All I want is root access but don't care for custom recovery is that possible ?
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Of course. There are rooted kernels you can flash in Odin, then download a superuser app from the play store.
But... You'll still trip knox, so why not have the added benefit of a custom recovery?
If you're gonna root, twrp or philztouch is absolutely necessary. It's stupid not to.
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Hi. Been out the loop for a while and struggling to find the answer to my question.
I'm on 4.4.4 no custom revovery but with root.
I have an OTA notice to go to lollipop, which should be fine, as I have stock evetything?
How do I simply get root back afer the update?
So many posts with options, I'm struggling to find the right answer.
Unlock bootloader, and then either use cf-autoroot or flash latest SuperSU BETA through twrp.
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Unlock bootloader, and then either use cf-autoroot or flash latest SuperSU BETA through twrp.
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Thanks, bootloader is already unlocked. I don't really want to install any custom recoveries, so the cf-autoroot sounds like the way to go.
Do you have a link for how to use this method?
Here you go http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
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teapea said:
Thanks, bootloader is already unlocked. I don't really want to install any custom recoveries, so the cf-autoroot sounds like the way to go.
Do you have a link for how to use this method?
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to use a custom recovery you don't need to flash it.. just boot it.
'fastboot boot whatever_custom_recovery_you_want.img'
Now that we have root without tripping Knox thanks to ping-pong root I'd like to get to flashing custom zips..... Specifically the xposed framework.
Does anybody know if we can just use flashify to flash stuff without having to install a custom recovery which would trip Knox? I sure as hell hope so, i'm itching to get back to the Custom fun.
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Predtechhacker said:
Now that we have root without tripping Knox thanks to ping-pong root I'd like to get to flashing custom zips..... Specifically the xposed framework.
Does anybody know if we can just use flashify to flash stuff without having to install a custom recovery which would trip Knox? I sure as hell hope so, i'm itching to get back to the Custom fun.
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Pretty positive xposed doesn't work on any samsung on lollipo anyway.
Indeed. Xposed does not work on Touchwiz Lollipop.
Ah crap! Ok, thanks guys
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In my opinion using flashify will trip knox
Steyux said:
In my opinion using flashify will trip knox
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well flashify has been sucessfully been used to install recovery without tripping knox on note 3 so we can hope for it
So there's no way to flash twrp without root? Flashify doesn't because its a tar file
Flashfire can flash twrp tar file.
@bhavstech in my opinion flashing custom recovery always trip knox.
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I want to just boot twrp (fastboot boot ..... ) not flash, so I can install xposed without tripping know or anything
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I want to just boot twrp (fastboot boot ..... ) not flash, so I can install xposed without tripping know or anything
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Firstly there is no fastboot on galaxy devices secondly knox trips when the device "boots" with custom kernel or recovery
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So no way to install xposed without tripping?
I think xposed is not even working with samsung roms yet
Is there a way to install Custom ROMs without tripping KNOX?
I've already rooted my S6 with PingPongRoot and KNOX is still 0x0.
I'd really love to use a more stable and debloated ROM on my S6.
Custom ROMs do not trip Knox. Modifying boot loader trips Knox.
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Custom ROMs do not trip Knox. Modifying boot loader trips Knox.
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So, how can I install a Custom ROM without Custom Recovery? Is it possible?
You need Flashfire. I suggest searching on these forums or google Flashfire.
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You need Flashfire. I suggest searching on these forums or google Flashfire.
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And with the use of Flashfire, this won't trip the KNOX?
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And with the use of Flashfire, this won't trip the KNOX?
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No. Only the installation of a custom recovery, and thereby, the modification of the bootloader trips Knox. Rooting or the act of installing custom Roms itself does not. Of course, Samsung and the carriers can always patch that when/if they so choose.
So bottom line... There is no way to have a custom ROM installed without tripping KNOX
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So bottom line... There is no way to have a custom ROM installed without tripping KNOX
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That's not what I wrote. You can install custom ROMs without unlocking the bootlocker, by using Flashfire if your S6 variant is supported. You can install ROMs all day long; you just don't have the safety of a custom recovery. If something happens, you'd have to use Odin to flash back. The risk in that is that Samsung may not let you Odin back to a previous stock ROM.
In that case I would need to flash back to the same custom ROM? Can't seem to see what would be the risk to put a custom ROM without tripping KNOX. The terms younused are just a little over my knowledge in that domain. Therefore they confuse me...
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In that case I would need to flash back to the same custom ROM? Can't seem to see what would be the risk to put a custom ROM without tripping KNOX. The terms younused are just a little over my knowledge in that domain. Therefore they confuse me...
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Sometimes you need to go back to the oem stock rom. One, a custom rom can cause lockups, freezes, battery drain, and other system errors. Two, the majority of custom roms disable firmware updates. If you wish to stay current with your carrier's updates, you likely need to flash back to the carrier's stock rom.
And flashing back to stock will trip the Knox because I will have no choice except use ODIN?
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And flashing back to stock will trip the Knox because I will have no choice except use ODIN?
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No, Odin does not trip knox.
So, one can install custom ROM without voiding the warranty using Ping Pong and Flashfire? And if one wants to go back to stock, it would be possible to do so without tripping KNOX once more?
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So, one can install custom ROM without voiding the warranty using Ping Pong and Flashfire? And if one wants to go back to stock, it would be possible to do so without tripping KNOX once more?
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As i understand yes, but you would need to use Odin to flash the stock ROM.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Very usefull conversation.
Thanks
M.Ned said:
Is there a way to install Custom ROMs without tripping KNOX?
I've already rooted my S6 with PingPongRoot and KNOX is still 0x0.
I'd really love to use a more stable and debloated ROM on my S6.
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Why would you. stock rom is the most stable rom. if you do not want ads. use Blokada app (google)
I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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I'm not sure about that. Flashing something that upgrades or downgrades bootloader usually wipes data.
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