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[RANT] - Lollipop is not great, but tolerable

I was very excited to see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
So, I pushed ahead thinking that Lollipop has already been in the wild long enough, surely the initial kinks like WiFi drops and battery hogging have been resolved. No such luck, and after doing it, it looks like I'm going to have to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
Lollipop is horrible. My phone no longer does one of the most basic things that's been around since the G1: Go (the F) to sleep! Seriously?!?!
Here are my other problems:
-Phone doesn't sleep on its own if timeout set for longer than 30 seconds (and even then, it's not reliable)
-WiFi doesn't reconnect after sleep (when sleep even happens, which is only when I push the button to force it). I have to toggle WiFi off/on to reconnect.
-Battery drain is pretty bad. My first month with the S5 had me barely even thinking about charging. Now, with Lollipop, I feel like I'm back on my old HTC MyTouch!
-The silly way they implemented the lockscreen. Here's my problem: I can ONLY use Settings > Sound and Notification > While locked with the option "Do not show notifications". Why? Any other setting blocks the Owner Information (Settings > Lock screen > Owner Information). If I don't, and if I'm unfortunate enough to have lost my phone, yet fortunate enough to have it found by a good samaritan, I better hope I haven't miss any calls or received any messages in the meantime. This one REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS because it's a horribly-implemented Feature ... at least the others are unintended bugs, but somebody had to give this one the green light.
-I can't adjust the icon sizes anymore. There used to be a choice of large or small icons.
-Oh, and for some bonehead reason, Samsung decided their stock ROM wouldn't have the Lollipop built-in flashlight icon.
-Another intentional feature that I can't disable: the phone keeps a history of recent activity that persists through reboots. YUCK! Why can I not disable this?!?! Again, another bonehead call that somebody had to green-light, without even considering the possibility that I might want to turn it off!
-All the UI "polishing" and improvements don't mean a thing to me, I want it to work.
I found all of the above in less than 24 hours on Lollipop! I might lose my s**t entirely if I keep it for much longer.
Here is my take on why:
Google and Apple are in a heated race to the top. They wrongly assume that what will set each apart from one another is almost entirely dependent on what a few bloggers say about some hot new feature. The paradigm appears to be something like: "Who cares if millions of loyal subscribers lose functionality when we want 100 people to have this one obscure and half-baked feature?"
Latest != Greatest
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EDIT:
I've had a change of heart on this. It's not too bad, I just needed to adjust a few settings and live with the other issues.

I too do not like the lolli. Bad battery life, and for some reason the Heart rate monitor led turns on whenever anything is within a half inch of it. I just can't figure that out, but it sucks the battery like a red led vampire!
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Tldnr
Don't start a thread just to complain

Lmfao when I saw that link and clicked it, I actually had that same thread opened moments before opening this thread because I, too, am having to go back to KitKat. I laughed for a good 20 seconds. Lollipop is freaking terrible at the moment. Zero customization and Google + Samsung are forcing too much garbage on us without giving any bit of customization.

mygraine said:
I too do not like the lolli. Bad battery life, and for some reason the Heart rate monitor led turns on whenever anything is within a half inch of it. I just can't figure that out, but it sucks the battery like a red led vampire!
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Heart rate monitor thing was fixed in OC4 I think, but if it still goes off a factory reset will fix it.

Agree
OP, I agree with you. It probably is the first version without the definitely improvement overall for users. It is risky to upgrade and troublesome if it didn't work out well on your devices. Wish Android 5.1 could be better than Kitkat overall.

I have absolutely no problems with the lollipop. I always had it stock from the start and just let the OTAs take over on their own. Have you tried even rebooting into recovery and wipe cache? Even though it's not a custom recovery you can still do that, also even when you dirty flash nightlies that's something that's good practice. My wife's phone had similar issues that I wasn't experiencing, until I did that to her phone and now she's having no problems. Now the general annoyances of how Samsung implemented ****, I understand, it's stupid with not having native flashlight, tethering is annoying having to use foxfi, and the lockscreen.. bleh. But other than that, everything is actually working like it is supposed to

Chiming in, Yes it's bad.
I have two lines with Verizon, both with S5 phones on them. Great device, its actually the first Android phone I've had that I did not do anything with beyond the out of the box experience. That changed when Lollipop was pushed via OTA, the most prominent issue I experienced on both of my S5s is general responsiveness issues, simple things like switching apps or launching apps sometimes would leave me with a white screen for between 5-10 seconds, an eternity especially when the device was lighting fast on 4.4.4 Kitkat. I followed every suggestion from wiping the device in Android, Wiping in recovery, wiping cache, all of these with only marginal improvements. It really is a shame that Google / Samsung did not do a bit better quality assurance on this build before it was pushed out to carriers and ultimately peoples devices. It says something that other carriers skipped 5.0 and that very rapidly 5.1 surfaced on Newer devices / Nexus devices.
As of last night both of my phones are Odin'd back to 4.4.4 and its like having a brand new phone. Sure, there might not be as much polish, but there are no features I will die without having. The only one that I can say I do miss is the feature where the device will disable the lock screen when your smart watch or home WiFi is connected.
Here's to hoping that Google eventually gets Android 5 right in the optimization department and that Samsung picks it up for the S5, and that Verizon gets it ready for OTA before I am ready to move on to a new device. Not interested in the S6 at all for its sealed nature for storage and battery, but that's for another thread on a different day.
-Nate

I Have to agree. I've given it several chances to perform to expectations but it just fails.... ( insert sad puppy face here ) no matter what I have tried it just under-performs and the biggest thing is the horrible battery life. Sooooo yeah like most of the other commentators in this thread, I'm moving back to 4.4.4......

Unfortunately/fortunately, I have found most of my battery issues were solved with a factory reset. I'm more frustrated that Samsung seems to having issues with Android Auto.

ldeveraux said:
Tldnr
Don't start a thread just to complain
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Observations, not complaints. Getting these points out in the open is an essential stepping stone to getting them fixed. Maybe, just maybe, a Producteer or architect at Google has read this by now so they know what to improve next time. Problems cannot be solved until they are defined.
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UPDATE:
The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.

CaptainRewind said:
Observations, not complaints. Getting these points out in the open is an essential stepping stone to getting them fixed. Maybe, just maybe, a Producteer or architect at Google has read this by now so they know what to improve next time. Problems cannot be solved until they are defined.
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The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.
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Yeah, go start a petition, just like the bootloader guys, see how far it got them? No one from google reads your complaint threads and regrets their work...

ldeveraux said:
Yeah, go start a petition, just like the bootloader guys, see how far it got them? No one from google reads your complaint threads and regrets their work...
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Yeah, I guess that was wishful thinking.
In any case, it seems this thread was a complete waste of time. It made me feel better at the time, but looking back on it and the purpose of this site, it doesn't add any value or help anyone modify their phone. Not only that, one of my primary reasons for the OP was the screen lock issues which turned out to be an app, not the Android version.
So, I stand corrected. Live and learn. Enough said.

My wife would never let me root her phone ever. After this update either I find a way to go back a few with root or it goes against the wall. Looks like I have to start reading and figure out how to do this.

Lol I love how you described it. Sometimes you have to vent. Lol

CaptainRewind said:
UPDATE:
The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.
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Care to share where this app is?
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dk-v1 said:
Care to share where this app is?
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This is the one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&hl=en
It's a great app, but something about it staying active in the Notification Bar keeps the screen awake. I still use the app, just can't keep the notification active in Lollipop.
And in case it isn't obvious, even though I still have my concerns about Lollipop, I never did go about the procedure of downgrading. It looks like a risky procedure, and I don't want to trip Knox, or worse, have a brick.

CaptainRewind said:
This is the one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&hl=en
It's a great app, but something about it staying active in the Notification Bar keeps the screen awake. I still use the app, just can't keep the notification active in Lollipop.
And in case it isn't obvious, even though I still have my concerns about Lollipop, I never did go about the procedure of downgrading. It looks like a risky procedure, and I don't want to trip Knox, or worse, have a brick.
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Ok, so it's not a stock app. I am still having poor battery life and overheating issues.
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Switched from iPhone but my S6 is SO slow it's driving me crazy

Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!

Don't know what to tell you but to try a factory reset. I've had my phone for two months now and it's been blazing fast the whole time.
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ryuvann said:
Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!
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My S6 is damn fast, real you should try factory reset.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Buy this app and disable all unused or unwanted things to free up memory. It should help you a lot.

Does it back up all my info when I do that or is it like starting over? Not a huge deal I guess but yeah maybe I'll try it. Like for example sometimes I'll press home to turn on the screen, but I'll I guess accidentally press it twice so it goes to the camera. That's fine, but then I'll press home again, or back, and like nothing happens it just stays on the camera, not frozen like the image is updating live, then a second or two later it will go back to the home screen. Or I'll swipe to unlock on the lock screen, it does the bubble effect and nothing happens. I wait a sec swipe again, does the bubble as well, except it unlocks before I fully finish swiping, as in it was in the process of unlocking and I was just doing it twice.

One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.

ryuvann said:
One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.
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Well, that might be a key to solving your problem. Before Reset try first just to uninstall that "garbage" of app. It may solve your problem right away. I had some friends that also have that app installed and also problem with slow phone. Just uninstall of Clean Master solve that.
Let us know what happened.

Well that's the trade off between android and iPhone at the moment probably. iPhone may require less tweaking and trail and testing and how a phone can work.

ryuvann said:
One quick thing also, do you guys use Clean Master? It seems like it's required as it clears lots of ram and then the phone immediately speeds up. Then I read somewhere that it's better to let the phone manage ram and not this app, but I feel like the phone doesn't do a good job of it, unless having the app installed is preventing the phone from doing it itself? Maybe I'll try without it when I reset it.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Clean Master is real good to clean junk files or temp files but for the memory part, plz buy the Package Disabler Pro as this is the only one real works now on S6.
I believe Samsung got PC software to backup your data on Windows.
If you do factory reset and no use then it's safe to guess your phone got hardware problem and you should ask for a replacement.

Question though, where did you buy the phone? Are you 100% sure its an authentic galaxy s6? I came across a similar thing but its with the iPhone, a friend of mine was complaining about having drop calls with his iphone 6, I decided to play around with his iPhone 6 and was wondering why it was hella slow and lags a lot, I use iOS a lot(iPad, iPod Touch, and previous iPhones) and i know it should't lag especially a new version of the iphone, and also noticed somethings are off like the apple logo, screen resoluton, etc. After 2 min, I realized its a fake iPhone6 than runs an iOS skinned android, I was actually amazed how well it was made for a clone. If factory reset didn't help, then it's probably hardware defective or its fake.

Depending how long you've had it can you take it into the shop you got it from, show them the problems and get a replacement?
Mine is pretty much super quick, although I do use Nova Launcher Prime as my launcher, and Tesla Unread to show unread notifications for apps, and it is much quicker than the Samsung Launcher and a lot more customisable.
Also I have noticed some themes can slow the phone down immensely so unless you really want to customise the phone leave it on the default theme. (Nova Launcher Icons and different wallpapers don't slow anything down).
Also the Smart Manager on the phone, helps to keep the recent apps menu working nice and quick as it can slow down to the point that pressing it takes .5 of a second for the recent apps to show up.
Lastly, the S6 is notorious for faulty home buttons, so weird home button behaviour could be a slightly faulty button.

sol_671 said:
Question though, where did you buy the phone? Are you 100% sure its an authentic galaxy s6? I came across a similar thing but its with the iPhone, a friend of mine was complaining about having drop calls with his iphone 6, I decided to play around with his iPhone 6 and was wondering why it was hella slow and lags a lot, I use iOS a lot(iPad, iPod Touch, and previous iPhones) and i know it should't lag especially a new version of the iphone, and also noticed somethings are off like the apple logo, screen resoluton, etc. After 2 min, I realized its a fake iPhone6 than runs an iOS skinned android, I was actually amazed how well it was made for a clone. If factory reset didn't help, then it's probably hardware defective or its fake.
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I second that. You can use the following ways to confirm by downloading Antutu Officer from Google Play.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-tell-if-your-Android-device-is-a-fake-or-a-clone_id68473
http://visihow.com/Identify_a_Genuine/Original_Versus_a_Fake/Cloned_Samsung_Galaxy_Phone

Thanks everyone, it should be authentic I bought it from Rogers directly, not a dealer store but actual corporate one and we bought 2 at the same time. I did a factory reset last night and it's WAY faster now. I didn't put Clean Master on it yet just been using it as is but been great so far. I didn't put all my apps back on, just the ones I use, where as last time I'd just put on everything even if I seldom use it, so will try to add them slowly. CM was always saying before that Amazon was giving my phone a fever, restarting 50 times in the past 15 minutes type thing, even though I use that app constantly. Thanks!

ryuvann said:
Hi everyone,
I've always used iPhone but we switched to the Galaxy S6 a few weeks ago as I wanted to try android. The phone is fine but man it gets SO slow to the point I can barely use it. I'll be just doing normal things on it, or it will be sitting unused for awhile and I'll press the app switcher button and nothing happens. Wait 3 seconds and then it appears. Pick an app same thing nothing happens, then it appears. Or you swipe and it's laggy and slow. A friend said use clean master which when I run it always says freed 600MB of memory and then the problem seems to go away for another hour or so, but I'm constantly having to do this. My iPhone's were never slow at all and you never had to close programs. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it's driving me crazy to the point I might return it.
The other issue is lots of times when I swipe to unlock, the phone unlocks but then will be running Spotify or Amazon, neither of which are on my homescreen or were running before. Clean master always says Amazon keeps restarting over and over giving my device a fever, but not sure what I can do about that.
Is there anything I should be doing or could do differently? I'm on the Samsung launcher, was on Google's for awhile but prefer Samsung's since it shows notification count, and I have the Google keyboard as well. It's not all the time, and it's not always debilitating like where it's full on frozen, it's more it just feels really slow. I had the Nexus 5 last year for maybe 2 months before switching back to iPhone but I never had this issue with it. I feel like the S6 is even slower than the Nexus 5 was to the point I'd almost rather use that phone, but I feel like this is ridiculous since I paid $250 for the Nexus 5 and the S6 was $750 so you'd expect it would run better!
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There is something wrong with your software. I have been using my phone for about a month. No issues here.

Yep there is something wrong with your device. I always try to do speed test whenever I gets a chance to have my friend's i6 on my hand. With 250+ apps and 3gigs out of 32 free I can say that s6 opens apps a second faster than i6. There's some scroll lag on chrome but I fixed it with tweaking flags on chrome.If any app lags on this on this device then it's the result of poor coding.
Try to swap your device
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openmatrix said:
Yep there is something wrong with your device. I always try to do speed test whenever I gets a chance to have my friend's i6 on my hand. With 250+ apps and 3gigs out of 32 free I can say that s6 opens apps a second faster than i6. There's some scroll lag on chrome but I fixed it with tweaking flags on chrome.If any app lags on this on this device then it's the result of poor coding.
Try to swap your device
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+info? :good:

How is the phone so far?

Pulled my shield out of the drawer

This was honestly a fantastic piece of hardware when I bought it. A little about me is that I'm a pilot and I travel non-stop. I took a job that gave me an ipad so the shield went back into the closet. I've since switched jobs again and now I've pulled it out, dusted it off, and updated it with everything. It's so slow it's unusable. Literally can't use it.
There are basically only a few things I want the tablet for. There's no games. I just want to Netflix, watch downloaded shows for when I'm in foreign countries, and look at photos. I don't even use the internet much on it I just use my phone for that. Mostly just a movie/show thing. What should I do to get it back up to par?
Basically I have nothing that's important on it but don't want to throw it away. I still think it's a great device so long as it operates like it should. What can I do to make it functional again and able to play downloaded content, sling/youtubeTV and my spotify account? I'm not sure what's happened but right now even swiping from one screen to another is very laggy and slow. If I need to root or install something custom I'm willing to I just want to get this device up and running. It's the 2014 Tegra K1 variant.
Thank you guys!

Install the new 5.2 update, do a factory reset, and do not enable "Doze". Nvidia has disabled Doze by default on the latest update to eliminate the lag. It might slightly drain the battery though, but no more lag coming out of sleep.

Stay away from tha updates!!

Niii4 said:
Stay away from tha updates!!
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5.2 update made the tablet noticeably faster/smoother for me. Battery life is the same as before the update, and no issues with the update whatsoever.
Experience with an update(s) will vary from one user to another, due to all the differences in how we use our devices.

Anyone else absolutely hate this phone?

The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.

Hopefully the next gen will be better.
I didn't have an issue with mine , but sold it today. I prefer the slick oneplus 8 pro. Less pork and more of an on point device.

Snapdragon or Exynos?

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I would like to take over for FREE. Lol
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Ever considered you've gotten a lemon? I've literally had zero of those issues since the launch date
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I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.

socalstagetech said:
I had the same Bluetooth connection issues with the s20 ultra same 5g issues an poor picture quality.
That would be nice if it was just a lemon. I'm going to spend the day tomorrow with t-mobile.
The fast charger also died withing the first two weeks.
They want me to drive 40 miles to pick a new one up.
Really over samsung. Over priced and undelivered.
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I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining

btmusicman313 said:
I've had mine for months and haven't experienced a single issue you experienced, just get another phone if you're unhappy and stop the whining
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That doesn't help.
Depending on the carrier firmware the same model can behave much different.
Took me close to 6 months to dial in my AT&T 10+, it was a handful. Running hot, chewing up the battery.
Today, a year latter, it's a totally different animal; fast, stable with good battery life and no glitches.
These phones are complex with a lot of settings plus added carrier and 3rd party apks not to mention the Samsung apks. No configuration is the same.
If you don't play with them you'll never get it optimized and you'll just be along for the ride... wherever it goes.

blackhawk said:
I feel you. Samsung support sucks; it's not your imagination.
I have a 10+ and have been eyeballing the 20U as an upgrade. There do appear to be display issues on some of these phones.
As for bt, try a network reset; it's relatively painless and may help.
Clear the system cache on the boot menu.
Double check all settings.
Turn off all power management except the power mode; set to optimize.
In Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disable. See if Android will manage them better with no assigned buckets.
Look for apps using up bandwidth/battery, cloud apps including Google Transport are prime offenders.
Disable Samsung, carrier and Google feedback.
Consider adding a package disabler like PD MDM the shutdown the bloatware.
See if that helps... play with it.
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Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.

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Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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You're welcome.
A hard reboot (simulating pulling the battery) may get it too if you haven't try it. Again clearing the system cache can cure many gremlins like magic, easy to do and worth trying.
Another possibility is the phone was infected with a virus or trojan, this is very unlikely though unless you inadvertently downloaded or loaded it.
Scan it with Malwarebytes and Trojan Scanner.
If in doubt reload.
Normally reloads aren't a solution unless it's an old load or if compromised by a virus.
If you reload check the system before you load anything except from Playstore; assume the SD card or computer backups could be compromised as well.
If you reload avoid doing any updates at first as one of these could be causing the erratic behavior.
If you did a firmware update this could be the cause; clearing the system cache may fix it but a reload is better. I disable autoupdates especially from the carrier for this reason among others.
More than likely you get it sorted out or at worst return for repairs.
Reload it though before you return it. Fixable software/settings issues* are common on these phones.
Lol, Androids wuv to be played with... good luck
*if you have a clean load it's always preferable to find the cause of the malfunction rather than reloading as the same issue may well happen again from the same apk or incorrect setting(s).

socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Not even a single issue I have faced so far. Two month with me now. Fabulously amazing in every bit of it. Are you sure you have Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra there [emoji848]?
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socalstagetech said:
The 5g is horrendous
The Bluetooth sucks doesn't connect or work for half my devices any other cheap phone works flawlessly.
Phone freezes up on web pages constantly.
This phone is absolute trash.
I feel so ripped off for as much as I payed for this hunk of junk it should work.
The pictures are **** too... blurry an ****ed off.
When I call people they can't hear a word I say...
What else could go wrong?
Really wish I had waited for the pixel 5.
Even a 3 year old pixel smokes this trash.
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Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out

socalstagetech said:
Thank you very much for the helpful suggestions! I'm going to try it and see how it goes.
I very much appreciate the helpful reply.
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Honestly, I would have it exchanged if you are having that many problems with it, sounds like you may have a defective unit, it happens, could be something as simple as a faulty motherboard causing all those issues that a quick exchange would solve
Got to say this is the best phone I've ever owned so I'm extremely surprised you're having all those problems, contact whoever you bought it from, tell them what you told us and get a replacement unit sent out
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Could be a bad mobo but it's easier to reload then to exchange it and then have the exact same issues.
Happened to me with the 10+, bt audio was horrible.
Return it and at first it was running normally then boom the exact same thing. I knew it was software but I didn't manually toggle it!
Samsung tech zero help, same-same with AT&T tech support.
The problem goes back at least as far as the N9 and that's where I found the solution.
It was a glitch in the advanced audio settings that sometimes toggles on by it's self probably due to a glitch in Wearables.
Samsung finally fixed it about a half year about with a Wearables update. It took them over 2 years.
If you knew about it, it was easy to simply untoggled it occasionally, if not it was an audio nightmare.
The only other way to reset it was a pointless reload.
I like the shotgun get it done approach but you can needlessly spend time without a solution if you don't first try to verify if it's hardware, bad flash or an issue that's pure software.
Out of the box this AT&T 10+ was a puking, bandwidth/battery eating, hot running mess besides the bt glitch.
Today with the same OS version and a lot of optimizing it's stable, fast, gorgeous looking platform with good battery life.
It wasn't even close to this out of the box...
If you don't take the time to play with these phones you'll miss the functionality they're capable of and put up will a lot of unpleasant experiences needlessly.
A misbehaving Android is an opportunity to learn new tricks. Just dive in... and see where it takes you.

I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.

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Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity

RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply ?
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.

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Increase minimum DPI in developers options for way better sharpness / clarity
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Exactly where is that setting at in developer options?

RISHI RAJ said:
I can confirm on pics being blurry. Also Samsung should calibrate their displays like Apple. Its shouldn't be left for users to find the right setting. Also the screen is not crisp in fhd mode. My Xr with 820p looked sharper.
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I try to take pics of my plants and it takes a ton of shots to get one nice clear one. I have a pixel 3 and the camera taking the same pics in the same lighting are beautiful and easy to capture perfectly the first time.
My screen just froze while typing this reply
Whole thing freezes up and you have to hit home button or the current running apps then pop back in to get it to come back.
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Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.

blackhawk said:
Android color calibration (ie no calibration) sucks.
When will they get the message?
After 5+ years you would think they would know better?
I could calibrate my color throughput/monitor on Windows 15 years ago...
Make sure Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework are not disabled; needed by the cam, the rest of Bixby can be disabled.
Check cam settings and manually set the AF lock point if you aren't. Try a data reset on the app and clear the system cache. Could be hardware but more likely user, settings, software or firmware related.
My browser will lock up if too many windows are open (52 open now) or if the browser cache gets too large or corrupted. Might the browser; my primary one is Brave. The Samsung browser handles about 15 or so open windows.
I chased down dozens of issues on my 10+ to get it where it is today over mostly a 6 month period.
I'm careful about all updates and new apps as these can cause havoc especially the former.
Still running on Pie because it's fast, stable, secure enough for my setup and everything is now running well.
Constantly upgrading is time consuming at best and the outcome not always an improvement. I use the factory load for a bunch of apks still... with good results.
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You don't need Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework enabled for the camera to work.

Question galaxy a53 Really lagging and slow??

That Its true this can be fix with any software update?

williec80 said:
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.

Thank you the attentive answer, it not sounds too good . Not can be at a good and still cheap too
What is your proposal for the Galaxy A73 have you any experience this phone for regarding this topic?

Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.

Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.

dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Thank you these usefull advise. i will try it asap and will feedback that what is the result.

This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.

Also Facebook is a big resource hog. Even on an iPhone 13 it can stutter occasionally or even freezes specially in marketplace and makes the phone run hot. If you don't mind using the mobile version I would highly recommend using that instead the app.

I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.

dante501 said:
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.

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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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thank you the usefull and detail of rich description...

It is laggy because Samsung picked the weaker hardware for this phone (even though it sells for mid range price, there is no SD778 or Exynos 1080 or Dimensity 1200). As others said you could disable things and only use 60Hz screen. But if you haven't bought it yet you can buy the A52s which will be smoother.

DRSdroid said:
This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.

kitchenfork said:
Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.

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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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I'm confused. I don't have Facebook on my A53 or ADB wasn't needed if it was originally (and not system app). Did you grab a carrier one? That would explain it to me. Not seeing lag on my unlocked A53.
If you grabbed an unlocked one then I don't know why you'd have lag unless it had a physical issue or you use something I don't use that causes it.

dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Enable developer options and disable all animations should fix this without the need for installing a 3rd party launcher or other software.

DRSdroid said:
Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.

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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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If its only the camera from press to saved then the April update should mostly if not fully solve that. You have the April update yet or not?
For me it seems to be under a second after April update. Pre-April it was more like 3-5 seconds.
Not really something I would have cared that much about either way lol. Just have to get used to it.

I've had this phone almost a week now.. I have SwiftKey as my kb...
Can't say I've noticed any type of lag on this device... 120hz, dark mode background services running, wifi calling on you name it.
What are y'all even all the reviewers doing to experience lag??
Kind of would like to know lol

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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
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A53 is not a "Budget" device. It is mid level. Samsung's budget devices are the A1#, A2# and A3# phones.