto restore was off in settings. I also unchecked the malware detection in google settings and saved the apps to my internal instead of external sd but still no luck.
You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.
FarmGeek4Life said:
You're more likely to have problems restoring entire apps with Titanium Backup than just restoring data; if you are having problems, try reinstalling the app from whichever source it came from, then restore data.
I've never had problems restoring data between roms, but I've read many warnings against restoring apps when changing roms.
Also, when changing between very similar roms, you often don't need to wipe data, unless you are "downgrading" to a version compiled from older source.
You can always do a /system partition format and flash a new rom, then see if it will boot without issues. I've also be able to selectively wipe data for problematic apps to fix them.
I really don't like the nuclear option of factory resets, just because it can take hours to bring a phone back to a state similar to the state it was in, and it can affect saved states for some apps that attached to the device ID.
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So in order to only restore data, I would:
1. Install the app from Google Play
2. In tibu, do a batch restore and select "data only" instead of "apps+data"
Is that correct?
TimeAndroid said:
So in order to only restore data, I would:
1. Install the app from Google Play
2. In tibu, do a batch restore and select "data only" instead of "apps+data"
Is that correct?
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Yes.
One important step before you restore is the verify the backups. Go into TB->batch->Verify Backups. See if everything is okay with no errors.
Also, remember some apps may not be compatible with your upgraded Android version.
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One important step before you restore is the verify the backups. Go into TB->batch->Verify Backups. See if everything is okay with no errors.
Also, remember some apps may not be compatible with your upgraded Android version.
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I verify every time. Also, I'm on android 5.0.2 already trying to get to another 5.0.2 rom I believe.
One more thing I forgot to mention: if you want to recover an app, try to recover it without data. Recovering data for apps between CM versions, or even app versions, can cause headaches sometimes (especially Google apps).
Also, TB has a website with help. Maybe there is an answer in the docs to help you.
Thanks guys, it worked!

[Q] Keeping old sign-ins, appa, etc after flashing new Roms?

When I flash new Roms, I wipe everything (as required usually via TWRP). After getting the new ROM, I always have to download old apps, sign in to everything, etc. Is there anyway to avoid this hassle of always having to sign in and download apps?
Yes. It's called Titanium Backup. Get the paid version.
You can backup your apps with their settings (sign-ins etc) and just restore them after you flashed a new rom and re-installed Titanium Backup.
A few caveats:
Never restore system settings from TiBu.
Although restoring apps from TiBu works fine most times, if you run into weird problems, you may need to install apps from scratch anyway. But always worth to try....
Depending on which rom you run, the HTC Backup app actually is a nice companion to TiBu, taking care of phone settings, texts etc - if you run a sense rom.
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for, so thank you!

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