stock recovery+Titanium Backup or custom recovery - General Questions and Answers

Is there a necessity to install a custom recovery when I'm running on stock rom? (never changing to custom)
If I factory reset my phone and try to restore everything, only titanium backup is needed right? the system apps are the same so titanium backup would restore them. In this case is a custom recovery necessary?
I'm on android 4.4 and rooted but bootloader is locked. I understand the differences of titanium backup and custom recovery but I wanna know if custom recovery is needed on devices with stock rom+titanium backup

Curry bbang said:
Is there a necessity to install a custom recovery when I'm running on stock rom? (never changing to custom)
If I factory reset my phone and try to restore everything, only titanium backup is needed right? the system apps are the same so titanium backup would restore them. In this case is a custom recovery necessary?
I'm on android 4.4 and rooted but bootloader is locked. I understand the differences of titanium backup and custom recovery but I wanna know if custom recovery is needed on devices with stock rom+titanium backup
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If you are rooted then yes its always a good idea to have custom recovery so you can make a nandroid backup of your stock setup, then if later you have issues that you can't get straight you can restore the nandroid and be back to normal, nandroid backups are backups of your entire device, titanium backup only backs up user data(apps you've installed, app data, contacts, pics, videos, music and things like that).
Titanium backup does not back up your boot, modem, system or recovery partitions and those are the important parts, the stuff titanium backup only saves non essential stuff.
If you don't install custom recovery and you have issues then your only option would be factory reset or reflashing stock firmware, these would wipe any data that you want to keep.

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[Q] (Clockwork Mod) What is Nandroid Backup and How Does it Work?

This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
From my understanding, the backup backs up all the stuff on your phone EXCEPT for what's on the SD card.
The idea is that you do a back up. Then install a new rom that you want to try out. BUt you don't like it, so you just restore the backup and woolah! your old phone is back along with all your settings, data, etc.
I'm not sure why it's called a nandroid backup, but from what I gather, you can do it with clockworkmod, just boot into recovery. And use the backup and restore option.
That was my understanding as well. I just wasn't sure on the situation with the user data (or the backup in general really). So all it takes is a nandrid backup to revert back to (rooted) stock?
A Android backup takes all the files on your device and saves them as a data.img,system.I mg,cache.I mg,user data,and recovery.img. It is also restorable through fastboot. It can also get you out of a tough spot. Say you are messing with a new theme and it causes your device not to boot up or causes unwanted problems. You can restore a backup to a time when your device was working correctly.
saintmagician said:
From my understanding, the backup backs up all the stuff on your phone EXCEPT for what's on the SD card.
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this is true unless you do a nandroid+android_secure backup. this also backs up your external app data
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes you're correct. You can restore but just remember some app might have ext data in sdcard. If you don't delete it, when you restore you'll get the same as before
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rootfan said:
A Android backup takes all the files on your device and saves them as a data.img,system.I mg,cache.I mg,user data,and recovery.img. It is also restorable through fastboot. It can also get you out of a tough spot. Say you are messing with a new theme and it causes your device not to boot up or causes unwanted problems. You can restore a backup to a time when your device was working correctly.
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So if you want to restore say just your data can you just delete the images you do not wish to restore from the backup folder and it will just keep the ones you have? Or won't it work at all if you start deleting images?
rfp101 said:
So if you want to restore say just your data can you just delete the images you do not wish to restore from the backup folder and it will just keep the ones you have? Or won't it work at all if you start deleting images?
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i wouldnt tamper with a nandroid backup, but if you have clockwordmod recovery, that is possible. clockwordmod recovery gives you the option to restore one of those images (but only one at a time).
does a nandroid backup include your kernel?
Pender1 said:
does a nandroid backup include your kernel?
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It does! It's a compelete "snapshot" of your phone with all apps/settings etc.
Does it also backup the stuff which has been stored on the external ext2-Partition, which is mounted to enlarge the space for apps?
Same with restore of this nandroid-backup. Will it also place the backup again to the same space?
As I know there's a (symbolic) link put into /data which might get problems.
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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its back up all yore staff and programs so if u will back to the backup it eill be exactly the same as beafore
If you install another ROM with different kernel and then you want to go back to nandroid backup, does it work ?
Nandroid backups
I was wondering if the framework is saved as well. I recently updated to the ICS firmware and am wondering if I restore with a backup from the old GB firmware will that be restored as well or will it still stay on the ICS? From my understanding ICS firmware will run previous versions
will nandroid backup (made from cwm) un-brick your phone if say, you installed a custom rom via cwm and it bricked it?
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes,It restores all data and apps nandroid backup is a mirror copy of your phone.after restoring you will get your previous stock ROM.
cheebs42 said:
I was wondering if the framework is saved as well. I recently updated to the ICS firmware and am wondering if I restore with a backup from the old GB firmware will that be restored as well or will it still stay on the ICS? From my understanding ICS firmware will run previous versions
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Interesting question. Anyone?
Snake X said:
will nandroid backup (made from cwm) un-brick your phone if say, you installed a custom rom via cwm and it bricked it?
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im not sure, i think nandroid backup will unbrick your phone as long as you can boot to recovery. atleast when i installed a roms pach it didnt fully boot, got stuck at bootanimation, no loop, just froze, then i got it back with nandroid backup
I have the latest CWM 5.xxx, but there is no Nandroid backup option.
but only those below';
- backup and restore and under it
- backup
- restore
- advanced restore
- backup to internal sd card
- advanced restore from internal sdcard
Where is NANDROID Backup?
sas_sas said:
I have the latest CWM 5.xxx, but there is no Nandroid backup option.
but only those below';
- backup and restore and under it
- backup
- restore
- advanced restore
- backup to internal sd card
- advanced restore from internal sdcard
Where is NANDROID Backup?
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all the options with the word backup are.
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Best multiple ROM practice when using TWRP

Hello forums,
I have a rooted One running the latest official update version 44S with TWRP recovery. I am interested in flashing an Android Lollipop port (the one made from CM12 dailies). If I don't want to lose all my app data permanently (I know several resets and erases are necessary to swap ROMs), how can I back it up and then restore it once I've upgraded? Can I keep a backup of my current ROM/apps through the various resets necessary (just in case of big issues or bootloops)? FYI all my backups include system and data, but not cache.
Thanks to any help in advance!
If you're only backing up system and data, your phone will never boot when you restore the backup, you need to backup boot as well. You should always keep at least one backup on your phone at all times, just in case things go wrong. Unless you wipe your internal storage (which you don't need to do) you won't lose your backup. In regards to your user apps, just use Titanium Backup to back them up and then you can restore them after flashing a ROM.
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ho to backup original ROM

I still have the original ROM. I have rooted it.
Before installing Malaysk's ROM i wish to backup the original
I know i can use Nandroid to backup. BUT should i choose TWRP or clockwordmod Backup?
And does the recovery of the unit support restore from this kind of backups?
Nomader0 said:
I still have the original ROM. I have rooted it.
Before installing Malaysk's ROM i wish to backup the original
I know i can use Nandroid to backup. BUT should i choose TWRP or Cyanogen Backup?
And does the recovery of the unit support restore from this kind of backups?
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How would you install a custom recovery like TWRP? Is there a specific one to our devices?
That is exactly my question..
while with nandroid backup you can backupe yourn ROM in two formats (TWRP and clockwordmod), my question is how do you restrore from these backup files since we can not install TWRP or clockwordmod..
My qustion is whether the factory recovery can restore from these backups

Query regarding Nandroid backup

Hello,
I'm currently running stock oos, rooted.
I need to know if I wish to flash a custom rom now and take a nandroid backup from twrp of the current rom , what all partitions do I take a backup of.
Also, if I wish to come back to oos, do I need to flash oos twice in recovery and then restore the backup taken earlier for oos, or just wipe data and restore backup without flashing oos twice.
Thanks in advance!

How to backup

Is it possible to do any kind of backup on a full stock phone? Because it seems that EFS backup needs root, NANDroid need custom recovery. Root or custom recovery need unlocking. Unlocking need to wipe everything. Kind of a loop here

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