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back up when switching between roms.

hi there guys,
I have some questions about how to make a total back-up of your rom, so you don't have to setup your apps and stuff like that, when you wanna try something new. Setting everything up when I wanna go back,is holding me back.
hope this is not a total repost, if it is just show me the old thread, cause I couldn't find it.

Errr... A classical Nandroid (whole Rom with Kernel, Apps and Settings) and/or Titanium Backup (Apps and Settings - possible to transfer data between different roms) should offer everything you need
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?

Safidk said:
when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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I always backup and restore from recovery menu of clockwork, this means when restoring everything is put back as it was.
Not sure why this isn't working for you
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I downloaded (and paid for) the newest version of clockwork manager from the marked. How do you do it, just from the app or do you boot in recovery? When you say full recovery does that include everything, so you don't have to setup anything?

Yes mate, boot into recovery, select "backup and restore", then backup - this will save a full copy of your system as it stands. When you backup from the recovery menu it will put everything back exactly as it was when you backed it up - ie all apps & data already setup
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and before I recover I need to do a complete wipe, right. System, catch and factory?

No.. you dont need to wipe before restrore.
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ok, tnen I'm gonna try again. Don't see why its not working for me. There's not a secieal setup I need to do? I haven't done anything else than installing the app ;-)

Confusion?
I believe that there is a couple of differing questions are being asked and answered here.
A Nandroind backup or full device backup (excluding RADIO) will enable you to restore your device back to the exact state that it was in when taken. All the phone partitions SYSTEM/DATA/BOOT/CACHE/etc are all backed up. Therefore restoring one of these backups will ensure that the ROM, kernel and data will be restored together and the phone will be operational.
A Titanium Backup backs up applications and setup data that enables you to easily restore your installed applications and configuration. After a factory reset or a re-install of the same ROM.
It can often be problematic to use a titanium backup after changing the version of the ROM you used or when moving from one ROM to a completely different one. In fact quite often ROM cooks recommend that you don't use a Titanium backup restore in the setup of their ROM.
That being said I still take both types of backups on my device. As titanium backups are useful for restoring individual applications to a previous state if they encounter a problem or corruption.
I believe that the Nandroid backup is the most useful recovery tool we have available to us and always take one, before flashing any new ROM or ZIP file, better to be safe than sorry.
Although I'd also recommend that all personal data ie calendar & contacts should be backed up by sync'ing to the cloud and never just kept locally on the device.

[Q] Seamless move to different ROM with help of Titanium (how to?)

OK, so i have one mod and now i want to migrate to another mod.
I have a paid Titanium backup app and i know how to restore apps and their data, but i have a few questions:
1. i have customized my Titanium by having filters and backup schedules, how do i transfer these things to new mod? Reinstalling this app will get these settings lost
2. on a new mod - destination mod, how do i properly restore all the apps? Do i set to recover missing apps and app data only?
3. is it possible to get all the widgets and shortcuts on screens like i had before?

Do you mean ROM not MOD?

Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.

sromer said:
Do you mean ROM not MOD?
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YES sure
big_sw2000 said:
Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.
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Thank you, but still, there should be some other way to do that, since i might not restore all the apps, but just some of them, and i really want to have Titanium installed with the custom settings i as already use

As I understand Titanium backs up its own settings to he sd card. At least that's what mine does, I don't remember if I had to enable that in the settings though
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ar4l said:
As I understand Titanium backs up its own settings to he sd card. At least that's what mine does, I don't remember if I had to enable that in the settings though
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Yeah, you have to enable it in the tb settings, otherwise it won't backup your tb settings.
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I wouldn't rely on Titanium specially if you have ICS. I would use nandroid or CWM backup and restore data. You will get your Titanium as is too. You can always delete unwanted apps but if you can't restore that a diffrent story.

big_sw2000 said:
Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.
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will this also back/restore up text messages?

sykozylot said:
will this also back/restore up text messages?
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Im not 100%, but i think so

I'm not an expert but had done a few restore now after trying ics n goin back to gb. So with titanium, u do a restore missing apps n data...u can still deselect the app u don't want to restore
After that, u can restore some system data (in green) individually which includes ur txt msg, account info. Some can mess things up..like I restore the bookmark from gb to ics, n it crash in ics when opening bookmark
But others seems ok. To get all ur icons organized like b4, I restored the desktop one....these shld all b done just for the data if u r given a choice.
That's kinda my experience n it seems to b working ok now after I restore back to gb
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dadanepal said:
I wouldn't rely on Titanium specially if you have ICS. I would use nandroid or CWM backup and restore data. You will get your Titanium as is too. You can always delete unwanted apps but if you can't restore that a diffrent story.
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Anyone ever tried nandroid backup with gingerbread, then upgrading to ICS and then trying to restore the data partition?
I'm only asking because in this case (my case) most of the restored apps keep FC-ing. Everything else is restored perfectly - call lists, sms, mms, contacts list, favourite lists, backgrounds, sounds, ringtones... - you name it, it's there. So everything besides a lot of apps after restoring from nandroid works perfect even after upgrading from GB to ICS.
SO... any suggestions how to fix the apps FCs problem restoring from nandroid data partition? Thanx

Yes you can save titanium setting to ad card and it will restore by itself. Go to preference and tick first option auto synchronized TB setting. All done
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Unfortunately, i did that but it didn't work. I have the setting ticked, but i installed ICS 4.0.3 ROM and now i have a fresh Titanium Backup without any settings i had
jasminthoria said:
Yes you can save titanium setting to ad card and it will restore by itself. Go to preference and tick first option auto synchronized TB setting. All done
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camspy said:
OK, so i have one mod and now i want to migrate to another mod.
I have a paid Titanium backup app and i know how to restore apps and their data, but i have a few questions:
1. i have customized my Titanium by having filters and backup schedules, how do i transfer these things to new mod? Reinstalling this app will get these settings lost
2. on a new mod - destination mod, how do i properly restore all the apps? Do i set to recover missing apps and app data only?
3. is it possible to get all the widgets and shortcuts on screens like i had before?
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1. you could always use a secondary backup app like System Tuner Pro to backup your applications (particularly Titanium backup) then installing System Tuner Pro first then use it to Restore Titanium to the right working order.
2. I don't get this question.
3. Sadly, No
sykozylot said:
will this also back/restore up text messages?
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YES. it should be able to restore your messages.
jondalar said:
Anyone ever tried nandroid backup with gingerbread, then upgrading to ICS and then trying to restore the data partition?
I'm only asking because in this case (my case) most of the restored apps keep FC-ing. Everything else is restored perfectly - call lists, sms, mms, contacts list, favourite lists, backgrounds, sounds, ringtones... - you name it, it's there. So everything besides a lot of apps after restoring from nandroid works perfect even after upgrading from GB to ICS.
SO... any suggestions how to fix the apps FCs problem restoring from nandroid data partition? Thanx
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I don't think it is a good idea restoring GB data partition onto ICS. It is known to screw up the system/applications. Your applications need to be optimised so if you flashed it, the optimisation process may be skipped or cancelled out when you flash the data partition.

Is it safe to restore app data when switching ROMs?

If I backed up apps and data on an AOSP ROM and want to restore them on a JB ROM, for example, is it safe to restore app data through Titanium Backup? For whatever reason, Titanium Backup doesn't seem to offer an option to batch restore apps WITHOUT data, it only has "restore all apps with data." I've heard that this isn't advised, but I don't want to have to restore all of these apps individually. Seems odd that the top-selling root app doesn't have this option... waste of money if you ask me.
Keep in mind this isn't system data, as I only ever backup user apps.

ive done it without problems.
just dont do system data as you said.

Restoring apps with data is kind of the point of titanium backup. Feel free to do it across Roms, even phones.
If you don't want to restore data, there's a real button option after you choose 'restore missing apps with data' so you can just do apps.
I would avoid restoring system data. Especially when going from AOSP to TW or vice versa.
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Sometimes it can be a problem. Just try it.

I use Go Backup and just restored a bunch of apps from my DINC2 running ParanoidAndroid, I also restored my WiFI passwords and ringtone just fine. I think it might depend on the app.

Many people have said its not safe to restore system apps and data when switching between different ROMs. HOWEVER, what about when switching between versions of Cyanogen?
For instance I have been following the Release Candidate Versions for CyanogenMod 10.1.0. Right now I am on RC5. However, it is quite annoying to reset all of my system settings each time I flash the updated version. I'm wondering if because it is just a different version of the same ROM, if it would be advisable to backup and restore system apps+data when I flash to a new version.
Thanks

You might have to since there are likely to be changes from the previous version to the next version of the same ROM.

Restoring apps with data is generally fine. There will be some apps that may not work correctly and will require you to uninstall and reinstall from the playstore (ex, words with friends, notifications break on tibu restores), but in general is fine. Tibu will automatically not install apps that the system will reject (system or stock apps).
As far as system data goes, in general never do it. Just tap the batch restore of system data, uncheck all, and select a few basic items to restore. Choose xml format. What generally works across all roms is: call log, messages sms/mms, Wi-Fi access points, and Bluetooth access points. Those are the 4 you really only need, as it takes about 5 min to set up your main system settings. Main system settings vary to much between builds to restore safely, things will break. Full system data restore is only useful if wiping and installing the exact same rom, which almost never happens!

Thank you! Those were really the only 4 I care about...

My 2 cents..
It all comes down to whether the android version, system version, stock ota base, touch wiz vs aosp, gapps, launcher grid size etc changed when you switched roms. Also if app permissions change you can get apps that force close, most of the time you can fix this by fixing permissions via recovery or script command. If the app has been zipaligned then you'll have to wipe dalvik cache to get the app to rebuild its cache in some cases. In general, user apps are ok because most problems that may happen can easily be fixed.
Sorry this is a complex question with a lot of variables and I generalized a lot in my post.
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Restore Apps with Filter
Quacker said:
If I backed up apps and data on an AOSP ROM and want to restore them on a JB ROM, for example, is it safe to restore app data through Titanium Backup? For whatever reason, Titanium Backup doesn't seem to offer an option to batch restore apps WITHOUT data, it only has "restore all apps with data." I've heard that this isn't advised, but I don't want to have to restore all of these apps individually. Seems odd that the top-selling root app doesn't have this option... waste of money if you ask me.
Keep in mind this isn't system data, as I only ever backup user apps.
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It was mentioned earlier in the post but in case you missed it (I did the first few times using TiBU), you can hit the "Restore All Apps + Missing Data" and when you go to run that batch, you will come to a screen with all the apps checked. Just hit "unselect all" and then check the user apps you want to restore. That was you restore all your missing apps and the data for all apps except for the sys apps. Works like a charm!

lazarus0000 said:
It was mentioned earlier in the post but in case you missed it (I did the first few times using TiBU), you can hit the "Restore All Apps + Missing Data" and when you go to run that batch, you will come to a screen with all the apps checked. Just hit "unselect all" and then check the user apps you want to restore. That was you restore all your missing apps and the data for all apps except for the sys apps. Works like a charm!
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I always select "restore missing apps with data" and that's all user stuff. I don't back up system either so I don't have to worry about it.
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Just don't mention that you did this in the support thread for the ROM you're using

[Q] Full backup: which method is the most complete?

hi!
I'm owning a HTC One S since a few days, rooted, and I'm wondering about the best way to back up my device.
Actually I'd like to know what is the most powerful (i.e. more complete) backup app/method: Titanium/Go Backup (or similar), nandroid, or this one: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ultimate-backup-tool-no-root-required/ ?
If I wipe my cell, which method will allow me to restore it with same apps installed, same icons at the same place, same data and settings for each app (just like a Norton Ghost/Acronis TrueImage)? I think it's the nandroid backup, but I'm not an expert...
2nd question : if I loose this phone and I buy a new one (exact same), will I be able to restore my backup in the new one? Would it work?
3rd question : what about a non-rooted device (thinking to my wife's One V)? can I do a "Ghost" of her phone BEFORE I unlocked her phone's bootloader?
THANK YOU

kinda feel alone here...
anyway, I read more and here is what I understood: nandroid will backup everything like a Ghost, including the ROM. Titanium Backup will backup my apps and data, but not the widgets and homescreen, and Go Backup will backup apps/data/widgets/homescreen.
By saying "apps and data" does it mean "app settings" ?

mehcoib said:
kinda feel alone here...
anyway, I read more and here is what I understood: nandroid will backup everything like a Ghost, including the ROM. Titanium Backup will backup my apps and data, but not the widgets and homescreen, and Go Backup will backup apps/data/widgets/homescreen.
By saying "apps and data" does it mean "app settings" ?
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Don't know about go, but you are correct on everything else. App data is settings saved stuff etc, it's everything about that app. If you restore an app with data it will be exactly as it was when the backup was made.
You do need root to backup using titanium, but I think there are ways to back up some stuff, using other methods, but I don't know them.
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mehcoib said:
hi!
I'm owning a HTC One S since a few days, rooted, and I'm wondering about the best way to back up my device.
Actually I'd like to know what is the most powerful (i.e. more complete) backup app/method: Titanium/Go Backup (or similar), nandroid, or this one: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ultimate-backup-tool-no-root-required/ ?
If I wipe my cell, which method will allow me to restore it with same apps installed, same icons at the same place, same data and settings for each app (just like a Norton Ghost/Acronis TrueImage)? I think it's the nandroid backup, but I'm not an expert...
2nd question : if I loose this phone and I buy a new one (exact same), will I be able to restore my backup in the new one? Would it work?
3rd question : what about a non-rooted device (thinking to my wife's One V)? can I do a "Ghost" of her phone BEFORE I unlocked her phone's bootloader?
THANK YOU
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Most people seem to gravitate to titanium. I use the app manager in ROM toolbox pro.
OK, question two, yes. Backup the folder from your sd card to a PC. If you get a new phone just copy it to the new phones sd card install titanium (or whatever you used) and restore.
As for three I think you need to be unlocked to install a custom recovery so I don't think so.
Edit: nandroids (what you refer to as a ghost) are done through a custom recovery.
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travisjustin said:
Don't know about go, but you are correct on everything else. App data is settings saved stuff etc, it's everything about that app. If you restore an app with data it will be exactly as it was when the backup was made.
You do need root to backup using titanium, but I think there are ways to back up some stuff, using other methods, but I don't know them.
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Most people seem to gravitate to titanium. I use the app manager in ROM toolbox pro.
OK, question two, yes. Backup the folder from your sd card to a PC. If you get a new phone just copy it to the new phones sd card install titanium (or whatever you used) and restore.
As for three I think you need to be unlocked to install a custom recovery so I don't think so.
Edit: nandroids (what you refer to as a ghost) are done through a custom recovery.
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thanks you for all your answers.
Can anyone confirm Titanium Backup will not restore my "icons"/widgets/homescreens?

mehcoib said:
thanks you for all your answers.
Can anyone confirm Titanium Backup will not restore my "icons"/widgets/homescreens?
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You can, just need to find the system setting for the launcher and backup the data. As long as your new rom uses that same launcher. For example cm uses trebuchet. Apex and Nova are two popular third party ones. Widgets aren't saved though, everything else is.
If you're not using a launcher like apex or Nova I highly recommend you try it. I can't imagine going back to the stock launcher. Plus you don't have to worry about what launcher the rom uses, just back up your third party one like any other app and install on your new rom. Then hit home, set it as default, simple.
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Moving to a new ROM

I've been using RobbieL811 Uber rom for quite a while but now development seems to have come to a halt. A couple of posters say move to a new ROM so I tried Resurrection Remix. I don't have time to move my data (Inc save games that don't cloud save) individually, so I Googled the best way to do this. I got a load of 2013 posts about restoring the data partition from the nandroid backup. After installing RR and restoring the backup of the data I just get boot freeze. Is there something I'm missing?

Gingepie49 said:
I've been using RobbieL811 Uber rom for quite a while but now development seems to have come to a halt. A couple of posters say move to a new ROM so I tried Resurrection Remix. I don't have time to move my data (Inc save games that don't cloud save) individually, so I Googled the best way to do this. I got a load of 2013 posts about restoring the data partition from the nandroid backup. After installing RR and restoring the backup of the data I just get boot freeze. Is there something I'm missing?
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I don't know who said to restore a data backup from a nandroid, that's wrong, it's a huge no-no. The data backup includes all data from the ROM, not just apps, so it's attempting to restore incompatible system settings and stuff like that. You can just use Titanium Backup to make backups of your apps and then restore them after you've flashed your new ROM.

Yep titanium is what u need
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Got 99 problems
Thanks for your assist guys, tried what you suggested and it worked! Until I rebooted. Now it just boots for ages. And nothing else. I've unselected any system apps.

Gingepie49 said:
Thanks for your assist guys, tried what you suggested and it worked! Until I rebooted. Now it just boots for ages. And nothing else. I've unselected any system apps.
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Exactly what did you do? You need to provide a detailed account of everything that lead to this point. What did you restore with Titanium?

I did two over the course of the night, the first I restored everything, including system apps like dialler, Gmail etc. But this broke it. So I wiped, installed, and restored only missing apps and data. Still broken on reboot.

Gingepie49 said:
I did two over the course of the night, the first I restored everything, including system apps like dialler, Gmail etc. But this broke it. So I wiped, installed, and restored only missing apps and data. Still broken on reboot.
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You can't restore system apps/data, that's why it was borked the first time. It's also possible that you restored system/app data the second time too. Only ever restore user apps.

Heisenberg said:
You can't restore system apps/data, that's why it was borked the first time. It's also possible that you restored system/app data the second time too. Only ever restore user apps.
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After using titanium to restore user apps and data, some apps just force closed on opening unless I removed the data then it worked. Decided to restore from backup and give it up until 6.0 rom appears.

Make sure you start with a clean slate. Factory reset and flash new Rom before restoring any backup. Are you good up to that point?

I don't know what you're doing wrong man, I change ROMS every now and then, and I just backup my games and apps with Titanium Backup, install new ROM, and restore my apps, always works unless you mess up real bad

titanium backup pro (worth it for flashaholics) or zipme
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Gingepie49 said:
After using titanium to restore user apps and data, some apps just force closed on opening unless I removed the data then it worked. Decided to restore from backup and give it up until 6.0 rom appears.
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i have never had that issues on 5 different phones and multiple different roms... try rom toolbox or zipme

Finally gave it one last ditch attempt (well two, actually).
Tried flashing Sultan Cm12 rom, but it unroots the device so bailed on it.
Put latest Resurrection Remix on, restored user apps but was more careful about when I restored. Mostly Google apps and some xposed apps, some Robbie rom stuff that wasn't needed and voila! Posting this from a working rom! Had to reinstall xposed framework and Waze from scratch but that's fine.
Thanks for the support guys!