Just got an S6, used it for about and hour and just saw now that on the guide it says 'must charge before using'. Have I messed up my battery at all?
No, Just Make sure to give it a full charge and full discharge ASAP
madboi20 said:
Just got an S6, used it for about and hour and just saw now that on the guide it says 'must charge before using'. Have I messed up my battery at all?
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That was just a suggestion.
No need to panic.
shotgun10ga said:
No, Just Make sure to give it a full charge and full discharge ASAP
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So for the discharge, can I use it?
madboi20 said:
So for the discharge, can I use it?
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Use it heavily without charging and once it dies charge it to 100% and your good.
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hi!
don't know if this is the right forum, but i think i'll give it a try
how can i calibrate the battery of my hd2? or is this not neccessary?
should i always discharge 'till the battery is nearly empty, or is this not a good idea and i should recharge at a certain battery-level the latest?
thanks very much for your help!
im getting v good battery usage and i do thid by full charge full drain 3 or 4 times and i tend to charge when gets to 10% hope this helps g
hebbe said:
hi!
don't know if this is the right forum, but i think i'll give it a try
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i think the hd2 general forum would have been more appropriate for this but i guess it won't hurt anyone if you posted here
there are many contrasting views about this and you will probably get confusing answers. i am not an expert but i'll try to brief you with some info i've got from my readings about lithium-ion batteries and my personal experience, of course.
so here we go:
hebbe said:
how can i calibrate the battery of my hd2?
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1. discharge fully until the phone shuts down by itself
2. remove battery and wait ~1 minute
3. charge completely with the phone OFF until the green light is lit
4. remove battery and wait ~2 minutes
hebbe said:
is this neccessary?
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some recommend to do it every 3 to 6 month
here you'll find many that recommend you to do it after flashing a new radio rom.
from my own experience i tend to agree with this
hebbe said:
should i always discharge 'till the battery is nearly empty, or is this not a good idea and i should recharge at a certain battery-level the latest?
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i've read somewhere that lithium-ion batteries like being charged as often as possible and don't like being left without juice. this is the main reason some people don't want to even hear about the calibration procedure. but i think there is a big difference between complete discharging now-and-then and complete discharging as a habit.
i've never heard anybody recommend a precise low level limit when you should start to recharge.
there is no danger to overcharge though.
hebbe said:
thanks very much for your help!
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no problem mate,
cheers
My daughter's Nexus S is acting up. I think the battery may be spent. It won't take a charge, but I'm not sure whether it's the battery's fault or something to do with the phone.
Question: Will this phone normally operate plugged in without a battery installed? I can't get it to do so.
Thank you.
varxx said:
My daughter's Nexus S is acting up. I think the battery may be spent. It won't take a charge, but I'm not sure whether it's the battery's fault or something to do with the phone.
Question: Will this phone normally operate plugged in without a battery installed? I can't get it to do so.
Thank you.
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i tried , won't boot up without battery plug in , why don't you buy a new battery piece ?
qtwrk said:
i tried , won't boot up without battery plug in , why don't you buy a new battery piece ?
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Thank you for testing this for me. Yes, I'm ordering a new battery for her now.
You can power it off 3aa batteries!
bedalus said:
You can power it off 3aa batteries!
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Interesting. Link?
No it won't work without a battery.
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Are you sure you want that link?
Hello there,
I just got my HTC One XL from ebay and I have some questions.
How should I do the first charge? Should I use my new cellphone first and wait to the battery discharge in order to make a full charge of 7 hours?
Thank you!
If you bought it from eBay it's almost definitely not new, so the first charging process isn't super important. But, if you really want to you can plug it in until the led turns green, continue to charge for another hour, disconnect, turn it on and discharge it fully, charge fully again, then use as normal. Except for this first charge kind of situation it's generally not a good idea to discharge your phone fully, top-up charges are the suggested method.
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It shouldn't matter too much with lipoly batteries, even when the phone says 0% it's still 3v which is only half discharged (safety margin around 2v before battery locks up and 4.2v which is 100%), there should be little concern with running a battery to the point it switches off as it would still have around 300 months shelf life.
There is no battery conditioning with lipoly only the way the android system determines the rate of discharge, it might for instance take 12 hours to get to 10% and then an hour to use up the last 10% as it's not figured out the discharge curve of the battery. Best thing to do is charge to 100% and allow it to run to switch off until it works out how fast or slow the battery rate is. Alot of the 'battery calibration' tools are worthless as they wipe the batterystats.bin which just allows android to determine this - giving odd readings (such as "my battery lasts twice as long to get to 50%" but then it is twice as fast from then on). useful if you have a new battery or it's out of whack but certainly dont need to do it regularly, contrary to a report by a so called android technician the batterystats.bin isnt wiped on reboot.
Sorry I go on a bit, I like to try and educate people on battery and charging methods to ensure they get the best out of them.. so as timaaa says, plug in and charge, use and discharge a few times and you'll get an accurate battery reading.
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Regardless of whether the battery is only discharging to 3v when you "fully" discharge it, repeating that process too many times is harmful to the long term life of the battery. I found an amazing article written by a battery scientist which contained some fantastic information, the core advice: don't repeatedly discharge your battery, top-up charges are the best way. If I can find a link I'll post it for reference.
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If you bought it from eBay it's almost definitely not new
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Why are you saying that? I bought it from: ebay.com/itm/111225894476?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
So, I have to plug it for make a full charge and then I have to use it, I will recharge it when it is 10% or 20% of charge?
sombragn said:
Why are you saying that? I bought it from: ebay.com/itm/111225894476?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
So, I have to plug it for make a full charge and then I have to use it, I will recharge it when it is 10% or 20% of charge?
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The reason @timmaaa is saying that is because since our phone is so old (July 2012 release) it would be a bit weird to see a new phone there on ebay.
The first charge should be around 8 hours.Then you discharge once it hits 5% or so. Then charge it up full again, and let it die completely this time. and then charge full and don't worry about it again.
Now, more importantly, now that you have a new phone: WELCOME TO THE ONE XL FORUM! Hopefully we can see you around, trying out the various ROMs. A word of advice though: if you plan on trying these ROMs, I highly recommend you get root, boot unlock, and s-off all before you go and take the Sense 5 OTA that contains the latest (and non-unlockable) bootloader
timmaaa said:
If you bought it from eBay it's almost definitely not new, so the first charging process isn't super important. But, if you really want to you can plug it in until the led turns green, continue to charge for another hour, disconnect, turn it on and discharge it fully, charge fully again, then use as normal. Except for this first charge kind of situation it's generally not a good idea to discharge your phone fully, top-up charges are the suggested method.
Sent from my Evita
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The reason @timmaaa is saying that is because since our phone is so old (July 2012 release) it would be a bit weird to see a new phone there on ebay.
The first charge should be around 8 hours.Then you discharge once it hits 5% or so. Then charge it up full again, and let it die completely this time. and then charge full and don't worry about it again.
Now, more importantly, now that you have a new phone: WELCOME TO THE ONE XL FORUM! Hopefully we can see you around, trying out the various ROMs. A word of advice though: if you plan on trying these ROMs, I highly recommend you get root, boot unlock, and s-off all before you go and take the Sense 5 OTA that contains the latest (and non-unlockable) bootloader
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Sorry, I am an old man with a family and i dont have a lot of time to search by myself.
First, thank you very much for your answers guys.
Second, is there a way to find out if the cellphone has been used? The phone looks like new tho.
Thank you guys and thanks for answering!
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Sorry, I am an old man with a family and i dont have a lot of time to search by myself.
First, thank you very much for your answers guys.
Second, is there a way to find out if the cellphone has been used? The phone looks like new tho.
Thank you guys and thanks for answering!
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If there is a way to see it a smartphone has been used?....hmm that's a really good question. I would try checking the imei with HTC. See how long ago if the product has been used. That's all I can think of
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Why are you saying that? I bought it from: ebay.com/itm/111225894476?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
So, I have to plug it for make a full charge and then I have to use it, I will recharge it when it is 10% or 20% of charge?
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It'd be highly unlikely for a phone that's over two years old now for there to be any new ones out in the marketplace at all. Even if it looks new, it's probably refurbished at best.
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Sorry, I am an old man with a family and i dont have a lot of time to search by myself.
First, thank you very much for your answers guys.
Second, is there a way to find out if the cellphone has been used? The phone looks like new tho.
Thank you guys and thanks for answering!
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As pandasa said, you could try checking with HTC, short of that I don't have any ideas. If the phone performs well though it really doesn't matter if it isn't brand new, I only said that because if it isn't new I doesn't desperately need the usual first charge treatment.
Sent from my Evita
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It'd be highly unlikely for a phone that's over two years old now for there to be any new ones out in the marketplace at all. Even if it looks new, it's probably refurbished at best.
As pandasa said, you could try checking with HTC, short of that I don't have any ideas. If the phone performs well though it really doesn't matter if it isn't brand new, I only said that because if it isn't new I doesn't desperately need the usual first charge treatment.
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I see, where can I check the imei online? Thank you guys, I mean it
sombragn said:
I see, where can I check the imei online? Thank you guys, I mean it
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Just hit the thanks button. It's pretty much the same thing. To check the imei: boot into the bootloader. So turn the device off, then hold PWR + VOL DOWN at the same time. The imei should be there
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Just hit the thanks button. It's pretty much the same thing. To check the imei: boot into the bootloader. So turn the device off, then hold PWR + VOL DOWN at the same time. The imei should be there
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I clicked on Thanks bottons, thanks
But, what should i see on the screen? IMEI are numbers, right? do you want me to copy and paste here? Thank you.
sombragn said:
I clicked on Thanks bottons, thanks
But, what should i see on the screen? IMEI are numbers, right? do you want me to copy and paste here? Thank you.
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NEVER post your IMEI. It should say "IMEI: " and then a bunch of numbers and/or letters. You'll know when you see it
Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!
Maya2015 said:
Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!
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Its always best to let it charge to 100% and immediately unplug it. If it has a chip to prevent overcharging, great. If not, this will protect battery life. My friend to fix his phones said that the worst thing you can do for a living in my own battery is to let it overcharge, which is letting it charge at 100% for an extended period of time. it's also best to let it drain as much as possible and recharged to 100 percent, but most importantly not to let it over charge at 100% for a long time.
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Its always best to let it charge to 100% and immediately unplug it. If it has a chip to prevent overcharging, great. If not, this will protect battery life. My friend to fix his phones said that the worst thing you can do for a living in my own battery is to let it overcharge, which is letting it charge at 100% for an extended period of time. it's also best to let it drain as much as possible and recharged to 100 percent, but most importantly not to let it over charge at 100% for a long time.
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That isn't completely true. You're right when you say you shouldn't hold it at 100% for long, because that reduces the long term life of the battery. But discharging it as much as possible before charging again is a bad idea. It's best to keep the battery above 25% and actually when charging it's best to disconnect before it reaches full capacity.
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That isn't completely true. You're right when you say you shouldn't hold it at 100% for long, because that reduces the long term life of the battery. But discharging it as much as possible before charging again is a bad idea. It's best to keep the battery above 25% and actually when charging it's best to disconnect before it reaches full capacity.
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I stand corrected. [emoji5]
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There are some great articles with some much more detailed information, better than I could ever articulate.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
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Maya2015 said:
Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!
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I usually never charge my battery to 100%. i always charge maximum of 90-95 and disconnect plug.Before recharging, i make sure it has discharged upto 30- 40%.However, sometimes atleast after a week i completely drain the battery to 0 and let it charge 100 percent.This is just a practice i read on a website but i dont see anything on 4 phones in 2 years. namely Htc explorer, Samsung galaxy grand, xperia L and now samsung grand prime. based on my experience to prolong battery life make sure you are in a cool enviorment.
Hi
So for the first charge, do you recommend to charge it first up to 100% before using and unplug?
Thanks.
Maya2015 said:
Hi
So for the first charge, do you recommend to charge it first up to 100% before using and unplug?
Thanks.
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That's perfectly fine. Not necessary, but fine.
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Thanks.
And afterwards, do you recommend to charge it up to 100% or as some of the guys says here, up to 90%?
Thanks!
Maya2015 said:
Thanks.
And afterwards, do you recommend to charge it up to 100% or as some of the guys says here, up to 90%?
Thanks!
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Take a look at the two articles I gave links for just above.
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So, my problem is that remaining 10% battery is charging very slow. Is it normal? When charging first 90% Ampere says around 2000mA and it's very quick. After 90% it's slowly decreasing, 92% now and 230 mA, couple days ago it was 80 mA when 96%.
Asmod96 said:
So, my problem is that remaining 10% battery is charging very slow. Is it normal? When charging first 90% Ampere says around 2000mA and it's very quick. After 90% it's slowly decreasing, 92% now and 230 mA, couple days ago it was 80 mA when 96%.
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I believe it's a safety feature to keep the battery healthy
pijes said:
I believe it's a safety feature to keep the battery healthy
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Yes, for the last 10% or so the phone trickle charges which is basically like putting on the brakes to make sure the battery gets to 100% as efficiently as possible.
are you on custom ROM?
It is normal with any phone, I don't know why but, it is the case with any phone
This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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ayush rao said:
This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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Ahh, I didn't think it would be due to chemical reactions.
Sweet
venugopalu007 said:
are you on custom ROM?
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Nope, stock ROM
ayush rao said:
This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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Oh, so it's normal... thanks!
Asmod96 said:
Oh, so it's normal... thanks!
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Yep, it is normal