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How to know if your magic is truly bricked or only semi bricked.

I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
Caid.
444.
EDIT
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?

Did you try other key combinations such as Home+Power, or Back+Power?

I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
Caid444 said:
I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
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It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Caid444 said:
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
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Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
Caid444 said:
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
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I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Caid444 said:
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
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Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
Caid444 said:
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
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If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
Caid444 said:
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
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That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!

Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
biktor_gj said:
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
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To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
Again, a really big thanks. I've sent my phone back and am getting a new one soon. I much appreciate your reply, however, as it's probably the most understanding and considerate reply I've seen on these forums.
Cheers.
Caid.
444

One more quick question out of curiosity, when you press and hold back and press end to turn on the device (it still goes to the htc magic screen) SHOULD it go to a different screen, other than the "htc magic" screen? Or is that a process that runs without some sort of visual notification on the device itself?
The usb was completely unresponsive after this happened, but in the event that bootloader may have been running, (only possible if it runs without any visual notification on the device itself), I'll go pick up the device and see if my usb drivers on my computer just became unresponsive after being accessed too many times. Sometimes windows does that, right? Perhaps a reboot would have allowed fastboot and the drivers to connect again, if the device was trying to talk to the computer, but I just didn't know on account of not having any notification.
So, again, should pressing back and power bring me to a different screen? or would it also look like it was hanging on htc magic screen?
Caid.
444
p.s. Sorry for the confusing wording, I'm tired and trying very hard to be as specific as possible.

back+end/power should lead you to the fastboot screen right after it shows the HTC Magic screen or whatever splash screen you have installed.
Home+end/power should lead you to the recovery screen.

ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444

Caid444 said:
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
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No problem, we all should be here to learn, and to help (except for the trolls)
This is the guide I followed for both Vodafone branded Magics: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
Maybe not for now, but for the next magic you get it may come handy
Caid444 said:
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
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When the phone is off with the charger connected and you press the power button, the light goes off, as for the others, you really should be able to enter the SPL if it could the magic bootlogo and vibrated upon boot...
Maybe you didn't try enough or maybe your bootloader behaved differently than mine... I should be more clear anyway, to get to the bootloader, the best way to make it go to the bootloader is press and hold back key, then while holding it, hold the power button too. It should take about a second or two before showing the three skater droids.
Caid444 said:
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
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When you put the battery while USB or charger is connected, the phone boots up, that's the normal behaviour. About the blue led, that's the Radio bootloader. That's quite dangerous to play with, but it gives a lot of other functions. Another sign that your phone wasn't completely dead Even if you wipe the SPL (the three skater droids), you may be able to boot into the Radio bootloader and write or boot another one to fix it. But that's waaaay harder
Caid444 said:
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
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I guess the first advice when you start tricking with a phone is be careful with what you're doing. That's the good thing of fastboot.
When booting on fastboot mode, you can pick, for example a recovery image, and boot it without overwriting the original rom:
Code:
fastboot boot [recovery_image]
Then, when you see it's working, you can flash it:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery [recovery_image]
fastboot flash boot [boot_image]
fastboot flash system [system_image]
fastboot flash data [data_image]
You can't do that with the system.img since it's too big, but you can do it also with a boot.img
About the key combinations on the phone, it goes like this:
Code:
BACK + END KEY -> Fastboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
VOLDOWN + END KEY -> Hboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
ACTION (trackball center) + END KEY -> Radio Bootloader (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
HOME + END KEY -> Recovery mode (you should see the boot logo, then get the recovery menu)
SEND + MENU + END -> Reboot the phone (while the phone is on)
Maybe there are more (android has kind of 'safe mode' but I don't know it it goes there automatically if there's a problem or if it has to be called manually)
Anyway, I hope these things will be useful for the next phone, and for anybody who's a bit lost on this
Regards!

Let us know where you live , so maybe one can help you , I live in Sweden and will be glad to help you if you are near ;-)

Hey! Thanks again for all the help, and the offer to come help. Unfortunately, I'm in China. Coming here from Sweden (although it's a single large landmass) would take quite a bit of time
I appreciate all the support, though. Very cool community we're building here for the magic.
Caid.
444

htc semi-brick?
Hi to all. I'm in the same condition described in this tread; after installing SPL i get the htc block in Vodafone brand red screen.
None keys combination bring me to the boot menù. Only Action(trackball) + power have effect, but with a black screen...
Any suggest?

What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.

Newbie need help
ok so i can still go to recovery mode but everytime i reboot my phone the mytouch 3g logo never goes away im new to Android but not htc can somebody plz help me out.

gruppler said:
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
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Instead of flashing something, you boot a recovery image, and then, from there, you flash whatever you need (using adb & flash_image for example)
PS: Be a little patient, if fastboot is letting you boot a recovery image, the recovery needs to boot, and that takes a little while, and while it's booting, you see the bootlogo until the menu appears. Also, you can try running adb shell after boot process started to try to get an error message (or at least to know if the thing is booting in some way)

I couldn't boot any recovery images. I had tried a few different Hero ROMs but decided i wanted to use Cupcake again because i have a 32B board and it just doesn't have enough RAM, though Swapper makes it usable at least. I don't know what exactly i did, but i've learned a lot from my mistakes. Everything i tried failed the signature check because the hboot version didn't match. If i could just flash the 1.33.2005 hboot again, i would have been in business, but no matter which recovery image i tried, it just sat there doing nothing. And believe me, i waited.
Fortunately, T-Mobile gave me a new device after i took it in and played dumb. And I just rooted it =]

Caid444 said:
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
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Why not flashing it with an RUU from HTC. Not sure that would work but it is worth trying.

Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted

iivanovic said:
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
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I have the same problem. I get up hboot and fast boot menus can not get it in recovery. try to add in sappimg but no luck

I'm having the exact same problem...
Any solution yet?

Hello! I can assure you that your phone is not fully bricked! Awhile ago I flashed a new radio only to discover that I hadn't done my research and was a complete and total idiot. I flashed the 1.76.xxxx on a 32B. It didn't like it. I got a quick HTC logo that disappeared then the phone never responded again. When I say never responded it was dead. no combination of buttons would get any response. If you can get into fastboot you have options. All that's necessary is to make sure you have the appropriate sappimg file. Try the Unlockr's gold card method file. He has a .zip file that may work for you. Just make sure that you find an image that is compatible with your board (32A or 32B). Hope this helps!

[Q] Unable to factory reset

Yesterday my phone started acting up. All running process crashed and not many was able to start. I had to constantly click "force close". I think this started after I installed the Google+ app, but not sure.
I have tried uninstalling all unnecessary apps, without luck. I then tried wiping to factory settings by using the Android menu, but without any changing. I then tried by holding vol+ and power, going in to recovery and wiping both to factory and app cache. This doesn't change anything either. By googling I can see some suggests to hold vol- and power, to get to a another wiping-functionality but this just boots my Nexus S to normal state - no menu appears.
Has anybody an idea of what I can do?
Edit: more info; if I click "Report" and investigate the message sent to Google, I see that error has something to do with SQLite-relatet classes. Which makes some sense, alot of my changes are reset each time the phone is rebooted. For instance did I miss a call a couple of hours before the phone went crazy - this is shown at each boot in the notification area eventhough I clear the area and/or goes to missed call section

Factory reset via menu does delete all your "custom" apps, so I'd say it's not one of the existing apps causing problems.
The way you describe function after your factory reset sounds like factory reset didn't work properly.
If you feel safe I'd recommend rather flashing 2.3.4 again using either Odin or the OTA zip from Google (requires open bootloader).

I think you're right that factory reset doesn't do what is expected. Once I click it, the phone reboots and shows the Android guy next to an unwrapping package. This lasts only 2 seconds, then it reboots itself again and goes into normal phone mode (where all the app-crashing starts again).
I have not flashed or rooted my phone before, but I will consider this now since my NS is pretty much a brick. Thank you for your swiftly response.
Edit: Shouldn't I get a menu, when I push and hold vol- button, while turning on the device? Right now it just boot as normal.

Before you use odin....try going into rom manager a reflashing clockwork! Ive had that android dude on my screeen but reflashibg via rom manager always fixed it. Try that
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Wow my Nexus has totally shut me out.
I cannot use ClockworkMod unfortunately since I am not able to root my phone. It is not detectable via USA (when I use vol+/pwr and connect USB). I am unable to check the USB Debugging option on the phone. Each time I check it, go to home-screen and back to the menu, it has de-selected it again. Also I noticed when I read the info that is sent to Google for all those app-crashes I get, I see SQLiteException and error in an SQLite.java file. So it seems like some database layer is broken.
I read one could copy the ClockWork.img to my phone and use the standard recovery option to flash the img (I think). But when I go into the recovery menu, the file is gone. When I boot the phone again, it has deleted the .img file - eventhough if I copy it to several different folders, they are all gone :-(.
I feel pretty screwed at the moment. How can I else wipe all data?

I'd recommend to check if your device is correctly identified in windows. Missing USB drivers might cause problems. Get the latest drivers and a guide from here.
If you succeed booting into fastboot properly (vol up and power) you can follow this guide. Get the latest cwm recovery.img here.
Last option would be to boot into download mode (vol up + vol down + power + plugging in usb cable) and use Odin from samfirmware.com
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All options require correctly working USB drivers.

I managed to unlock the bootloader, by quickly turning on USB-debugging (before any processes started to crash) and install the drivers from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6819751&postcount=4
A reboot later, I got this message:
"System UIDs Inconsistent
UIDs on the system are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable."
Right below was a button saying "Im feeling lucky" (??)
I installed ClockworkMod using fastboot and tried "Fixing permissions" with no luck. I will try some ROM later on, and hope it will bring my phone back

Normally this error happens when you have a faulty app ruining your system, formating/deleting whole sdcard does usually fix this.

rentaric said:
Normally this error happens when you have a faulty app ruining your system, formating/deleting whole sdcard does usually fix this.
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I can safely mount USB-storage and format the whole bunch?
I been sweating over this stupid issue all day now, all I want is a fac-reset :´(
Edit: "format /sdcard" using CWM didn't do anything

DennisRP said:
I can safely mount USB-storage and format the whole bunch?
I been sweating over this stupid issue all day now, all I want is a fac-reset :´(
Edit: "format /sdcard" using CWM didn't do anything
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See I'm no expert on this whole thing. At this point I'd just flash a whole new system via Odin. Prolly not the smartest or safest option, but that's what I'd do because I don't know better. If that wouldn't fix it either, I'd return the phone on warranty

I was looking at Odin from the start, since nothing else seemed to be working.
So right now I got started on Odin. Followed the .pdf steps and flashed the bootloader at first succesfully. I was asked to remove the battery and re-connect my NS. Began downloading "pda" and "phone", but at around 10% a big fat red "fail" message appeared and now I just see the Google-logo on startup. I still cant flash any roms via fastboot.
Im too tired too right now, been working with this for 14 hours straight. I will look at it tomorrow evening. Thanks for your help rentaric

Weird, you're not the first one who had trouble running Odin using their guide.
Overall it's pretty simple.
Enter download mode. Vol up vol down and power at the same time while plugging in the USB cable. Start Odin, should show a yellow colored box with a port number. Uncheck everything but reset timer and auto reboot. Unzip the correct zip file from samfirmware.com (check if you got i9020 or i9023 and get the universal Odin exe), apply file from the folder accordingly. Bootloader and bootloader. Phone and modem. Pda and pda. Csc can remain empty (will change carrier info in fastboot).
Double check md5 hash to avoid broken files.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

rentaric said:
Weird, you're not the first one who had trouble running Odin using their guide.
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Of course I did not go to bed, how should I be able to sleep with a broken phone .
The firmware suggested on samfirmware.com for my phone, was 2.3.3 and some other version (my phone was 2.3.4.2/GRJ22 or something similar, I suspect that might be the cause. Also I unchecked everything, that might also have been of importance). The flash will always fail when everything was downloaded - it then said something about "remote" and "Loke" and then fail. But as I mentioned, I had succesfully flashed boot.img (2.3.3) thus no boot occured now. I googled the correct bootloader, used fastboot and was booting succesfully again.
I began looking more into the sdcard, as error-messages was leading me this way. To compress 4 hours of investigations into a few lines, it seems as my PBA is malfunctioning as other xda-members have experinced. Only solution is sending the phone to Samsung for a PBA replacement. I purchased the phone in Bestbuy USA and the danish Samsung partners are not too joyfull about this - I will contact Samsung and hope they can help me.
I experinced the exact same thing as this poor guy - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993403
Every thing you try to do to /sdcard is worthless.
Formatting (USB/using CWM/using adb shell linux commands) says "Succes" but nothing happens.
Copying files says "Succes" but nothing happens. If I boot phone into CWM, mount usb and upload new rom/apk/whatever and try to do a "install update.zip" it fails with some mounting errors.
Im ready to go cry in a corner - I really want this to be fixable via software, but I probably have to realize that this is a hardware issue.

Apparently Samsung doesn't offer worldwide warranty for cellularphones :´(. God it sucks to pay repair-expenses on a 1 month old mobile.

[Q] Atrix 2 won't boot past "M" Motorola logo

Hey guys,
Forgive me for being frantic and (probably) not taking the steps needed to research this issue, or not taking the time to do so, but I'm sure you can all presumably imagine -if you've not been in this situation before- that it SUCKS not having a phone in this day in age...
My problem: Atrix 2 (Rooted + CWM Recovery) now won't boot passed the "M" Motorola logo upon start up. It won't even allow me to access the factory Android Recovery by holding down Volume Up, Volume Down, and Power. I think I inadvertently bricked the phone? (Hope not!)
Further, the "M" Motorola logo is skewed in appearance, like its not even loading correctly. I'm not sure what to do. This is my first time rooting and getting experienced with custom ROMS.
Anyone able to help this helpless sap?
Thanks is advance to your replies...

Step 1 is where you tell what you did to get into the state you are in. You wouldn't believe how far it goes toward fixing something if you know how it got broken.
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If you have CWM recovery on boot can't you just do a battery pull? You do NOT want to let that thing bootloop forever until the battery dies.
The End.

KEB64 said:
If you have CWM recovery on boot can't you just do a battery pull? You do NOT want to let that thing bootloop forever until the battery dies.
The End.
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Agreed pull the battery. If you run out of juice you'll be in some serious trouble.
Did you try to flash the fkz? Unless you have CWM on Boot it's the only way you can get your phone working.

Okay, sorry for not giving a full rundown on what stupidity on my part cause all of this. Let me start by saying that (sadly) I am a great big n00b when it comes to Linux, and I thought that despite my research online I would sort of explore the CWM Recovery 'Advanced' sections.
I downloaded ROM Toolbox from the Play Store, and installed a custom boot animation, and replaced -or thought I was- the startup "M" logo with something else. This is what concerned me: After re-booting, the "M" logo was all crazy looking, with a "stretched" "M" logo over the top of the "regular" logo.
So, I uninstalled the app, but the logo was still all messed up. So, I used Root Uninstaller to get rid of the ROM Toolbox files, still no resolve to the crazy boot logo.
So, I went into CWM Recovery Advanced, and wiped everything. The Dalvik, cache, System, Data, etc... didn't think that it would -what appears to have happened- wipe out the OS on the phone.
I tried pulling the battery, and re-booting, won't boot passed the skewed "M" logo still. Tried getting into Android Recovery, and it looks to go through the recovery goes through its thing, but never boots normally afterward.
Sorry for being such an idiot, I really shouldn't have messed with this while half asleep, and again I can't apologize enough for being such a stupid n00b.
I can attach an image of the boot logo if that helps, but I'm worried I am just S.O.L. at this point...
Also, not sure what an FKZ is. I tried to install a 2.3.6 apk file to my wife's SD card on her phone and booting from the file after putting the SD card into mine. Still nothing.

pull the battery, put it back in, and hold vol up and down while turning on. choose ap fastboot at the menu. go to the thread in my signature and under the mirrors there is also a download of the return to stock script. run it while in fastboot and plugged in with usb. DO NOT pull the chord until it is done. when it is you should be good.

Apex_Strider said:
Okay, sorry for not giving a full rundown on what stupidity on my part cause all of this. Let me start by saying that (sadly) I am a great big n00b when it comes to Linux, and I thought that despite my research online I would sort of explore the CWM Recovery 'Advanced' sections.
I downloaded ROM Toolbox from the Play Store, and installed a custom boot animation, and replaced -or thought I was- the startup "M" logo with something else. This is what concerned me: After re-booting, the "M" logo was all crazy looking, with a "stretched" "M" logo over the top of the "regular" logo.
So, I uninstalled the app, but the logo was still all messed up. So, I used Root Uninstaller to get rid of the ROM Toolbox files, still no resolve to the crazy boot logo.
So, I went into CWM Recovery Advanced, and wiped everything. The Dalvik, cache, System, Data, etc... didn't think that it would -what appears to have happened- wipe out the OS on the phone.
I tried pulling the battery, and re-booting, won't boot passed the skewed "M" logo still. Tried getting into Android Recovery, and it looks to go through the recovery goes through its thing, but never boots normally afterward.
Sorry for being such an idiot, I really shouldn't have messed with this while half asleep, and again I can't apologize enough for being such a stupid n00b.
I can attach an image of the boot logo if that helps, but I'm worried I am just S.O.L. at this point...
Also, not sure what an FKZ is. I tried to install a 2.3.6 apk file to my wife's SD card on her phone and booting from the file after putting the SD card into mine. Still nothing.
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Yeah wiping the system partition is a no no unless you flash another rom afterwards. Do like ikrasner says and you should be back to normal.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I really hope that something positive comes about this... though, to go without mention, I certainly need more knowledge on WTH I am doing to my phone: understanding flashing ROMS, what dangers come with rooting, and a vast array of other "all things root" that I need to learn up on.
I will try to install from SD card the 2.3.5 zip tonight, but will it (the phone) look for the newest 2.3.6 OTA update and try to ask me to install? How does that work after rooting, will I re-brick my clearly bricked phone all over again?
As always, thanks for all your replies in advance -you guys really know what's going on here!

can you read chinese?
Maybe I can solve your question,but poor of my english.
and what is your phone type?
at&t hktw or china ?
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Apex_Strider said:
Thanks for all the help guys, I really hope that something positive comes about this... though, to go without mention, I certainly need more knowledge on WTH I am doing to my phone: understanding flashing ROMS, what dangers come with rooting, and a vast array of other "all things root" that I need to learn up on.
I will try to install from SD card the 2.3.5 zip tonight, but will it (the phone) look for the newest 2.3.6 OTA update and try to ask me to install? How does that work after rooting, will I re-brick my clearly bricked phone all over again?
As always, thanks for all your replies in advance -you guys really know what's going on here!
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It should ask you to install 2.3.6. Just go into setting>about phone>check for updates. Or you could go and install one of the roms that are based on 2.3.6 such as Lithium Sonya or SCv5.

Okay gang, perhaps I'm just certifiably dumb, or I am simply just not doing this correctly. I downloaded the "Returntostock2.3.5.script" zip file and copied it to my wife's SD card to 'apply update from sdcard' option from the Android Recovery area by holding Vol Up, Vol Down, & Power buttons. What I got was this:
--Install /sdcard ...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
I tried to just plug the USB into the phone and run the 2.3.5. script from there. but again- I'm stuck in the crazy skewed "M" logo startup screen with nothing following. That's all the phone will do at this point, other than my getting into Android Recovery.
I'm not sure how or what fastboot is, or how it works. If the phone is plugged into the USB, it will only boot the stupid screwed up "M" logo screen. Noting else.

Apex_Strider said:
Okay gang, perhaps I'm just certifiably dumb, or I am simply just not doing this correctly. I downloaded the "Returntostock2.3.5.script" zip file and copied it to my wife's SD card to 'apply update from sdcard' option from the Android Recovery area by holding Vol Up, Vol Down, & Power buttons. What I got was this:
--Install /sdcard ...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
I tried to just plug the USB into the phone and run the 2.3.5. script from there. but again- I'm stuck in the crazy skewed "M" logo startup screen with nothing following. That's all the phone will do at this point, other than my getting into Android Recovery.
I'm not sure how or what fastboot is, or how it works. If the phone is plugged into the USB, it will only boot the stupid screwed up "M" logo screen. Noting else.
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do not flash this. unzip it on your computer, choose to boot into fast boot in the same place you chose recovery, then run the .bat file that was in the zip.
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What that file does is reflash your system.img, basically restoring your phone to factory default. And just as a sidenote you cannot flash things with the standard Android Recovery. You need CWM.

did you try apboot mode and ise fastboot to flash system.img ?
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Still not working... not sure how to flash from fastboot. I don't have any options to run a file from there, or at least not sure ow to go about that.

Fastboot sample, hope will help you.
http://bbs.gfan.com/mobile/android-3701449-1-1.html
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dickluo said:
Fastboot sample, hope will help you.
http://bbs.gfan.com/mobile/android-3701449-1-1.html
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So, if I'm looking at this correctly, I need to open command prompt from my computer, and type the commands in from there?
I don't think my computer is recogzining the phone in any way, as I cannot get into the 'manage usb connections' options.
If I have the 2.3.5.script downloaded on my desktop, and l plug my phone in after launching AP Fastboot on the phone, will the computer know where to flash the file to?
I know, I'm a dolt... please bear with me, I really need to get this thing working again -I feel naked without my phone!

Apex_Strider said:
So, if I'm looking at this correctly, I need to open command prompt from my computer, and type the commands in from there?
I don't think my computer is recogzining the phone in any way, as I cannot get into the 'manage usb connections' options.
If I have the 2.3.5.script downloaded on my desktop, and l plug my phone in after launching AP Fastboot on the phone, will the computer know where to flash the file to?
I know, I'm a dolt... please bear with me, I really need to get this thing working again -I feel naked without my phone!
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Before using the restore script you need to install the usb drivers for your mb865, you can get those from here: http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/Experiences/Global_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.40_Driver_5.5.0.exe
Next unzip the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT.zip to anywhere you like in your pc (example: C:\RestoreScript\ )
Next connect your phone with the usb cable to the pc and get into fastboot mode for this in your phone press volume down + volume up + power it should appear a screen with some options, use the volume down key of your phone to navigate through the menu until you see the Fastboot option, then enter by pressing the volume up key, this will show you some messages and the finally it should said usb connected.
Then open the folder where you extracted the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT files and search a .bat file call "Stock Restore" then run the file (double click on it) and it should open a command promt screen with some instructions if the phone is connected correctly and you installed the drivers correctly then in some point the screen will show you the id of your device and it will wait you to press the enter key to start the proccess, press key enter wait all the proccess until the program said to you its finished, after that it will reboot your phone and install the stock 2.3.5 when it boots up you should see the android logo and a progress bar filling up.
when it's done wait the reboot and your phone should be ok.
hope this helps.

jfrank1485 said:
Before using the restore script you need to install the usb drivers for your mb865, you can get those from here: http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/Experiences/Global_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.40_Driver_5.5.0.exe
Next unzip the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT.zip to anywhere you like in your pc (example: C:\RestoreScript\ )
Next connect your phone with the usb cable to the pc and get into fastboot mode for this in your phone press volume down + volume up + power it should appear a screen with some options, use the volume down key of your phone to navigate through the menu until you see the Fastboot option, then enter by pressing the volume up key, this will show you some messages and the finally it should said usb connected.
Then open the folder where you extracted the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT files and search a .bat file call "Stock Restore" then run the file (double click on it) and it should open a command promt screen with some instructions if the phone is connected correctly and you installed the drivers correctly then in some point the screen will show you the id of your device and it will wait you to press the enter key to start the proccess, press key enter wait all the proccess until the program said to you its finished, after that it will reboot your phone and install the stock 2.3.5 when it boots up you should see the android logo and a progress bar filling up.
when it's done wait the reboot and your phone should be ok.
hope this helps.
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jfrank1485,
This stepped me through the entire process without any confusion! Everything is back to normal! Hooray and three Huzzahs!
Also, many many thanks to dickluo, farshad525hou, lkrasner, mtnlion, and KEB64!
You guys really saved my stupid (you know what) on this deal! Next order of business: figure out what the heck I am doing before doing ANYTHING!
Problem solved, my world has regained sanity, and my phone is back to life!
You guys are the best, thank you all so much!!!

Apex_Strider said:
jfrank1485,
This stepped me through the entire process without any confusion! Everything is back to normal! Hooray and three Huzzahs!
Also, many many thanks to dickluo, farshad525hou, lkrasner, mtnlion, and KEB64!
You guys really saved my stupid (you know what) on this deal! Next order of business: figure out what the heck I am doing before doing ANYTHING!
Problem solved, my world has regained sanity, and my phone is back to life!
You guys are the best, thank you all so much!!!
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I'm glad it work , keep it at hand before doing anything to your phone, it really helps

lg mytouch c800 bricked?

hi im pretty new here a friend of mine gave me her lg c800 mytouch to try and fix it for her.. not sure what she did she said she rooted the phone and the root was successful but i have a good idea that she doesnt know what she was doing..i will post a pic of the error screen im getting. but it says
E:Cant find misc
E:cant find misc
Finding update package...
E:unknown volume for path [sd:/download/adb_fastboot_and_other_tools.Zip]
E:Cant mount SDCARD:/download/adb_fastboot_and_other_tools.zip
Installation aborted
facory reset failed
restart factory reset..
now im far from a pro at this i know a lil more about computers and Ios devices..but ive rooted a few phones and to me it looks like she unzipped adb fastboot on her phone from her sd card??
ive tried holding F..A..vol down..and power..Nothing..
ive tried volume up .volume down and power still nothing..
BUT if i hold E..vol UP and power it brings me to a white screen that says S/W update
the big problem is the phone wont stay on long enough to do anything on the computer it stays on 3 sec. then reboots to same screen (computer says phone is unplugged) then phone just keeps restarting.
but the phone WILL stay on when i put it on the S/W update screen..but computer wont recognize the phone at all on that screen
ive tried the adb and fastboot commands but the phone wont stay recognized..it will recognize the phone and say thats its in recovery mode but when phone restarts it dont see phone no more..
well thanks ahead of time if anyone has any input or solution
and hopefully all this will make sense to someone lol
i think this pic will work.. if not ill try again

any ideas please?? or am i completely out of luck?

When you say:
delilah25 said:
it will recognize the phone and say thats its in recovery mode but when phone restarts it dont see phone no more..
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...do you mean that you can successfully communicate with the phone over USB, but you only have 3 seconds? What way is the phone recognized? Is it visible to adb/fastboot?

post-mortem said:
When you say:
...do you mean that you can successfully communicate with the phone over USB, but you only have 3 seconds? What way is the phone recognized? Is it visible to adb/fastboot?
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Yes In Adb device list it shows the phone and then says recovery..but after that I don't have enough time to type any other commands ..the phone is also recognized in "my computer" as removable device then when the phone restarts seconds later it says device unplugged ..and just keeps restarting on its own till I remove the battery...I just read on the forum in a post that Adb will recognize the phone if it's off but I remove the battery and put it back in and plug in USB and phone turns on and keeps restarting won't even let me turn it off!! I'm losing patience with this thing lol
But I don't get why the error mentions fastboot? Not my phone so if it's not fixable I don't really care but I'm just the stuborn type when it comes to fixing electronics ..again thanks ahead of time to anyone that helps cuz I'm completely lost on this one

Have you tried timing it to send a quick "adb reboot recovery"? If you can use fastboot, you can tell it to boot off a new, custom recovery img, without actually flashing it.

i have the same problem
post-mortem said:
Have you tried timing it to send a quick "adb reboot recovery"? If you can use fastboot, you can tell it to boot off a new, custom recovery img, without actually flashing it.
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i used an app on the market to remove bloatware. i removed slacker and the app stated that after two reboots that everything would be fine and the app would be gone. after one reboot the phone has the same screen this gentlemans lady friend has. it looks like the app its looking for is no longer zip aligned properly. someone told me to rename a recovery image the error message to trick the bootloader into thinking the missing app is there. hes an app dev so i figured he knows whats what. ive tried everything the gentleman in this post said and more. hell i have two of these phones and rooted the other and made a backup of that phone and dragged the backup to an sd card and rebooted to see if any of the backed up system apks would trigger a successful reboot but to no avail. i have all the drivers i need and adb commands but nothing works because the phone doesnt stay connected to my pc long enough for anything. please reply with some knowledge. ive been scouring the web for at least a month. i was so happy when i came across this. i actually became a member just to post about this erroer (look up diabolus ae in the forum search field. my post is about 3 days old with a better pic of the screen message. i bought a galaxy s II but i want to give the lg to my son. please help or respond:cyclops:

diabolus ae said:
i used an app on the market to remove bloatware. i removed slacker and the app stated that after two reboots that everything would be fine and the app would be gone. after one reboot the phone has the same screen this gentlemans lady friend has. it looks like the app its looking for is no longer zip aligned properly. someone told me to rename a recovery image the error message to trick the bootloader into thinking the missing app is there. hes an app dev so i figured he knows whats what. ive tried everything the gentleman in this post said and more. hell i have two of these phones and rooted the other and made a backup of that phone and dragged the backup to an sd card and rebooted to see if any of the backed up system apks would trigger a successful reboot but to no avail. i have all the drivers i need and adb commands but nothing works because the phone doesnt stay connected to my pc long enough for anything. please reply with some knowledge. ive been scouring the web for at least a month. i was so happy when i came across this. i actually became a member just to post about this erroer (look up diabolus ae in the forum search field. my post is about 3 days old with a better pic of the screen message. i bought a galaxy s II but i want to give the lg to my son. please help or respond:cyclops:
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Normally, if you want to flash a custom recovery through fastboot, people will tell you to run 2 commands:
fastboot flash recovery nameofimagefile.img
fastboot reboot recovery
Since you don't have time to execute those 2 commands, you can tell it to just boot from the .img file, without flashing over your current recovery. (This is actually proper form, as you can test if the .img file works properly without damaging your existing recovery.) The way you do that is to 1st copy a recovery .img file to the root of your SD card, then execute the following 1 command:
fastboot boot nameofimagefile.img
Since you only have ~3 seconds, type the command in, and wait for the right instant to hit enter on the keyboard. If the command is successfully sent to the phone, it will reboot into that .img.
See if that works for you. Good luck.

Frozen on Google screen and recovery splash

Unlocked, rooted, TWRP, Cataclysm Final Lollipop (my phone never played nice with any MM ROM I tried, so I just went back to this and have been great ever since)
My phone has been rock stable for months, today I pull it out of my pocket and the screen is black. I turn it back on and it freezes on the Google screen with the unlock logo.
I can get into bootloader via power+voldown, but if I launch recovery it gets past the Google screen but then freezes on the TeamWin page.
Any suggestions, please? Searches intimate power button issues, but given I get no bootloops, I can turn the phone off reliably by holding the power button down, and it freezes at the same point consistently, it's hard for me to think that's the issue in my scenario, too. Thank you!

As an update, I used fastboot to successfully flash the newest version of TWRP, just to be sure, but it still gets stuck in the same spot, as does trying to boot normally.

Try flashing a stock ROM including userdata.img file.

audit13 said:
Try flashing a stock ROM including userdata.img file.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Is there any way to get my personal data off before I do this?
I guess beggars can't be choosers, but I'd hate to lose anything I don't have backed up already if it ends up being another issue after all (the power button, etc.).
A corrupted ROM can prevent a clean, freshly-installed recovery from launching properly?
Thanks again.

Try flashing different version of TWRP? Maybe one of them will allow you to mount the data partition and copy off your data.

While trying to flash the (stock) new system images, I keep getting "remote: flash write failure" and/or "remote: failed to erase partition." This is via a toolkit or manually via fastboot.
The bootloader remains unlocked through all this
It's especially odd, since now I'm getting it on my recovery partition, which I was able to write to earlier today.
A cursory search of this forum suggests I'm SOL unless I replace the whole motherboard, at which point I might as well get a new phone. Do you (all) concur?
Last ditch thought: I went jogging when it went dead--outside chance a connection to the memory on the motherboard got jostled and could be reattached? Or is it fried?
Continued thanks.

The memory is soldered into place but it is possible that something happened during your jog. I also jog with my nexus 5 for 20 to 30 km per week and have done so for the past year without any issues.