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Hi,
I just got my Note 3 and was annoyed by the hole knox issue so i started to read back & forward after a few hours i found this program called kingo which i liked cause i only had to install it and start the program and the rest was done for me by the program.
Here are the easy steps to rooting.
1. Install the Note 3 drivers on the PC "all i did was plug-in the phone and it was installed for me".
2. Install Kingo (LINKS REMOVED)
3. Open the program and follow the simple instructions on you monitor.
When it's done you are rooted and your knox will still be 0x0.
After this i used Odin to flash the TWRP 2.6.3.7 and the knox was still 0x0.
I then shut off the phone to reboot into TWRP and did a backup of the stock rom rooted. Once done backing up the rom i rebooted into download mode and noticed that it knox was changed to 0x1.
So if you want root on stock rom then this is the easiest solution but you wont get custom recovery nor custom roms without tripping the knox counter for now.
Great does it work with latest stock firmware mj7
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Doesn't work with MJ7, as posted on their Facebook page.
I did this with MJ2
Zionator said:
I did this with MJ2
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If you did not absolutely need a custom recovery/kernel you should have gone with URDLV and you could have kept knox 0x0
xclub_101 said:
If you did not absolutely need a custom recovery/kernel you should have gone with URDLV and you could have kept knox 0x0
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Zionator said:
Hi,
I just got my Note 3 and was annoyed by the hole knox issue so i started to read back & forward after a few hours i found this program called kingo which i liked cause i only had to install it and start the program and the rest was done for me by the program.
Here are the easy steps to rooting.
1. Install the Note 3 drivers on the PC "all i did was plug-in the phone and it was installed for me".
2. Install Kingo from here.
3. Open the program and follow the simple instructions on you monitor.
When it's done you are rooted and your knox will still be 0x0.
After this i used Odin to flash the TWRP 2.6.3.7 and the knox was still 0x0.
I then shut off the phone to reboot into TWRP and did a backup of the stock rom rooted. Once done backing up the rom i rebooted into download mode and noticed that it knox was changed to 0x1.
So if you want root on stock rom then this is the easiest solution but you wont get custom recovery nor custom roms without tripping the knox counter for now.
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As far as I know Kingo is banned on XDA forums until further notice, unless they finally got approved? Not to get you paranoid or anything, but suspicious communications with a chinese server were part of the rooting method you just used.
blumsen said:
As far as I know Kingo is banned on XDA forums until further notice, unless they finally got approved? Not to get you paranoid or anything, but suspicious communications with a chinese server were part of the rooting method you just used.
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Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
Zionator said:
Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
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It was suspected of sending your IMEI #. Don't know the details.....
Zionator said:
Why is it suspicious ? I mean it's most likely downloading what's needed for rooting and bypassing the knox system.
If it was banned then there should be a post so others know about it.
I am using Zonealarm firewall and i wasn't made aware of any suspicious behaviour.
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1. It is suspicious because nobody knows who Kingo are. It is suspicious because the process is not transparent and it was not known what kind of information is collected from your device (or why) and what information is received (and possibly installed on your PC/ device). The exploit that they use for rooting is also kept secret. The server's IP they use is chinese. Some of the information they collect is arguably not necessary (for example your device's IMEI). The communication with Kingo is over a facebook page. Hmm.. can't think of more suspicious things right now, but that is plenty I think
2. "It is most likely just.." yes that is true. and for 99% of users that is good enough. Myself, I will lose my job if my clients/ employers find such a huge security hole which I am aware of and ignore. But then again they also expect me to never get near the WWW with my work phone or computer, I am not allowed to have a wifi module in my work laptop! You can see why a "probably just a harmless connection to China" is just not good enough in some situations.
3. If you do a search on XDA for Kingo, you will see that all threads were closed by admins.
4. Time for you to get a new firewall, or tinker with the settings!
Zionator said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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With firmware before MJ3 there is a separate method called Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV) which is a lot more transparent and which (as long as you keep updating with Mobile Odin Pro and you do not change stock kernel and stock recovery) is giving you full root while keeping your Knox 0x0 (if you had it 0x0 before URDLV).
xclub_101 said:
With firmware before MJ3 there is a separate method called Universal Root De La Vega (URDLV) which is a lot more transparent and which (as long as you keep updating with Mobile Odin Pro and you do not change stock kernel and stock recovery) is giving you full root while keeping your Knox 0x0 (if you had it 0x0 before URDLV).
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Oh ok but i have already flashed a custom recovery and rom. To hell with the warranty. I have never liked any stock roms and i like my freedom so my knox will most likely look like 0x2 now.
Kingo : Well if it's that bad then i am sure the moderators will close this and had i known this was the issue then i wouldn't have made this thread. However i would still have used this method if i knew this before as i never stay on stock rom and after finding out about the stupid chip that cant be recoded i didn't wanna wait for someone to come with a solution in one years time so i flashed the rom and recovery and now enjoying the phone
So if the Kingo really is that bad it has been wiped from my phone when i flashed a new rom.
Does not belong in Original Development, you did not create Kingo.
Moved to General
Use at your own risk. Rooting process has been known to collect and transmit IMEI and Serial numbers to China
FNSM
Before I even read the posts and start asking questions, I would like to know one thing. That is what does that United Arab Emirates mean in the pic below, its my screen after entering "About"
and can I root my device without any sort of issues?
iTTi said:
Before I even read the posts and start asking questions, I would like to know one thing. That is what does that United Arab Emirates mean in the pic below, its my screen after entering "About"
and can I root my device without any sort of issues?
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http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
kennyglass123 said:
Does not belong in Original Development, you did not create Kingo.
Moved to General
Use at your own risk. Rooting process has been known to collect and transmit IMEI and Serial numbers to China
FNSM
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Just FYI - but Kingo stopped collecting the IMEI numbers a few versions ago.
mvansomeren said:
Just FYI - but Kingo stopped collecting the IMEI numbers a few versions ago.
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That is great news! Our security expert has not been available to confirm this and Kingo has not sent us any correspondence to notify us of that. Has anyone confirmed this by recording data traffic while rooting?
Ok i have been reading around the net and all the reported security issues comes back to XDA.
wmshua.com is the site the connection is sent out to but is it possible that the app connects to their servers only in order to download the appropriate phone/device drivers.
On there web site under F.A.Q's
Q. Why don't you publish your source code?
A1. We kind of hope, in the future, Kingo Android Root could generate revenue to support our staff (STILL FREE FOR USERS). We all know that, in the long run, interest alone cannot make a living. To develop better software, we need to be financially motivated aside from being driven by passion.
A2. We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for.
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However it pushes Chainfires SuperSU to the device's and apparently they didn't ask him for his permission to use his work.
All in all i don't think isn't a matter of security issue anymore but more likely a matter of hard fellings that they stole Chainfires SuperSU to use in there app without asking him.
Correct me if i am wrong ?
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http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
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Knox 0x0 is the warranty thingy right? I have no warranty. So whats next?
xclub_101 said:
http://www.tra.gov.ae/mynumber.php
Regardless of TRA ID - at this point you can not root MJ7 and keep knox 0x0.
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Is it not possible to root MJ7 using knigo! or rooting MJ7 using kingo will trigger knox ?
hy people.
its my first time on galaxy s6 here. for months i had the 5.0.2 firmware original, nothing changed, perfect. it was really fastest.
but when it comes out the 5.1.1 update, problems started. really bad battery life (i never had this problem), more lags un the transition animations, i can confirm this because for four moths i never had lag where now there are prominently.
so now i decide to come back to a rom/firmware with the 5.0.2 (0 problems in that firmware).
is there a possibility now?.
let me know, thanks. I'm on "G920FXXU2POFJ" (vodafone italy).
It's not possible to downgrade from 5.1.1
Nope. Not possible. Im getting a worse battery life than i had in 5.0.2 since now i don't root to greenefy a lot of apps. Still it is usable. When a root without tripping knox is available everything will be fine again.
tntgdh said:
Nope. Not possible. Im getting a worse battery life than i had in 5.0.2 since now i don't root to greenefy a lot of apps. Still it is usable. When a root without tripping knox is available everything will be fine again.
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i hope so, thank you guys
tntgdh said:
When a root without tripping knox is available everything will be fine again.
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There is a good chance that root without tripping KNOX may not ever happen again. Then people will have to choose if they still want root or not tripping KNOX.
krelvinaz said:
There is a good chance that root without tripping KNOX may not ever happen again. Then people will have to choose if they still want root or not tripping KNOX.
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I thought about that. In that case i would choose root. I giving some time to see if anyone can do it first. If not i will root it anyway
guys. I'm thinking. since there is on way to downgrade now, I'm on the 5.1.1 vodafone brand, can i install a ITV 5.1.1 NO-BRAND?
Anyone knows which post should I follow in order to get updates about 5.1.1 rooting? I've flashed manually (stock 5.1.1 on G920I) and I really regret that I can't root and install Xtrestolite right now.
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
XxLordxX said:
Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
I'm looking to root my phone, but I have a few questions. I just want to make sure I'm using a method that will work for my phone as I seem to have an uncommon version. I'm on a small carrier, and I'm questioning how I can root without tripping KNOX. Every guide I've found seems to indicate there are questions about rooting my phone. My build version also never shows up on any of the guides as a supported build.
Relevant information:
Galaxy S6
Model: SM-G920R6
Android Version: 5.0.2
Baseband Version: G920R6WWU2AOF2
KNOX version: 2.4
Anyone able to point me to a root that will work, and not trigger KNOX? Any guides are welcome as well!
As far as I know there isnt a way to root without triggering knox , and if you want to root you could probly find a guide quite eaisly , if its that you want to still be able to use knox secured apps etc use magisk
BluePanther7 said:
I'm looking to root my phone, but I have a few questions. I just want to make sure I'm using a method that will work for my phone as I seem to have an uncommon version. I'm on a small carrier, and I'm questioning how I can root without tripping KNOX. Every guide I've found seems to indicate there are questions about rooting my phone. My build version also never shows up on any of the guides as a supported build.
Relevant information:
Galaxy S6
Model: SM-G920R6
Android Version: 5.0.2
Baseband Version: G920R6WWU2AOF2
KNOX version: 2.4
Anyone able to point me to a root that will work, and not trigger KNOX? Any guides are welcome as well!
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If You still on 5.0.2 then try PingPong root... its not triggering method
vteccorp said:
If You still on 5.0.2 then try PingPong root... its not triggering method
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I tried PingPong. It notified me that it could not complete (I assume because I have an unsupported version).
hairyfred said:
As far as I know there isnt a way to root without triggering knox , and if you want to root you could probly find a guide quite eaisly , if its that you want to still be able to use knox secured apps etc use magisk
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Will Android Pay still work with magisk? I'm not familiar with it. I was under the impression that I would be permanently unable to use mobile payment applications if Knox was triggered. Is that wrong?
BluePanther7 said:
Will Android Pay still work with magisk? I'm not familiar with it. I was under the impression that I would be permanently unable to use mobile payment applications if Knox was triggered. Is that wrong?
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Yes it will , enable magisk hide and it should work , android pay dosnt use knox , i think samsung pay does but android pay is not effected by knox
Install magisk and it will all be fine
Also for rooting , just flash twrp with odin then flash magisk for root etc
1. Did anyone try KingRoot and found a working method?
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
Thanks.
1) no
2) no one used it so they can't say what it does, if anything
Mystixor said:
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
Thanks.
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Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
the_scotsman said:
Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
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Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Mystixor said:
Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
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Mystixor said:
Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
Sent from my SM-G955F using XDA Labs
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Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system files.
The Knox security bombproof to the level that a physical fuse is blown inside the phone when Knox is tripped, meaning there is no way to un-trip Knox through software once it's been tripped. It's possible to fool the ROM to think that it's not tripped (like some S8 ported ROMs, to enable secure folder), but warranty can never be restored, as the Knox counter in download mode can't be tricked.
galaxyYtester said:
Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system.
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It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
skinza said:
It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
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That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
galaxyYtester said:
That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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Yep, Knox is totally solid these days. Its impossible to not trip it when rooting. F*** it and root the phone anyway, if it breaks ill claim it on insurance not through warranty.
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galaxyYtester said:
That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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I didn't mean that, I meant that if you rooted with a method that worked through bootloader (Not kingoroot), you still could restore Knox to not tripped through root tools. Knox security used to be that simple to bypass, nowadays it's impossible to revert once tripped.
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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BereanPK said:
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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Root became possible on note 4 after a program to alter cid to dev version was released. Also because something was possible before shouldn't mean it's possible anymore as things are updated, common sense.
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
the_scotsman said:
As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
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Definitely
Those days are over unless someone gets lucky,i know they wont though just wishful thinking
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
rk73 said:
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
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Both sides.
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