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Hi,
My friend is looking for a budget phone with good GPS capabilities.
So, what he is looking for is good GPS and good battery life so he can record his training logs, while cycling. Good battery life is important as he does some long distance rides which can go on for 2-3 days.
Also, looking for applications which will be useful to measure his cycling performance e.g. distance covered, altitude gain, etc.
Not going to happen. GPS reception and processing uses power. I got tops of 5 hours with myTracks application, on a new htc magic, with pretty much every other app closed.
As above. Unless your friend wants to pull a mobile generator around with him, there's just no way. Carrying a spare battery would obviously be a bonus though as long as he can charge both each night.
And even if you found a unit with good battery life, the problem is Garmin is still the best GPS software out there and it is currently only available for iPhone or WM6.
A situation I hope Garmin soon corrects.
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this but wouldn't any Nokia phone be fit enough for this, too?
Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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born_fisherman said:
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
Jacobz1996 said:
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.
LucariX said:
I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
I average %5 per hour.
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I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!
I've been using the phone for about 48 hours now and just wanted to share my observations, likes and dislikes. First thing is the phone is exactly as advertised in terms of build quality and performance. My previous phone (still using it) was a galaxy quattro and comparing the two in terms of size was very revealing. Both screens are 4.5 inches BUT the Samsung is much bigger simply because it's a wider rectangle. My point here is not all manufacturer measurements are the same. The Jiayu is a narrower 4.5 screen. That's the downside of buying a phone online, not being able to handle it physically.
I bought from Minideal.net and apart from the delay due to the Chinese holidays everything went smoothly. It came rooted with english, google play, superuser and various other apps installed. Plus most chinese apps removed. I bought the 3000mah battery kit with wall charger, oversized stainless back cover and custom case for the larger battery cover. All top quality. That brings me to the battery life. So far, with quite heavy use I'm getting the same performance as with the quattro BUT I understand that the G5 battery software doesn't give accurate figures for the bigger battery because it's optimized for the 2000mah battery (check the spellmall.com forum). I can live with that since I'll learn over time what the battery numbers really mean plus I now have two batteries for it anyway.
My dislikes are minor but basically have to do with the user options. Firstly there is no way to have separate ringtones for each line like the Samsung. Secondly the narrower screen makes the keyboard much more cramped than on my quattro using Swiftkey on both. Other than those two dislikes the rest are minor quirks that an unfamiliar phone will always bring.
I have many likes and here are a few. Out the box it scored the advertised 16443 on Antutu then I loaded it with my favorite apps all of which ran it down to 4700! After tweaking a bit I managed to only get it to about 7600 so I uninstalled the battery saver and task manager crap whilst retaining Wakelock Detector and installed Greenify. Bingo! Performance jumped back to 16000+. So there's a lesson for all of us there. It's performing quick and smooth. The screen is very good, it's nice to have indicator lights again too. Right now my battery is at 64% (indicated) after 8.5 hours of quite heavy use. I haven't used it in the the last hour and it hasn't moved at all thanks to Greenify hibernating apps.
I'll continue this later but feel free to ask questions and I would love to hear from other users.
One more thing, it doesn't have 3G here in the States but I don’t miss it because neither did my quattro and I'm on wifi 80% of the time. If it ever becomes an issue I'll just get a dongle with some of the $200+ I've saved by not buying a big name brand and add it to my free data plan on T-Mobile.
Edit: I had to reboot the phone a few hours ago after using My Backup Pro to freeze the stock email app (I use the gmail app) and my battery % jumped up to 70% from 56%. So I can only conclude that the false battery indicator issue is valid and the new reading is probably the correct one. Intriguing/puzzling.
Update: It's 2:30pm here and battery on 30% from when I took it off the charger at 7am yesterday. 31.5 hours of moderate to heavy use. I'm loving this.
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Hi,
Thanks for the review! Have you already tried the GPS? How does it work?
M.
miklos13 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the review! Have you already tried the GPS? How does it work?
M.
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GPS works fine though I've only used it once with Google maps. Acquired satellites outdoors in about 15 seconds (I think).
Update: Battery ran down to 16% at 5pm today. Took it off charger at 10pm so we'll see how it does this time around.
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Satellite aquires fast in about 15 sec like said ,
But I've test it with Navigon Europe 5.20 and IGO Primo
and the placing on the map is totally disappointing . It places me on a parallel street
and the signal il lost every 10-15 sec and then reestablished but never on the correct position.
Testing it parallel with a I9305 it is a very big difference.
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Satellite aquires fast in about 15 sec like said ,
But I've test it with Navigon Europe 5.20 and IGO Primo
and the placing on the map is totally disappointing . It places me on a parallel street
and the signal il lost every 10-15 sec and then reestablished but never on the correct position.
Testing it parallel with a I9305 it is a very big difference.
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Thanks for the results. I am searyhing for a replacemenet of my Jiayu G2S because it has a crappy GPS. I think G5 is not the one for me then.
The accuracy isn't a problem for me once tuned properly with Faster gps and Mobile Uncle. Yesterday it took about 5 minutes+ to lock which is very frustrating. To be honest I'm having other issues with the phone now (external speaker not working, rebooting for no reason and a few other things) all of which is pushing me to wait for the new htc one dual sim and buy that instead. It's a pity because the phone is extremely smooth and quick.
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The accuracy isn't a problem for me once tuned properly with Faster gps and Mobile Uncle. Yesterday it took about 5 minutes+ to lock which is very frustrating. To be honest I'm having other issues with the phone now (external speaker not working, rebooting for no reason and a few other things) all of which is pushing me to wait for the new htc one dual sim and buy that instead. It's a pity because the phone is extremely smooth and quick.
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Thanks, this sounds not good too...
miklos13 said:
Thanks, this sounds not good too...
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You're welcome. I would advise you not to buy it. I bought my wife the iNew V3 which she loves and my daughter the Lenovo p780 which she loves too. I'm currently looking at buying the Lenovo VibeZ, new htc one or Philips xenium w8560. Battery life is my main concern and the jiayu has superb battery life. If I can sort out the problems in the next few weeks I may keep it but right now that doesn't look likely.
Dintisor said:
Satellite aquires fast in about 15 sec like said ,
But I've test it with Navigon Europe 5.20 and IGO Primo
and the placing on the map is totally disappointing . It places me on a parallel street
and the signal il lost every 10-15 sec and then reestablished but never on the correct position.
Testing it parallel with a I9305 it is a very big difference.
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Hello! Can you give me sys.file for IGO Primo for jy g5?
10x
claulea said:
Hello! Can you give me sys.file for IGO Primo for jy g5?
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I can give u sys file ... but its not specific to Jiayu G5 .... it is made after a german tutorial with the Navigon 5.20 updated and registered to the IMEI on google play so i can also buy features and updates .. If u need advice PM me
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Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
For me it seams that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
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For me it seams that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
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Ah.. I'm new to this of concept of SOT. I don't know how it works. I can't imagine anyone sitting there staring at their phone literally for 8 hours! I work in the day and use it every now and then there, then when home when the wife isn't having a spazz at me for daring to go on the phone I use it now and then for using Kodi remote and youtube etc... I don't know how much screen on time that'd equate to.
Do you keep all things like bluetooth and GPS and 4G on or do you have to be careful with it like with all my old phones in order to get a full day? With my Note 4 as I say a breath of fresh air that I could keep everything on and just change battery once I got home.
Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
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Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
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Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
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It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
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As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
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Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
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Ah, like Stefan. He notices some but not much and it still sounds great. Thanks :good:
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I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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Yeah the more I look into it the more I think this is the case.
He seems like a nice decent likable chap who I'm assuming doesn't have a bias either way. But according to his "heavy use", when people say they're getting much better battery than his alleged figures he defines in his comments his heavy use as:
" i stream music from Spotify, watch YouTube, i have 5 email accounts syncing constantly, i get around 1000 emails an hour, 7 to 800 Telegram msgs an hour, fb,twitter, instagram, fb msg, /google Plus, snapchat, youtube studio, surfing the web, a couple of hrs phone calls, text messages, XDA, 500 Whats App msgs per Hour. This is how i test batterty life, and for me the Mate 9 can't deliver more than 6hrs SOT"
All I can say to that is WOW! Who on earth links five emails, gets 1000 emails AN HOUR, 100s of telegrams whatever they are, 500whatsapp messages PER HOUR (I mean that's one every 7.2 seconds!!!!). with loads of other stuff running and TWO HOURS of calls etc etc.. If doing all that with everything on he's getting 6 hours SOT then I can say I'm mightily impressed with it! Even heavy users wouldn't be be using it that much I'm sure. And if he can honestly say he gets the same SOT with iphones and samsungs with more powerful screens and smaller batteries all I can say is at worst I frankly don't believe it, at best he's got a dud Mate 9 or more likely all the aforementioned phones are awesome and we have nothign to worry about as 6 hrs SOT with a whatsapp message every 7.2seconds and an email every 3.6seconds plus all the other **** running is very respectable.
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
leo72793 said:
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
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Ok thanks
Strange though because people are saying the B156 one is fine. Opposite to your experience.
Maybe the battery just goes crazy and dies at some point?
applehater00 said:
Hi guys,
Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
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whatever the reason is i bet every user have diff usage n diff type of apps running in their phone,but all i can say this phone can last me from 7.30 til 11.30pm with everything on(except for BT n NFC) and most of the time i m on 4g,i can get 6-7 hours of SOT with whatsapp,email,telegram heavy chrome browsing,youtubing,xda-ing,some gaming(coc,skyforce).and when i wanted to go tl bed at 11.30 it still have 20% left
applehater00 said:
Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
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The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
Right now I have 89% left, 10 hours active, 33 mins SOT. I think I got 7h SOT yesterday and still 50% left.
Compared to my Note 4 which barely lasts 12 hours, and that's idle time.
RR-99 said:
The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
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Ah i see thanks.
Thats disappointing. I may wish ti get back into cycling and if it cant track my ride accurately it sounds like a dud. How ridiculous! Just as i was about to buy one another problem pops up.
I wonder if huawei just aren't ready for making phones...!
It's a shame, yes. There are of course many good things about the Mate 9. They just let it down on a few things.
my mate 9 gets 9-10 hours of heavy use - granted i have some mods and tweaks
I've been reading up on the camera distortion issue and I'm quite disappointed in Sony's attitude towards it but despite that, the device seems great and I ended up ordering one off eBay (the dual SIM model).
What's everyone's views on this phone knowing the camera has issues? Does it make you want to return your phone or are you keeping it?
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At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.
Artyomska said:
At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.
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I've been reading up on the camera distortion issue and I'm quite disappointed in Sony's attitude towards it but despite that, the device seems great and I ended up ordering one off eBay (the dual SIM model).
What's everyone's views on this phone knowing the camera has issues? Does it make you want to return your phone or are you keeping it?
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That's pretty much exactly what my thoughts on this phone are.
I highly recommend this phone. I just upgraded from an Xperia Z5 which was my very first Xperia phone, the second being my XZ Premium. I've had for almost exactly 2 weeks and I'm REALLY impressed by this thing.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using Bluetooth headphones, and the sound quality is phenomenal. The equalizer really kicks ass, it's way better than pretty much all of the equalizer apps I've tried. All of the equalizer apps I've used tend to lower the actual output volume way too much. With Sony's EQ enabled, your actual output volume won't be any lower than having the EQ disabled.
The overall performance is absolutely amazing. Responsiveness remains instantaneous no matter what I'm doing on the phone, or what's running in the background etc. It just WILL NOT SLOW DOWN!
The camera distortion is really a non issue to me. I believe it's just a software issue anyway. I take photos all the time on it and never noticed it until I saw it on this forum, then went and replicated it for myself. It's really no big deal at all for me personally.
Build quality is REALLY nice. This is a premium feeling phone to me. Only downside is that this phone will slide on any surface way too easily. If you have it on a perfectly flat smooth surface that has even a SLIGHT angle, this phone will slide down it. That does annoy me a bit, but I'll be getting a case for this phone anyway which will fix it. But I would 100% have still bought this phone even if I knew beforehand, it doesn't detract from actually using it.
Battery life is very good. If I charge it overnight from say 10-11pm and take it off charge at around 5-6am, I'll listen to about 45 mins to an hour of music or YouTube in the morning, browse in Chrome, reading and sending emails and also using SMS / Hangouts / FB messenger periodically throughout the day. After another hour of music or YouTube come around 5pm, it's sitting at around 65-70% battery. All of this is with BT left turned on, connected to WiFi most of the day, mobile data always on, location always on, brightness around 50%.
I'd easily recommend this phone. Bloody fantastic.
laes443 said:
That's pretty much exactly what my thoughts on this phone are.
I highly recommend this phone. I just upgraded from an Xperia Z5 which was my very first Xperia phone, the second being my XZ Premium. I've had for almost exactly 2 weeks and I'm REALLY impressed by this thing.
I listen to music a lot on my phone using Bluetooth headphones, and the sound quality is phenomenal. The equalizer really kicks ass, it's way better than pretty much all of the equalizer apps I've tried. All of the equalizer apps I've used tend to lower the actual output volume way too much. With Sony's EQ enabled, your actual output volume won't be any lower than having the EQ disabled.
The overall performance is absolutely amazing. Responsiveness remains instantaneous no matter what I'm doing on the phone, or what's running in the background etc. It just WILL NOT SLOW DOWN!
The camera distortion is really a non issue to me. I believe it's just a software issue anyway. I take photos all the time on it and never noticed it until I saw it on this forum, then went and replicated it for myself. It's really no big deal at all for me personally.
Build quality is REALLY nice. This is a premium feeling phone to me. Only downside is that this phone will slide on any surface way too easily. If you have it on a perfectly flat smooth surface that has even a SLIGHT angle, this phone will slide down it. That does annoy me a bit, but I'll be getting a case for this phone anyway which will fix it. But I would 100% have still bought this phone even if I knew beforehand, it doesn't detract from actually using it.
Battery life is very good. If I charge it overnight from say 10-11pm and take it off charge at around 5-6am, I'll listen to about 45 mins to an hour of music or YouTube in the morning, browse in Chrome, reading and sending emails and also using SMS / Hangouts / FB messenger periodically throughout the day. After another hour of music or YouTube come around 5pm, it's sitting at around 65-70% battery. All of this is with BT left turned on, connected to WiFi most of the day, mobile data always on, location always on, brightness around 50%.
I'd easily recommend this phone. Bloody fantastic.
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Agree 100%. I think the camera issue is phone dependant... meaning that mine does not appear to be as bad as some. Still hope that for those who are having issues that Sony comes out with a fix.
I agree with all the sentiment posted here. It really is a great device, and I'd definitely recommend it. I am hopeful that we'll have a safe DRM unlock / root solution at some point, but as stock Androids go, this beats most.
I barely notice the camera issue. All my photos so far have turned out fine but they are mainly of people and landscapes. I have had the phone 2 weeks now and honestly couldn't be happier, I use it as both my personal and professional device. I usually get a good day from a charge with a good 6.5-7 hours of SOT a day with multiple emails sent, a few calls and a few apps constantly running. I actually like the smart charge feature too, I only charge my phone during sleep hours so there is no inconvenience for me about charge time. I do miss there being no cap avarice buttons but only because my previous phone (Note 4) had them and I did like the full screen being an actual screen! For what I use this phone for it excels at but we all use ours differently. What usage are you wanting for your ideal device??
Artyomska said:
At first I really thought of returning it because the distortion issue, but it is pretty minor for me at least (compared to what other people have, the distortion in my phone isn't that bad). But forgetting this thing, I really like the phone. 6 weeks with it already, and it's performing damn good. The battery life is very good (7 hours SOT usually, and with my usage I only charge it once every two days), the performance is unbeatable, with a bit of tweaks the camera can shine, nothing bad to say about the build quality at all, and the most important thing for me, the sound output, is incredible. Also the display is very colorful, you can see no pixel on it, and the dark levels are very good for a non-amoled display. Didn't had any problems with wifi droppings in this weeks, and the LTE speed and stability is perfect. As cons I would say the lack of wireless charging and the bezels could have been smaller. But those issues are in no way more relevant than the pros. I am happy with my phone and I would recommend it.
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Hi, could you tell me the tweaks fpr the camera please
I have been using this phone for about 2 months now and here's my Honest review.
The Android OREO fixed many things. the camera in OREO includes an option "correction for image distortion" so the only issue of this phone "camera distortion" is gone. there is also DRM fix available for this phone now. performance-wise many people said that the phone lags on some games but thats a totally different story. Asphalt 8 and all other gameloft games have stutter issues. the games that doesnt work smooth are probably due to optimization issues. this phone can run GTA SA on fully max graphics. antutu score is 180,000 which is awesome. the LPDDR4X ram is fast enough to hold and process all data without any drop in performance. we all know that the 4k display is running in 1080p and only enables 4k in apps that support it (like youtube and sony album).
there are a lot of good things about this phone. some people said that the speakers are very quite but they are forgetting the fact that both speakers are facing towards the user so in a noisy environment too the sound can be heard by the user easily and is nothing to worry about. the 3D Creator app is fun to play with. the camera can be even better if you know how to use it in manual mode so that depends on preferences of the user. as for the charging speed, it is quite brilliant actually. for example if you need some battery urgently then a 15 min charge would give you 30-35% battery and you will be good to go for about 6+ hours (SOT would be less, depending on usage). as for me, i ordered the spigen carbon painted case for this phone and now the phone looks even better. better grip better handling. the phone just amazes in almost every aspect. i have used s8, op5 and iphone 8 but there is something special about XZ premium. it just is perfect in every aspect that you can think of.
The 3230mah battery seems small for 5.46' 4K display but its running 1080p that too on 10nm battery efficient chipset makes up for it.
PS: im not a fanboy or anything like that im reviewing what i experienced. there are goods and bads about every phone and according to that logic this phone has too many goods and very very rare bads which arent even noticeable.
Regards.
-Saad khalid.