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Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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erishasnobattery said:
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
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The Maxx/Ultra run a very Vanillaish version of android which makes it really smooth and fast, not at all like the Razr HD. The camera is OK, not the best but they did just release a firmware update which improved the camera. Fwiw I have a Note II and a Maxx and the maxx is smoother and faster imho. While there isn't much development for the maxx you can get root and install recovery and used the xPosed framework which provides for some visual customization.
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The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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Picture-phile... That's a good one.... I take A LOT of pictures with my phone. It's just more convenient and the pictures are as good or better than any digital camera I've personally ever owned... TW on the Note 2 seems pretty important to me. I am probably one of the only people who actually USE the s-pen quite often and the way its built in to TW just works... I think based off what you've told me, I'm going to stick with my Note. I appreciate your fast responses. Have a great day.
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Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
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Not a Note 2 user here...buy I've had a GS3 since its launch day and just upgraded to a Maxx...I fell in love with the Maxx as soon as I started using it...
Development is a little scarce to say the least...but I almost don't even care...the stock performance beats the pants off any ROM/kernel/OC'ing I ever experienced on my GS3...
I do need to take the time to root this thing in the next couple of days but I dont even feel the desire for much else other than basic root functions...
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I was doing a comparison with my brother's N2 and my Maxx. This Maxx, with the LTE, was doing everything faster and smoother. Not once was his phone more responsive or as polished as the Maxx.
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
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Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Update: The Maxx just dropped to $449 off-contract today. Amazing deal IMO.
Currently have a Moto X Dev Edition, bought it back almost a year ago I believe. I like the phone but the camera sucks and the battery could be better. It's super slick and smooth, rarely have any issues with it except for Bluetooth from time to time. But I'm also already noticing a little bit of screen burn-in, and I'm not on my phone 24/7 either. I've always questioned Motorola's AMOLED screen quality, I had an S3 and S4 and those screens were great. Plus I miss having expandable memory so I don't have to stream all of my 20+ GB of music through Google Play Music...
Long story short, it's time to replace the X. I thought about the Turbo but the lack of voice/data usage, the marginally better camera, and reports of poor wifi reception are keeping me away, not to mention the brightness also is subpar. After having the S4 and all it's laggy problems, I said no more Samsung phones, but it seems the S5 is greatly improved. However I've always had my eye on the G3, seems like LG has stepped up their game. I also had the Rezound when it came out and it was probably one of the best phones I've owned, and I didn't know the M8 supported expandable memory, I thought it was built-in only. My choices right now are the One M8, S5, G3, and possibly the Note 4 but that's pushing the size limit a little bit. My only concern with the M8 is possibly battery life and the fact that it's a tall phone.
Thoughts?
Only down side of purchasing the m8 at this point is that it's been out quite awhile and the next version of this phone will be out shortly. Battery life is no concern as it does great. The camera is nothing to write home about so the g3 wins that battle. I don't like all the bezel on the m8. The screen size is rather small for how large the phone is. I've had a lot of different devices and it's been one of my favorites but its just hard to recommend a device getting close to being replaced with a newer version. If you have to have a phone right now I guess I'd say go check out the g3 and m8 in store and see what feels better to you. I wish the phone had a bigger display and a slimmer size but other than that is been a great device. The g3 does have a removable battery which is nice after six months or so once they start losing battery performance they can be replaced. I'm moving to the nexus 6 just waiting for my order to arrive.
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First off, I'll say that the camera on this phone is unfairly maligned just because it's only 4mp. Honestly, I've been very happy with it. Over Thanksgiving, my brother-in-law (who uses a 2013 Moto X) was blown away by how clear my photos were turning out compared to his. I'm pretty picky about cameras, and I've found very little to complain about with this phone.
I also owned the G3 for about a week before ultimately going back to the M8, and I gotta say, I really miss the larger screen. The overall quality of the G3's display isn't as good as the M8, but the size really makes a difference. One thing I don't miss about the G3 is how laggy it is compared to the M8. The G3's UI drops animation frames like it's going out of style, and it just doesn't feel as fast as it should. Then again, the M8 is easily the fastest-feeling device I've ever owned (even compared to the Nexus 5), so I guess I'm a little spoiled.
The M8 also has a much better in-hand feel in my opinion. One thing I couldn't stand about the G3 is how plasticky it feels.
That said, I'm still torn between the M8 and G3. I'll probably end up just sticking with the M8 for a while, but I'm seriously tempted to go back to the G3 just for the screen size if nothing else. Plus, based on videos I've seen, it looks like LG has mostly taken care of the G3's lag issues with the upcoming Lollipop update. So who knows what I'll end up doing.
I have LG G4 and thinking of switching to Moto X Play as I always was fan of Moto X.
Have you made similar switch? If so what phone from and what are your first impressions?
I am coming from 1+1 . I have had drop my phone flat on screen and shuttered . Was waiting for for nearly 2 months now to buy new phone ...somehow this phone lured me given price tag and all the goodies it has inside. Last but not least existing customer care.
I'm kind of torn between oneplus 2 and play. What's your impressions on the Moto?
I will only get my X Play tomorrow.
Zenfone 2. I'd love a phone with a better camera and battery life.
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Moto X 2014 (and now, temporarily, Moto G 2nd. edition).
I'm coming from a HTC M8- loving my X play so far.. especially with the great battery life.
Coming from a Verizon Note 3, a late 2013 phone, and I'm pretty neutral on this phone after using it for more than a week. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess I preferred Samsung's superAMOLED screen and camera software, and especially the dialer. Stock dialer is just painful. Feels better in the hand though, and having dual SIM (I have the XT-1563 unlocked version from Brazil) is a godsend when you're traveling. Battery / fast charging / camera are all decent but pretty much the same as my Note 3. Doesn't feel like an upgrade but it does the job.
Coming from a Nexus 5 paired to a Moto 360. With the Nexus 5, I would have to charge the phone in the middle of the day to last. With the MXP and paired to the M360, it definitely lasts the day.
Came from a Galaxy S6. So far doesn't feel like a downgrade.
Coming from the S5. The Moto X feels like a huge upgrade. I'm assuming its got a lot to do with the X shipping with near stock Android. :good:
My last phone was the xperia sp but am currently using the S3. Just ordered the Moto X Play and its arriving tomorrow! Cant wait!
I'm considering an upgrade from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a downgrade in performance. Any advice guys?
One plus 2
Loads of negatives with this phone and this included USBC is not main stream so I had to buy spare cables for work car etc. Battery life was abysmal even with the ota oxygen OS update. It ran hot. Finger print sensor was OK not as good a apples.
Overall not worth it since moving to moto x play in so much happier the battery is a massive plus and overall the OS is faster.
All being well I'll be picking up my moto x play from carphonewarehouse today.
I'm coming from a LG g2. Battery doesn't cut it for me and all the services you can't get rid of without rooting etc really gripes me.
So a stock android, better camera and battery should be good.
Now I just need to sell my g2 and my n5.....
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Coming from Oppo Find 7a (X9006).
My dear old Z1 is dying and I hope DHL delivers my new moto X play asap..
Had an HTC One M7 Dev Edition, now switched to Koodo with the Moto X Play. Everything about the Moto X Play feels better... it's responsive, has insane battery life (not to mention the turbo charger), the screen size feels just right and looks good too. I feel like the only downgrade would be the build materials -- the HTC One has a beautiful metal chassis. Build quality is still solid though, although I'm hoping to get a case soon so it doesn't get prematurely murdered in my black hole of a purse.
I don't game on my phone (I'm a PC gamer), but I am a power user. Even with a ton of apps open, the phone speed is snappy and it doesn't get too warm. I really like the "pure" android experience that Motorola gives. My HTC phone was heavily skinned and detracted from the experience (although it's not the worst offender... I'm looking at you, Touchwhiz). Another thing I wasn't expecting to use so much is the Moto Voice/Google Now features, but it has come in handy a lot. Plus I now say goodnight to my phone, and it goes to sleep.
One creepy but pretty cool feature is the fact that the Moto X Play is ALWAYS picking up on what you're doing with the Google Now "assistant". It figured out where I lived after less than 24 hours, and it tells me what the traffic is like to get to work. I've had smartphones for years, but they've never been this "smart".
I haven't played around with the camera much, but it looks to be pretty decent from what I've read.
The fact of the matter is, most people don't need the expensive flagship phones anymore. Koodo sells the Moto X Play off contract for only $410 including the turbo charger, compared to $700+ for high range phone. I'd argue that specs are becoming less and less important as the software evolves. Unless you are a hardcore mobile gamer (do they exist??), need a space grey chassis, or just like to brag about having the best phone eva, everyone should consider the Moto X Play and so-called mid-range phones like it.
Had oneplus one before, but the software was buggy so I changed to huawei ascend mate 7. Huawei are too big phone for me so that's reason I'm going back for a 5.5 inch phone, moto x play. Like the way moto get updates and it's as near the real stock android experience. Looking forward for the android updates faster. This as near I will come my old Lg nexus 5. The best of two worlds.
Coming from a Zenfone 5 and looks like battery of my X Play will never end. My Zenfone was with an average 2h SOT and X Play go easily over 6h SOT.
I can either get a Pixel XL in March or pick up a Pixel 128GB (black) tomorrow... Seems to me it's a no-brainer. I'm used to large phones though (LG V20 currently, Note 5 prior).
(1) Has anyone been upset they chose the small screen? Have XL jealousy?
(2) How is the screen quality since it's not QHD?
(3) Anyone who used to have large phones, how has the transition been for you?
Thanks so much in advance!!
I came from a Nexus 6 so the difference is pretty massive between the two.
1. While I would've liked the XL I didn't want to wait two months for it, so I settled and I am envious of it but am fine with the smaller one.
2. I can't tell a difference, in fact I think it looks better than the Nexus 6.
3. The transition was pretty easy, although I still have difficulty typing but over time it'll get better, although it's been about a month already.
I had the xl. Used to have a 6p. The ratio of bezel on it killed it for me. Huge phone small screen it seemed. Grabbed regular pixel. Zero regrets. Fit in hand is perfect and bezels are less noticeable. Glad I made the switch.
After going from the Nexus 6 to the Nexus 6P, I decided to go smaller and get the regular Pixel. I have had the phone since launch and have absolutely no regrets. The Pixel is the perfect size, in my opinion. after spending considerable time using this phone on a daily basis, I wouldn't want a phone any larger than this.
No regrets here, loving the Pixel!
Was actually starting to not like the larger screen phones, although they are easier on the eyes, the bulk started bothering me.
No regrets! I came from a 5.2" device, and I liked that size. Sizeable but not unwieldy, and it fit in all pockets, if barely. My 5" Pixel with a reasonably slim case is about the same size and heft as the 5.2" was with no case.
Personally, I would not have purchased the XL unless I knew I'd be spending a lot of time/money on VR. I think the XL is the clear choice in that case. But the extra size, weight and money isn't worth it to me otherwise.
VERY happy with the Pixel.
ETA: screen quality looks great. The live earth wallpapers, especially, look amazing.
My last like 4 or 5 devices have been larger phones (note 4, iPhone pluses, Nexus 6) so it is a bit to get used to going to a smaller form factor. But I don't regret it. Like others have said I'd have to wait a while for the XL and I kinda wanted to try a smaller phone again. It has a 1920x1080 screen so that was the important thing for me.
So, still adjusting to it, but no regrets.
Honestly love feel and performance of Pixel. I came from several Note's including the 7 and most recent an S7E. I prefer larger phones and I actually have an XL 128 on order since Dec 7. Likely will sell the regular Pixel when I get the XL, but honestly it impressed the heck out of me. Almost perfect size/feel in hand, talks great and screen looks awesome. Only complaint for me is the keyboard is a bit smallish for me and sometimes I hit wrong buttons. That and the actual look of two-tone back and large chin bezel are not that ascetically pleasing to me.
Another size convert here. I've had 5.5"+ devices for the last few years. I really enjoy a smaller form factor but am still getting used to the smaller keyboard. The only 1080p display is great, battery is fine too. I'm very content with the normal Pixel and have no regrets.
My last three phones were s6 edge+, s7 edge, axon7. I loved the s7e and a7. That being said no regrets and I've found I've enjoyed the speed and fluidity of this phone.
I wanted the xl but they were backordered. Now that pure nexus ROM is here I'm happy. I switch phones a lot so my plan is to pay the pixel off and buy the g6 this spring.
Came from a 6P, before that LG G4, the HTC One 9, all big phones. The last phone I've had this size was the LG G2. I was getting tired of the weight and awkwardness, not fitting smaller pockets and clumsy in the hands, despite having large ones.
Like most others here, I don't regret it, though I thought I might. I find I have to use my glasses just the same amount in the same circumstances as the 6P. So in websites mostly. But I use my phones to read books, and in Moonreader Pro and Kindle, I'm able to read without glasses just as comfortably as on my 6P. So I was thinking my big screens were helping me, but surprisingly, they really weren't (as much as I thought, anyway). Rather have the more comfortable size in that case.
As far as the Pixel line itself, it's the best device I've owned thus far! Not necessarily the hardware, but the whole Pixel experience.
I'm usually into rooting and modding, but this phone I haven't even unlocked the bootloader. I did unlock developer in settings and flip the switch to allow unlocking, for my safety. The only phone I ever hard bricked was the G4, and it was from a botched OTA, so I definitely want the ability to flash stock images if needed.
The screen quality seems good to me, but the only poor ones I've had are iPhones, so I'm not really picky on that.
Hope this helps.
Thanks everyone! I ended up getting the Pixel. Waiting until March is just insane. So far, it's taking some adjustment but I'm not regretting it yet. I love how it fits in my hand, it's just the little things like not reaching far for the fingerprint scanner (like on larger phones with rear scanners) and smaller text. It's a little harder to type too, but I'll adjust. Overall, amazed with the phone! Thanks so much for giving me confidence in my purchase!
My only regret about not getting the XL is Daydream looks pretty bad, but that's not a huge issue considering it's nothing more than a toy I use occasionally at this point. Size in hand is great, battery is great performance is great, display quality (other than Daydream) is great. Don't wait until March just to get the XL IMO.
Edit: whoops you beat me to posting glad you got the Pixel.
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Thanks everyone! I ended up getting the Pixel. Waiting until March is just insane. So far, it's taking some adjustment but I'm not regretting it yet. I love how it fits in my hand, it's just the little things like not reaching far for the fingerprint scanner (like on larger phones with rear scanners) and smaller text. It's a little harder to type too, but I'll adjust. Overall, amazed with the phone! Thanks so much for giving me confidence in my purchase!
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You can change the text size. Affects the status bar text too, or maybe that was the display size adjustment. Since I was using my HTC 10 until the PureNexus ROM came out on the Pixel, I have limited experience with stock, so I know the options are available on PureNexus but I believe they were available on stock too.
FWIW, I only got the Pixel 32 GB to play with, and because Best Buy had them for $240 outright (either via payments or pay it off right after) versus Verizon's deal at the time where you paid full monthly payments and they gradually credited you back the difference. I had already ordered two HTC 10s for my wife and I the day before I was made aware of Best Buy's deal. I have a 128 GB MicroSD card with a ton of music in the 10, so we'll see how using the Pixel 32 GB as my daily driver works out. I don't have unlimited data.
Now that PureNexus is out, I've regained interest in someday acquiring a 128 GB XL. The 10 is "big enough" at 5.2" I believe but my LG G3 was 5.5" display and I thought that was perfect, although wouldn't want anything bigger than that. I'm not willing to spend $1100 on Swappa to get one, though, nor even $800-$900 retail. There's no way that's worth it to me.
Bought the pixel only because the XL 128gb was not available and I needed a 128gb phone. However, a month using the pixel now and I dont have any regrets, its actually nice being able to use a phone 1 handed as I came from 5.5inch phones previously.
Came from the 6p...took a little getting used to a slightly smaller keyboard but no regrets.
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Been using Nexus for a few years now. I purchased the HTC 10 and used it for a couple of months and really enjoyed the size of this device. I knew that HTC was going to be makng the next Nexus, (Pixel) so I was testing HTC. My Last Nexus was the N5 that I have used for the past 3 years. I purchased the Pixel and the size was very similar to my N5. I just needed a bigger screen. Sold my Pixel on swappa and Purchased and am currently on my XL and I have no regrets. My Wife who will not listen to me about getting away from contracts and using Straight Talk. I have been using straight talk for years and I have had no issues. She Is getting Her Verizon Pixel XL tomorrow. I will be unlocking her bootlooder with dePixel8 before connecting to the network. She is on an orriginal Droid Turbo android 5. Verizon never updated the phone to Android 6.
When they were first announced my intention was to get the XL but I did go back and forth before I eventually pulled the trigger on it. The improved screen and battery life are cool but I thought 5.5" may be oversized even coming from a 5.2" 5X. I love VR though and as I get increasingly obsessed the improved per-eye density from the XL will be a nice bonus. They're the best two phones on the market but I'm confident I chose the one that more closely suits my needs.
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I can either get a Pixel XL in March or pick up a Pixel 128GB (black) tomorrow... Seems to me it's a no-brainer. I'm used to large phones though (LG V20 currently, Note 5 prior).
(1) Has anyone been upset they chose the small screen? Have XL jealousy?
(2) How is the screen quality since it's not QHD?
(3) Anyone who used to have large phones, how has the transition been for you?
Thanks so much in advance!!
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1) I only really handled the XL a couple times in stores, and as well as the iphone 7 plus (similar screen size to pixel XL). I thought they felt not terribly bulky, but I didn't want to have to stretch at all just to hold my phone. My biggest qualm was coming from Moto X (2nd gen) which has a slightly larger screen size, it was a bit annoying how much bezel was on the pixel in general. I thought I might dislike having a smaller screen; but it hasn't been terribly noticeable.
2) No qualms with screen quality, just wish it had a larger screen size (without the larger phone)... I just really wish google hadn't tried to mimic one of the worst things about iPhones with that bezel, that pointless bezel.
3) Can't really speak much about this, beyond my experience with the Moto X, which by today's standards isn't a large phone.
The point of this post is just to share my thoughts about the direction Motorola has taken with flagships. After using this phone for more than a year I can conclude:
Besides near stock Android and Turbo charging, the phone is mediocre at best. I have never felt as good as what i felt with my previous flagships (a Oneplus One).
The Battery life is way below average. After using the phone for a year the battery has really started to show its age and its not lasting as long as it should.
Another annoying issue I noticed is the fact that Motorola implements almost the same design language for their lower end G series and X series. Apart from the size, someone who isn't a tech geek can easily mistake my Pure for a lower end Motorola phone. The new Z series has fixed this, but again it would be difficult for the uninitiated to tell the difference between a Moto Z Play and the more premium Moto Z. Samsung, LG, HTC, Xiaomi go to great lengths to ensure that their flagships stand out and look very different from the budget phones.
I dont think i need to mention the fact that ever since Lenovo has taken over, the update wait time has increased a great deal, new reports suggest that the Pure will only get Noughat in May 2017
The developers that choose to work on the Pure deserve a lot of credit, but the fact is that a lot of developers chose to develop for other devices rather than the Pure.
A lot of accessory manufacturers decided that the moto X Pure didn't deserve any attention. To find a decent case was not very easy, (I especially missed using a Spigen case) and the fact that there is not a single working tempered Screen glass protector proves this. (I know the Pleson works almost 100% but its not available freely in all countries neither is it perfect.)
In conclusion I'm pretty sure this will be my last Motorola phone simply because it would be smarter to spend a little more and get a Galaxy, and with phones like the Oneplus 3T it makes little sense to buy a phone like the Moto Z which is priced considerably higher.
Would love to hear from other people what they think and if they are going to stay loyal to Motorola.
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The point about sharing design with mid range Moto phones is dope. People often ask if it's a Moto X Play or a Moto G 3rd Gen and then we need to tell them it's X Style ??
Well ... I understand your point of view, but what I think is that you chose badly the device, since you found him "mediocre at best"
The points listed:
Comparing the most powerful AND STABLE 32-bit processor to the second in line of Qualcomm's 64-bit generation SOC's with new architecture and everything else, I believe to be extremely wrong, since after the SD810 fiasco the creation of the SD808 was the fix the company used (and i think it was a good one, but this is something mostly disagree with me '^^)
About the OnePlus One, it is really a beast phone with the SD801 (the 32bits GOD) and i understand that you had a remarkable experience with it, since i had (now it is with my girlfriend) an Xperia Z3 with the same SD801 as the OnePlus One i understand when you say it was a more fluid usage, since i think the same, but... I don't think you can compare something that is pretty stable with some new technology.
I never had any problems with the battery because i use as a normal phone and i play games only at home and waiting in lines (bank/medic/...), it gives me something next to 18 hours (stock ROM/kernel) of use with 3 hour SOT or 7 to 8 hours SOT when i use it to watch movies/series/animes in my bed, mostly at weekends. Through the week i unplug it from charger at 6:30, go to work, and at 18:00 i go back home (40 ~ 35% left), the weekend is always a mess for battery stats,
As for the design I don’t have much to say, because I find it very beautiful, and being same design language is a plus for me, i like to have a “invisible phone” in the croud, only people that asks me what is my phone should know the answer.
Now the two really bad points ...
As for Lenovo acquiring Motorola, I fully agree that it was dumb, at least it should keep Motorola working as it always did.
And the lack of smartphone accessories really is laughable
We can keep talking about it, but i really think is a good phone and the testing Nougat ROM's are amazing, i can't wait for the official Nougat update.
btw all samsungs look the same too, comapre new A series with S: very simmilar glass on glass design.
other than that, you're right there are some dissapoitments but it's not real flagship phone, it's more like very good mid-end device, It was never priced like a flagship so don't expect it to be real flagship - that's my opinion. OPO is a differen't story, they managed to get price down with other ways like it's distribution, services ect.
It is a flagship phone. Why would you think otherwise? SD 8xx, 5.7" 2K screen, 21 MP back camera, etc. Upon release the starting price for 16gb was $399, while most mid range phones hit at $250-$300. At this point, nearly 2 years later, it could be considered a mid range but that is because hardware moves forward.
As to my thoughts: I think this is a great phone, even now. I run unrooted stock and pretty much it is a Nexus device with a few extras for customization thrown via Moto apps. These apps are few and I appreciate that they add actual additional features and not just replicate what Android and Google actually does already. The phone runs smooth, has a good camera for good lighting, and handles everything I throw at it. I will admit that battery life could be better, but it is acceptable and at least the turbo charge makes up for this shortcoming. I don't regret this purchase, even if the update process is dismal.
Update: I have hit the end of my warranty period, so I unlocked the bootloader and rooted. I have applied my favorite rooted apps and settings (Xposed, amplify, Greenify, TiBu to disable/uninstall certain apps and services, BBS to track wakelocks, and AdAway) so hopefully I will see improved battery life.
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Znomon said:
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
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I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Note 2 holdout here too . I'm just finishing up my first week since the upgrade and am quite pleased so far. I have the feeling that the MXPE is going to be a good low maintenance, long haul phone that I can get a few good years of service out of without too much hand-holding, just like with the Note. And with a nice, bright LCD screen instead of Led, I won't ever have to worry about burn-in or custom kernels to help correct green tint; pretty much everything just works. In fact, there's a ton of features that used to require a special app or a custom rom on the Note 2 that are built right in to the X, so there was a lot less effort required out-of-the-box to get everything to work, and on the stock Rom, no less! Even tethering works on the stock rom, which is something that I've never seen on any smartphone in my life.
Comparing the battery life of the two devices, I have yet to conclude any formal tests, but so far, the Pure Edition looks like it's going to be delivering 3-4 hours of screen-on time at best, while the Note 2 delivered as much as 4-5 hours on a good day. That said, I used that phone much more conservatively, so that could have something to do with it, but overall, the runtime of the Pure Edition isn't looking all that great. I think it's just got too much power for its own good, and when you combine that with a ludicrously-high screen resolution, (which demands more effort to render those high-resolution fonts and animations) it strains the CPU and GPU more. Time will tell if things improve after I settle in with it.
Overall I am happy with my X pure, though I share some of the others gripes.
Pros
-Screen
-Above average camera
-Good front camera with flash
-Good CPU, 3GB RAM
-front speakers
-no complaint on call quality
-Sd card slot - I have a 64GB card split as 20GB adopted and 40GB external
-moto ROM is near stock
-Moto features are well done (lock screen notifications)
-Simple unlock/root process
-GSM & CDMA = yes on VZ
-Quich charge 2
-understated design (I like it, others not as much)
- PRICE for these features unmatched
Cons
-Gets hot under load
-Battery life could be better - depends on how much I use it. GPS OFF helps. QC is a necessity with this phone
- lack of choice for accessories
- curved back - one handed is a chore and can't use on the table face up. It does feel nice to hold for a call though.
Other
- upgrade cycle has been slower than some would like. However it still exists at least. Other phones would be dead by now, this one is still alive.
Overall, Pros outweigh the cons and there is a lot for me to love about this phone.
I think I have been spoiled, because I'm finding it hard to find a device to upgrade to without sacrifices. The only phones I would consider are the Pixel and Moto G4 and one is expensive and the other underpowered.
well, i did the poll but i did it as a yes i would buy another, with condition of course.
i came from the original disappointed motorola fans, the Photon 4G fan. back then... it was the photon of the era. It had the ability to work as a PC, GSM capabilities, 4G wimax and at the time was the best performance with dual core 1 gigahertz and qHD. really a prime of a phone at that time compared to the S2 and the evo. cyanogenmod came out and did wonders on that phone because moto blur was so trashy. Then... the worst happened. Sprint ordered motorola to lock down the bootloader to 2.3.6 which is severely locked and no modifications were allowed to be done anymore. those who were lucky to not have 2.3.6 were able to mod to ICS but those who had 2.3.6 had to bootstrap the phone to work with cyanogenmod and that even was a piss poor attempt at making it work.
now i buy the moto x pure with alot of resentment from the photon but after hearing the reviews is when i bought it. after plagues of hardware problems with hte nexus 5 i simply needed a way to go back and the best device was the moto x. i was so sure i wanted this phone i custom ordered it (after reading rave reviews), i ordered the black leather with red accent 64 gig with 2 years protection. with over a year on this phone... i will admit i still love it.
there were a few hardware problems but i do have the 2 year protection and they did repair it for me... replaced the screen and the battery and wireless modules. i since then have not had problems with it (and believe they remedied the issues that i had with the older devices). i own an HTC M9, and my sister has the s7 edge. the only thing i like about the m9 is the dolby atmos and the carrier aggregation (hoping for a wireless update for the X). other than that... my phone is still superior despite older technology.
why?
i love my moto x because of the moto display. my absolute favorite! i also love the flash light and camera gestures.
the camera works great, signal is still better than most other phones, it barely crashes, the speakers still work very well, still speedy, turbo charge is still an amazing product and i bought the car charger for it. battery had 90 mins on screen time and still has 41% battery and i like the fact its unlocked gsm. i tried freedom pop a few weeks ago and i put that sim in. switched over quickly and it worked great then when i was done... i put my sprint sim back in and it worked just as great too.
the reason i dont see much to switch to however is because samsung, LG, and HTC hasnt really enticed me yet as to why their phone is better. samsung i have to see what will make them different... but LG really hasnt enticed me and im curious on what HTC does, though im not a metal phone fan (feel the feraday cage idea disintegrates the signal, IMO). Pixel is nice... but i simply dont have the money.
what would make me switch to another phone...
1) 4 gig of ram (preferably 6 gigs)
2) HPUE has to be baked in for Sprint LTE at a minimum but 5 channel aggregation would be amazing, AND GSM UNLOCKED
3) best camera software
4) minimum 5.5 inch screen
5) battery that will last for full 24 hours without need of charge or quick charge 4.0 with dual pol
6) shatter resistance and waterproof
for now... the moto x meets my demands without incremental improvements until i see whats next. hopefully a moto z successor that actually works on sprint
In the 2 years it has been out the update cycle has been slower than Samsung's Motorola did not deliver on the support side the main selling point they had with this device was it was going to be similar to the Nexus upgrade cycle well my warranty was up before the first update came out... In addition to the fiasco that is accessories for this phone I am really regretting not going with the LG v10
I don't know why everyone still complains about the accessories. This was never a mainstream device since it was completely carrier independent and sold unlocked. The previous Moto X (and Moto G) line was sold as both branded and unlocked so they were actually seen at pretty much any company that sold cellular service. For those looking for contract or payment plan pricing, they could get it from the carrier. With limited visibility, and the lack of payment plans through carriers the Pure was just not that popular. Companies that make accessories are going to focus on popular selling phones first as that is where they will make the most money... At least we have some options.
I sold my Moto X Pure to buy a Google Pixel XL.
If I were to sell the Pixel XL, then the Moto X Pure is the only phone I'd consider buying.
It was the best all-around phone I've ever had.
I'd even go with it over the new OnePlus 3 second edition or Galaxy S7 variants.
Regardless of price.
Moto Z. lmao what a stinker that phone is compared to Moto X Pure.
Unless you want pretty. Then you shouldn't even be on XDA if that's all you care about.
Interesting comments. I've been a Nexus owner for years, with the 6P being my prior phone. It became my prior phone due to the all too common Boot Loop of Death (BLOD) that seems to be impacting more and more owners. While Huawei did replace it with a refurb'ed model, not in mint shape like the one I sent, but it did come back with 128g instead of the 32g I sent. The battery is terrible as compared with the MXPE, I've been through most of the custom roms/kernels and nothing has really helped and I don't do social media nor play games on it. The built in features of the Moto really impressed me, they are actually functional and add value. The Moto Display is excellent as is the voice recognition of the Moto voice. The bluetooth stack seems to have issues (with me at least), my cell signal is a bit worse and the lack of updates is sad.
I've considered the Pixel, but the price is insane and after having the Pixel features on the 6P I'm happy with the Moto.
When I got my 6P back, it took about a week to change my sim back to it from the Moto, I put it back in the Moto the next day and don't plan on taking it out.
I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
3. The camera now fails to operate because of a "lack of disk space" -- although I have more than 24GB available.
Like you, I will never buy another Motorola phone.
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I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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I've had issues with static, but only on some select 3.5mm plugs. I just figure it was that specific plug itself.
Have had no issues with my SanDisk plus. I use it as removable storage and not as adopted storage. But going back to your statement, I have owned a multiple phones and have noticed some don't play well with certain brands of cards but do well with others. I'm not sure why this is but it does happen.
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
Times have changed
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I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
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Newer versions of Android (and their apps, along with the stock Rom apparently) are not nearly as frugal with the 16GB of storage as the Note2 was. I'm already at 7.8/9.6GB used with just a basic load of apps and data (music is on the card and camera photos are also directed to be stored there) on the MXPE.
For comparison, my Note2 has a massive load of software & data, plus a ton of camera photos, all on the main storage volume, and only 6.26GB out of the total 10.95GB available are used.
All that to say that 16GB used to be plenty, but "modern" software is just too bloated for that. If I do upgrade phones anytime in the next ~2 years, it'll probably be to a larger Moto X Pure Edition, but for now, that 64GB MicroSD card should be plenty adequate.