SONY XPERIA Z3 fatal problem !! HELP ME !! - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello people , I have a huge problem , I hope someone of you can help , in fact I have a Sony XPERIA Z3 . Today, after a rather silly procedure attempting to install CM 12 I accidentally wiped the entire partition of the device , and the device can not even turn over , and we PC does not recognize the device when you connect to a PC , although I installed all drivers and cell phone is properly dealt with these drivers before this accident , going to the service is not an option , please save me thanks

TomiZD said:
Hello people , I have a huge problem , I hope someone of you can help , in fact I have a Sony XPERIA Z3 . Today, after a rather silly procedure attempting to install CM 12 I accidentally wiped the entire partition of the device , and the device can not even turn over , and we PC does not recognize the device when you connect to a PC , although I installed all drivers and cell phone is properly dealt with these drivers before this accident , going to the service is not an option , please save me thanks
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The main problem is that device do not show that Is even charging when is connected to power.........

This morning when I plugged a mobile phone to a PC red LED turned on or after that absolutely nothing , I was unable to launch mobile phone in the FlashBoot mode , please help

TomiZD said:
This morning when I plugged a mobile phone to a PC red LED turned on or after that absolutely nothing , I was unable to launch mobile phone in the FlashBoot mode , please help
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Did you try flashtool??

titijuli said:
Did you try flashtool??
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Hmm but how ? When windows dont see phone on usb when I connect it ?

but, did you try?
also there is a yellow button in the right tap, pressing it for 120 seconds resets the phone, but don't think it can be useful for you at the moment...

titijuli said:
but, did you try?
also there is a yellow button in the right tap, pressing it for 120 seconds resets the phone, but don't think it can be useful for you at the moment...
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Hmmm yes I did try it, but nothing happened, is there any way to flash it somehow even the phone can not turn on?

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Xperia Miro Hard Brick ?

Well , I didn flash any rom or kernel recently . After i turn off my phone , i noticed that i cant boot my phone (even fastboot or cwm ) . When i on my phone , it didn show any led light or vibrate . I also charged my phone overnight and remove the battery for a few hours . Can anyone help :crying:
Im on gamerz v2 Vengeance 1.46
Try flashing the stock ROM through the Flashtool, by, while connecting the phone to the PC, holding the - Volume key.
WhiteHawkgrr said:
Try flashing the stock ROM through the Flashtool, by, while connecting the phone to the PC, holding the - Volume key.
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I cant enter flashmode too :crying:
paranoid android 3.0
CaramelPudding said:
I cant enter flashmode too :crying:
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i'm not good at english. If i am wrong fix me please!
are u using paranoid android rom?
Press volume - and plug the usb. If green led shows then you are in flashmode.
Did you try this? If green led works then your device is not hard bricked
Sent from my ST23i
Problem Fixed . Thanks For The Reply :fingers-crossed:
How to fix it?
i have the same problem,how to fix it mate?:crying:
c4cyro said:
Press volume - and plug the usb. If green led shows then you are in flashmode.
Did you try this? If green led works then your device is not hard bricked
Sent from my ST23i
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Currently in facing the same problem.. i tried volume - + usb but no green light or flashtool detection. help me!!! :crying:
maybe drivers are not properly installed.
and remember..
flashmode= vol- and usb (green led)
fastboot mode=vol+ and usb(blue led)
CaramelPudding said:
Well , I didn flash any rom or kernel recently . After i turn off my phone , i noticed that i cant boot my phone (even fastboot or cwm ) . When i on my phone , it didn show any led light or vibrate . I also charged my phone overnight and remove the battery for a few hours . Can anyone help :crying:
Im on gamerz v2 Vengeance 1.46
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I have the same problem, even sony pc companion can't detect the phone. help please. my phone has no signal of life ::crying:
help!
CaramelPudding said:
Problem Fixed . Thanks For The Reply :fingers-crossed:
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how you fixed this?now i has same problem hard bricked xperia miro?pls help me if you can?
Zeus flash device...
Even one of my customers has got a dead miro. i tried connecting in flashboot mode as well as fastboot mode, but no LED Lights come. Also...my device is getting detected as ZEUS FLASH DEVICE.... i googled it for drivers, but in vain .....what can be done?
chintu_2000 said:
Even one of my customers has got a dead miro. i tried connecting in flashboot mode as well as fastboot mode, but no LED Lights come. Also...my device is getting detected as ZEUS FLASH DEVICE.... i googled it for drivers, but in vain .....what can be done?
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dude forget about it , i ve faced the same problem with my miro & i tried everything even jtag didn't work anyway it ended up selling it for 10 bucks as it is completley useless and the only way to repair it is to change the mother board which will cost a lot of money , anyway good luck:good:
I just remove the battery , sim , sd card , and leave my phone idle for a few days /a week
after idle for a few days , i charge my phone with wall charger agn , and my phone boots
Thats all , hope it helps .

Xperia J bricked plz help :/

Hi all! I have a big problem and i need your help.My xj was on alien room and riches kernel i think. My storages was been swapped like in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346389. So the problem came when i delete my sd content in phone storage menu, and in privacy menu i did data and factory reset than showed that phone is rebooting and after that my phone don't booted again.Pushed power button but nothing, connected to pc and showed that my device is unknown and can't use flashtools or something. Connected to a wall charger but phone looks like not charging at all becouse no led light. Tried reset thingies but nothing vibrates. So it is goodbye for my lover or i can give him life ?. Please help i don't know what to do
Tommasoo said:
Hi all! I have a big problem and i need your help.My xj was on alien room and riches kernel i think. My storages was been swapped like in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346389. So the problem came when i delete my sd content in phone storage menu, and in privacy menu i did data and factory reset than showed that phone is rebooting and after that my phone don't booted again.Pushed power button but nothing, connected to pc and showed that my device is unknown and can't use flashtools or something. Connected to a wall charger but phone looks like not charging at all becouse no led light. Tried reset thingies but nothing vibrates. So it is goodbye for my lover or i can give him life ?. Please help i don't know what to do
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Your phone is hard bricked. Sony will replace it if under guarantee.
Reflash sony stock FW or the one from your operator, relock bootloader and try to send it to guarantee repair.
I can't reflash becouse i said only my pc recognizes in device manager unknown device can't use flashtools pc companion or sus becouse they don't detect my phone. So i think i going to send to repair :/
lozohcum said:
Reflash sony stock FW or the one from your operator, relock bootloader and try to send it to guarantee repair.
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I've seen this before and it's a hard brick. Please read the threads before posting nonsense.

[Q] XPERIA L bricked or what?

Hi everyone, I think I might have bricked my Sony XPERIA L after I tried to partition my External SD card. After partitioning it to Fat32 and Ext4, I put back my SD card into my phone but after that my phone like never turned ON. Without being able to boot into bootloader, I can't flash stock firmwares. Seeing from all other threads that my phone might be dead, I came across something different today. I plugged in my phone (either to a PC or a Wall Charger) and a 'Light' Green LED was lit. Does it mean that I can do something to bring it back to normal usage?
p.s I love my Xperia L
Anyone, pliss?
bassil.alzoubi said:
just flash a new firmware with flashtool
and your phone is not dead
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That's the thing. My phone isn't being detected by PC. Phone doesn't go into Fastboot mode either.
Flashing via Flashtool didn't work.
bassil.alzoubi said:
so try another usb port or another usb cable
and double check your battery
i was facing this problem on my xperia arc
when i connect the phone to my the phone shows green led
i flashed my phone with a new ftf and its works
note : flashing the phone with flashtool need flashmode (volume down botton) not fastboot
and double check your drivers
hope your problem slove
sorry for my bad English:silly:
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Tried many things.. But I sent it to repair and the guy said that I have an external issue. But Thanks!
WaleedAhmad98 said:
Hi everyone, I think I might have bricked my Sony XPERIA L after I tried to partition my External SD card. After partitioning it to Fat32 and Ext4, I put back my SD card into my phone but after that my phone like never turned ON. Without being able to boot into bootloader, I can't flash stock firmwares. Seeing from all other threads that my phone might be dead, I came across something different today. I plugged in my phone (either to a PC or a Wall Charger) and a 'Light' Green LED was lit. Does it mean that I can do something to bring it back to normal usage?
p.s I love my Xperia L
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hi,
first of all connect your phone to pc in flashmode via flashtool !
now it will ask you automatically to select phone model !!
ok if still your phone is not recognized in flashtool then go continue and click on THUNDER ICON and select flash mode !!
now here again it can ask you ur phone mode ..
still if your device is not recognized then go continue .. and flash with your phone with original stock.. now here again it will ask yor model number !!
ok if still you are facing problem !! then cancel flash .. and again click on Thunder ICON ... and select FASTBOOT MODE ... and after clicking fastboot mode it will ask to remove your phone from pc and reconnect by pressing Volume UP button and hold then connect to pc .... now this time it will ask your model number or it will detect automatically !!
then install kernel again .. and rebot your mobile and start in boot mode .. and clean chache , clean to install new rom then select your rom and it's done !!
now i m sharing this with becoz i faced same issue and i was trying all way to get my phone on back ... so i had flowed these steps and it works !

[Q] xperia z3 fastboot mode problem

I wanted to wipe user data , so I googled for that to make a hard reset from bootloader and I found some steps :
1) Turn Off handset .
2) Press Up volume and connect to the computer through USB .
My mobile led went blue , but the computer gave me "device not recognized " message .
so I pressed Power Button to exit this mode , The led went off but the mobile didn't responde.
the screen is black and the mobile not responding Since then .
When I connect it to the computer it recognize that a usb device is plugged but with the message " device not recognized"
Tried many things , like press down volume and connect , or down volume and power , down,up and power ... etc , and nothing works .
Can any one help please
Hey did you even install the fastboot driver for xperia z3?
yeah the one that called Emma .
and another one called (Flashtool) but still my windows can't recognize it .
windows 8.1 by the way .
u might need to install the driver provided by flashtools.
installing non certified drivers are bit tricky on win8 & later which u need to reboot in special mode.
or maybe pc companion include that driver.
monx® said:
u might need to install the driver provided by flashtools.
installing non certified drivers are bit tricky on win8 & later which u need to reboot in special mode.
or maybe pc companion include that driver.
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EMMA is not non certified.
But the drivers can also be found on internet in a form of an .exe application.
I did installed the drivers in windows test mode , Still the same it can't recognize my phone .
i.dakrory said:
I did installed the drivers in windows test mode , Still the same it can't recognize my phone .
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u need to choose Disable driver signing enforcement in Advanced options. please refer
Code:
http://revryl.com/2013/08/06/install-unsigned-drivers/
i've downgraded my PC to Win7 instead so i cant guide for step by step.
Thank you every one for trying to help
The problem solved by itself , the phone battery got empty from last night , when I charged it the phone worked normally .
Now I need to reset the phone and normal factory reset don't delete every thing (pics, sms ... etc) still exists .

XZ Premium won't turn on - PLEASE HELP!

hi everybody,
I left my phone charging in the night(it was on) and when i came to take it in the morning (it was off)... i tried to turn it on but it didn't turn on!
(IM USING ORIGINAL SONY CHARGER AND USB THAT CAME WITH IT)
when I plug it in to a charger the LED turns green (that means that the battery is at 90% or above)
i tried power and volume up (hard reset) but it didn't work!
when i connected to my computer it wasn't detected....(tried all USB ports)
Also, i tried to enter Flashmode and Fastboot mode.. and none of them worked!
Xperia companion didn't detect it....
I tried to turn it on several times but it didn't work!
i even tried all buttons combination (power, both volumes ) all together, and nothing worked!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
please anyone have an idea or any suggestion that might help!
all your suggestions are so much appreciated!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I used to be a bit similar to your situation, but its power indicator is not lit. Pressing other buttons did not respond. I also tried to connect it to the computer, but still didn't respond. I had no choice but to send it back to the after-sales service. The response I got was that the power IC was damaged.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
I left my phone charging in the night(it was on) and when i came to take it in the morning (it was off)... i tried to turn it on but it didn't turn on!
(IM USING ORIGINAL SONY CHARGER AND USB THAT CAME WITH IT)
when I plug it in to a charger the LED turns green (that means that the battery is at 90% or above)
i tried power and volume up (hard reset) but it didn't work!
when i connected to my computer it wasn't detected....(tried all USB ports)
Also, i tried to enter Flashmode and Fastboot mode.. and none of them worked!
Xperia companion didn't detect it....
I tried to turn it on several times but it didn't work!
i even tried all buttons combination (power, both volumes ) all together, and nothing worked!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
please anyone have an idea or any suggestion that might help!
all your suggestions are so much appreciated!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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doesnt seem like something that can be fixed on a software level, you need to send it to sony to fix it if youre under warranty.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
I left my phone charging in the night(it was on) and when i came to take it in the morning (it was off)... i tried to turn it on but it didn't turn on!
(IM USING ORIGINAL SONY CHARGER AND USB THAT CAME WITH IT)
when I plug it in to a charger the LED turns green (that means that the battery is at 90% or above)
i tried power and volume up (hard reset) but it didn't work!
when i connected to my computer it wasn't detected....(tried all USB ports)
Also, i tried to enter Flashmode and Fastboot mode.. and none of them worked!
Xperia companion didn't detect it....
I tried to turn it on several times but it didn't work!
i even tried all buttons combination (power, both volumes ) all together, and nothing worked!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
please anyone have an idea or any suggestion that might help!
all your suggestions are so much appreciated!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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Send it to sony service same thing happened for me and they gave me another phone.
Similar, but Sony do not want to know now
Blackghosthm said:
Send it to sony service same thing happened for me and they gave me another phone.
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It's a long story, but bought an XZ from Toby Deals ( never ever use those rip off merchants ).
Decided not to want to turn on just before the year warranty ran out. Red flashing LED whilst charging, white Sony screen comes up, then goes off again, repeats ad infinitum. Obviously tried all the usual volume up/power button resets and this actually responds with the one buzz/three buzz response. Original charger and even a brand new battery - no change.
Didn't want to send back to Singapore, so tried Sony support who advised to send to Sony UK repair center.
I sent it in, came back as 'can't repair due to non UK model'.
Advised Sony on line support again, who promised me it would be looked at if sent in again.
Did that and they sent it back repaired and working ( no hardware ) - reflashed ?? Happy for three days.
Same thing happened after three days / same symptoms as before
Sent in again, sent back as 'non UK model' again. Started to cry
Informed Toby Deals who now don't want to know, as now a few moths past warranty expiry date.
Now I have a bricked expensive phone and have had since January. What a waste of money.
All I want to do, is whatever Sony UK repairers did in their factory.
No detection on PC and Companion either, which I feel is a big problem for any reflashing ideas.
Any ideas anybody please ?
Hammerheadz said:
It's a long story, but bought an XZ from Toby Deals ( never ever use those rip off merchants ).
Decided not to want to turn on just before the year warranty ran out. Red flashing LED whilst charging, white Sony screen comes up, then goes off again, repeats ad infinitum. Obviously tried all the usual volume up/power button resets and this actually responds with the one buzz/three buzz response. Original charger and even a brand new battery - no change.
Didn't want to send back to Singapore, so tried Sony support who advised to send to Sony UK repair center.
I sent it in, came back as 'can't repair due to non UK model'.
Advised Sony on line support again, who promised me it would be looked at if sent in again.
Did that and they sent it back repaired and working ( no hardware ) - reflashed ?? Happy for three days.
Same thing happened after three days / same symptoms as before
Sent in again, sent back as 'non UK model' again. Started to cry
Informed Toby Deals who now don't want to know, as now a few moths past warranty expiry date.
Now I have a bricked expensive phone and have had since January. What a waste of money.
All I want to do, is whatever Sony UK repairers did in their factory.
No detection on PC and Companion either, which I feel is a big problem for any reflashing ideas.
Any ideas anybody please ?
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Your phone is still booting, so the boot partition is still ok.
Download newflasher.
Install the Sony ADB drivers, to do this you will need to boot your Windows10 into safe mode and use 'driver signing disabled'
Read up on Xperiafirm, download the latest firmware for your region.
Put a copy of the Newflasher into the firmware download folder.
Unplug your phone from the PC.
Turn your phone off completely Power and Vol up (+) until it vibrates three times.
Run the newflasher and when prompted, plug your phone back in while holding the Volume up (+). Once the process has started you can let go.
Good luck
If you see any led light , try to use pc companion ( if your phone is not unlocked ) and if you have unlocked bootloader try to use xperifix to download the latest software for your phone and then flash it using newflasher ( don't forget to have the Sony USB drivers on your computer ) pls tell us if it works to find another way to fix your smartphone.
Didgesteve said:
Your phone is still booting, so the boot partition is still ok.
Download newflasher.
Install the Sony ADB drivers, to do this you will need to boot your Windows10 into safe mode and use 'driver signing disabled'
Read up on Xperiafirm, download the latest firmware for your region.
Put a copy of the Newflasher into the firmware download folder.
Unplug your phone from the PC.
Turn your phone off completely Power and Vol up (+) until it vibrates three times.
Run the newflasher and when prompted, plug your phone back in while holding the Volume up (+). Once the process has started you can let go.
Good luck
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Thanks for the info Didgesteve.
I am running through this now, but the firmware within Xperiafirm is a little light on the F8332 version ( dual sim ).
The single sim F8331 has lots more options including one for UK Virgin Mobile, which could be mine. The only other option for the 8332 is the Central Europe 1 CE1 option, which I don't think it is. Any advice please ? I am trying to find it on the Sony site, as @IgorEisberg states "XZ F8331 and F8332 are on the sony server now"
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Didgesteve said:
Your phone is still booting, so the boot partition is still ok.
Download newflasher.
Install the Sony ADB drivers, to do this you will need to boot your Windows10 into safe mode and use 'driver signing disabled'
Read up on Xperiafirm, download the latest firmware for your region.
Put a copy of the Newflasher into the firmware download folder.
Unplug your phone from the PC.
Turn your phone off completely Power and Vol up (+) until it vibrates three times.
Run the newflasher and when prompted, plug your phone back in while holding the Volume up (+). Once the process has started you can let go.
Good luck
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Thanks for the info Didgesteve.
I am running through this now, but the firmware within Xperiafirm is a little light on the F8332 version ( dual sim ).
The single sim F8331 has lots more options including one for UK Virgin Mobile, which could be mine. The only other option for the 8332 is the Central Europe 1 CE1 option, which I don't think it is. Any advice please ? I am trying to find it on the Sony site, as @IgorEisberg states "XZ F8331 and F8332 are on the sony server now"
Hammerheadz said:
The only other option for the 8332 is the Central Europe 1 CE1 option,
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It doesn't matter which region you have as long as the model number is the same, it's not locked to any language. The language can be chosen on start up, from a fresh install.
Central Europe 1 CE1 will be just fine.
Didgesteve said:
It doesn't matter which region you have as long as the model number is the same, it's not locked to any language. The language can be chosen on start up, from a fresh install.
Central Europe 1 CE1 will be just fine.
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Thanks. I did think that, so went ahead anyway.
I think I have a connectivity problem. Nothing is showing in device manager, so cant add the drivers any other way can I?
Newflasher shows 'no USB device with vid:0x0fce pid 0xb00b !'
Hammerheadz said:
Thanks. I did think that, so went ahead anyway.
I think I have a connectivity problem. Nothing is showing in device manager, so cant add the drivers any other way can I?
Newflasher shows 'no USB device with vid:0x0fce pid 0xb00b !'
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Did you install the drivers in 'safe mode'?
Hi. Yes I did. Still no joy, but I haven't tried since last time. I'll have another go this week, unless you can think of anything else it could be, or that I can try?
my xz premium reboots when I plug in charger. I will sell it and buy samsung ( i dont like it) before it dies completely lol
oh it was water in charging port, now all works perfectly
Didgesteve said:
Did you install the drivers in 'safe mode'?
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Still no joy.
I am using Windows 10 and when I requested recovery reboot, it does give me a safe boot option ( option 5 I think ), but it also gives me a 'disable driver signing' option too and you can't opt for both.
I have actually tried to boot in both modes and the newflasher does the same thing - see attached screenshot
Not sure what more I can do, to get these drivers on. I have also run in developer mode and set USB device discovery to on, to no avail.
If device manager never sees the phone, how will I ever be able to install the drivers.
The newflasher, asks to install Gordongate and it doesn't matter if I select yes or no, it still says no usb device.
I am running newflasher from here :
C:\Xperia firmware\F8332_Customized CE1_1315-4550_41.3.A.2.171_R1E
...........but I have tried to run it from the driver folder too.
I am stuck. If I can send it to you, please PM me !
:fingers-crossed:
Hammerheadz said:
Still no joy.
I am using Windows 10 and when I requested recovery reboot, it does give me a safe boot option ( option 5 I think ), but it also gives me a 'disable driver signing' option too and you can't opt for both.
I have actually tried to boot in both modes and the newflasher does the same thing - see attached screenshot
Not sure what more I can do, to get these drivers on. I have also run in developer mode and set USB device discovery to on, to no avail.
If device manager never sees the phone, how will I ever be able to install the drivers.
The newflasher, asks to install Gordongate and it doesn't matter if I select yes or no, it still says no usb device.
I am running newflasher from here :
C:\Xperia firmware\F8332_Customized CE1_1315-4550_41.3.A.2.171_R1E
...........but I have tried to run it from the driver folder too.
I am stuck. If I can send it to you, please PM me !
:fingers-crossed:
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Windows10, boot into safe mode, choose 'disable driver signing' in the advanced menu, start the computer and install the Sony drivers. If that doesn't work, answering yes to the first question in Newflasher creates a new drivers zip folder within the Newfalsher folder. Install these drivers, again with driver signing disabled.
When you put the phone into flash mode and plug it in to your PC, what does it say in the device manager?
Didgesteve said:
Windows10, boot into safe mode, choose 'disable driver signing' in the advanced menu, start the computer and install the Sony drivers. If that doesn't work, answering yes to the first question in Newflasher creates a new drivers zip folder within the Newfalsher folder. Install these drivers, again with driver signing disabled.
When you put the phone into flash mode and plug it in to your PC, what does it say in the device manager?
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Thanks for your reply Didgesteve.
I installed the drivers by installing the sa0115adb.inf successfully, but as the phone is continuously cycling through a 'Sony' white screen and blank screen ( frequency 3secs of each ), device manager does not seem to 'see' anything at all.
I also installed the ggsommc.inf driver, when prompted and answered as a 'ye's for the GordonGate option. It didn't give me a failure message, but also didn't state 'installed successfully' as the sa0115adb one did.
I also tried another generic driver called android_winusb.inf to no avail.
Hammerheadz said:
Thanks for your reply Didgesteve.
I installed the drivers by installing the sa0115adb.inf successfully, but as the phone is continuously cycling through a 'Sony' white screen and blank screen ( frequency 3secs of each ), device manager does not seem to 'see' anything at all.
I also installed the ggsommc.inf driver, when prompted and answered as a 'ye's for the GordonGate option. It didn't give me a failure message, but also didn't state 'installed successfully' as the sa0115adb one did.
I also tried another generic driver called android_winusb.inf to no avail.
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Try to use pccompanion sorry if I'm late
PC companion is no good, as the device can't been seen by windows or that app. I was wondering what the Sony uk repair centre used the last time they repaired it. Wish they would again !!
Hammerheadz said:
PC companion is no good, as the device can't been seen by windows or that app. I was wondering what the Sony uk repair centre used the last time they repaired it. Wish they would again !!
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Not at all it's like newflasher

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