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If the N5 doesn't live up to your expectations which phone would you prefer instead even if cost were not a factor?
Is there another carrier flagship phone that you are satisfied would be flexible enough for you to be able to do all of the following?
root, rom;
restore to stock rom if necessary;
return to store after restoring stock rom;
upgrade via carrier upgrade plan after restoring stock rom?
make a potential carrier warranty claim after restoring stock rom?
If the Nexus 5 doesn't list up to my expectations, I will go back to my Galaxy Nexus. It may not be the most state of the art device but with CM ROM's and faux123's kernels, I can't go wrong with it.
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If the Nexus 5 doesn't list up to my expectations, I will go back to my Galaxy Nexus. It may not be the most state of the art device but with CM ROM's and faux123's kernels, I can't go wrong with it.
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That's actually the phone I own also but I've got it pretty heavily loaded over the last 2 years. I really think I need at least another gig of ram to run well and a faster processor wouldn't hurt. The non-removable 2300 battery on the N5 is just a real disappointment. I've only owned nexus devices so far and I'm a bit concerned that a carrier flagship may not be flexible enough.
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That's actually the phone I own also but I've got it pretty heavily loaded over the last 2 years. I really think I need at least another gig of ram to run well and a faster processor wouldn't hurt. The non-removable 2300 battery on the N5 is just a real disappointment. I've only owned nexus devices so far and I'm a bit concerned that a carrier flagship may not be flexible enough.
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A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.
To be honest, nothing beats the Nexus experience to me, and I can't even think of other choices with what I have experienced. When I think of a Nexus Phone I don't really give a huge deal for the hardware internals, because it's not really meant to be a show off with the latest hardware and the largest battery. Samsung soon will hit a 1000 cpu cores into their Exynos bully maybe, and yet their Touchwiz phone LAG and stutter. A properly minimally optimized OS over a good deal of hardware is what Google brings, not to forget the minimal design of the phone, and oh for a damn good price - I wouldn't ask for more.
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A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.
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I played with the LG G2 for over an hour, and decided it was too Samsung 'cheapie' plastic to suit me. The HTC One Max would be my next phone, despite an S600 chipset, based on durability and useability, and those speakers would come in quite handy at times.
prob moto x
If the Nexus is a no-go on Verizon I'll likely wait until the Moto Maker site goes live for VZW and at least get 32 gigs of internal storage. Feels really good in the hand and super smooth
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No choice but to keep it if i go n5.. i currently own a note3 and waiting to return for a n5... if i dont like it.. then too bad for me
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A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery.
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+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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That it does. That's why I have been looking forward to it. The camera sticking out a bit also bugs me about the phone also. These two things are bugging me very much. With the time I get out of my Galaxy Nuxus battery on normal use, it might be fine for me for normal daily use. If I need to go out of town though, camping, or some where I just can't get to a charger, I'll have to hold on to my Galaxy Nexus to make sure I've got something I can stretch out for a couple of days.
The wireless recharging for the Nexus 5 is something that really caught my attention as a good thing. Being able to just sit my phone down on my desk when I get in and have it charge is awesome! The screen also looks very nice for slightly under 5 inches. Hopefully the announcement and launch kicks off today.
Who buys carrier branded crap phones with their ugly logos ... Nothing can beat a Nexus in Android world.
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Who buys carrier branded crap phones with their ugly logos ... Nothing can beat a Nexus in Android world.
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Amen brother! Been on the nexus line since the nexus one. Hell sometimes I still miss the trackball. Lol
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A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.
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yeah me too about the battery thing. I like to have a removable batt so I can buy an extra and swap it if my other one drains. But I think powerbanks are also helpful for non-removable batteries as well. #confusing hahaha
The Nexus has always been a developer only phone. But as it is for the camera that megapixels don't matter, so it is for the battery that the mAh won't matter. We have previously seen that the phones with an extra large capacity battery yet not perform as per the expectations. Atleast Google doesn't stuff their phones with bloatware like Samsung. A Nexus always comes with a minimal OS coupled with a balanced hardware at an unrivalled price. A non-removable battery & no expandable memory have always been the let downs, yet 32GB is enough for me for storage & a battery lasting just over a day is well enough for me. Nexus ftw !
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+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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I'm currently on an OG Note, recently bought a new battery and I have little problems with it. I'm mainly bored with it now and the USB port has some problems (€10 to fix). Minor issues and I'm sure I could use the phone for another year without ever really being bothered by it. I don't play games, so I don't really need all that raw power the new devices have. I have been looking for a new device for some time, just to have a new gadget and all.
I work for HTC indirectly so I have a One lying around here that I can use, but I can't root it so I have no use for it. I can't get used to the new Sense and their strange softkey layout (though that's more the fault of developers that don't keep to the design guidelines of Android, than it is HTC's).
I also had the S4, which I liked overall, but I found it too expensive, it had useless functions which I didn't want to pay for. Especially since you lose a lot of them when you put a stock rom on it. It has an AMOLED screen which, after two years of the Note, I'm not very happy about (uniform colours are a pain, and it degrades too fast). And it looks just like any other Samsung device (and I'm bored now). - I did get hooked on the infrared functionality though. I miss that every day.
Then the Z1 came along, looked refreshing and the waterproof stuff is a giant pro. Useless camera, but the rest was pretty good. Unfortunately the screen dissapoints.
So now I'm waiting for the Nexus 5. Absolutely no useless functions. Just a good and powerfull device that can last for another two years. No screwing around with roms and stuff and a good price.
If it dissapoints, I might go for an S4 as they're now in the pricerange of the Nexus 5 or I'll stick to the Note for another year, to see if something better comes up.
If not the Nexus 5, I'd go for the Oppo N1.
With out of the box CyanogenMod, IPS 5.9 inch display, and top-notch camera optics and dual user-controllable flash.
I have (had) the S4 and sold it today. I was extremely dissapointed with it in just about every way, and with the addition of Knox locked bootloaders being sneaked in by Samdung, that iced the "sell it now" cake for me.
I'm actually back to using the SIII in the meantime, and even with piss-poor driver support, it runs CM very well.
my choise is between Nexus 4 or Nexus 5
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LG G2 Google Play edition.
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Actually, as far as the hardware goes, I am quite impressed with g2. That display seems so much larger than other phones of the same physical dimensions. Battery, processor, storage, etc. no limitations except no wireless charging. (except verizon version)
A play edition would be very tempting. Unfortunately it doesn't seem likely with the N5 being a somewhat close cousin. If the N5 had the exact same g2 hardware it would be a no-brainer for me even at a much higher cost.
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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If you like the Nexus 5 32GB White, it's shipping pretty quickly (within a couple days), although it says 2-3 weeks.
LG-G2 obviously
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elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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In my humble opinion, the only other phone to even consider right now besides the Nexus 5 is the Moto X. I have both phones, and still prefer the Moto X over the N5 for a variety of reasons. It really is the ultimate smartphone to me. The N5 is great and has its own merits, don't get me wrong, but the Moto X is the complete package. Motorola absolutely nailed it with that thing. I've also owned the HTC One and GS4, and neither can touch the X.
elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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I'd say the s4 and HTC one are as good or better than the n5. With that said I have an n5 in the mail. I didn't get the s4 or one mainly because the bootloaders are locked and you can't do much with them with out a lot of mickey mouse. If you're into messing with your phone and having fun with it the n5 is hands down the winner. I looked at the s4 for a long time and with all the crap Samsung and the carriers were doing with it I wouldn't get it for the world.
elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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Well, we're in a Nexus 5 forum and bias is to be expected. However, I've had a Gnex, Nexus S, and am currently rocking a Galaxy Note 2. A Nexus 5 is due to arrive today for me. I've somewhat been at a cross for the last couple of days. I am pretty sure it's because I keep reading about the defects, faults, and comparisons of the N5 to others.
But, because of this, I am wondering if I've made the right choice. There are two other choices that cannot leave my head and that's the LG G2 and the Moto X. The two are completely different phones and it's almost like the Nexus 5 is the perfect balance between the two. Perfect isn't what I'm looking for, more like an even balance of the two.
On one side, the G2, you have an exceptional device with many internals similar to the Nexus 5 but with specs such as higher batter capacity, higher megapixel camera, IR blaster, larger size screen, etc. However, with the G2 comes the four different variants for US carriers, LG's skin, and minimal developer support. I don't even know if it'll be updated for long. It's what drove me nuts about my Note 2 although I loved its hardware. My problem with the G2 is the unknown support lifetime and small developer community. I consider it due to its superior (especially battery) hardware aspects of it.
Then, you have the Moto X. I can't say there's much of a difference in terms of software development due to locked bootloaders, but the stock software is amazing. No one has any complaints of it. It's either you love it and can't live without it or you simply have no use for the feautures. It's not a bad phone at all. It has lower end specs, but performs CLOSE, but not as fast as a Nexus 5. It has been confirmed to be updating to KitKat. The problem with the Moto X is a much smaller, yet friendly, developer community. There also seems to be a huge lack of accessories for the two devices and that's a bit of a big deal.
It seemed like the Nexus would acquire some features of the Moto X like touchless controls and an extermely efficient battery. But, that wasn't the case. We know because it's a Nexus device that it's going to get support from its userbase for quite some times and that means a lot for me. But it seems like there is just so much wrong with the phone hardware wise that I'm stuck. I don't want a crap battery (coming from Note 2 of course) and a lower-output speaker but I'd really appreciate constant developer support and guaranteed updates.
TL;DR There is no perfect device at the moment. Each device will require you to sacrifice something that you believe is worth sacrificing. You sacrifice accessories, developer community, update lifetime, and other small things for the Moto/G2. But, with each of those devices you gain something a Nexus can't give you with a larger battery and better battery life, smaller or bigger screen size, handy software features (touchless, knock knock, etc.).
Price isn't a factor for me either and I know you can root these devices but that comes with broken features and instability. I'd be great to have a G2 with stable 4.4 and touchless controls. That's the perfect device, IMO.
I know I rambled a bit too much and a little off topic, but I needed to kind of let this out somewhere. Heh. Seriously though, it's an amazing time for us smartphone lovers. You don't lose in either choice you make. We're just picky. Good luck!
elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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Well, you've dithered this long, what's another 2-3w?
For the longest I decided to get the Moto X. I had seen the specs for Nexus 5 and all the leaks but I was set on the X. That was until the Nexus 5 was launched and I made my decision in less than 30 minutes of launch. I'm in love with my Nexus 5 and don't regret my decision at all. Loving the bigger screen but if I could not have gotten the Nexus 5 I definitely would've gotten the Moto X. Love the form fit. Never would have considered the S4 or HTC One. I prefer as close to vanilla android as I can get and the Moto X is pretty amazing. But then again so is the Nexus 5. I would've waited for either.
elias4444 said:
I keep dithering back and forth between buying the Nexus 5 or "something else." My wife has the Nexus 4, and I'm looking to replace our outmoded land-line with a cellphone of my own now. We use T-Mobile and I'm quite the technology addict, so I'm always on the lookout for something "high end."
Google is currently saying 2-3 weeks for Nexus 5 orders, which unfortunately gives me plenty of time to consider other options. Are there any? Does the Galaxy S4 or HTC One even come close to the Nexus 5, technologically speaking? I've also read good things about the Galaxy Note 3. If you could pick something "not the Nexus 5," what would it be?
Any opinion is appreciated!
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Everyone loves the HTC One. I think the GS4 is better. Technologically speaking, the GS4 is as good as the Nexus 5. I just prefer the Nexus 5. My girlfriend prefers her GS4 to my N5. They are both great phones. Also, as someone else mentioned, the G2 is supposed to be pretty good, but I haven't given it a try. "Technologically speaking," you will not find a better device than the Note 3. It's huge, though, so you should make sure you're comfortable with it. I would rather have the Nexus 5 for my phone and a Nexus 7 as a tablet rather than a single phablet like the Note 3. Funny thing is, the N5 + the N7 is about the same price as the Note 3.
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In my humble opinion, the only other phone to even consider right now besides the Nexus 5 is the Moto X. I have both phones, and still prefer the Moto X over the N5 for a variety of reasons. It really is the ultimate smartphone to me. The N5 is great and has its own merits, don't get me wrong, but the Moto X is the complete package. Motorola absolutely nailed it with that thing. I've also owned the HTC One and GS4, and neither can touch the X.
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For the longest I decided to get the Moto X. I had seen the specs for Nexus 5 and all the leaks but I was set on the X. That was until the Nexus 5 was launched and I made my decision in less than 30 minutes of launch. I'm in love with my Nexus 5 and don't regret my decision at all. Loving the bigger screen but if I could not have gotten the Nexus 5 I definitely would've gotten the Moto X. Love the form fit. Never would have considered the S4 or HTC One. I prefer as close to vanilla android as I can get and the Moto X is pretty amazing. But then again so is the Nexus 5. I would've waited for either.
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I personally hated the Moto X. I found it poorly made and laggy. It is definitely not a future-proof device. It's behind the GS4 and HTC One, both of which predate it by 4-5 months. But if you are looking for something future proof, you should either get the Nexus 5, which is guaranteed to receive the latest software updates for at least two years, or the Note 3, which has better hardware than any other phone on the market. Or, if you can wait until April, get the GS5 when it comes out.
got-killed: you make some good points for each phone. But i have to say the things that really led me to get the Nexus 5 (aside from really wanting a new phone and having no upgrades available yet through AT&T) to upgrade from my Galaxy S3 are:
1) Developer support, as you mentioned, but also updates direct from Google, without any software really being locked down and the source always available, which also means BETTER custom ROM's.
2) The screen is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!
3) .... did i mention updates directly from Google?
But in all seriousness... yes, the Moto X has some nice features.... but i honestly can't imagine myself using them very often. Touchless operation.... I had enough trouble with Touchwiz waking my phone when i received a text message, and accidentally unlocking the phone through my pocket (which you'd be surprised just how well these screens work through a layer of cotton and denim). Kinda like the whole "Pocket Detect" feature the S3 has, where it'll automatically lock the phone if it seems like you've put the phone in your pocket. Nice... but yea... easier to just hit the button on the side of the phone and not worry about IF it locked.
Not sure what you mean by the Nexus 5 not having an energy efficient battery. The battery in the Nexus 5 is ever so slightly bigger than what's in the Moto X, and also has an ultra-low power bonus CPU core to greatly minimize battery usage while the phone is asleep. I can't say i use my phone heavily... but it's already doing much better than my GS3 ever really did. Can get 14 hours on a charge with nearly an hour of screen time, and still have upwards of 20% battery life left, depending what i was doing with the phone.... and that was only on it's second charge so far.
And yes... the speaker is a fair bit quieter than on that of something like my previous Galaxy S3.... but the side-by-side comparison between the two, it's no contest. I'd MUCH rather have the superior sound quality from the Nexus 5's speaker than what the S3 has. The sound is rather tinny on the S3. Watching a video of Sungha Jung playing his acoustic guitar is not only practically ear-splittingly high pitched on the S3, but the lower tones when he's drumming on the side of the guitar with his wrist while playing are for the most part non-existent from the speaker. The Nexus 5's speaker can output tones a fair bit deeper than the S3's speaker can, and the highs aren't as squeal-y. And i'm sure, either be it from the development community or from Google themselves, we'll probably see some sort of mod to make the volume louder from the N5's speaker.
Picking a phone is very personal choice. Go to the store and play with the models you can, go to an AT&T store to check out the Moto X.
Personally it comes down to this, if I were to buy a phone on a subsidized, or JUMP, plan it would be the Moto X. But being that I usually buy a phone and hold onto it for a couple of years, and I am buying in cash, the nexus made much more sense to me.
While the moto x is great, imho, it isn't future proof. How will it perform in a year or two, what about the developer community. Add to that, you couldn't get the 32 gb model on T-Mobile, and I went with the Nexus 5.
But, I will admit, it is much more comfortable in my hand and pocket than the Nexus 5.
I don't regret my decision at all.
Thank you everyone for your input and ideas! You're a GREAT community here!
After thinking about it some more, I actually cancelled my Nexus 5 order. Not because I don't want the phone anymore, but because I realized my real issue here is that I'm just not comfortable with brand new tech that barely hit the market. I've felt a little let-down with my 1st gen Nexus 7 getting slower and slower over time and it's made me a bit gun shy to run out and buy the "next big thing" the moment it hits the market (like I did with my tablet).
I'll spend some time researching all the suggestions posted here before I dive back in. Honestly, the MotoX never even crossed my radar, but it sounds like it has a solid following and deserves some consideration.
Thank you again! And please feel free to keep posting your ideas! I'll keep coming back and reading them.
As per sig i have 3 devices. .just got the nexus 5 today and its going back tomorrow and I will buy the G2...I should have went with it in the first place but I couldnt resist the white nexus.
Nice device just not for me..if you want a 5 inch device...s4 hands down..or if you want to go a bit bigger G2.
Note 3 is a beast of a device...nuff said there.
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elias4444 said:
Thank you everyone for your input and ideas! You're a GREAT community here!
After thinking about it some more, I actually cancelled my Nexus 5 order. Not because I don't want the phone anymore, but because I realized my real issue here is that I'm just not comfortable with brand new tech that barely hit the market. I've felt a little let-down with my 1st gen Nexus 7 getting slower and slower over time and it's made me a bit gun shy to run out and buy the "next big thing" the moment it hits the market (like I did with my tablet).
I'll spend some time researching all the suggestions posted here before I dive back in. Honestly, the MotoX never even crossed my radar, but it sounds like it has a solid following and deserves some consideration.
Thank you again! And please feel free to keep posting your ideas! I'll keep coming back and reading them.
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Just remember someone like you, I gather, will be stuck with what you get out of the box(OOB). The nexus/playstore editions have the least bloat and get OS updates the quickest... that is IF you decide to go with an Android device, but as I intimated before, you've dithered so long now, why hurry? Go look around some more until you're sure of what you want/need/are comfortable with.
Personally, I REALLY like nexuses for their non-bloatwareness, although when I bought my last phone the nexus 4 there was nothing but the n4 really, the the One and S4 hit the play store, but I decided to go with the n5 again. Maybe next time something different especially if mfgs. like ASUS step into the ring and also limit bloat plus update fairly regularly(I have shield(tegra 4) FYI which has already gotten one OS update so far, I also have the n7(2013 version snapdragon v. your tegra3 2012 version), also most of my desktop and home networking is also ASUS(motherboard(P9X79, I build my own), router(AC66U), monitor))...
Good luck, and I'll just re-iterate you've waited this long, so just don't jump into anything willynilly, but also I'd suggest not terminally procrastinating...
elias4444 said:
Thank you everyone for your input and ideas! You're a GREAT community here!
After thinking about it some more, I actually cancelled my Nexus 5 order. Not because I don't want the phone anymore, but because I realized my real issue here is that I'm just not comfortable with brand new tech that barely hit the market. I've felt a little let-down with my 1st gen Nexus 7 getting slower and slower over time and it's made me a bit gun shy to run out and buy the "next big thing" the moment it hits the market (like I did with my tablet).
I'll spend some time researching all the suggestions posted here before I dive back in. Honestly, the MotoX never even crossed my radar, but it sounds like it has a solid following and deserves some consideration.
Thank you again! And please feel free to keep posting your ideas! I'll keep coming back and reading them.
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I owned the first generation Nexus 7. Bought it the day it was released. It is the only device I've owned that really did slow down like you said. It is too early to speak for the Nexus 5, but this problem did not exist on the GNex, Nexus 4, Nexus 10, or second generation Nexus 7. I ran into the problem with AOSP based custom ROMs on my GS3, but not with stock TW or TW based custom ROMs. The first generation Nexus 7 just didn't have great hardware, and it showed after lots of use, especially on the 8gb version. I don't think you should have that fear going into the N5, but I think you're being smart holding off until you're sure. I jumped the gun with the Moto X and got just above half of what I paid when I resold the PoS.
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I bought a N5 for experiment and I will stick with my Z1. Better camera, quality, waterproofness, better screen even though z1 is bad for yellow tint N5 is worse. With the N5 you simply get what you pay for but I would pay a little more for the premium glass/aluminum finish phones like the One or my Z1
I have had the HTC One and I currently have the Note 3 and the Nexus 5 (My 3rd Nexus over the past few years). I really enjoyed the Note 3 but the size got to me. I have not had the N5 long enough to really form an opinion other than the battery life sucks compared to the Note 3. Also the N5 seems a little less polished than the One or Note. So far the best every day phone was the HTC One that opinion might change with more time with the N5. Just my .02.
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As per sig i have 3 devices. .just got the nexus 5 today and its going back tomorrow and I will buy the G2...I should have went with it in the first place but I couldnt resist the white nexus.
Nice device just not for me..if you want a 5 inch device...s4 hands down..or if you want to go a bit bigger G2.
Note 3 is a beast of a device...nuff said there.
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So wait.... you're saying if you want a 5" device, you shouldn't even consider the 4.95" Nexus 5 and instead get the 5" GS4... but if you want something a bit bigger, you should get the 5.2" LG G2? Really nitpicking over .25", aren't we?
And i'm really loving the people who insist on constantly pointing out the battery life of the Nexus 5 sucks in comparison to *insert phone here*.... especially when that phone is the Note 3. Yes, the Note 3's screen is nearly an inch larger than the Nexus 5's.... but the battery is also 39% larger. That's like somehow expecting a V6 Jeep Cherokee to perform just as well as a V8.
Don't get why everyone's saying the battery is crap, anyway. I don't think it's THAT bad... and i'm coming from a Galaxy S3.... where it seemed if you did anything more than some texting and web browsing, you would basically be lucky to make it through an 8-hour work day and still have a decent amount of battery life left. first two days with the N5, and i've gone 14 hours with similar usage as i had on my GS3, and still had 20-40% battery life remaining.
Hi,
I am currently using Galaxy Nexus phone and want to buy a device for my emails and other personal stuff on the go.
Thinking about two options --
1. Retain the Gnex and buy new Nexus 7 tab. Then use Gnex for calls only and N7 for rest. I am not sure how feasible it would be to maintain multiple device. If anyone is currently doing same then please share your experiences.
2. Replace Gnex with N5 as a final option.
Please share your thoughts.
Thanks for your time.
Being a former gnex owner, get an N5... You know you want it. If anything you will get a tab with KitKat and just wish your phone performed like it. I loved my gnex so much but it doesn't even compare to the N5. Everyone in the gnex forums who say they don't need to upgrade because their phone runs KK fine and it's just as fast as any phone on KitKat with custom kernel and perfect kernel settings are fooling themselves. Sad to say, but true. Oh you can manage 5hr SoT with the gnex? Yeah with screen locked @ 20%, sync off, NFC off, location off, connected to WiFi/airplane mode, etc. I get 7hr SoT average with all that left on.
I loved my gnex because it was a nexus, my first nexus. The freedom to mod it was unmatched by any other phone I've had before. The members on the gnex forums were awesome and helpful and I learned a lot...
...but that was like 2 years ago. The phone is old and it shows it. I loaded KK on my old gnex after a month+ of using the N5. Gnex can't quite keep up and trying to use it is frustrating for me now.
^^^agreed on all points. Also lets not forget the "B stock" amoled panel on that thing.
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RoyJ said it all perfectly. While I love my N7, and having both devices is great, if I only had the means to own one the N5 would definitely be first choice.
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==**Team Nexus 5 sucks.**==
Underpowered battery for a 5inch 1080p screen that is non-removable. Weak generic antenna that drops signal. Worst speaker of any device on the market. Weak vibration motor. Power button rattles. Cheap plastic build
^This guy doesn't seem to realize...Nexus phone, $350/450. Any other new phone off contract like $600-800.
Plus all- or at least most of those (non)issues have already been addressed in new batches.
You won't find the battery underpowered. Like I said it craps all over the gnex battery. If you're coming from a gnex, you will most likely praise the battery life of this phone.
Weak generic antenna? I never noticed this. I had crappy service on T-Mobile, but I can walk almost 30ft outside my house and still be connected to WiFi and load pages. No boosters or anything, just normal ATT u-verse modem/router.
The speaker has its issues, granted. There is a hardware mod in the forums to fix this. If you are uncomfortable opening up your device, you could always RMA it for a model that has fixed speakers. New batches address rattling buttons & speakers AFAIK.
Weak vibrate motor... I am not sure about stock, but most, if not all custom kernels over here set the default vibration to 63%... 63/100. Just use your favorite kernel control app to turn it up. If that isn't the case there are reported defects in some N5's with the vibration motor. Again, RMA your device back to Google if you believe you got a defective model.
And oh my cheap plastic build? OK that does it lol. You have got to be kidding me. Did you ever even own a gnex, dice? This phone feels great compared to it. The gnex is a cheap plastic model. I won't even get into this. It makes me question if you have ever even held an N5, or just troll our forums.
Don't let this chump scare you away. It's legit. Tablets are cool I guess, but why carry an almost 2 year old phone + a 7 inch tablet? When the N5 does the function of both!
I think you should get both the N5 and N7 and keep the Gnex live. I have both the N5 and N7, and my Nexus One as a second phone, all running KitKat 4.4.2. It's awesome.
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Here's how to deal with dice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48726720&postcount=91 Glad to see your having another splendid day in phone hell buddy.
good day.
He's our own little troll under the bridge.
Came from a gnex to the n5 and omg what a difference. Go with an N5. You will never use your gnex again lol
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If you're still good with the Gnex for just phone duties I would actually say the N7 tablet. N5 is an amazing phone but tablets are just more useable for everything except phone calls and you wouldn't have to have one device to do everything which is when the N5 battery shows it's weakness.
Thanks everyone for your time .. I ordered White Nexus 5 last week to replace my Gnex. Waiting to get my hands on it.
Bhupinder
If anyone has, please share your views. I for one don't see how the 6P is better other than the fact that it has a terrific camera. But the other things are pretty much what we get on the OPO. Isn't it?
Hi there, I immediately jumped ship once the 6P came out, and have been loving it.
I don't use the camera much, but there are 4 things that have stood out since getting it:
1. It feels sooooo much better in the hand.
It's slightly wider, but not really that noticeable. The metal feels much better than the sandpaper of the 64 gig OPO, and the device is just well constructed all around.
2. All the fingerprints!
The fingerprint reader is freaking great! At my work we have to encrypt and lock our phones if we want to connect to the exchange server, and having the fingerprint reader means I am not constantly typing in my pin code, and that reader is FAST.
3. NO FINGERPRINTS!
Seriously, I don't know how this miracle was pulled off, but when I had the OPO, I was cleaning it all the damn time, and it would immediately get dirty again. I swear I don't have any gloves made of pizza, but I feel like that wouldn't even be a big deal on the 6P. Whatever mixture of Olympian sweat and unicorn tears they coated this glorious screen with works like a freaking charm, because I rarely have to consciously clean the screen. Most of the time, just being pocketbound is enough.
4. It works as intended.
This might not affect everyone, but for the two OPO's I ordered, (one for me, one for a friend) both had connectivity problems fairly regularly. It took a lot of flashing and tinkering to get mine semi-stable on a rom I liked, and his is still borked because the flashing process on his phone didn't go super smoothly.
What I miss:
Double tap to wake.
That is all.
@ak for sure ^^
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@ak for sure ^^
Sent from my bacon!!!!!
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AK went to the 6P so I don't see how that applies ? unless you stick to last CM12.1 nightly
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
I did, after a few weeks with it I have to say that there is a bit of buyers remorse, but not enough for me to send it back. My primary issue with the opo was that it has a good camera not a great camera. I take a lot of photos and wanted a better camera. I did in fact get what I wanted.
The feel, its nice but its super slippery and I have to say that even though it's got a metal shell it doesn't feel very tough, I am treating it much more gingerly than I did my opo, its obvious that these phones have a bending issue. Did I mention its slippery?
The OS is nice, but I was already used to it thanks to sultan and his cm13.
I have a very good fingerprint reader, but I've been a big user of smartlock so it doesn't get used very much and Android pay is still out of reach since it won't work on a rooted phone.
Performance is good, but again I don't notice much difference day to day other than when the sucker gets really hot and slows down. It does cool down really fast.
I spend a lot of time in a car and have to use the USB a to C converter, so I don't get quick charge.
It can doze for days, but with regular use it dies fasted than my opo did.
The audio sucks without viper4android.
My happiest surprise is that it works flawlessly with my Acura hands free(I have had no phones that have) but the a2dp has anomalies.
The screen is beautiful, but not than much more beautiful than my adjusted opo screen.
There are no off screen gestures, it doesn't sound like a big deal but it is, you can enable double tap to wake but you have to do it every time you restart.
I have T-Mobile lte connection issues I didn't have with my opo. Not bad, but annoying.
The theming engine doesn't work for me.
When I say "that much more" what I mean is hundreds of dollars more. The phone would be easier to justify if it was at least $100 less.
Oneplus reset my expectations...
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
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Huahwei will finance it for you, but the interest might be a bit high.
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I'm tossing it up, I only got my One 12 months ago, and I have enough money right now to buy basically anything that I want outright, but I'm thinking I might just wait until the OnePlus 3. I worked out that I can either buy a OnePlus device every year (if they are similarly priced), or buy another flagship type every 2 years, and I'm thinking that the 12 month option is going to work better for me and I've never really had any problems with my One.
From what I've seen of the battery life with the 6P, I'm not sold on it. Plus I feel as though the SD810 is not the greatest chip in the world. I'm going to wait for the SD820 devices to come out. To me, the 6P just seems like an incremental upgrade over the OPO, and I can't justify it at the price point they are selling it at.
For me a bumb from the OPO to the 6P is to small that i would spend 500€ on it + I don't support Huawei anyway + Fingerprint can get bypassed easy by a 14 year old nerd ~
I switched and will never buy another one plus product again after my one year experience owning that pos.
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It's too expensive for my current budget
Got my nexus 6p a few days ago.. Let me tell you, this is probably the best phone I've ever had. The screen, build quality, overall phone responsiveness is A1 , 10/10! I've had the iPhone 6 plus, Note 5 and this nexus 6p definitely beats both in almost every way.
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Thinking about making the switch myself.
Basically, there are some stuffs that hold me to switch to a so expensive phone.
First of all, I relized that my opo will never die: the community is really active, we are talking of a two years old phone. I'm really happy to know that I can find almost everything I need for my phone. That not mean that I think that the 6P community is smaller (AK we miss you), but it's not the 'nexus' name on the back that will change my mind.
And about the performance, well, my opo still do what should do in almost every conditions.
And the battery life is awesome, really, I hate to arrive at home and run to plug my phone, as I hate to save battery while I'm out and avoid to use the phone cause I'm scared it die before I can plug it.
And the sandstone fell on the back, it's pure love for me.
The 6P is a really really great phone, great camera, great performance with MM, but it cost about twice what i paid my opo. Moreover, I don't feel the need of a SD810 at all, I would definetively wait for something with the new quad 820.
Maybe the new Nexus (I always loved Htc phones, so I really hope in something by them for the new Nexus) or meybe the future OP3.
I think that my opo will survive till and will give me a lot of fun till its moment arrive, maybe the next november
Don't mind me, I'm just cyberstalking this thread. Pay no attention to the guy in the corner
I bought a N6P from google play store but returned it (under Googles ridiculously generous return policy) and went back to my OPO. I don't think the build quality of the N6 was very good. It is big and slippery and yet not very robust, unlike the OPO. I strongly disagree with the poster above who prefers the N6P back. It is too slippery - the OPO "sandpaper" is MUCH better for these big phones. Also, the N6P price in Australia is outrageous given it is just another Chinese phone. The OPO running Android 6 - CM13 (Sultan) is still near a state-of-the-art phone.
The Nexus 5 is an amazing phone, even so far into its life. I've replaced the battery once already, and at one point I built a single working phone from two Nexus 5s that my wife damaged (she's hard on phones). These are not devices that are really meant to be repaired, but so far they've been worth repairing.
I don't want to move on, but eventually I'm going to have to. There are no new batteries being manufactured for this phone, and sooner or later both of these phones will die from something. So, to get a jump on it, I'm starting to shop around.
If you had to replace your N5 tomorrow, what would you buy? My absolute must-haves are wireless charging, unlockability, and a robust development community. Everything else is optional to greater or lesser degree, though a user-replaceable battery and SD storage would be nice things. What say you, community?
dwasifar said:
The Nexus 5 is an amazing phone, even so far into its life. I've replaced the battery once already, and at one point I built a single working phone from two Nexus 5s that my wife damaged (she's hard on phones). These are not devices that are really meant to be repaired, but so far they've been worth repairing.
I don't want to move on, but eventually I'm going to have to. There are no new batteries being manufactured for this phone, and sooner or later both of these phones will die from something. So, to get a jump on it, I'm starting to shop around.
If you had to replace your N5 tomorrow, what would you buy? My absolute must-haves are wireless charging, unlockability, and a robust development community. Everything else is optional to greater or lesser degree, though a user-replaceable battery and SD storage would be nice things. What say you, community?
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Well, I just made this decision, and I got rid of an LG G3 (I know, quite old) because the screen was a bit big for me, but it had some of things you wanted like swappable battery / external storage etc., and well, I swapped it for Nexus 5X, despite the flaws you mention! That's not the boring answer you wanted I know. For me, price vs performance is the biggest factor. I will never spend £500 on a phone!
I'd say a Nexus 6. Because I have one, and it fits most of your criteria.
The battery can be replaced - see Youtube videos. Not plug-and-play, but you have to do it only every couple of years.
Expandable storage? See attached photo of 128GB on my little fingertip, plus Stickmount (root) to make it work.
"wireless charging, unlockability, and a robust development community" - yes.
Too big? That's what I thought, but the screen is awesome, perfect for ebook & video. A superb pocketable entertainment centre.
And it's a far more affordable device than when I bought it.
6p
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6p
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When did they add wireless charging to the 6P? I don't see anything anywhere about that.
Its hard to move on from nexus 5...maybe the next Nexus would do
I would probably chose Nexus 5X, because it ticks all the boxes for me (I don't need wireless charging), plus it's dirt cheap at 250 € here in Europe.
i bought a Nextbit Robin to replace my 2years+ N5.
i keep it as 2nd phone running Sailfish.
Upgraded to an S6 Edge last year. Nexus 6P / Galaxy S7 Edge would be the choice if I wanted to upgrade now from Nexus 5.
Still love the N5, the best phone they made.
Google I/O is almost upon us, I'd say wait and see. If you like what you see or don't then I'd suggest the 5x have it to this day and loving it, perfect replacement for the OG Nexus 5...
For a cheap and powerful AOSP replacement I went for the xiaomi redmi note 3 pro with the Qualcomm factory ROM.