I was thinking of getting Z5 but have been kinda put off by initial user reviews. It sounds like the Z3 has better performance and battery life, while the Z5 has a fingerprint scanner and better camera.
Has anyone gone from a Z3 to Z5 that can comment on which one they find better?
Also will Sony's new camera update come to Z3 in November as well?
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I was thinking of getting Z5 but have been kinda put off by initial user reviews. It sounds like the Z3 has better performance and battery life, while the Z5 has a fingerprint scanner and better camera.
Has anyone gone from a Z3 to Z5 that can comment on which one they find better?
Also will Sony's new camera update come to Z3 in November as well?
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Having had both phones the fantastic battery life is the only thing i miss from the z3, i prefer everything else on the Z5
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Having had both phones the battery life is the only thing i miss from the z3
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How much worse is it?
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Having had both phones the fantastic battery life is the only thing i miss from the z3, i prefer everything else on the Z5
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What about performance? I've seen people say the Z5 has a laggy stock rom? How is it compared to Z3?
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So settings are auto brightness with brightness bar around 20% nd using stamina mode, all apps closed and wifi off only 4G on and this would be the same for both phones.
Friday night/saturday morning I took my phone off charge around 1 am woke up at 9.15am and battery drained 1% compared to the usual zero % on z3 so i thought not bad, from 10am I used the internet via wifi and the battery just started to dip I was like my gosh the Z3 is not like this. from 11 I was on the phone to my cousin who now has my Z3 I spoke to him for 45mins, I got to work and my battery was 89% & I did a 8 hour shift from 12pm wiith 4G on alll the time as I sometimes use my phone for a translator or if i need to check anything, at 5pm battery went down to 80% I went on lunch for 45mins and was using the internet and phone calls again for around 20mins battery dipped to 69%(it drops quite quickly on the internet, after that I turned my internet off by the time i finished work and left at 8.30pm i had 65% now when i was using the Z3 during the same 8 hour period, same usage I would have left work with around 82%.
On Average when I am at work my Z3 battery would last me 3 days easily as I dont have much time during the day to use the phone, on a day off when i use it more then 2 days or just under. With the Z5 it is a definately a day less battery in each scenario. Depending on Z5 Premium battery I might actually just trade my Z5 for the premium tbh as I feel I really need to 'baby' the Z5 to get good battery and I didn't have to do that with the Z3.
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What about performance? I've seen people say the Z5 has a laggy stock rom? How is it compared to Z3?
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No such issues here mate, smooth as silk and despite benchmarsk etc this thing is a damn site faster than my Galaxy S6 now thats what you call lag and don't even get me started on my Note 4.
I do have a few issues with my Z5 though and I will be returning it for a new one tomorrow is when I connect it to my laptop to transfer my files, it starts going crazy it keeps connecting/disconnecting and when it does stay connected I then get a message saying Z5 busy when I am trying to transfer files and finally sometimes it wont recognize headphones and i have to plug/unplug then or twist the headphones around in the jack to gain connection.
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No such issues here mate, smooth as silk and despite benchmarsk etc this thing is a damn site faster than my Galaxy S6 now thats what you call lag and don't even get me started on my Note 4.
I do have a few issues with my Z5 though and I will be returning it for a new one tomorrow is when I connect it to my laptop to transfer my files, it starts going crazy it keeps connecting/disconnecting and when it does stay connected I then get a message saying Z5 busy when I am trying to transfer files and finally sometimes it wont recognize headphones and i have to plug/unplug then or twist the headphones around in the jack to gain connection.
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Wow that's great then, heard differently from others but I guess I'll try and take a look at a store to see for myself. Haha yeah I had a G3 and that was the definition of lag.
Dam those problems sound annoying, how long have you had it for? For the first problem you could try a factory reset but the second problem sounds like a hardware fault.
Also are the camera and speakers much better than the Z3's?
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Having had both phones the fantastic battery life is the only thing i miss from the z3, i prefer everything else on the Z5
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I have both phones though I have CM12 on the Z3. It's hard to make a comparison as the Z3 has root and that has a lot of pluses. The issue I had with the Z3 is the charging flap is a pain and I never really could find a magnetic charging solution that I really liked.
From my perspective two big pluses of the Z5 are:
- position of charging point (and lack of flap)
- Qualcomm 2.0 charging
I'm not convinced the battery life on the Z5 will be all that bad once i get root. Right now it is hit or miss so far.
You know that the z3 also has quick charge 2.0, right?
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I have both phones though I have CM12 on the Z3. It's hard to make a comparison as the Z3 has root and that has a lot of pluses. The issue I had with the Z3 is the charging flap is a pain and I never really could find a magnetic charging solution that I really liked.
From my perspective two big pluses of the Z5 are:
- position of charging point (and lack of flap)
- Qualcomm 2.0 charging
I'm not convinced the battery life on the Z5 will be all that bad once i get root. Right now it is hit or miss so far.
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How are you finding the performance of the Z5? Better or worse than the Z3?
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Wow that's great then, heard differently from others but I guess I'll try and take a look at a store to see for myself. Haha yeah I had a G3 and that was the definition of lag.
Dam those problems sound annoying, how long have you had it for? For the first problem you could try a factory reset but the second problem sounds like a hardware fault.
Also are the camera and speakers much better than the Z3's?
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Yes definitely can't argue with performance amazing.
I got the phone on friday morning and thank I tried that and still same issue so I will return it today and get a new one.
Camera is miles better than the z3 infact camera was one of my biggest gripes regarding the z3 along with the audio volume in headphones both are far better on the z5.
As for loud speaker it is marginally better than the z3 not much but i prefer the placement of the speaker on the z5 much better, I didn't like on the z3 aesthetically.
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I have both phones though I have CM12 on the Z3. It's hard to make a comparison as the Z3 has root and that has a lot of pluses. The issue I had with the Z3 is the charging flap is a pain and I never really could find a magnetic charging solution that I really liked.
From my perspective two big pluses of the Z5 are:
- position of charging point (and lack of flap)
- Qualcomm 2.0 charging
I'm not convinced the battery life on the Z5 will be all that bad once i get root. Right now it is hit or miss so far.
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Battery definately isnt as bad as some review have made out but it not near z3 levels either and I dont root my phones until after a while.
To chip in, as another user coming from the Z3 to the Z5 I wholeheartedly agree with RCJ89's comments.
I'm very happy to have upgraded to the z5 from the z3
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To chip in, as another user coming from the Z3 to the Z5 I wholeheartedly agree with RCJ89's comments.
I'm very happy to have upgraded to the z5 from the z3
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So you aren't having any performance issues either? How are you finding the battery life compared to Z3?
Upgraded here as well from a Z3 and it's been great so far. The battery life is probably about 15% shorter (at least for my usual routine). My battery is at 23% right now (8:25pm). I unplugged it from the charger at 6:30am. The Z3 would be at 35% at this time. Not too bad when compared to my work Samsung Note 4 that usually dies at 3:30pm.
Wow, I'm amazed by comments here... I bought Z5 2 weeks ago and I have couple inputs versus Z3 :
Minuses:
-Display is worse than in Z3, please run on both some FHD YT video i.e. "Lean On", display in Z3 is far far sharper! Please look on carpets or any other details in mentioned video. (I don't know how to increase sharpness of Z5 display, even with root). Also contrast is better in Z3 (faces in the same video). Really annoying, I'm professional photographer so I noticed this in seconds... Maybe Sony tried to "force" people to purchase Premium version, which I guess has much better sharpness and contrast, but this is dirty playing. ;/
-External speakers are worse. Z3 speakers are playing more clean.
-No magnetic socket... Im wondering what will happen with USB socket after 1y...
-Missed some functions, maybe this is Lollipop vs. Kitkat issue (I still have KK with root on Z3) i.e. "smart rotate" which I liked in Z3.
-Battery... Like it was mentioned, standard scenario with Z3 was around 3 days, with Z5 is 2 days... disappointing.
Pluses:
+ Camera, especially autofocus, this is really amazing. I'm impressed.
+ Fingerprint reader, very comroftable...
I will not compare performance, because I didn't found any perf issues on Z3 itself and on any game, so even if Z5 is more powerful I didn't noticed it. Hard decision for me, probably I will sold Z5 or wait for EOY to some update, if Sony will not increase display sharpness and contrast I will back to Z3. BTW, on both I'm using "X-reality" but in fact I checked all options, simple need to increase sharpness like we have such option in any PC display... If someone know how to do this on Xperia I will be grateful.
EDIT: I updated firmware and it seems screen is almost identical right now to Z3, contrast increased, sharpness also. Still there is noticable difference when we compare two displays (Z3 slightly sharper) however, now its really good. Annoying is adaptive light, it completly cannot set proper brightness - even if I have brightness slide to max in shadow it is too dark... Obviously in full light is ok, but it looks like brightness slider completly doesnt work... ****ty programmers.
I have used the Z3 for a year and currently using the Z5 for over a month, here are my few cents (both devices I used are completely stock, they are not rooted or BL unlocked):
Appearance
No doubt the Z5 looks stunning and much better than Z3. Z5 extremely feels much better to hold than Z3 because of the flatter sides which reminds me of the original Z. On the Z5, there is a black frame on the front which I thought it was going to be a hassle to hold but I was wrong. The phone feels great in hands. One thing I extremely dislike is that they removed the charging dock on the Z5, instead they replaced it with the flapless USB port which is cool but not convenient. I wash my Z3 often but I can quickly wipe the phone dry and charge it with the docking port. However, on the Z5, I have to wait till the USB port is dry before I can charge which is annoying because it may take up to an hour for the port to dry. I do prefer the placement of the volume rocker on the Z3, its not much of a big deal on the Z5 though but may take some time to get used to.
Finger print reader/power button
I don’t use the power button often like little to none on both devices. The finger print reader is somewhat a hit or miss depending if my finger is wet or dry. Dry of course is much easier, but when my finger is sweaty it may not work after 5 tries. It’s a bonus to have the finger print reader but I am not extremely “wow” by it on the Z5. Its fast though just not as accurate as I hope it would, haven’t tried wet fingers on the iPhone 6S or Samsung S6 though so cant complain here. Sony also went with a flatter power button/finger print reader which sometimes i find myself not scanning my finger on the right place. The sides are flat and the reader is also flat, so if you're not looking you might miss it. Not a big deal though as the power button is slightly dented in.
Battery Performance
The 200 mAh difference makes a huge battery performance difference. I used to get 1~1.5 days on my Z3 whereas on the Z5 I have found myself repeatedly charging throughout the day. This depends on my usage, on light usage I may require to charge once during the half the day for a short period of time, but on heavy I might charge twice or once for a longer period of time. Keep in mind I do not charge my devices over night. I usually keep it at 100% before I unplug and go to sleep. I have purchased Quick Chargers 2.0 for home and car usage, so I can easily get throughout the day without a sweat. And NO quick charge 2.0 does not work on Z3. I think it only works on Japanese Version of Z3. If you do not own a quick charger and then getting throughout one day would be a problem on the Z5. And believe me, Quick charge 2.0 makes a difference, I hated how I had to wait to charge on the Z3 because it will take forever. Rumours say Android 6.0 will make the battery performance much better on the Z5, who knows….
CPU Heat
The rumours regarding the S810 chip is true. I do find the Z5 heating up faster than my Z3 under heavy and light usage. Now, Sony may have added two heat pipes into the Z5 so the back isn’t as “hot” as some people have described. To me, it is “warm” sitting around 42 degrees Celsius (max). Keep in mind that I live in Vancouver, the weather here is much cooler at the moment. Don’t know about summer, will have to wait till next year.
Display
The screens on both devices aren’t superior but decent for the human eyes. The Z3 has a cooler colour (blue-ish tone), whereas the Z5 is much warmer (reddish tone). But it doesn’t matter as much as you can adjust the screen colour in the settings. Both devices aren’t as bright under the sun. I haven’t encounter a device that is bright enough lol. Aside from the colours both screens pretty much looks identical.
Performance
Both devices perform extremely well under almost any circumstances. It is buttery smooth throughout the whole OS. I had fully encrypted both devices, including the SD card. The difference is the 4 (32 bit) vs 8 cores (64 bit). I find the Z3 load up apps a bit faster than the Z5 due to the higher clock speeds. But the Z5 performs better on multitasking when switching between apps due to the cores. The only issue I have is the “clear all button” on the Z5 recent task menu, it lags there even on the newest update. Not a big issue but I hope they fix it.
Camera
I am not a professional photographer so I cannot comment much on this. But base on my average use as an average consumer, I do find the Z5 produce slightly better images than the Z3. I currently have a defected camera on the Z5 so I am not going to go into details.
Audio
The audio quality on the Z3 is better than the Z5. I say this because I use the speakers a lot. On both devices I find the top speaker to be slightly louder than the bottom. The Z3 produce a much deeper and clearer sound (more bass?) in compared to Z5. In terms of loudness, they are roughly the same.
Overall, there are pros and cons on both devices and it really depends if you want to the new look and finger print scanner on the Z5. Or whether you have the money to burn. The Z5 is definitely not a “wow” when jumping from a Z3 or Z4/Z3+. I do not regret getting the Z5 because i extremely fell in love with its appearance.
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It's time for me to upgrade my Verizon line. In have narrowed down my choices to 3 phones. Here is the list of phones and price.
LG G3 $50
Sony Xperia Z3V $100
Galaxy Note 4 $200
Please let me know if you have owned any of these phones and what you think of them! Thank you.
Anyone have feedback on these phones from their personal experience?
Got the Xperia...awesome phone so far if anyone was wondering!
Should've went with the Note or G3. I have the Xperia Z3v at the moment and I got bored of it quick.
No root will be available anytime soon, even with that, good luck ever unlocking the boot loader. Battery life isn't as good as advertised and its basically an Xperia Z2, just re-named.
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I have the Xperia Z3v at the moment and I got bored of it quick.
....Battery life isn't as good as advertised and its basically an Xperia Z2, just re-named.
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Actually, IMHO the Z3v is more like a Z3 trapped in a Z2 case. It has the same processor, RAM, and GPU as the Z3. The camera is basically the same except the Z3 has a slight bump in extremely high ISO capability. The screen is slightly brighter on the Z3 but the Z3v is not dim...I cant even use it over 50% without burning out my eyes. The Z3v also has dual stereo speakers and Qi charging. Basically you can't lose with either device so it doesn't matter what you call it... It all comes down design aesthetics and I happen to like the Z3v. I can't switch to a different carrier so the Z3 isn't even an option for me. lol
As far as battery life, since I've had it when it launched in October, I've never gotten less than 7 hours actual screen on time, easily averaging over 8. The most I got was 11 hours screen time. I charge mine nightly but a couple times I tested the longevity....got 48 hours 19 minutes uptime with 6 hours 50 minutes screen time. Another time I got 42 hours uptime and 7 hours 15 minutes of screen time.
The Z3v has far exceeded my expectation in the battery department... I have never once used any of the stamina modes.
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i have a question! you think it is a good move from the G3 galaxy s6? pros and cons of change ?
Thx for help me!
Have a nice day! :good:
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i have a question! you think it is a good move from the G3 galaxy s6? pros and cons of change ?
Thx for help me!
Have a nice day! :good:
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I had a G3 before this. It was a little bit big for my taste but I definitely did appreciate the high screen to body ratio. The S6 does feel much better in the hand than the G3 did for me, mainly due to its smaller size, though I preferred the curved back on the G3 more.
The screen on the S6 blows the G3's screen away. While both are 2k screen, I enjoy looking at the S6 screen much more. I also haven't noticed much difference in switching from a 5.5" screen to a 5.1" screen. In fact, I haven't missed it at all.
I thought I would miss Knock On, but I've found using the fingerprint scanner is actually easier than knock on, PLUS I have security. Previously, I didn't have any security on my phone because I couldn't be bothered to type in a password and Knock Code to me isn't secure. Anyone can see the pattern you've set. So another plus for the S6!
Battery life has been pretty close to what I was getting on the G3 even though the battery is a lot smaller. The optimisations Samsung have done on this phone have been executed well. I can go more than 36 hours on this phone with 4.5hr SoT, which was pretty much what I was getting with the G3 as well. Because the S6 supports quick charging and comes with a quick charger out of the box, charging the S6 is much easier and faster. While the G3 took me about 2.5 hours to charge to full, the S6 takes me less than 1.5 hours.
The speaker on the G3 was louder, but the S6 speaker sounds a lot better. There's much more bass and it doesn't sound nearly as tinny. No qualms with the placement of the speaker either. Being on the bottom is no issue for me.
The camera on the S6 is loads better than the G3. If this is important to you, then you should upgrade on this alone. I've found I have enjoyed the pictures coming from the S6 much more than the G3.
Although the G3 has a removable battery and microSD card support, I never once used these features so the S6 not having them meant nothing to me.
The only con with the S6 is customisation can be limited. Xposed doesn't work and I do miss my Xposed modules. That's pretty much the only con to this phone for me.
S6 vs G3:
Camera - S6
Screen - S6
Battery Life - S6 (While the battery life is equal to me, the S6 wins because of quick charging and lasting the same on a smaller battery)
Speaker - S6
Phone Build - S6
Customisation - G3
Hope that helps. If you have any questions, let me know.
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I had a G3 before this. It was a little bit big for my taste but I definitely did appreciate the high screen to body ratio. The S6 does feel much better in the hand than the G3 did for me, mainly due to its smaller size, though I preferred the curved back on the G3 more.
The screen on the S6 blows the G3's screen away. While both are 2k screen, I enjoy looking at the S6 screen much more. I also haven't noticed much difference in switching from a 5.5" screen to a 5.1" screen. In fact, I haven't missed it at all.
I thought I would miss Knock On, but I've found using the fingerprint scanner is actually easier than knock on, PLUS I have security. Previously, I didn't have any security on my phone because I couldn't be bothered to type in a password and Knock Code to me isn't secure. Anyone can see the pattern you've set. So another plus for the S6!
Battery life has been pretty close to what I was getting on the G3 even though the battery is a lot smaller. The optimisations Samsung have done on this phone have been executed well. I can go more than 36 hours on this phone with 4.5hr SoT, which was pretty much what I was getting with the G3 as well. Because the S6 supports quick charging and comes with a quick charger out of the box, charging the S6 is much easier and faster. While the G3 took me about 2.5 hours to charge to full, the S6 takes me less than 1.5 hours.
The speaker on the G3 was louder, but the S6 speaker sounds a lot better. There's much more bass and it doesn't sound nearly as tinny. No qualms with the placement of the speaker either. Being on the bottom is no issue for me.
The camera on the S6 is loads better than the G3. If this is important to you, then you should upgrade on this alone. I've found I have enjoyed the pictures coming from the S6 much more than the G3.
Although the G3 has a removable battery and microSD card support, I never once used these features so the S6 not having them meant nothing to me.
The only con with the S6 is customisation can be limited. Xposed doesn't work and I do miss my Xposed modules. That's pretty much the only con to this phone for me.
S6 vs G3:
Camera - S6
Screen - S6
Battery Life - S6 (While the battery life is equal to me, the S6 wins because of quick charging and lasting the same on a smaller battery)
Speaker - S6
Phone Build - S6
Customisation - G3
Hope that helps. If you have any questions, let me know.
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wow awesome!!! focus as you seem? you miss the laser?
The s6 is a much better phone as a everyday user imho. the only thing i wish it had better was two speaker on the bottom that was louder. other than that the screen and speed is killer fast. it also doesn't heat up as badly.
pros about s6 is that its smaller and also gives wireless charging/turbo charging. better processor and camera are about the same.
cons would be for me speaker not too loud and screen size is a lot smaller
Never use G3 but if you want a smaller phone with one-hand operation ability, this is the one. The S6 camera level is identical to G4, though the hardware on camera on G4 looks little better but the lens got somewhat distortion at corner while S6 doesn't has this problem, so I'll say overall still S6 a bit better in reality becoz it used a better lens.
AMOLED vs. IPS they both got pros and cons so it's hard to tell. But I always prefer AMOLED on cell phone and IPS only on PC monitor because being able to display true black is more important than just displaying better color on a phone.
S6 Exynos way better, more faster and not so hot as S808, plus Exynos audio quality is better than Qualcomm CPU.
However, if you need microSD and switchable battery then it's still only to go G4.
No, Wait for the Moto X and/or Nexus in October/November. In its current state this phone is worse in every aspect other than screen and camera. It may have the specs (soc-wise) but between the memory management issue and inconsistent battery-life and the fact that reports that the memory management fix is not included in the 5.1.1 update I'd pass.
How much I want a Nexus with this screen and the LG G4 camera/ Samsung Galaxy S6 video recording (LG G4 video recording is awful including audio).
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wow awesome!!! focus as you seem? you miss the laser?
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I don't miss it at all. The S6 camera is better in just about all aspects.
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I don't miss it at all. The S6 camera is better in just about all aspects.
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wow! ur battery life its the same for every day? im scared for the battery
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wow! ur battery life its the same for every day? im scared for the battery
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Only two main problem of draining battery in my experiences. First one is Wifi, it will keep scanning at the background, so if you use wifi it will use a bit more battery than expected, it is a software bug. Second problem is the Google services on S6 rom drained many battery, if you disable the Location you will save many battery.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-7-5-73-1976294-440-android-apk-download/
And update to this ver of Google services will save a lot of battery as well.
I don't meet any battery problem indeed, even slightly better than my Sony Z1 Compact. However, when I was first purchased S6, the first week is real draining quick bcoz new battery will need 1~2 weeks to optimize it, after that it's done. The most bugging me is poor memory managment(if you root it, you can apply a fix on XDA by yourself) and the camera color and exposure value still not optimized though the details and focus is real good.
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Only two main problem of draining battery in my experiences. First one is Wifi, it will keep scanning at the background, so if you use wifi it will use a bit more battery than expected, it is a software bug. Second problem is the Google services on S6 rom drained many battery, if you disable the Location you will save many battery.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-7-5-73-1976294-440-android-apk-download/
And update to this ver of Google services will save a lot of battery as well.
I don't meet any battery problem indeed, even slightly better than my Sony Z1 Compact. However, when I was first purchased S6, the first week is real draining quick bcoz new battery will need 1~2 weeks to optimize it, after that it's done. The most bugging me is poor memory managment(if you root it, you can apply a fix on XDA by yourself) and the camera color and exposure value still not optimized though the details and focus is real good.
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Wow thx dude for explain... Its good install this play service now or wait of i have battery drain?
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Wow thx dude for explain... Its good install this play service now or wait of i have battery drain?
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Install it immediately, that ver is already the best battery friendly one in my experiences.
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Install it immediately, that ver is already the best battery friendly one in my experiences.
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Thx mate! Do you like this phone? How many hours the phone la active whitout charge?
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Thx mate! Do you like this phone? How many hours the phone la active whitout charge?
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It seems idle used a bit more battery than Qualcomm platform overnight. Since I'm only a medium to light usage of user(only check instant messages, Internet, little music/videos and very little games) so my SOT is always superb 7~8hrs(I also turned power saving on and turn the brightness as low as possible).
If you are heavy user(like crazy 3D gaming), I think on Earth all phone will just get the same bad SOT like 3~4hrs including IP6+, G4.
I like this phone but I mainly go for the camera part because you know I'm not a heavy user and any medium range phone is enough, so the only motivation to me to get S6 is camera. Well, the focus/speed/OIS blows out my Sony Z1c but Sony is still better on color/exposure but I think it is just a software issue and will fix later.
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It seems idle used a bit more battery than Qualcomm platform overnight. Since I'm only a medium to light usage of user(only check instant messages, Internet, little music/videos and very little games) so my SOT is always superb 7~8hrs(I also turned power saving on and turn the brightness as low as possible).
If you are heavy user(like crazy 3D gaming), I think on Earth all phone will just get the same bad SOT like 3~4hrs including IP6+, G4.
I like this phone but I mainly go for the camera part because you know I'm not a heavy user and any medium range phone is enough, so the only motivation to me to get S6 is camera. Well, the focus/speed/OIS blows out my Sony Z1c but Sony is still better on color/exposure but I think it is just a software issue and will fix later.
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Whit "SOT" u mean the screen time active right?
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Whit "SOT" u mean the screen time active right?
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Screen On Time
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Screen On Time
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Awsome!
I'm really struggling choosing a new phone. Have a dying G2 which was an excellent phone especially when it came to battery life. I've been searching for a more up to date alternative and this phone comes up when it comes to battery life. I was going through the forum though and I've been seeing lots of people with huge battery drains and 2 to 3 hours of SOT. That's what I get with my G2 that has a battery that has seen too many charging cycles. Now, I know that someone without a problem won't be posting how great the battery is so I'm not sure how prevalent this issue might be.
So, how is battery life on this phone without having to mess around with it? Prices have gone down but it is still a bit of money, I would rather get something that just worked for the next 3 years (like the LG did). I've looked into more recent and expensive options with the SD820 or the Kirin 955, suposedly a lot more power efficient SoCs but I don't see the numbers reflecting this. The Z5 comes pretty close if not even better than an S7, P9, OP3, etc.
I've also had this idea that, regardless of the generation, the SD810 was pretty bad on battery life and heating issues leading to a quicker dying phone so now I'm confused.
Opinions and suggestions would be most helpful! :highfive:
I have a Z2 and a Z5 now my Z2 easily runs 6hrs SOT every single day and also seems faster than my z5 (except in Games or poorly optmised apps)
Now my z5 on the other hand only manages 4hrs SOT but with some minor tweaking the ui can become very fluid yet to find a solution to bad battery
My suggestions:
Nexus 6P
Xperia Z3
Lg G4
Xperia z5 (if you are fine with 4hrs SOT)
Also note that z5s not so impressive battery life can be to blame of the million or two wakelocks in the current firmware so a update may fix this
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Thanks! I actually think I made a mistake in my research and was looking at Z3 numbers. Doesn't do me much good as I can't find a new 32GB version of the thing for sale here in Europe. Used, sure, but I would be risking having the same issues pretty soon.
You recommended the G4? I've asked about that phone here on G4 forum also and a lot of people report some pretty bad battery times. It's a shame as it would be the perfect choice for me if it wasn't for that. If I wasn't so suspicious of its battery performance I wouldn't even consider any other phone. A lot of people reported times I never had on the G2 though, that's why this is so confusing.
6P is just huuuuge for me!
Kutusov said:
I'm really struggling choosing a new phone. Have a dying G2 which was an excellent phone especially when it came to battery life. I've been searching for a more up to date alternative and this phone comes up when it comes to battery life. I was going through the forum though and I've been seeing lots of people with huge battery drains and 2 to 3 hours of SOT. That's what I get with my G2 that has a battery that has seen too many charging cycles. Now, I know that someone without a problem won't be posting how great the battery is so I'm not sure how prevalent this issue might be.
So, how is battery life on this phone without having to mess around with it? Prices have gone down but it is still a bit of money, I would rather get something that just worked for the next 3 years (like the LG did). I've looked into more recent and expensive options with the SD820 or the Kirin 955, suposedly a lot more power efficient SoCs but I don't see the numbers reflecting this. The Z5 comes pretty close if not even better than an S7, P9, OP3, etc.
I've also had this idea that, regardless of the generation, the SD810 was pretty bad on battery life and heating issues leading to a quicker dying phone so now I'm confused.
Opinions and suggestions would be most helpful! :highfive:
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I have Z2 and Z5 both of them.Z2 has a stronger battery,but one in Z5 is also great especially after this 253 update.
With Z2 I get almosut 8 hours and with Z5 now i will get easily 6 hours SoT.
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Allek84 said:
I have Z2 and Z5 both of them.Z2 has a stronger battery,but one in Z5 is also great especially after this 253 update.
With Z2 I get almosut 8 hours and with Z5 now i will get easily 6 hours SoT.
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Thanks!! :good:
Every body talks about the 2015 Flagship from sony that it's disaster specially after the 6.0.1 update
ok let's see
i'm a light use kinda
Web browsing 4 to 8 hours a day taking some shot here and there no movie watch neither gaming
is the battery good enough to stand the whole day without any problem and if forget to charge it does that make any problem to me ?
and is there an option for " soft charging " like Xperia Z3 and does this option what cause the problem for the battery ? to half it time from 5.1.1 update ?
any advice would be great my brother was having xperia z3 and he managed to get +10 hours SOT what about Xperia Z5
Z5 has got some terrible battery on MM, there are so many random wakelocks on MM and the only way to deal with them would be via brute force it seems
BUT on Lp its fine, easily got 5hrs SOT on 5.1.1 and the camera isnt messed up (this is DRM related though)
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Envious_Data said:
Z5 has got some terrible battery on MM, there are so many random wakelocks on MM and the only way to deal with them would be via brute force it seems
BUT on Lp its fine, easily got 5hrs SOT on 5.1.1 and the camera isnt messed up (this is DRM related though)
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so the xperia z3 still better than this
ok should i go for Hauwai Nova Plus with +10 hours on screen time and +8 hours of HD video streaming or Z5 or Z3 or go for the x's series ? like Xperia X ?
hejawi said:
so the xperia z3 still better than this
ok should i go for Hauwai Nova Plus with +10 hours on screen time and +8 hours of HD video streaming or Z5 or Z3 or go for the x's series ? like Xperia X ?
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depends on what you want
z3 is about to be dropped for support so if you dont care about updates its a good phone
Im not too familiar with hauwai but im the Xperia Z5 is my last xperia because of all the issues that have shown up with z5, great hardware just meh software yet lolipop is fine
Envious_Data said:
depends on what you want
z3 is about to be dropped for support so if you dont care about updates its a good phone
Im not too familiar with hauwai but im the Xperia Z5 is my last xperia because of all the issues that have shown up with z5, great hardware just meh software yet lolipop is fine
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thanks my friend
ok i want a phone the can serve me for the longest time
i'm mining engineer and most of my time in my day 2 shifts 15 hours in the field
hejawi said:
thanks my friend
ok i want a phone the can serve me for the longest time
i'm mining engineer and most of my time in my day 2 shifts 15 hours in the field
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my Z2 although my z2 is damaged its just amazing battery life (im talking consistent 8hr SOTs but there is no sim in my z2, i do have a LOAD of apps install to my z2, its just full of random crap)
and the last firmware released for the xperia Z2 is just amazing, so perhaps z2/z3 may be good but if there is a phone that can do you better then go for that,
unless sony fix the battery drain with Z5 (6.0.1 MM) then this phones battery will stay rather crap
note: Z2 and Z3 are very similar devices and I personally think z3 is just a tad nicer.
Envious_Data said:
my Z2 although my z2 is damaged its just amazing battery life (im talking consistent 8hr SOTs but there is no sim in my z2, i do have a LOAD of apps install to my z2, its just full of random crap)
and the last firmware released for the xperia Z2 is just amazing, so perhaps z2/z3 may be good but if there is a phone that can do you better then go for that,
unless sony fix the battery drain with Z5 (6.0.1 MM) then this phones battery will stay rather crap
note: Z2 and Z3 are very similar devices and I personally think z3 is just a tad nicer.
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Thanks alot
Envious_Data said:
my Z2 although my z2 is damaged its just amazing battery life (im talking consistent 8hr SOTs but there is no sim in my z2, i do have a LOAD of apps install to my z2, its just full of random crap)
and the last firmware released for the xperia Z2 is just amazing, so perhaps z2/z3 may be good but if there is a phone that can do you better then go for that,
unless sony fix the battery drain with Z5 (6.0.1 MM) then this phones battery will stay rather crap
note: Z2 and Z3 are very similar devices and I personally think z3 is just a tad nicer.
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is there a way to get back to 5.1.1 for z5 i heard that it's battery got +8 hours SOT before 6.0.1 ?
I still think the Z5 problem is the processor that consumes a lot of battery power. Although they are saying that the XZ does 4 hours SoT!
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
I still think the Z5 problem is the processor that consumes a lot of battery power. Although they are saying that the XZ does 4 hours SoT!
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i saw a lot of reviews for the z5 before 6.0.1 update
and it was 9 hours SOT and so
but after the update alot complain about the battery life
i thought it would be " soft charging " what cause the problem like the z3 but i didn't use the z5 yet to tell
so can anyone check this out ? maybe it's the problem ?
hejawi said:
i saw a lot of reviews for the z5 before 6.0.1 update
and it was 9 hours SOT and so
but after the update alot complain about the battery life
i thought it would be " soft charging " what cause the problem like the z3 but i didn't use the z5 yet to tell
so can anyone check this out ? maybe it's the problem ?
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On MM there seems to be a load of system wakelocks and services that just dont sleep and ive tried fixing this but it didnt go so well
(i semi-had a solution that would make the camera unusable due to lag but this doesnt work for me since i often use my camera)
On LP there was no need at all to even bother with such since the battery was good
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Battery time should not be phone picking point (unless it is disturbingly low).
No matter a phones energy management is good, the manufacturers will put just enough battery to let you end the day.
So, the best solution is to determine the expectations from a phone, than pick the best match, and then buy a powerbank if necessary.
P.s. I used to have Xperia Z2, my sister has Z3 and neither of us seen such SoT times. 7 hours at best.
_delice_doluca_ said:
Battery time should not be phone picking point (unless it is disturbingly low).
No matter a phones energy management is good, the manufacturers will put just enough battery to let you end the day.
So, the best solution is to determine the expectations from a phone, than pick the best match, and then buy a powerbank if necessary.
P.s. I used to have Xperia Z2, my sister has Z3 and neither of us seen such SoT times. 7 hours at best.
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so it's all about the user
if i use it hard the battery wont stand alot
and if i use it a moderate use it will stand the whole day
hejawi said:
so the xperia z3 still better than this
ok should i go for Hauwai Nova Plus with +10 hours on screen time and +8 hours of HD video streaming or Z5 or Z3 or go for the x's series ? like Xperia X ?
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No bro, never buy a Huawei phone or you must be regret for your choice. I think you should buy a XZ, it's the best phone ever made by Sony, you won't regret. I am thinking of selling this Z5 to buy the XZ
sirdoha said:
No bro, never buy a Huawei phone or you must be regret for your choice. I think you should buy a XZ, it's the best phone ever made by Sony, you won't regret. I am thinking of selling this Z5 to buy the XZ
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Xperia X sucks no development here at all, i had it also the X but damn Z5 is waaaay better so lucky i have a new Z5 and its the mothership of all Z series and its also a flagship ^^
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Pandemic said:
Xperia X sucks no development here at all, i had it also the X but damn Z5 is waaaay better so lucky i have a new Z5 and its the mothership of all Z series and its also a flagship ^^
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so you are saying that xperia z5 is a very good phone and have a good battery ?
sirdoha said:
No bro, never buy a Huawei phone or you must be regret for your choice. I think you should buy a XZ, it's the best phone ever made by Sony, you won't regret. I am thinking of selling this Z5 to buy the XZ
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bro it's all about money after all
XZ = 450 JD
Z5 = 270 JD
XZ it's to pricey for me i can't offered it
Are they? 6T to me is a mistake, on-screen fingerprint, that's slower, less responsive to get rid of the headphone?
zymphad said:
Are they? 6T to me is a mistake, on-screen fingerprint, that's slower, less responsive to get rid of the headphone?
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6T is not a mistake. The on-screen fingerprint might be slightly slower than hardware sensor but it's not significant enough to make a real world difference. This leads to a significant increase in usable screen real estate. The battery is also much bigger than 6 and the notch is a aesthetic upgrade despite it still being a notch. You also have to realize that this is a T series, not a number series, it's not supposed to be a big difference from the previous model, yet the 6T is a decent upgrade imo.
I think is worse....no jack.
Mord0rr said:
I think is worse....no jack.
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Agreed, no positive changes. It's the exact same hardware, same camera, same screen, same glass. The differences are negative, the screen fingerprint is slower and placed in a awkward place, back of the phone is more convenient and tactile feel of the hardware, can do blind. No headphone jack so you can have an inferior oddly placed fingerprint reader? That's just dumb.
Anyway, are they making the OnePlus 6 still? Been checking every day, nothing in stock.
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Been checking every day, nothing in stock.
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Interesting. That's actually a good news for us, op6 owners, if someone decides to upgrade for something else the price for op6 will stay high up on Swappa. Just saying, I like my op6 8/256GB, it's a great phone but sometimes I'd get the 'butterflies' looking at the new devices 'n stuff they offer. Well, it's a crazy circle of infinity...
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Anyway, are they making the OnePlus 6 still? Been checking every day, nothing in stock.
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I prefer the OP6 myself and yes they are still in supply. Just ordered one for myself but have to wait up to 14 days but worth the wait for £399
The 6t has no headphone jack, slower fingerprint, and no led notification. The lack of LED is the biggest problem for me.
The battery is only 12% different, so I went with the 6
TL;DR:
I went with the OP6 over the junk known as the 6t. Have you seen the display issue the 6t users are having?
Edit: The OP6 is on sale for "cyber" week flash sale.
https://wccftech.com/few-hours-oneplus-6-399/
Long version:
I came from the LG v20 and before that the v10.. In terms of the hardware the v30 and v40 didn't have a removable battery and lower system ram, and No LED... I really missed the LED on my phone and using the zerolemon extended battery on my phone I had to rely on third party software to tell me if the phone stopped pulling power from the USB port. Now no phone has removable batteries.. BUT companies are battery cases for phones, so we will see how the internal battery can go before I have to replace it. The irony is that the 6t is a downgrade from the 6.... Finger prints are easy to pull from glass so no I don't want an in display finger print reader... Besides I came from the v20/V10 I liked the rear placement of the sensor. The missing headphone jack on the 6t... NO I don't want to carry a useless dongle that doesn't even split to allow charging via usb. I settled on the OP6 I couldn't be happier with my choice.. Ideally i want my cell phone around 5.5" with the thickness of a deck of cards with the battery capacity to match. I figure smart phones could have 150,000 MAH battery at that size. The battery saver function on the OP6 is impressive it allows me to access most apps with barely any issues, there's a delay with gmail, but a manual refresh solves that.
LBJM said:
TL;DR:
I went with the OP6 over the junk known as the 6t. Have you seen the display issue the 6t users are having?
Edit: The OP6 is on sale for "cyber" week flash sale.
https://wccftech.com/few-hours-oneplus-6-399/
I figure smart phones could have 150,000 MAH
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Really? 150,000mAh that's 150Ah, my car has 65Ah battery. You would probably need 2-3 days to charge it up with USB powered wireless pad.
mzsquared said:
Really? 150,000mAh that's 150Ah, my car has 65Ah battery. You would probably need 2-3 days to charge it up with USB powered wireless pad.
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I did my mental math wrong... NO surprise there... I meant 15000mAh... My note 3 has a 10000mAh zerolemon battery and that takes 8 hours to fully charge via usb... Wireless chargers (WC) are too slow at charging and with USB C port on phones WC is NOT really needed in my book. Plus the more times you charge a battery the faster it wears out. I want a minimum of seven days of battery life under heavy usage.. The whole point of a cell phone is to be mobile.
Seems no more are being made. I just went from S7 g930F to the 6 8gb version. So far I'm impressed. I could not go with T for same reasons outlined. No 3.5 nor led kills it. Was going to go for pixel 3 but the savings with the 6 were compelling.
Anyway, the 6 is a pretty great phone!
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