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The curve interests me as a way to view notifications without going into the device, but does it actually work like this?
In demos so far it looks like the screen is dimmed and bar active in night mode where you can then swipe for notifications, but could you say have the bar always tell you how many of X type you have and then you swipe to view before deciding if you want to go in I wonder, this could be an actual useful feature for the edge for my use.
Fatila said:
The curve interests me as a way to view notifications without going into the device, but does it actually work like this?
In demos so far it looks like the screen is dimmed and bar active in night mode where you can then swipe for notifications, but could you say have the bar always tell you how many of X type you have and then you swipe to view before deciding if you want to go in I wonder, this could be an actual useful feature for the edge for my use.
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I don't than most know yet, but since they are leaving it open source. Other devs can program different things.
Now people have the phone, wondering if they could update oh this.
Phone is still on desk with screen off. An email arrives. Any edge action?
Fatila said:
Now people have the phone, wondering if they could update oh this.
Phone is still on desk with screen off. An email arrives. Any edge action?
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Text messages show up on the Edge even when the phone is switched off but it also wakes up the main screen in the process. I noticed if the fingerprint lock is activated then you just hear the sound but dont see any notification.
I have also set other notifications but it doesn't seem to wake the edge panel. If the phone screen is turned on, notifications show up on the edge screen otherwise not. This annoys me buy hopefully firmware update will address these issues.
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Text messages show up on the Edge even when the phone is switched off but it also wakes up the main screen in the process. I noticed if the fingerprint lock is activated then you just hear the sound but dont see any notification.
I have also set other notifications but it doesn't seem to wake the edge panel. If the phone screen is turned on, notifications show up on the edge screen otherwise not. This annoys me buy hopefully firmware update will address these issues.
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I seen some videos and it seems to suck. You have to turn the phone to read them.
There should be a update to set it ti work like a normal android. Only time will tell.
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Yeah. An example, at night I received a message from ebay the notification sounded but the phone stayed asleep. I could rub the edge screen and it would display it in scrolling action with other notifications.
It seems like a software issue though. Hoping for a fix soon.
On our list of things to make a separate app for
Anybody used any with their new Moto X yet?
I ordered these last night.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=3...YGZQYTAUHAGQMA&H=TA8XIFSEL16HP8YFHXBP6I5U108A
Topaz 512 chips by WhizTags.
I'll let you know if they work, don't see any reason they shouldn't though.
I'd also be interested in what you use them for. I never got them for my Galaxy S4 because I was never sure what I would do with them. I understand how they work and what the potential uses are, but what is useful in the real world?
I'm currently using some rewritten droid tiles tags that I was using with my galaxy nexus. They work, but the Trigger app flashes on the screen when I scan them.
I've been using tags with profiles for a while now and I don't think I could go back. The automation achieved by tags beats any other process I've tried.
For example, when I leave my room I scan a tag which turns off WiFi and changes volume settings. Then, when I get to my car I scan another tag that turns on Bluetooth, launches Car Home Ultra, connects to my Bluetooth FM transmitter, and plays Pandora. Its much easier than unlocking the phone and changing the settings and launching the apps manually.
I plan on attaching one to my car dock for launching google play music, and pairing with my stereo.
And maybe putting one on my TV remote for launching Netflix or something.
But really I'm just looking forward to experimenting.
I really liked having root so I could modify the NFC apk to allow NFC with the screen locked or off. I know its a security concern, but unlocking the screen is a minor inconvenience.
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I really liked having root so I could modify the NFC apk to allow NFC with the screen locked or off. I know its a security concern, but unlocking the screen is a minor inconvenience.
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This would be a useful feature.
Sadly, no root for VZW. Yet. *crosses fingers*
I'm using this xposed module to activate torchlight without turning on the device and it works like a charm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-home-volume-button-t2637235
It would be reeeeaaaly neat wenn they could also add NFC to this module!!
EDIT: I already wrote to that guy (Wanam) few hours ago asking if there was a possibility of having such a module in future..
His answer was: "No plans for a HW toggle for NFC" [emoji53]
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Anybody know what exactly qualifies as the screen being "On"?
Is the Screen "on" when Moto Display is showing the time and notifications?
Just got them. They work great.
Bonus points, no duplicate colors.
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Anybody know what exactly qualifies as the screen being "On"?
Is the Screen "on" when Moto Display is showing the time and notifications?
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No. The screen must be on and unlocked. This makes it too inconvenient to overcome the usefulness. If I have to power on and unlock the screen I might as well just manually turn on or off whatever feature I wanted at that point.
RhinoDoc said:
I'd also be interested in what you use them for. I never got them for my Galaxy S4 because I was never sure what I would do with them. I understand how they work and what the potential uses are, but what is useful in the real world?
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I used to use them with my Galaxy nexus. Here's what my setup was:
Office - disable BT, enable wifi, and set all sounds to vibrate
Car - enable BT, disable wifi, set sound to appropriate level and launch Spotify
Home - disable BT, enable wifi, and set sound to appropriate level
I would scan them upon arrival at one of those places. While they were useful, I found that there wasn't anything that they could do that I couldn't also do with Tasker. Although, I think the NFC tags are probably a better option since NFC uses minimal power as compared to Tasker functions (depending upon how you set them up, that is).
I haven't set the NFC stuff up since I got my X, but I will likely do so soon.
I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I too cannot believe this was left as a feature... I was hoping that would be fixed in the final version.
Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
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Bump.
This is actually a security issue.
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I agree but there's nothing in android. 3rd party lock screen is the only way.
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
cluster78 said:
a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
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does it matter if airplane mode is in quick settings or the main setting? if they want to steal your phone and put it into airplane mode, they will do it regardless if its in quick settings or the main settings. its stuff that you yourself use often that will appear in quick settings. i personally think its a great feature.
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But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
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But they should not be able to do it while the phone is locked. At very least we should have the option of what should be accessible without unlocking the phone.
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even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
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even if they were not in the quick settings, you can still pull down the notification bar while in the lockscreen, and go into the main settings. so, everything there is available to any thief.
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If i do that it prompts to unlock the phone
Heck, I'm not even worried about the security situation with this, I just want to disable it because I think it is extremely poorly executed!
It offers nothing that power toggles doesn't, and is not even configurable for what options are present. I never use auto-rotate, cast screen, invert colors, etc, and yet, those options are available instantly!
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a fix for this would be good, as anyone can just pick up your phone and change any of the quick settings without unlocking it.
So you would not be able to track the phone if it got nicked and someone just stuck it in airplane mode!
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They can also just remove the sim card or turn it off.
What I am looking for, is for the only possible thing you can do, while the phone is locked, is enter the password. Is there a way to set that up? Not be able to toggle any settings at all or remove the quick settings(I am ok with the emergency calling and camera widget, since you can't access the pictures on the phone until entering the password). I know they could still remove the sim or power off the phone but at least it might buy some more time if your phone gets stolen for you to track it or snap a pic of the thief. It would be nice if you could also disable the power menu and volume buttons while on the lock screen.
For now, until other solution is found or developed, you can go to notification settings and in 'When device is locked' change the setting to 'Hide sensitive notification content'. This disables access to quick settings from the lock screen but also hides titles of notifications, so you will see the notifications for emails, texts etc., but their content will be hidden.
This doesn't work. Well, if you have root and xposed you can install "Advanced Power Menu" to control the power menu on lockscreen etc and with GravityBox you can control the items on the quick settings. But I still couldn't figure out a way to totally disable it on the lockscreen.
As I remember the "X posed" Module "Notification Mod" could do exactly this. Problem is: It seems that development is discontinued and the stable ver1.2 doesn't (on my lollipop custom rom) work on 5.x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-notification-mod-t2501926/page23#post62958859
I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
No way to disable access to quiick settings on lock screen on unrooted Android M....
Try the Market anyway,
One solution for me on Android 6.01 was to disable WiFi, Bluetooth, Airplane Mode, Mobile Data from Quick Settings using Systen UI Tuner in Settings then downloaded Settings Extended app at the Market and moved all mentioned in SE's Notification Shortcut. Don't forget to enable "HIDE LOCK SCREEN NOTIFICATION" in Preferences which is the objective of all this anyway. So don't forget to ｃｌｉｃｋ this.
You can even disable everything in Quick Settings and instead put them all in SE Notification as Shortcuts. What's great about SE is that its Notification gets the icon color/shade/background color/color when toggled etc. perfectly in Android 6. Exactly the same. It looks like its really part of the Notification Screen except that there's that horizontal gap that separates the notifications and makes the screen fiddle faddle.
Try it anyway. It might be your only hope against lock screen vulnerability in unrooted Android 6.0 phones.
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I am seeing this in my new Samsung S7 edge... with finger print and password lock.... it is not there on S5 with finger print and password lock... its a silly feature... why would they turn it on ? My son just put my phone in airplane mode accidentaly.... and I kept wondering why no messages and calls for the whole weekend.... hate to think what it would be like if it happened to someone who was say, on a on-call emergency personnel or something like that.... no one would be able to reach out to them.... I guess now have to keep checking my phone every hour.... hahahaha... or maybe go back to using my S5.. if someone has a solution to this pls share... appreciate it.
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I have the same problem with my S7. Its weird that you cant change the wifi or bluetooth without unlocking the phone but when you select mobile data or airplane mode you can turn that off from the lockscreen so when your phone gets stolen, the thief can so easy turn that off that there is no way to trace your phone. Why do they even call this a smart phone while its so dumb?
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I've noticed that Android 5.0 allows to change many system settings (enable/disable WiFi/BlueTooth/Autorotate/etc) on its Lock Screen without entering any password.
I hate this liberty.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable this feature?
I cannot find anything in settings.
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I must apologise first, I’m not a nerdy-head about android, but I was thinking about my new phone (upgraded to A7) and your question is one that I sought out for answers.
In Nougat, I logged in as Guest and used a pin for the user so that a ‘guest’ can’t access the Guest account without my permission.
Then comes you’re question.
You can remove all the worrisome quick start icons from your quick settings (probably leave flashlight). Then use a 3rd party app (Notification Toggle is mine) which isn’t available to a user from a protected login.
As I’ve never had a lollypop viable phone I’m afraid another user might need to help you with a more detailed method for A5.
Hope it helps somewhat. As an old 8080 machine code programmer, it was always about solving problems and then working the bugs out. I'm not even sure how to post on these - socially thingy’s.
This issue it's still there in Nougat, so before it is passed on to Android O, we have to POPULARIZE this issue so they(Android developers) know how big of a pain in the ass it is. I'm posting the complaints to every forum, magazine, fan page, etc. When it's on the social media, they have to do something. This issue has survived because people don't want their friends to know about it, coz it's partly embarrassing...
I've recently configured the fingerprint scanner on my Lock Screen but notice that a whole bunch of phone functions are still accessible as Quick Settings are still available (well, some functions are).
Now, I'm not the first to notice this - this question has been asked before here and other places but an answer has never presented itself - not on stock firmware anyway. I think this may be a Lollipop "feature" so my question is does anyone knows if Marshmallow still does this or has it been fixed? I say fixed because locked phones shouldn't be turning stuff on & off in my pocket!
Not sure, I know samsung requires you're fingerprint or pin etc to turn on or off functions.
I'd check my Nexus 6 but it's in the mail to my brother right now.
Just to confirm, you can change the setting with it locked, the quicksettings don't just show you what's enabled? I don't have my Z5 yet so I can't check lol.
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No, not just a read-only display area. You can adjust brightness slider, toggle on/off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Flashlight, Airplane mode, Auto-rotate and LTE. My regular unlocked Quick Settings config has Mobile data and Stamina mode too. Weird that Airplane and LTE toggle are available on Lock Screen but somehow Mobile data and Stamina are "too important" to be left there.
I've read that removing all these from the regular Quick Settings will remove them from the Lock Screen cut-down version too but that's not really the point. I expect phone functions to be locked when the phone is.
Strange, I can see the use case for it, but it should be a toggle 'allow on lock screen' or something.
I've wanted to toggle bluetooth or airplane mode from the lock screen before, but at the same time I can see why having the ability to do that could be bad (evil coworkers lol)
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its not just about evil coworkers, its about thieves turning off Data+Wifi so you cannot use Device Manager !
a big security issue IMO.
Aye, though with features like reactivation lock is less of a issue since they won't be able to wipe and use the phone anyway. Still a security oversight though.
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Seems I've answered my own question
I tested this on a Nexus 5 running Marshmallow and it's the exact same scenario unfortunately so it doesn't look disabling Lock Screen Quick Setting access is coming to the Z5 either.
I've also tested an iPhone running iOS 9.1 and access to the Control Center (which has Airplane mode toggle too) is configurable to NOT be available on the Lock Screen.
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Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.
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Yes that's totally nuts! What's the point of using fingerprint as security feature when you can turn off the phone using on/off button and all you mentioned above from the lockscreen! I used to use Xperia xposed or gravity box to configure it so it wouldn't but no root here.
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Ah yes, forgot about on/off also being available. Turns out on/off is also available on iOS 9.1 lock screen even with Control Center access disabled so both iOS and Android behave the same there.
So it kinda cuts down the use cases for the find phone functionality on both.
Even on Marshmallow on the Nexus 5 Google have made it so location doesn't display on the toggles on the lockscreen for security of lost devices. But you can disable data still, the thing you need to tell the device to locate itself... Big fail...
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Lawyers?
Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?
Problem still exists up to date
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Makes me wonder if Google/Apple lawyers have piped up with, "You know, one of these days some guy is gonna hunt down the thief that stole his fancy phone and get himself killed. Now we don't want to be liable for that so let's leave an option open to the experienced thief to turn off the phone!"
Too fanciful?
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That's quite a good one :laugh::laugh:
Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this
Cheers!
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Hi guys.
I'm one of those who do not have lockscreens in my phones.
Also, I love the double tap to unlock feature. Been using it on my G2, G3, OnePlus3T.
This feature on the Pixel only works if you have a lockscreen. This is more like a "double tap to lockscreen" rather than "double tap to wake".
Is there a way around this?
Now I know there are apps that do this, but they are not managed by the kernel, are unstable and drain more batt than they should. I'm hoping a dev can look into this [emoji14]
Cheers!
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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.
I tried to get the double tap only to work as well but I failed. I don’t need to lock my phone either. Coming from BB10 where all I had to do was swipe up to unlock my phone man that was great. A slight swipe would show the lock screen a full swipe gesture would unlock the phone. None of this involves touching the power button I am simply talking about picking the phone up and swiping without hitting the power. BB10 was awesome it really was great but I think the lack of apps didn’t allow it to shine.
The finger print to unlock is pretty quick and easy but if your phone is position in a way that your not going to unlock it with your finger you have to use a pin or pattern to unlock.
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I agree with every single thing you wrote. I don't like to lock my phones either, but like to have the raise-to-wake feature. I happen to like Gravity Screen, but as you found, it does eat battery to set it up the exact way I want (use motion instead of proximity). So this is what I do. Establish a lock method so tap-to-wake or raise-to-wake works. Then turn around and create smart lock situations to bypass that lock. For example, I establish smart lock by locations, and by Bluetooth connections. Since I always wear a smart watch of some kind, it leaves my phones unlocked, but tap-to-wake still works.
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Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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The really nice thing about Gravity Screen is that it puts you back where you left it, not the lock screen.
MasK said:
Thanks for you replies, guys.
I didn't find the trusted devices method that reliable for some reason. I do have a smartwatch I use for work, but not for leisure, so I will not have a consistent experience unlocking the device. Also, this only work if it's secure (other than swipe).
So in order to use the T2W feature, you might as well have at least a simple swipe lockscreen.
Also, I tried something else last night. Elemental X kernel. It has T2W built in and works pretty alright. It is more sensitive (original implementations require you to tap with a little force) and 2 gentle touches is all that's required to unlock. Does not consume a lot of battery.
I may check out Gravity screen as well, to prevent accidental unlocks when it is upside-down (in my pocket) and that should do it.
And yea, I was also trying out Tasker, automating "swipe up" when I wake up the device. Didn't go too well. In case you guys wanna tinker with it, lemme know if you get it to work
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I would be interested in implementing a Tasker profile to do this. I'll let you know if I get anything good.
I finally turned it off. Fingerprint scanner doesn't work even though the scroll up and down still does so I'll live.
Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Not sure if it would work, but what if you disabled double tap in the rom, disable lock screen in the rom and flash Elemental kernel and enable double tap with it?
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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.
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Instead of flashing that kernel, flar2 also created a stand-alone app called Wake Gestures to accomplish just that. The app can be downloaded from his signature line.
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I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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I'm not familiar with the app. Does it drain battery like some of the others that people have mentioned in this thread. I really like Elemental in that I can also enable sweep2sleep. I've actually been using the stock DT2W and Elemental just for the sleep function.
I keep my phone propped on my desk at work and can quickly lock and unlock it as needed.
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The app is created by flar2, the creator of ElementalX, so I don't believe it would be any different than his kernel. I use it and I do not experience drain. One additional feature the app has is the extra protection of accidental pocket turn-ons.