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OS Comparison : Need Help.

Hello everyone,
I am currently working on a large OS comparison for my memoire.
I have not started yet but I know I want my main subject to be competition over the Smartphone Industry. One part should be about advertising campaigns and this comparison was born when I saw the iPhone commercial about "copy/paste". It appeared to me "WTF, WinMo could do that before I was born !".
Anyways, I am at a point where I am limited by money and information overflow.
1) I cannot buy all devices based on different OS to test it
2) I have trouble distinguishing OS limitation/Hardware limitations especially on iPhone OS 2.2.1 and 3.0 // and Symbia S60 based-devices.
I tried to list some key features (for 3 OS for now, 2 versions of them).
I have not worked on S60 or RIM OS at all for now.
Please, find enclosed my first draft.
Any help is more than welcome.
You can contact me directly via email at wahid.razali (a) gmail.com
You're the best.
Thanks a lot.
Note: Excuse my English, I'm French.
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Enclosed: ZIP file containing my XLS comparison.

PDK Platform Development Kit - Android Comes Faster

For me, the most important announcement about Android over the last few days this about the PDK - manufactures will have access to the newest version of Android 2-3 months earlier than usual. Google wants to make porting the latest version to devices faster.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/06/2...ng-faster-android-updates-from-manufacturers/
Comments?

Updates in android and windows

Updates for Android devices are always rolled by the gadget manufacturer, so every time Google introduces a new update we have to wait till the manufacturer of the device decides to roll it out, this obviously takes a lot of time and puts Android at a disadvantage against Apple and Microsoft.
For a Windows device irrespective of the manufacturer if Microsoft rolls out an update all can avail of that update through windows update. Android also being an open platform like Windows should be able to do the same.
If I have a software CD of Windows 7 I can install the software in any manufacturers PC and use it. I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
Why can't Android develop their platform to function in a similar manner so that once a new version of Android is released I can install it it any device and o fcourse put in the specific drivers to make it work if required.
With the approach of Microsoft looking very prominent now for both Smartphones and Tablets, this may just be a warning bell for Android, I hope they have their eyes and ears open.
Would be nice to know the views of others. As an Android user do you feel this would be a good step for Google?

kaus1108 said:
I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
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The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath

windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.

XDA is there for providing the latest update.
My phone was supported by Samsung till Gingerbread. But I got jelly bean from XDA devs just after a week after the source code release.
But it does have some bugs which cannot be solved without Samsung's help.
But if you wanted the fastest OEM updates, buy a Nexus.
But 50% of the people are normal users who do not care about updates and new android versions.
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SimonTS said:
The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath
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Thank you for the response and I do agree with what you say and the key to it is that there are certain things that Microsoft do and Google don't and how it is going to impact users in the future.
I remember when I moved from Windows Vista to Windows 7 all the Vista drivers were functioning allright after installing Windows 7 and I have also faced situations where I did not have certain drivers but the PC still functioned on generic drivers provided in the Windows software.
Don't you feel it would be much better if Google just released a Jelly Bean OS and left it to us to install it and I am sure that based on devices already in the market those drivers can always be included in the OS and each phone would pick its own based on its hardware. Only the new devices would need new ones which Google may not be able to provide. If this were true today I would be installing JB in my Galaxy S3 and not have to wait for Sammy.

djbijo said:
windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.
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No, Windows is quite open. Apple is the closed one.
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Lineage OS Automated ROMs: More than just a joke?

If you'll remember the April Fools joke on Lineage OS's website, there was this fake program called Br0Zip:
We know our users; their biggest desire is to be able to get a stable custom rom on their device. Painlessly.
Lineage supports a lot of devices, but this big number is still small when compared to the amount of the devices available in the market.
One of our main goals is to bring the latest Android version to all those forgotten devices, but we also focus on user experience and security improvements.
The main problem with this cool thing is that you need a developer that builds and fixes all the bugs. It’s a pain, we’ve done it many times.
But these days are gone now. We’re deprecating maintainers. Yeah - you read it right.
We’re proud to annouce our AI-powered revolutionary product called Br0zip.
Br0zipperEngine, is a powerful AI that powers Br0Zip. Given any .zip ROM or .img kernel of any device (yeah - any device) it’ll be able to generate a properly working ROM.
It’s cool, isn’t it? But wait - there’s more: we believe customization is important, and that’s why we implemented a feature selector in the ROM builder wizard, so you can make your ROM truly yours.
Anyone, including those who have never touched a single line of code now can be a talented developer and create their own bugless custom ROM for their device in seconds.
The best thing? It runs directly on your phone - you don’t even need a supercomputer.
Br0zip trial will included for free in the LineageOS builds.
We can’t wait to see what you’ll build with it.
Keep romming,
The Lineage Ink. team
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Despite the obvious fact that no such thing had been developed, it's actually a good idea.
Picture this: instead of flashing a ROM that adjusts itself (option 3 in the poll - imagine how large that would be if it had support for EVERY SINGLE FEATURE ever developed for Android devices!), have a program which, after the initial setup wizard, detects and downloads the necessary components for your device over the internet via some cloud-based server, then installs those components, restart if needed, and voila! You have a working ROM installed on your Android device. Very much like what Ubuntu, Debian, Mageia, and other Linux-based OSes do when not all the components required are supplied by the live CD or USB image.
What do you all think?

Ah, yes. this old thread. How popular it was back then... Well, at least I got an avatar out of that April Fool's joke.

Should google stop working on further android versions higher than android p?

Ever since the release of android, there's a boost in the requirements of people and the development is also upto the mark. ever year google is releasing its new api level of android. Now,the time came for us to discuss about the furthur api. Should google stop working on releasing a new api level greater than android p? Even Microsoft had stopped at windows 10 and started making windows 10 as most secure rather than working on new os like windows 11 or something....
Should google also start working on security and performance issues rather than working on a new api level amdroid?
Let me know. Thanks to the developers in advance :laugh:

sri_chandu said:
Ever since the release of android, there's a boost in the requirements of people and the development is also upto the mark. ever year google is releasing its new api level of android. Now,the time came for us to discuss about the furthur api. Should google stop working on releasing a new api level greater than android p? Even Microsoft had stopped at windows 10 and started making windows 10 as most secure rather than working on new os like windows 11 or something....
Should google also start working on security and performance issues rather than working on a new api level amdroid?
Let me know. Thanks to the developers in advance :laugh:
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Windows is still doing feature updates, just stop the name game, and charging for major updates.
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After releasing an android api,within less than a year,new api level is being introduced and people just go behind the latest android version, leaving their existing device (even if the device is a flag ship) just only for the one reason...."latest android" ?

sri_chandu said:
After releasing an android api,within less than a year,new api level is being introduced and people just go behind the latest android version, leaving their existing device (even if the device is a flag ship) just only for the one reason...."latest android" ?
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Issue is with manufacturers not wanting to implement updates.
Google is trying to mitigate that with treble, bypassing the manufacturers and updating the devices directly.
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