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Ok, so I can do the EDGE program and get the M8. I have been reading and reading just about everything here. I am coming from an S3, and before that I had an HTC Rezound which I loved (love the S3 too) I just remember it being a little tricky to get S off on the Rezzy.....paperclip and timer needed. I was never able to do it. I was able to unlock through HTC Dev, but I understand that is not possible for this phone.
I am not all that good with adb etc.I know just enough to get into trouble I have been flashing phones and tablets for years, only one HTC tho (and I really didn't need s off at the time) The 3 samsung phones I have had in the past, Fascinate, Droid Charge and the S3 were fairly simple to root and flash roms.
I guess I'm just a little nervous about the commands and putting the files in the correct folders. One of the main reasons I want this phone is because of the removable memory (hard to come by these days) and the fact that I can still mod my phone. Any help you guys can give would be greatly appreciated
Thanks!
Root and S-Off Ridiculously easy. Follow the guides, copy/paste adb commands and that's it. There is NO tricky timing issues etc. It's all very straight forward. But I would get one and not piss around before they block the exploit.
putney1477 said:
Ok, so I can do the EDGE program and get the M8. I have been reading and reading just about everything here. I am coming from an S3, and before that I had an HTC Rezound which I loved (love the S3 too) I just remember it being a little tricky to get S off on the Rezzy.....paperclip and timer needed. I was never able to do it. I was able to unlock through HTC Dev, but I understand that is not possible for this phone.
I am not all that good with adb etc.I know just enough to get into trouble I have been flashing phones and tablets for years, only one HTC tho (and I really didn't need s off at the time) The 3 samsung phones I have had in the past, Fascinate, Droid Charge and the S3 were fairly simple to root and flash roms.
I guess I'm just a little nervous about the commands and putting the files in the correct folders. One of the main reasons I want this phone is because of the removable memory (hard to come by these days) and the fact that I can still mod my phone. Any help you guys can give would be greatly appreciated
Thanks!
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The directions for firewater(to get s-off) are pretty straight forward and I think some one had made a video too. Look into it if you are unsure but you should be able to do it.
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My take.....Galaxy S3 vs. HTC One M8
Putney, I came from a S3, and I'll give you my take.
The Galaxy 3 is a really great phone with many ways to tweak it. The HTC One M8 is still somewhat new, so you don't see as many tweaks you can do to the HTC as you could the S3. I haven't tried any of the few ROMs that are available for the HTC because I think the stock ROM runs really nice. It's not only smooth, but with the phone's faster processor, you'll notice it moves along faster than the S3. This is not to say these ROMs being developed aren't worth checking out. Obviously with more time, developers will come up with more and more options!
With the new Kit Kat that is installed on the HTC, you will have to install a workaround so you can use an Ext. Card as a storage device, because Kit Kat has enacted safeguards to only allow access to certain programs. I got mine to work, so it is possible to do. Of course you'll have to go through other steps to allow you to "free up' your HTC.
The sound is definitely better on the HTC with two speakers! The screen is bigger and looks great.
A big negative I've found, is the fact you can't access the battery. I liked the fact with the S3, you could change to a bigger battery size so your phone would last longer. My S3, with my new upgraded battery, lasted up to a day and a half. I don't think the HTC can even make it 24hrs. The HTC has a feature that you'll have to patch in yourself, or it comes with the new update, called "Extreme Power Savings Mode" that is supposed to save the battery. I just installed it yesterday, so I haven't used it enough to report on it.
Generally speaking, though, I'm glad that I went to the HTC. It obviously has other great features that I haven't touched on and the reviews I've read have been very positive. Never thought I'd give up my Samsung, but it looks like I made a good choice!
Just my 2 cents!
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Putney, I came from a S3, and I'll give you my take.
The Galaxy 3 is a really great phone with many ways to tweak it. The HTC One M8 is still somewhat new, so you don't see as many tweaks you can do to the HTC as you could the S3. I haven't tried any of the few ROMs that are available for the HTC because I think the stock ROM runs really nice. It's not only smooth, but with the phone's faster processor, you'll notice it moves along faster than the S3. This is not to say these ROMs being developed aren't worth checking out. Obviously with more time, developers will come up with more and more options!
With the new Kit Kat that is installed on the HTC, you will have to install a workaround so you can use an Ext. Card as a storage device, because Kit Kat has enacted safeguards to only allow access to certain programs. I got mine to work, so it is possible to do. Of course you'll have to go through other steps to allow you to "free up' your HTC.
The sound is definitely better on the HTC with two speakers! The screen is bigger and looks great.
A big negative I've found, is the fact you can't access the battery. I liked the fact with the S3, you could change to a bigger battery size so your phone would last longer. My S3, with my new upgraded battery, lasted up to a day and a half. I don't think the HTC can even make it 24hrs. The HTC has a feature that you'll have to patch in yourself, or it comes with the new update, called "Extreme Power Savings Mode" that is supposed to save the battery. I just installed it yesterday, so I haven't used it enough to report on it.
Generally speaking, though, I'm glad that I went to the HTC. It obviously has other great features that I haven't touched on and the reviews I've read have been very positive. Never thought I'd give up my Samsung, but it looks like I made a good choice!
Just my 2 cents!
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Thanks so much for your input!! This helps a lot! I will miss the removable battery....but I have chargers EVERYWHERE! I work at a school, there is one taped to my desk It is the same charger as my s3 right? I think they are all micro USB at this point.
When you said there is a workaround to free up the sd card, does that mean that I cant put my pics, videos and music on it?
Thanks again!
After I go to court today to evict a tenant, I will need serious retail therapy (yes I'm a chick) this phone is the therapy I need
Thanks again!!!
I watched ROOTJUNKY's you tube videos for installing weaksauce and firewater, looks pretty straightforward to me. Just need to roll up my sleeves and dive in!
To store pics, videos, and other files to the Ext Card, you WILL have to apply the workaround to your phone for you to do that. You can find it on Play Store. It's called: SD Fix: Kit Kat rewritable.
It requires root, so do all the other things before you install this.
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Battery isn't an issue. Took phone off charger at 5:30am and now it's 11:40am and I have 81% battery using Bluetooth, 4g lte connection, etc. This phone easily lasts people over 24hrs without using any battery save mode. Now if u play with it all day well come on, battery will drain slower with all the on screen time and what ur doing, that's any device. If u use this phone as a phone and some YouTube vids, FB, Twitter, tapatalk, some internet surfing, some dead trigger 2 gameplay, this phone will last you from when u woke up til u at least get home at night. It's that good! If you use battery save mode it will lasts longer! Extreme battery save mode haven't tested cud well, haven't needed it.
Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
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papamalo said:
Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
papamalo said:
that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
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I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
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I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
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Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
Senshi34 said:
Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
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Quoted the wrong guy...ask @papamalo
I've felt the same way about my new MotoX. I had a Galaxy S4, transition was smooth and fast
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brholt6 said:
I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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This device runs hot and not a case of settling down For whatever reason the 418 gpu runs hot and drains the battery with any app that tries to draw 1440p and math is involved. If the app scales graphics down, it runs normal. Examples of apps that can run the device hot are VR, Maps and a game example is Payback 2. VR apps in particular bake this device and should be avoided beyond a few minutes use.
The GPU needs to be better managed in the governor settings in firmware.
Just thought I'd toss this question out to all the Pixel owners, anyone just using their Pixel straightup stock ? I'm not sure if it's been bc I've been modding for 3+ years or this is my 3rd device which I can actually customize (other 2 were Nexus and still work), but the Pixel right now I've just loaded a custom kernel and rooted the stock image. I really use CF Lumen and it works best with root. I did try stock kernel, but it's not as good as Elemental X. Barring those 2, I feel like I'm at the point where the stock is ok.......either that or I've flashed too much haha :highfive:
I've been flashing since my Eris was OC to 750. Modded the heck out of my 5x with almost every rom and kernel.
I have not done anything to this device. I got the Verizon model in November and had the chance to depixel8. I decided to skip it and stay locked and I've not looked back. Not that I have much of a choice now anyway.
I take the OTA when it arrives reboot and done. The device is quick responsive, no random reboots, no mic problems, or shutdown issues. Perhaps I'm lucky but nonetheless I very rarely plug in during the day. Once I got down to 15% battery but only once. I get about 30 hours uptime according to stats. I don't bother with sot because I use the phone a lot and that is more draining for me.
I have my banking app, AP, pics, and some sensitive data that I feel safe with, relatively, with my locked bootloader. I still mess around with my 5x however. I flashed O build, relocked it, played around and unlocked again to flash back to stock. It keeps me from total withdrawal.
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yeah since im on the verizon model and i like android pay i havent tried any rooting or custom roms.
bobby janow said:
I've been flashing since my Eris was OC to 750. Modded the heck out of my 5x with almost every rom and kernel.
I have not done anything to this device. I got the Verizon model in November and had the chance to depixel8. I decided to skip it and stay locked and I've not looked back. Not that I have much of a choice now anyway.
I take the OTA when it arrives reboot and done. The device is quick responsive, no random reboots, no mic problems, or shutdown issues. Perhaps I'm lucky but nonetheless I very rarely plug in during the day. Once I got down to 15% battery but only once. I get about 30 hours uptime according to stats. I don't bother with sot because I use the phone a lot and that is more draining for me.
I have my banking app, AP, pics, and some sensitive data that I feel safe with, relatively, with my locked bootloader. I still mess around with my 5x however. I flashed O build, relocked it, played around and unlocked again to flash back to stock. It keeps me from total withdrawal.
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n00bpwner said:
yeah since im on the verizon model and i like android pay i havent tried any rooting or custom roms.
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The Nexus 5x is a nice little device. I also got mine modded and I am probably only one of the few that likes the build. I personally like that plastic. Durable and lightweight. Plus if it saves costs that's good as well, but I like the plastic types. I used the 5x to still mod and every now and then I'll switch phones and use it as a regular, but the Pixel runs pretty smooth I'll give Google credit. I don't care for the look of the phone, but it operates very well with no lag and I guess b/c I know I can mod my 5x I don't have as much of a need to mod the Pixel. I wondered if I was the only one. LOL
idgaf about the look of the phone. i have a speck grip case and its stealth black all the way.
I used to flash a lot on all my previous devices, but now I use the Pixel stock and I am completely satisfied.
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I used to flash a lot on all my previous devices, but now I use the Pixel stock and I am completely satisfied.
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I'm with you there. Honestly. When I did root/kernel/rom my pixel. I felt the strong urge to return it to stock for ease of updates and to ensure stability. So I did. And I've not ever used a stock phone since the G1.... Just don't need to mod anymore, personally.
I went though rooting etc with most of my previous phones gong way back and even with my last phone the Nexus 5X but eventually returned it to stock after I found Adguard and no longer needed root for ad blocking.
When I got my Pixel I didn't even think about it, while it was the Verizon version I had the chance to root it but didn't bother.
Phone just plain works without any mods, OTA'S are simple and all banking, android pay work without having to screw with it.
Phone is secure, fast and just plain works
Quite content.
Dwayne01 said:
I used to flash a lot on all my previous devices, but now I use the Pixel stock and I am completely satisfied.
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Ok decided to be submissive and restore back to stock and lock my bootloader. I've never used android pay in all 3 phones I've had lol. Feels weird.....
On the flip side at least my sh-t is working lol. The android auto was having issues connecting with my car on a custom rom. Standard ROM, no issues.
stock version is good enough and I didn't find any need to alter it.
I'm using mine stock but considering selling it or rooting it (Knowing me i'll cave and get a S8+ and sell it even though my gut is saying no). I am very picky but I really want to love my Pixel.
Anyway the issues that are annoying me are :
1. Mobile data doesn't always work on the play store, it just says I have no connection even though Chrome and Deezer and other apps use data fine, it is also intermittent and works on and off. If it stops working I have to reboot the phone.
2. I would like to be able to put the phone back to sleep with the finger print sensor as the power button is too high up for my tastes.
3. Texts and Emails do not come through during a call forcing me to miss important notifications, and they flood in once I put the phone down... not cool.
4. Apps constantly reload and refresh even though I have 1.3 to 1.7gb ram left over, even messages and phone etc.
(Of course this is the same in all android phones but thought Google might have this one sorted)
5. Google photos shows some grey tiles which look like blank photos but there aren't any there, and the app also freezes when deleting photos. If I reboot the grey tiles (ghost photos) disappear.
These things are driving me to distraction but I am loathe to root if custom roms don't fix them.
I have not factory reset as the phone is generally fast and I do not believe it will do anything but be a lesson in frustration.
P.S. I do love the Camera and the small form factor of the phone as well as the screen. I am also loving cardboard camera and all the VR side of things, just to put a more positive spin on things.
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I'm using mine stock but considering selling it or rooting it (Knowing me i'll cave and get a S8+ and sell it even though my gut is saying no). I am very picky but I really want to love my Pixel.
Anyway the issues that are annoying me are :
1. Mobile data doesn't always work on the play store, it just says I have no connection even though Chrome and Deezer and other apps use data fine, it is also intermittent and works on and off. If it stops working I have to reboot the phone.
2. I would like to be able to put the phone back to sleep with the finger print sensor as the power button is too high up for my tastes.
3. Texts and Emails do not come through during a call forcing me to miss important notifications, and they flood in once I put the phone down... not cool.
4. Apps constantly reload and refresh even though I have 1.3 to 1.7gb ram left over, even messages and phone etc.
(Of course this is the same in all android phones but thought Google might have this one sorted)
5. Google photos shows some grey tiles which look like blank photos but there aren't any there, and the app also freezes when deleting photos. If I reboot the grey tiles (ghost photos) disappear.
These things are driving me to distraction but I am loathe to root if custom roms don't fix them.
I have not factory reset as the phone is generally fast and I do not believe it will do anything but be a lesson in frustration.
P.S. I do love the Camera and the small form factor of the phone as well as the screen. I am also loving cardboard camera and all the VR side of things, just to put a more positive spin on things.
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I find the phone runs really smooth. The system does not lag like the Nexuses before this is a huge thing for me. I'm surprised you have had some stuttering. The S8 what I don't like is everything keeps getting larger. For women who use purses I find this to be less of an issue, but jamming a 5.5"+ phone in the pocket I got tired of doing that. I purposely got the 5x and pixel for the smaller size....and customization. I hope the jumbo phones eventually cap off or there are smaller alternatives available. If I need large screen size I'll get on a computer, but pocketing a 6" phone is cumbersome.
I know someone with the S7 and the camera on that is really good. From all the mfgs, I really only think Samsung can effectively bring to the table something to compete with Apple. LG, HTC and even the Pixel are fringe phones, but I'm even realistic that the Pixel isn't an "iphone killer" although I do love it a lot myself.
krelvinaz said:
I went though rooting etc with most of my previous phones gong way back and even with my last phone the Nexus 5X but eventually returned it to stock after I found Adguard and no longer needed root for ad blocking.
When I got my Pixel I didn't even think about it, while it was the Verizon version I had the chance to root it but didn't bother.
Phone just plain works without any mods, OTA'S are simple and all banking, android pay work without having to screw with it.
Phone is secure, fast and just plain works
Quite content.
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Do you have a subscription for Adguard ? Is it the VPN blocking type of thing ?
So far everything is working well. The only thing I miss a lot with root is CF lumen. The non-root CF lumen overlay looks horrible. I just use nightlight which is OK. Also adblocking. I tried one program earlier but it did not work as well as adaway. Still looking for a non root ad blocker.
Been rooting my phone since G1 and I have yet to find a real reason to root this device. I'm actually satisfied with stock, besides not having a true ad blocker I can't complain.
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Do you have a subscription for Adguard ? Is it the VPN blocking type of thing ?
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Yes and it works good for me.
krelvinaz said:
Yes and it works good for me.
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I'm using adguard and I noticed the ads in chrome are being blocked, but the ads in youtube are showing ? I have the HTTPS cert installed.
Also what's your experience been with battery life having the VPN constantly on ?
Me. I did contemplate rooting because hate ads, but I love Android Pay. And I'm getting very lazy to constantly keep up to date with all the different custom ROMs and mods. These days, I just let OTAs do the job.
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I'm using adguard and I noticed the ads in chrome are being blocked, but the ads in youtube are showing ? I have the HTTPS cert installed.
Also what's your experience been with battery life having the VPN constantly on ?
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I don't see ads on YouTube since I have YouTube Red (via Google Music family plan I have). I still see the stupid info banners but that is from the same data feed that the videos come from.
Its not perfect, but certainly cuts out most of the stupidity that shows up not only in the browser but also in most of the apps which still provide advertising even if you have a paid version.
A few apps are white listed as they don't work with it. I can either turn it off for a moment to access that app or just add them to the white list.
Examples: Alexa, Kasa and WeMo.
As for battery life, I get great battery life. I have WiFi turned on most of the time when I am at home and work, but don't use it normally when out and about.
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
Hopefully the next gen will be better.
I didn't have an issue with mine , but sold it today. I prefer the slick oneplus 8 pro. Less pork and more of an on point device.
Snapdragon or Exynos?
socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I would like to take over for FREE. Lol
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Ever considered you've gotten a lemon? I've literally had zero of those issues since the launch date
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I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.
socalstagetech said:
I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.
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I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.
socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining
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I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining
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That doesn't help.
Depending on the carrier firmware the same model can behave much different.
Took me close to 6 months to dial in my AT&T 10+, it was a handful. Running hot, chewing up the battery.
Today, a year latter, it's a totally different animal; fast, stable with good battery life and no glitches.
These phones are complex with a lot of settings plus added carrier and 3rd party apks not to mention the Samsung apks. No configuration is the same.
If you don't play with them you'll never get it optimized and you'll just be along for the ride... wherever it goes.
blackhawk said:
I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.
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Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
socalstagetech said:
Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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You're welcome.
A hard reboot (simulating pulling the battery) may get it too if you haven't try it. Again clearing the system cache can cure many gremlins like magic, easy to do and worth trying.
Another possibility is the phone was infected with a virus or trojan, this is very unlikely though unless you inadvertently downloaded or loaded it.
Scan it with Malwarebytes and Trojan Scanner.
If in doubt reload.
Normally reloads aren't a solution unless it's an old load or if compromised by a virus.
If you reload check the system before you load anything except from Playstore; assume the SD card or computer backups could be compromised as well.
If you reload avoid doing any updates at first as one of these could be causing the erratic behavior.
If you did a firmware update this could be the cause; clearing the system cache may fix it but a reload is better. I disable autoupdates especially from the carrier for this reason among others.
More than likely you get it sorted out or at worst return for repairs.
Reload it though before you return it. Fixable software/settings issues* are common on these phones.
Lol, Androids wuv to be played with... good luck
*if you have a clean load it's always preferable to find the cause of the malfunction rather than reloading as the same issue may well happen again from the same apk or incorrect setting(s).
socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Not even a single issue I have faced so far. Two month with me now. Fabulously amazing in every bit of it. Are you sure you have Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra there [emoji848]?
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out
socalstagetech said:
Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out
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Could be a bad mobo but it's easier to reload then to exchange it and then have the exact same issues.
Happened to me with the 10+, bt audio was horrible.
Return it and at first it was running normally then boom the exact same thing. I knew it was software but I didn't manually toggle it!
Samsung tech zero help, same-same with AT&T tech support.
The problem goes back at least as far as the N9 and that's where I found the solution.
It was a glitch in the advanced audio settings that sometimes toggles on by it's self probably due to a glitch in Wearables.
Samsung finally fixed it about a half year about with a Wearables update. It took them over 2 years.
If you knew about it, it was easy to simply untoggled it occasionally, if not it was an audio nightmare.
The only other way to reset it was a pointless reload.
I like the shotgun get it done approach but you can needlessly spend time without a solution if you don't first try to verify if it's hardware, bad flash or an issue that's pure software.
Out of the box this AT&T 10+ was a puking, bandwidth/battery eating, hot running mess besides the bt glitch.
Today with the same OS version and a lot of optimizing it's stable, fast, gorgeous looking platform with good battery life.
It wasn't even close to this out of the box...
If you don't take the time to play with these phones you'll miss the functionality they're capable of and put up will a lot of unpleasant experiences needlessly.
A misbehaving Android is an opportunity to learn new tricks. Just dive in... and see where it takes you.
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
RISHI RAJ said:
Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity
RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply ?
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.
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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity
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Exactly where is that setting at in developer options?
RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.
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Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.
blackhawk said:
Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.
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You don't need Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework enabled for the camera to work.
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
williec80 said:
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
Thank you the attentive answer, it not sounds too good . Not can be at a good and still cheap too
What is your proposal for the Galaxy A73 have you any experience this phone for regarding this topic?
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Thank you these usefull advise. i will try it asap and will feedback that what is the result.
This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
Also Facebook is a big resource hog. Even on an iPhone 13 it can stutter occasionally or even freezes specially in marketplace and makes the phone run hot. If you don't mind using the mobile version I would highly recommend using that instead the app.
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
dante501 said:
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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thank you the usefull and detail of rich description...
It is laggy because Samsung picked the weaker hardware for this phone (even though it sells for mid range price, there is no SD778 or Exynos 1080 or Dimensity 1200). As others said you could disable things and only use 60Hz screen. But if you haven't bought it yet you can buy the A52s which will be smoother.
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This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
kitchenfork said:
Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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I'm confused. I don't have Facebook on my A53 or ADB wasn't needed if it was originally (and not system app). Did you grab a carrier one? That would explain it to me. Not seeing lag on my unlocked A53.
If you grabbed an unlocked one then I don't know why you'd have lag unless it had a physical issue or you use something I don't use that causes it.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Enable developer options and disable all animations should fix this without the need for installing a 3rd party launcher or other software.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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If its only the camera from press to saved then the April update should mostly if not fully solve that. You have the April update yet or not?
For me it seems to be under a second after April update. Pre-April it was more like 3-5 seconds.
Not really something I would have cared that much about either way lol. Just have to get used to it.
I've had this phone almost a week now.. I have SwiftKey as my kb...
Can't say I've noticed any type of lag on this device... 120hz, dark mode background services running, wifi calling on you name it.
What are y'all even all the reviewers doing to experience lag??
Kind of would like to know lol
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
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A53 is not a "Budget" device. It is mid level. Samsung's budget devices are the A1#, A2# and A3# phones.