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Hey guys, i am currently interested in getting the g2x to dev on. I dev for the Moto defy since the day it came out and have plenty of roms. Now my question is how are you guys experience with this device? I've read some complaints of tons of reboot and back light leak, poor signal..etc.. Any comments would be much appreciated, looking forward to getting this phone
Very good device. Some have backlight bleed but only really noticeable in the dark and when looking at it on an angle.
I haven't had any reboots recently but once when i got a call and after hung up it just died and had to pull battery.
Main problem seems to be that Nvidia's lack of sources for A2DP functionality for stereo bluetooth and that 2.3.3 is on froyo kernel so further updates with custom roms would be difficult.
thanks for the reply, how are the roms? Any problems with current roms ?
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thanks for the reply, how are the roms? Any problems with current roms ?
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In all honesty, CM7 works perfectly even with the lack of a2dp support. 2.3.3 OTA based roms (namely Weapon G2x) works just as well if you want that close to stock feel with more features. MIUI has all the same problems CM7 does since they run off the same kernel.
I've never had any issues with reboots, and if people do it's probably because of rogue apps running in the background. I never had a reboot because I like keeping my app drawer as minimal as possible At least, that is my theory
I love my g2x..just checked the sgs2 but not really into that much, my g2x on Cm7 was faster... The roms are good, I do agree with the lack of tegra support but Meh. Love it..please get one and welcome..
I love my phone.
Excellent performance, excellent display, and excellent battery life. I'm on my 3rd one, but that was because my first one kept locking up, and my 2nd replacement came damaged.
I love this phone, and I wouldn't want to replace it with anything else until the Nexus Prime. ^_^
Absolutely zero problems, love this phone so much. One of the best parts is the glass. It's curved, which makes unlocking it feel really good , and the glass feels really thick and solid. Also NO scratches, coming from an iphone all these things are huge. Loving it.
I feel like this phone can stay up to date with most of the devices coming out right now... On Android, you don't actually need 1GB of RAM... Heck, 512MB is more than enough! I'm gonna hold out until the quad core phones start coming in... If the Nexus Prime is still a dual core, I won't even bother.
I got 99 experiences but a reboot ain't one.
My 1st G2x is running good.
no reboots, no reception issues.
runs great and my app drawer always has at least 200 apps.
lol
I haven't started deving /theming on it yet.
Thanks everyone for you input! Just placed the order for it and cant wait to get. Never dev for any other devices besides moto , so im looking forward to this.
Awesome a new dev!!! Wanna thank you in advance. Good luck
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Mister Hat said:
I got 99 experiences but a reboot ain't one.
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LOL. My girlfriend just asked me why I laughed...
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I feel like this phone can stay up to date with most of the devices coming out right now... On Android, you don't actually need 1GB of RAM... Heck, 512MB is more than enough! I'm gonna hold out until the quad core phones start coming in... If the Nexus Prime is still a dual core, I won't even bother.
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This.... Not thinking if anything but quad core to upgrade...
Anyone get a problem where the phone wont find network after you go into a dead area like subway and you have to disable and re-enable all connections for it to work again?
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Reboots
My wife and I both have our 3rd G2x (due to replacements of bad phones). The phones we have now are doing well, however we both did experience a random SHUTOFF not reboot. It only happened twice, so I'm just waiting to see if that happens again, really weird.
My G2x is is running great. On my second one due to random shut downs on my first. I only experienced a couple reboots until I got a brand new battery and rooted the phone. Currently running Eagles Blood 2.3.5 others no misshaps. Love it.
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Hey guys, i am currently interested in getting the g2x to dev on. I dev for the Moto defy since the day it came out and have plenty of roms. Now my question is how are you guys experience with this device? I've read some complaints of tons of reboot and back light leak, poor signal..etc.. Any comments would be much appreciated, looking forward to getting this phone
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This is a great phone. For those of us that have had no problems, the intended impact of the device is evident.
However, you cannot ignore what a lot of people went through. for many, the g2x experience was the worst possible.
LG and T-Mobile appear to have let the phone fade away. Even though its for sale, and can be had for cheap, it no longer appears in comparison with other good phones on the market today. Check the reviews out their today...cnet, etc....The powers that be have let it fade away.
Even DEVs appear to have moved on. Many of the people here a few months ago have moved to other devices. Even saying that, there are some real good ROMs out there...just less people deving them.
In all honesty I have to say, this phone is the best phone I've owned. But in that same honesty, I'd have to say, you may want to consider something else. Even the Sensation is now getting far more press and exposure from T-Mobile than this beauty. There are TONs of ROMs available for the Sensation and some of the best DEVs from the android world are there.
I've recently considered the Bionic....but the VzW pricing plan is just too much. Minimum $100 a month to walk out with a Bionic.
I love the G2x. But if you want long term upgradabiity...you may wish to look elsewhere.
Just my opinion....
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Anyone get a problem where the phone wont find network after you go into a dead area like subway and you have to disable and re-enable all connections for it to work again?
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No. It just finds it. Maybe not on second one, but 10-20.
Also, I came to G2x from the Bold, which would die in a day with no usage under dead zones. That was a huge problem - I was forced to enable and disable airplane mode all around. The G2x is great in that matter.
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My G2x is is running great. On my second one due to random shut downs on my first. I only experienced a couple reboots until I got a brand new battery and rooted the phone. Currently running Eagles Blood 2.3.5 others no misshaps. Love it.
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I have noticed that a lot of problems happen under the stock ROM or roms based on the stock one.
Flashing something like CM7 or MIUI fixes a lot of problems.
Is it safe to get this phone presently? Has all the hardware issues been cleared out? I'm looking to pick one up soon second hand. Can anyone point out to me what manufacturing periods I should avoid? Or anything that might help me point out to a dud of a G2X that might have random reboots, overheating issues, etc?
Gonna start prowling on Craigslist to see if I have any luck.
Some people continue to have issues to this day while others dont so there really isnt a consistent way to know if the phone will work properly or not.
regP said:
Some people continue to have issues to this day while others dont so there really isnt a consistent way to know if the phone will work properly or not.
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Thank you. I guess I'll scratch that idea of getting this phone. Don't want to risk dealing with the hassle and headaches of buying a phone of CL only to find out that it's rebooting like crazy.
Honestly, I hated this phone when I first it, but after getting into using custom ROMs and kernels, I love it. Bottom line is this: if you want a phone that you will use stock, don't get it. If you plan to run a custom ROM and especially if you're even relatively knowledgeable or intelligent grab one if you can get it at a good price. We even have an alpha of ICS out which isn't half bad, it is an alpha so it can be problematic at times.
Edit: also if you want to get into running custom ROMS then definitely go for it, if you can read and follow directions exactly this phone is awesome in that its next to impossible to permanently brick it.
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Волк said:
Honestly, I hated this phone when I first it, but after getting into using custom ROMs and kernels, I love it. Bottom line is this: if you want a phone that you will use stock, don't get it. If you plan to run a custom ROM and especially if you're even relatively knowledgeable or intelligent grab one if you can get it at a good price. We even have an alpha of ICS out which isn't half bad, it is an alpha so it can be problematic at times.
Edit: also if you want to get into running custom ROMS then definitely go for it, if you can read and follow directions exactly this phone is awesome in that its next to impossible to permanently brick it.
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What worries me is if it has hardware issues that causes random reboots or overheating issues. I remember reading this when the phone first came out. Other users also had GPS issues, etc.
I'd be willing to get one if the price is right on CL but these things makes me nervous. Any tips on what things I could "try" while testing the phone out on CL or things to look out for? I know the other user said it would be hard to tell...but at this point, anything would be helpful.
I' m digging mine.
edekalil
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Mine is 100%. Just use a Cm7 stable release for the next little bit (some issues in the newer nightlies).
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Mine is 100%. Just use a Cm7 stable release for the next little bit (some issues in the newer nightlies).
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By the way, how's the issue with development with regards to a closed source code?
I remember last time that one of the issues why development was so stale on this phone was due to the closed source nature of the Tegra chip. Is this still the case?
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By the way, how's the issue with development with regards to a closed source code?
I remember last time that one of the issues why development was so stale on this phone was due to the closed source nature of the Tegra chip. Is this still the case?
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Last time I checked there was active development. Regardless we do have an Alpha of CM9 which if you're aware of the implications of using an Alpha and are ok with it, is good. As far as teh Tegra crap, yea, I think we would have seen a release alot sooner if NVidia wasn't closed-fisted. Otherwise, that's one of the only major downfalls of the alpha is that there is no hardware acceleration, so some ICS specific apps won't run or won't run right.
As far as testing, just do regular stuff, do a litttle browsing, install an app, play a video look to see if it's physically damaged AT ALL, etc. As far as teh GPS, it is an odd one, but I have a method which works 100% for me:
GPS status (download GPS aiding data)>reboot>GPS status to get lock>maps
I also did that and instead of maps I launched Locus and it also got a lock.
Just a note Craigs List not the best place to buy a cell. Do a search, too many horror stories about bad phones.
We just got ics so based on hardware and software specs if your willing to root and flash still a top of the libe phone with bad battery life hah
Pin it to Win it.
If you want I could sell you mine for 250 shipped. Running whatever rom you want. Pm me.
I'm one of the ones who never had any major issues as constant overheating or rebooting...rooted since day 1by the way and with ics roms out its even better. If its dirt cheap I recommend it
It depends, its a decent size and speed. I had mine clocked at the 1500 on eaglesblood and the faux123 kernel stopped the daily SODs (sleep of death). But I wiped it and gave it to my GF only to have the SODs return on the same Rom and Kernel that had gotten rid of it for me. There is also an overheating issue, I was on my second battery in 2 months without clocking the cpu and the smell is horrible, this is a huge issue with these phones.
I think that the phone itself is a great piece of hardware that needs a lot of customizing to get it to where you want it. In the hardware department you get a lot of bang for your buck but it is almost a requirement to install a custom rom to get day to day smooth functionality that we want. Fortunately there is a good number of roms to choose from that you can sample and find one which that best suits your needs
This phone is like having a beautiful wife that just don't act right. It will drive you crazy at times but you just can't keep your hands off it.
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Lol so true
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Thank you. I guess I'll scratch that idea of getting this phone. Don't want to risk dealing with the hassle and headaches of buying a phone of CL only to find out that it's rebooting like crazy.
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I just bought one off of Craigslist and am very happy with it. I gave my wife my T-Mobile galaxy s 2 because I didnt like the way the screen isn't sharp and lack of development for now. I started using her sensation but was not impressed so I bought the G2X. Way better than the sensation I might add. The screen is very impressive, looks better than the sensation,gs2 and my old vibrant. I was really shocked. Battery life though seems to be an issue but I will work it out. The camera is better than the sensation but the gs2 has the best camera I have seen to date. If I were you I would buy one. And yes I do a lot of phone swapping, I think I have owed every Android phone that came out for T-Mobile starting with the G1
Well as you all may know, LG claims korean devices will get ics. We have been holding our breathe for a long time, suprised we are not all dead yet. Regardless, what does everyone think about the g2x and the current development that is going on? I myself am quite frustrated with it. I can get jellybean to build but it is still very much broken, and I refuse to release something that turns my device into a paperweight. I will open source my stuff before too much longer, just to see what others can do, but I do not see many people, deving, modding or even themeing anymore.
I personally like my g2x it stomps my galaxy nexus in quadrants (which means nothing, I just like the big numbers) but it also seems to handle games alot better. I have been through 6 defective ones but, I still hang on to it. I have sold all my other devices besides my nexus and my g2x.
I am sure I got off on the wrong foot with some people, however everything I said came true. Certain teams claimed other teams work as their own and refused to submit their minute changes upstream as required by the gpl they claim protects their rebranded work and now all further development has stopped. The more people that work on something the better off the chances are for success but yea.....anywho
This is not intended to be a flame thread or an i told you so thread. This is intended to find out what everyone thinks of the current development and state of their phone. I want to know what the average user would like to see. What is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
Sold. Got a Galaxy Nexus enjoying a 100% working ROM of Jelleybean 4.1
I am getting a Samsung Galaxy III when I come back from vacation.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
I love the phone and the support from the community but despise the neglect from LG/nVidia. I was running different ROMs until I needed full bluetooth support on the v21y baseband so now I'm back on stock Gingerbread :-\
I bought this phone on contract with intentions of it being future proof and lasting the full 2 years. A year into my contract and the specs are still great on paper. A little bit more RAM would be nice but I can work with it. Just please LG, hook us up with ICS. I don't really want to cough up 400 bucks for a Galaxy Nexus...
I love my g2x...I have been messing around with Harsh's kernel for CM 7...(I even got a OC/UV version...hehe)...I thought about making a CM7 kang (with tweaks and what not)...or an AOSP GB ROM...but right now I'm in school...and debating if I should put the time and effort into development...I don't mind...I'm still learning about how kernels works...and would love to develop something (or at least help out) for our devices...
I like my g2x a lot. Bought it off eBay 7 months ago and have been impressed with the power this thing has. I am very distrought that we are 2 versions of android behind. Yes we have ICS but its not to the level of perfection I need and thus am still on GB. This is my 3rd android phone and I have never fallen this behind thanks to devs of xda.
I understand the driver/source code issues that are holding us back. If we can get a port of our Korean counterpart's ICS, then I will most likely just hold onto this phone for awhile longer.
My contract us up in 3 months and I could save money by going to a monthly plan. If we can't get fully functioning ICS though, I'll be hopping on the note 2. I'm getting the note 2 regardless, but would just like to wait till the right deal comes along instead of paying top dollar.
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There are still some ports showing up, but I see 2 things being a barrier to more/better dev activity -
1) Driver availability. Both ICS and GB. ICS ROMs are stuck on things needing HW acceleration, for example. The Froyo camera is almost fully ported to 2.3+ but not exactly. JB - even more so.
2) In call BT audio for new BB. Even though we can flash to have custom ROMs work with v21y, this function is still not working. That is a big reason why I have quit flashing the past few months.
I do like the phone and will keep it until it breaks.
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I love my g2x but its lagging seriously since i got it up too 132 using gps but running your rooted stock. My phone only likes stock roms cm based just force close everything. But ill keep it tell it dies
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I don't attempt to run ics or jb roms anymore, they still seem unstable. But I am quite content with gb, though I still haven't found a rom+kernel that solves everything. Either it lags or I get SOD/overheating. So far I like cm7 nightlies best, don't know which kernel to go with though.
Galaxy Nexus is on it's way. My G2X is just too buggy, but I am going to keep it as a backup. Plus I want to go to an unsubsidized plan as the rates are much cheaper. For the same price I pay now I can get unlimited talk, text and data, plus hotspot (which I am not paying for now but have been warned that it will soon be an additional $15/month). I make back the cost of the GNEX in one year with the better service and reduced rate.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
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I like Kwes and BuruRom rooted stock in addition to Temasek's CM7. I've got my phone figured out. If/when (on CM7 based roms) data drops or MMS bugs cause me frustration, I just restore Nandroid back-ups of those rooted stock version(s). If I need to drive an HD movie out the HDMI port for my kids in the backseat, I have better results with Morfic's kernel/CM7. Yeah, the phone runs hot (gets unstable) when pushed hard. It still does all I ask of it - day in, day out. I plan to make it work till I am eligible to upgrade. I hope my replacement for my G2x won't need to be any bigger. I miss the days of being able to forget my cell phone is in my jeans pocket!
I am waiting for a new nexus phone to come out and i am going to buy that and ditch the g2x. I am still running Bionix Reloaded because it is the best rom I have found to date and I have no reason to switch. I tried some ICS roms but my battery died in a few hours and I barley got a data connection. I appreciate all of the hard work and development with the G2X but LG killed it by not releasing drivers. I find it really sad because the G2X is such a powerful phone. I think it is still competitive with current phones that are being released with the software being the only exception. I told myself I will never purchase a new phone unless it is a nexus phone due to the fact that they will get updates.
LG definitely lost my business for a long time.
Personally
I would love to develop for the G2x(I'm learning, but just barely) , but I can't see much that I am capable of doing right now. I'm gonna cook versions of CM7 and play with building kernels. We are in a holding pattern until the nVidia drivers come forward or the CM7 bluetooth thing gets resolved.
Going to keep the phone until at least Christmas, even later probably. My Nexus 7 has made my g2x have great battery life!
Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.
Lol... I got my nexus 2 or 3 weeks ago and swore I would sell my g2x ( at one point I was contemplating having my friends form a firing line directly at the phone. Then sending the video to lg and nvidia, interrupted by Linus giving them the finger.) But I haven't. I really love the phone to be honest. I was lucky enough to get one without major screen bleed and it has only locked up on me twice (PC/UV kernels).. I'm seriously contemplating keeping it as a back up phone.
I do wish that nvidia and lg would hurry up with the update so I could play around with fully functioning jb Roms, but since I know nothing about coding, I'm no help.
I also notice fewer and fewer devs working on it. I hope they are just waiting for the drivers tho.
So all in all, I still have the phone, even though I have moved on.
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No more Korean phones
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...what is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
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Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
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Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
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Agreed, the devs here have done a wonderful job. Though I don't blame them for moving to another device.
I am running ics(hellfire sandwich) on g2x. Except the camera everything seems to work. Waiting for jellybean. I dont think i will change my phone atleast this year. All the games run well. I am dissapointed cuz we are being ignored by lg and nvidia.
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I have had a Samsung Epic that has served me well for a couple years. I'm looking to upgrade, and seeing no other qwerty sliders worthy of consideration on Sprint, I am really interested in the Q.
Just the name Q makes me all nostalgic for my old MotoQ9c that is still activated and sits in my drawer for the occasional use as a backup phone. And I have to say that I am impressed with the keyboard on the new Q after trying it out a few times.
My Epic is just about worn out. I have been running CM9.0 on it since alpha, and have it running as good as is to be expected. But it's loaded down with apps, and the slider and keyboard are just about worn out. It's laggy just because it's under powered for all the stuff I'm making it do. To top it off, my otterbox commuter case has broken, and even if I could find a new one, I don't see myself investing in more accessories for this old phone.
The nice thing about the epic, though, was that the dev community was, and to some extent still is, EPIC. So let's just say that coming over here seems a little quiet. I see that there is development happening, of course, just not on the same scale. I also see that CM 10 is available, so I know my ROMing needs will probably be met. So, this alone will not stop me from a move.
Neither will lte/wimax coverage.
So, if some of you would be so kind, just give me your reasons why you think I should or should not buy a new Q. Let me know the strengths and weaknesses of the phone from the perspective of those who have had it for a while.
I greatly appreciate your input.
-AH
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Photon Q:
Pros:
Dual core 1.5ghz Krait.
Nice keyboard.
$50 phone with contract
Cons:
Integrated SIM and battery.
No ROMs available until all kinks are worked out, I would not expect a fully functional ROM any time soon.
I'll think of more .
I would wait more and spend more on a better, more supported phone, though it might the best Keyboard phone available on sprint. iPhone is probably the best on Sprint, for those who don't like freedom, we'll see what Ubuntu OS has to offer! I can't wait for a native system, Android has been disappointing in the app/ROM stability/speed department.
Depends on personal preference. Even with very little development currently going on for the Q, in terms of performance it is leaps and bounds ahead of the Epic. On the stock Q rom no Custom Rom on the Epic is going to come close for multitasking and performance.
The stock rom rooted and with custom mods is pretty snappy. I have no regrets coming from the Epic. The battery life is great on the Q. I had the Epic for two years, and always had terrible battery life no matter what custom rom or mods I ran.
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Pros:
Fast as ****. 2nd fastest SOC in the market .
Best keyboard I have ever used.
Brilliant screen.
Cons:
Battery life.
Not much development.
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Thanks, guys. That's good info, and all along the lines of what I expected. I've got a couple weeks before I make the final jump, so, unless another phone comes along that just blows everything else out of the water, I'll be getting the new Q on or around March 1.
And if something better does come along, well then I guess I can upgrade that line my MotoQ9c has been on for the last 5 years. =)
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I have had every QWERTY phone available on Sprint.
The Moto Q is the best yet. I think you will be happy with the decision.
I was hesitant about giving up the removable battery.
But, I bought a Anker 5600 Mah power bank that I keep in my car or in my front pocket with my wallet and I'm happy.
On a side note, the width of the phone is perfect. Probably the widest I would want.
Let's just hope the Moto Q is not the last, great QWERTY phone.
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Not much development.
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That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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I'm glad to hear things are about to pick up!
Now I'll be less tempted to jump onto a Nexus 4 once it eventually comes to Sprint.
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Skrilax_CZ said:
That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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lol, why haven't you said anything......
I feel like I'm reinventing the wheel over here! You guys meet on IRC somewhere, or do I need to speak Czech?
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That's going to change
Porting CM10 on the Photon Q and another guy with MS1 - the CM maintainer for MS - kabaldan - is getting the Q too. Although CDMA support might be a problem since he's from Prague too.
So far I got basic things working (display, sound, camera, adb, modem, wifi (partially - doesn't seem to detect networks properly)). Main thing though - QWERTY keyboard - still needs properly patched framework (that's right, stock ICS+ Android lacks support for physical QWERTY keyboard on the phone) ...
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Is there anything public we can see? Like a git somewhere?
Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).
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Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).
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Friggin sweet!
So when are you going to post CM10? When you get the kb stuff worked out?
I'm building now, hoping to get some success. Hoping you post it to the public soon!
I will post when the "child illnesses" are solved.
I just upgraded from the Evo Shift and I'm glad I did. The Shift was a great phone but like you, it couldn't keep up with me anymore. I rooted, flashed pwnyourface's customish stock ROM and debloated and the phone's running great. With the fast processor, multi-tasking is much easier and even Sprint's abysmal 3G speeds seem better because the apps can us it more efficiently.
Battery life's not bad but with being faster and with a bigger screen' I was expecting a dip from the usual 18hrs I would get out of my Shift. The good thing is that if you buy the Q from Costco Wireless, it's only $40 (edit - with upgrade) plus you get the following:
-belt holster (won't use but I'll take it)
-a slip over case (can't use it in the case but it's good until I get my Otterbox which I found for $21 on Amazon)
-a car charger/wall charger combo with extra cable (cheapish but whatever, it's free)
- mail-in-rebate for a battery pack and nav dock (will take 4-8 weeks to process BUT FREE! WOOOOO!)
Overall, more than happy I upgraded though I'm having to retrain my fingers to work with this keyboard.
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Repos are on github in current state: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ?tab=repositories (use android_kernel_moto_asanti_c for kernel). Or see here how to clone the entire tree: https://github.com/SkrilaxCZ/android (jellybean branch). Vendor repo is included too, no need to extract anything from phone. Also I'm on ASA14 firmware. I'm porting CM10 as there are problems with camera on CM10.1 on the similar phones such as RAZR HD as of now. And I started this weekend, that's 4 days
Framework is forked, but I haven't patched it yet. So as I said QWERTY keyboard isn't working properly (backlight, onscreen keyboard shows up etc.).
You can find me and kabaldan (as nadlabak) on freenode #motomagic, there are also other guys from US in there to help (well, mind the timezones, CZ is GMT+1).
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Wow! That's all so great to hear. I'm sure if the JB upgrade from moto and sprint ever actually arrives and we get source code on it it will help to figure out a lot of those issues as well. I'm definitely not letting development or lack thereof affect my decision. I know development will happen, it's just a matter of time. My feeling is that some of the newer phones haven't been developed as much as older ones like the Epic because they work so well out of the box with faster processors and more ram. You can't imagine how shocked I was when my Epic froze up less than an hour of leaving the sprint store with it. Everyone knew the hardware could do better, so the tinkerers had to fix it...and boy did they. But if a phone works well out of the box, then there isn't the perceived need for it. Still, I've gotten used to having my phone rooted, checking CM nightlies, and doing my own tweaks. So the fact that this is out there is icing on the cake.
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I just upgraded from the Evo Shift and I'm glad I did. The Shift was a great phone but like you, it couldn't keep up with me anymore. I rooted, flashed pwnyourface's customish stock ROM and debloated and the phone's running great. With the fast processor, multi-tasking is much easier and even Sprint's abysmal 3G speeds seem better because the apps can us it more efficiently.
Battery life's not bad but with being faster and with a bigger screen' I was expecting a dip from the usual 18hrs I would get out of my Shift. The good thing is that if you buy the Q from Costco Wireless, it's only $40 (edit - with upgrade) plus you get the following:
-belt holster (won't use but I'll take it)
-a slip over case (can't use it in the case but it's good until I get my Otterbox which I found for $21 on Amazon)
-a car charger/wall charger combo with extra cable (cheapish but whatever, it's free)
- mail-in-rebate for a battery pack and nav dock (will take 4-8 weeks to process BUT FREE! WOOOOO!)
Overall, more than happy I upgraded though I'm having to retrain my fingers to work with this keyboard.
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Yeah, I saw the deal from costco, and am probably going that way. We don't have a membership, and it's about 20 miles to the nearest store, and we pass two Sam's clubs on the way, but my wife is interested in getting a membership and checking it out for a year, so that's the plan.
And I know what you mean about changing the keyboard. I picked the Epic because I felt it had the best keyboard available at the time, and that was largely due to the 5th row of keys. My first couple tries with the Q were like going into bazaaro land, but the feel of it is just so much more positive. I agree with the guys over at A|C: the best keyboard on an android phone, period.
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Wow, this generated more response than I expected. Thanks so much to all of you for all the info.
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I thought you needed a membership but when I ordered two phones from the website, membershipwireless.com, it never asked for a Costco customer number, just my Sprint info. I think it's a separate entity that's partnered with Costco or something but you don't need to join to buy stuff from the wireless division.
Hey guys.
Just ordered up my phone from Costco. Can't wait until it comes in.
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Hey guys.
Just ordered up my phone from Costco. Can't wait until it comes in.
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Great choice!! You gotta love it. For custom ROM,I think it will come considering this phone has an unlocked bootloader.
I don't mean to be rude to any other devs on here, but it seems that squid2's Squid Kernel hasn't been updated in a while, and now with eng.stk no longer having this device, no more updates will come to his kernel. So I ask: when will we get more devs to develop for the 2015 Moto G?
I wish I could help, but I have nowhere near enough ram for a build environment.
and new + stablr roms too. :/ less developers for g3.. no offence to current devs they did a gr8 job.
Let me say just one thing. My last device was the HTC Desire 601. Great phone but very very little dev support. We never got CM, maybe two roms that were never updated. Im thoroughly happy with the support this device has. This is just me though, but some is better than none
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I think this device is not getting too much ROM or kernel devs because, in my opinion, stock works just perfect. I tried CM and many others and I just love the stability of stock, and also using custom you loose what in my opinion is the best feature of this phone which is ambient display.
I had the 2nd grn moto g and I can say that phone had tons of devs compared to this one. But 2nd gen stock was quite awfull, being 5.0.1 so installing custom was the best you could do.
With 3rd gen I don't miss any feature nor anything from CM, just install xposed and that's it.
Just my opinion, but it would be really nice to have some new kernels to try. And I kinda miss to be trying ROMs, I flahed new build every day, and tried almost every one available on my 2nd gen hehe, but I just don't need it on this one.
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I think this device is not getting too much ROM or kernel devs because, in my opinion, stock works just perfect. I tried CM and many others and I just love the stability of stock, and also using custom you loose what in my opinion is the best feature of this phone which is ambient display.
I had the 2nd grn moto g and I can say that phone had tons of devs compared to this one. But 2nd gen stock was quite awfull, being 5.0.1 so installing custom was the best you could do.
With 3rd gen I don't miss any feature nor anything from CM, just install xposed and that's it.
Just my opinion, but it would be really nice to have some new kernels to try. And I kinda miss to be trying ROMs, I flahed new build every day, and tried almost every one available on my 2nd gen hehe, but I just don't need it on this one.
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I right with you, stock work perfectly, but with a custom kernel, perfomance and battery its better. I only wait for a custom kernel for stock marshmallow firmware. I have a stock 5.1 with blu_spark custom kernel, is really great, works better than cm12, resurrection remix and other custom roms, of course, kernel options edited by kernel adiutor.
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I think this device is not getting too much ROM or kernel devs because, in my opinion, stock works just perfect. I tried CM and many others and I just love the stability of stock, and also using custom you loose what in my opinion is the best feature of this phone which is ambient display.
I had the 2nd grn moto g and I can say that phone had tons of devs compared to this one. But 2nd gen stock was quite awfull, being 5.0.1 so installing custom was the best you could do.
With 3rd gen I don't miss any feature nor anything from CM, just install xposed and that's it.
Just my opinion, but it would be really nice to have some new kernels to try. And I kinda miss to be trying ROMs, I flahed new build every day, and tried almost every one available on my 2nd gen hehe, but I just don't need it on this one.
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There are plenty of apps and xposed modules which can mimic ambient display, as well as improve on it greatly. I used to use one app called gravity for my N4 which lets you choose the sensors to enable to wake the display. This was probably a full year or two before Motorola released the original Moto X with its ambient features. Personally, I think Moto G's ambient display is pretty barebone, and I really would like to see more options. If you use the stock rom you won't get any light sensor wake, so if you wave your hand it won't wake up. That's actually just a Moto X thing, and CM found a way to add that into their app for Moto G.
I would love to see an official PA build with working ambient display. That has always been my favorite custom rom, and it hasn't gotten much attention for our device.
Also, as the OP requested, kernels...there are a literal crapton of modules that can be added which would not only improve our battery life, but the device's overall performance, web speed, charge time, display color, etc....the possibilities here are almost endless.
So there are definitely things which can be improved upon for this device, IMHO. Just remember, what's perfect for you isn't perfect for everyone. I'm coming from around 5 years of Nexus devices. Trust me when I tell you, this forum feels like a ghost town, in comparison. The N4 is 4 generations old now, and it still sees more daily activity in its forum than this device does. Amazon Fire tab is only a month old, but its bootloader is locked and is about as budget as it comes, and their development forum has CM and Slim rom already, with a ton of action in the general and Q&A sections.
I'm not complaining or taking any shots at our devs...believe me, I appreciate the hard work they put in. I just wish they had some help from a few more devs. This is such a cheap phone I really thought we'd be seeing a lot more action than we are at this point in the game, but we mostly only see users from countries that don't seem to harbor quite as many devs as some....or at least not devs who post here, to be fair
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There are plenty of apps and xposed modules which can mimic ambient display, as well as improve on it greatly. I used to use one app called gravity for my N4 which lets you choose the sensors to enable to wake the display. This was probably a full year or two before Motorola released the original Moto X with its ambient features. Personally, I think Moto G's ambient display is pretty barebone, and I really would like to see more options. If you use the stock rom you won't get any light sensor wake, so if you wave your hand it won't wake up. That's actually just a Moto X thing, and CM found a way to add that into their app for Moto G.
I would love to see an official PA build with working ambient display. That has always been my favorite custom rom, and it hasn't gotten much attention for our device.
Also, as the OP requested, kernels...there are a literal crapton of modules that can be added which would not only improve our battery life, but the device's overall performance, web speed, charge time, display color, etc....the possibilities here are almost endless.
So there are definitely things which can be improved upon for this device, IMHO. Just remember, what's perfect for you isn't perfect for everyone. I'm coming from around 5 years of Nexus devices. Trust me when I tell you, this forum feels like a ghost town, in comparison. The N4 is 4 generations old now, and it still sees more daily activity in its forum than this device does. Amazon Fire tab is only a month old, but its bootloader is locked and is about as budget as it comes, and their development forum has CM and Slim rom already, with a ton of action in the general and Q&A sections.
I'm not complaining or taking any shots at our devs...believe me, I appreciate the hard work they put in. I just wish they had some help from a few more devs. This is such a cheap phone I really thought we'd be seeing a lot more action than we are at this point in the game, but we mostly only see users from countries that don't seem to harbor quite as many devs as some....or at least not devs who post here, to be fair
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Totally agree with you. It's really strange there's so few devs, its just an awesome budget phone. I'm with you with PA, best ROM IMO. When I saw the post from it I got really excited and after 2 builds the guy disappeared.
Maybe we will have to start compiling ourselves I have no idea, but I would like to learn.
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Totally agree with you. It's really strange there's so few devs, its just an awesome budget phone. I'm with you with PA, best ROM IMO. When I saw the post from it I got really excited and after 2 builds the guy disappeared.
Maybe we will have to start compiling ourselves I have no idea, but I would like to learn.
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@scritch007 never disappeared he's maintaining 6.0 CAF
What do you want more?? Blu_spark kernel is good for me
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What do you want more?? Blu_spark kernel is good for me
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there are so many things kernels can do that none posted here offer....
screen gamma (color correction)
TCP congestion control (aka web speed boost)
charging voltage (speeds up charging)
volume boost
multi boot roms
i/o read/write speed
touchscreen accuracy
wake lock control
ram tuning
cpu and gpu governors (we only have a few built into our available kernels)
....and that's just a short cherry-picked list!!
We have a whopping TWO...no joke....two....custom kernels to choose from. Seriously, no offense...I really appreciate the work the devs have both put in, but having only two kernels to choose from just seems absolutely pathetic to me. This may not be an officially branded Google device, but it's easily the closest unofficial Google device I've ever seen. We should EASILY be keeping pace with the Nexus forums right now. Hell, Nexus 4 is now 4 years old and they get more posts in their forum in a few hours than we get all day.
There is a HUGE amount of things we are missing from kernels, and an even larger number of roms we don't have access to because they haven't been built.
I really don't think it's very unreasonable at all to ask capable devs to join our forum and build for us. Honestly....when was the last time you thought more choices was a bad thing?? I don't see this as being any different!
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Totally agree with you. It's really strange there's so few devs, its just an awesome budget phone. I'm with you with PA, best ROM IMO. When I saw the post from it I got really excited and after 2 builds the guy disappeared.
Maybe we will have to start compiling ourselves I have no idea, but I would like to learn.
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@scritch007 never disappeared he's maintaining 6.0 CAF
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At that time with CM12.1 going official for surnia I didn't have time to keep on with the PA builds + builds were partially broken for some time (some API issues), and now with CAF 6.0 builds I still don't have time to work on PA. I'm sorry for that.
The osprey was started in the official repo and I was hoping someone from PA would take it over, but it's not the case.
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What do you want more?? Blu_spark kernel is good for me
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Blue spark developer discontinued the project. That's the problem!
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At that time with CM12.1 going official for surnia I didn't have time to keep on with the PA builds + builds were partially broken for some time (some API issues), and now with CAF 6.0 builds I still don't have time to work on PA. I'm sorry for that.
The osprey was started in the official repo and I was hoping someone from PA would take it over, but it's not the case.
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Don't say sorry. You are doing hell of a work with caf. And PA is kinda dead now, I think they are preparing mm builds, but in the community from g+ they are saying project has not enough devs so they don't know if they are going to continue. Anyways man, great work with caf, o tried a few days ago keep it up!
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there are so many things kernels can do that none posted here offer....
screen gamma (color correction)
TCP congestion control (aka web speed boost)
charging voltage (speeds up charging)
volume boost
multi boot roms
i/o read/write speed
touchscreen accuracy
wake lock control
ram tuning
cpu and gpu governors (we only have a few built into our available kernels)
....and that's just a short cherry-picked list!!
We have a whopping TWO...no joke....two....custom kernels to choose from. Seriously, no offense...I really appreciate the work the devs have both put in, but having only two kernels to choose from just seems absolutely pathetic to me. This may not be an officially branded Google device, but it's easily the closest unofficial Google device I've ever seen. We should EASILY be keeping pace with the Nexus forums right now. Hell, Nexus 4 is now 4 years old and they get more posts in their forum in a few hours than we get all day.
There is a HUGE amount of things we are missing from kernels, and an even larger number of roms we don't have access to because they haven't been built.
I really don't think it's very unreasonable at all to ask capable devs to join our forum and build for us. Honestly....when was the last time you thought more choices was a bad thing?? I don't see this as being any different!
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Ah i see the problem, i hope there will be more kernels in the feature