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Why no smartphones with HUGE batt?

These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package...
Edit: I'm dead wrong about the iPod's batt capacity as rajendra82 has pointed out. It was 3.4 watt hour, not 3.4 amp hours. Sorry (for the record, the iPod's batt would be terribly insufficient as a modern phone batt in a smartphone)

eatkabab said:
These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package... sigh...
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh. The Samsung Captivate has a 5.55 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 1500 mAh. Since the battery capacity is directly proportional to the volume, a battery of 3000 mAh will be twice as big as our current battery. The biggest phones today (i.e., the EVO and Droid X) only ship with a 1300 mAh battery. 1500 mAH is plenty for this phone to get through the day. Battery life is typically rated at 1000 cycles, which is 3 years assuming a full day to go from 100% to 0%. You are likely to replace the phone in 3 years any way.

Our phones do have large batteries, and as long as you don't have a bad program, have the screen on super bright, or use it as a hot spot, the battery life is going to be good enough for nearly anyone.
The captivate has a HUGE percent of the volume dedicated to the battery already, without using a non standard (non rectangular prism) battery shape the phone thickness would need to greatly increase and have wasted space.
In simpler terms, when your battery is already good for the market, a thinner phone sells more than a marginal battery lfie increase.

What about weight? Does a bigger battery weigh significantly more?

I would love to have a bigger battery or one of those battery cases like my fiancee has for her iphone. I think the above comments are spot on, but i think what companies dont take into account is how much people use their phones for on a daily basis. I dont know about you, but I use my phone a hell of a lot during the day more so than what constitutes as 'just getting through the day'. If im lucky enough to make it through till the end of the day its skirting on the red. A backup battery would be awesome to have!

rajendra82 said:
The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh.
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Sorry, I just realized that. I must have missed the details about the ipod power.
I understand that the captivate technically has the "best" battery, but I do not agree that it will last through the day. I'm using my phone regularly to look up information, text, Gtalk, and make many calls. The phone is dead by the time I get home around 6pm (days start around 7:30am).
the iPad has a "10 hour batt life". My sister has her iPad lying around the house but she and I are much more often on our phones, so why don't our phones have a 10 hour batt life? I think its kinda difficult to use the ipad for 10 hours in a single day seeing that people usually work too. My phone is used for productive purposes usually, so it is very easy to drain it in the 4.5hrs it lasts on any day (not to mention difficult to get through an 8hr plane ride and still have juice to find your way to the hotel when you land). Last I checked, a day was at least 8 hours, not 4.5.
I also realize that they would have to ditch the rectangle/cube form factor of the batt in order to fill the space of a larger case more efficiently (something the iphone takes advantage of). I have nothing against this (or the added weight) and I don't think any other power user would care either.
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
Sigh...
Edit: I forgot to mention Virgin America has solved all flying problems with this nifty little thing called a power receptacle in each trio of seats.

There have been at least 10 different claims in the last 5-10 years from companys saying they've found a way to at least triple battery capacity.
so far none of them have made anything...

Have you ever seen those extended batteries that also replace the back cover? They look awful. It's great that the Captivate is so slim and light.
It's unlikely that enough people need that much power every day for manufacturers to implement a huge battery in every device.

Nevertheless, it would be great to have the option.
Third party batteries that replace the back cover haven't been designed by the manufacturer to take advantage of all the space available, they're just made afterwards for the (admittedly few) people who need to stay more than 12hrs without a power source.
If a manufacturer specifically made a phone to accomodate a larger battery, the uglyness+volume/duration ratio would be much better.
Imagine a qwerty slider with a large battery instead of the keyboard: you could live with the additional volume and you could go on for two full days without a powersource.
Personally I wouldn't ever make it without a car charger, I keep a spare battery around in case I need it and even carry a retractable microUSB as a key holder (I use my phone as a music player, the battery drains FAST).
I'm ok with that but a large capacity batt. would let me not have to care about how much juice I have left all the time, wich would be great.

eatkabab said:
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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You're not crazy. I think about the smartphone battery problem all the time. It's by far the biggest drawback of a smartphone. Even if you are using it lightly, you still have to charge every night, that is smartphone 101. And yet, if my friend iwth a little feature phone texts me all day, and I text them back all day, there phone... is fine. They can bascially run it all day for three days before needing to charge when it's new. My Captivate (or any other smartphone)... constantly having the screen on? It would be begging for battery after hours. Now of course, we have vastly better batteries than the feature phone, it's just the smartphone is doing significantly more. But still, yes, there should be a way, possibly with non-rectangular batteries, to significantly (at least double) battery life at a not massive cost to form factor and size. And yes, I'm sure there is a market here as well.

Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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Bigger battery means more weight. Some manufacturers get a little more power out of the same physical size, but if you really want to double the battery, you double the size and double the weight.
Since the phones have no extra room inside, you wind up with a bigger phone.
All manufacturers are trying to balance size, weight and power. It is no coincidence that all the smartphones have near the same size battery.

ColbyRyptos said:
This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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This post pretty much leads me to believe more is going on than you're saying. With hybrid r3 I was getting two days with heavy usage, also gps isn't functional on that rom, so claiming to use it seems to be misinformed at best
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beazie0885 said:
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.

eatkabab said:
Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.

i agree that a phone with a super battery pack would be nice. me and my friends would always talk about if we could make our own phones what we would want and i always said something that would give me nice battery life so the idea i came up with was this
by default most phones come with a 1500 mah battery
but why not add a non traditional form factor to the rest of the case adding battery to and around the phone like in the area around the camera in the front of the phone around the side of the phone kinda like some of this battery jackets we see coming out for the iphone 4
i think it would add maybe just a built more bulk to the phone i'm still using a tilt so i'm used to carryin a bulky phone
i've always been interested in seeing super cap or ultra cap tech being put into a smartphone figuring if we can't go all day with our battery at least let us be able to get a full charge with in a few minutes ya know
i see ultra and super cap tech starting to be put in remotes were you can charge it in 1 minute to 5 minutes and not have to charge it for two weeks that kinda tech in a cell would be lovely

I, for one, would give up the cool looking indent in the back of the captivate (where the metal cover is) if they would fill that space with battery. It wouldn't increase the size of the phone (much), wouldn't make it bulgy, and I could see it giving at least 50% better battery life.
Even if the phone was blobby, plenty of people are buying Droid phones, and those things are frikin' mon calamari cruisers.

alphadog00 said:
Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
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obviously they would have to make the phone a tad thicker and its already so light weight that adding double the batt weight would still keep it weighing less than an Evo

the Samsung Captivate battery is pretty beefy if you ask me, I don't know how they would fit a processor and other components in the phone if they got a bigger battery

Extended Life Battery tempts me:) (a.k.a. extended battery discussion thread)

So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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uuh... the relay is already quite thick, with that battery it will be huge... i personally wouldn't, but it's a matter of personal taste

I had an extended battery on my Doubleshot before this - the bulk didn't really bother me. Maybe I'm strange but I didn't mind. Especially with the battery life I got.
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i has extended batteries for my G1 one back then. i used them when i took the device with me geocaching. I had two of them and they made the device stay up longer than i ever did
downside with the bulky back covers is, that the device won't fit into any pouches no more. and, of course cases no longer fit either.
but once you're used to the shape - imho - the added thickness is no longer disturbing.

onebornoflight said:
So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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You can go for this solution....1/5th of Mugen's price:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product/hyperion-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-sgh-t699-2-x-battery-charger/

I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.

orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.

janejunx said:
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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Nope. No NFC.

I've had my Relay 4G about a month and a half now, and am already looking at getting an extended battery. I find myself charging it a few times a day - sometimes I'll only get maybe 3 hours before it's "critically low". Yes, I do use it a ton - it's currently my main computer, since I rarely have access to my parents' laptop and my desktop, whose case+mobo+cpu I recently sent to the recycle bin, bit the dust over a year ago. Also I have unlimited unthrottled 4G on T-Mobile (and used well over 10-12GB last month, & this (billing) month am currently at 12.21GB since April 28.
I've seen the Mugen 4600mAh battery with NFC online around $90 (way too rich for my blood), and the EZOPower 4100mAh (no NFC) for around $17-23 or so at Amazon or NewEgg, among other places. I was originally wary of the cheap price on the EZO, but if the huge price difference is due to NFC and not being a cheaply made battery, I'd want the EZO, possibly 2. I don't use the NFC hardly at all, and I suppose if I really need it sometime I could pop the original stock battery back in for the occasion.
So any reason for me to NOT get the EZOPower 4100mAh? If I get 2, I'll probably also want an external charging solution so I can charge one while using the other. Also is there a hardshell case (with a built-in stand) available that fits the phone with the larger battery door? BTW unavailability of those two things won't be dealbreakers for me getting the battery. I had an extended battery for my G1, and that phone finally bit the dust after ~4+ years. (I wonder if my SGH-T699 will last that long…)

would somebody care to explain to be why nfc is dependand on the battery?
the batteries have just the same 4 connectors as any other cell battery i always had in my hands.
or are they made of materials that don't shield the nfc waves passing though?

nfc antenna is in the battery casing. NFC antennas go for about $5 on ebay, if you figured out which two connectors go to the nfc you could probably set up your own if your battery doesn't support it.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.

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orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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I also picked up two EZO batteries. They have a well made cover and last for twice what stock does. Unfortunately it didn't have a NFC antenna and both have now swollen up to the point they no longer fit. While I had left them plugged in after full charge, they seem to stay warm and not tolerate it well. Can't say how well they could have lasted if better cared for, but abuse or overcharging seems to effect them quickly.
Does the mugen or other brands also have issues? If anyone else have suggestions.
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5318008 said:
Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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Well, it just displays a percentage. It at least seems accurate while logging with Juice Defender's graph, it would track down at fairly consistent rate until charged or out of power. As for swapping over to a Relay, It's about as well supported as any slider out right now. I haven't been disappointed.

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the EZObattery rocks. For $19 (I got mine on ebay) I get 2 days and a few hours into the 3rd before needing a charge.
I have the same issue kilr00y mentioned about it not fitting into pouches or cases except I found now that the phone is harder to flip open and safely hold at the same time while doing 90 other things at once which is when I always need to use the phone. I keep an aftermarket case on the front screen part but can't find an extended back case. I made my own from a tube of black silicone but would love to hear it if anyone finds another option. I don't mind if the phone turns into 1988 brick style size so long as the battery lasts and I don't crack the screen again.

I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)

rudias said:
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
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It looks good. Be aware that most "extended" battery will not last long... In particular when they have a lower voltage than the original battery. Lot of battery with higher mAh run at 3.7V instead of 3.8V this make it last shorter than the original.

I've had 2 of the EZOPower 4100mAh batteries, and am experiencing the same problem that stonefoz mentioned about the batteries swelling. In my case, for example, the current one has gotten to where the cover will just spontaneously pop off, and the battery will dislodge, forcing the phone to lose power. Also, regarding his "staying warm" comment - sometimes when I was doing something extensive on the phone, it'd sometimes get so hot, especially the keyboard area, that I could barely hold it, and that concerns me some.
I believe the second one has lasted longer than my first, though. It's not quite as bad now as my first was when I replaced it. I bought my first one May 18, 2013, and my second one September 18, 2013, 4 months later. It's lasted till now, May 7, 2014, 7 and a half months later, but it's about time to replace it.
It looks like it's no longer available, but I was thinking I should try a different one anyway.
One option is this 4600 mAh Mugen battery for about $90, and another is this 5000 mAh MPJ battery for about $35. The MPJ does say it's only 3.7 volts, which according to scaltro could be a concern with longevity per charge.
I definitely would like better battery life. I've noticed that playing FarmVille 2: Country Escape is quite a drain - I'd go from full battery to getting the low battery warning after only something like 2 to 3 hours or so, even with the EZO battery. Earlier, I popped in the factory Samsung battery, topped off its charge, then decided to test battery life playing FV2. I also turned on bluetooth (and sent the sounds to an external speaker), cranked the screen brightness all the way up, and turned off power saver mode, in an attempt to get a "worst-case scenario". I tried turning on WiFi (we have a hotspot here now) but it wouldn't connect to the game server, so I just went through my unlimited+unthrottled 4G.
The results:
2:45am - battery full, unplugged
4:15am - battery 22% (I checked it a few times along the way periodically, but neglected to note the times)
4:23am - battery 14%, had just gotten the battery low popup warning
4:33am - battery 5%, battery critically low popup warning
4:35am - battery 3%, then I went and plugged it in.
So, it lasted only about an hour and 50 minutes from full to 3% remaining. I'm hoping a good battery would be able to go all day and all night and into the next day with similarly-intensive use. (No I wouldn't be playing games the entire time of course!)
Personally, if the $35 MPJ battery would be good enough, and significantly better than the EZO, I'd prefer to go for that one.
I'm wondering, though, if the $90 Mugen is a huge leap up in quality, though (disregarding the NFC for now which I haven't had to use)? It's a bit rich for my blood to drop all at once on a battery for a phone ... BUT, their website tells me they accept returns up to a year later (and I've gone through TWO EZOs in that time), which gives me some hope. If, overall, I'd be spending less by getting one Mugen and it outlasting 4 or 5 EZOs (if they were still available), I'd get that.
On a side note, it'll be a while before I can afford to replace my phone, but when I do, I'd really like a good QWERTY keyboard. I see that very few phones come with them now, though, and the ones that are are near the bottom of the barrel spec-wise. I'm thinking I'll need to get an external compact bluetooth or USB keyboard with my next phone, and expand my options for the phone itself. Ideally I'd like to get one that I can put in a flip case, with the phone in the other side of it, and close it when I'm not using it. (Although, there is the concern with getting the phone out quickly to answer calls, although I maybe only talk 25-50 minutes a month or so.) Any suggestions on what to look for in the case/keyboard department, for example? Chances are it won't be till 2015 at the earliest (and my wallet hopes my Galaxy S Relay 4G will last through 2016 or so unless it dies or something else goes seriously wrong) before I get a new phone, but I like to start my search early. When I do get one, I'm hoping it'll last at least 4-5 years, and maybe stretch it to 7-10 if I'm pressed for cash then.

My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.

orange808 said:
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.

pianoplayer88key said:
Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Honestly, I got about the same results with my EZO battery: just over 9 hours of constant heavy use. Other than the fact it swelled up, it worked great. I guess there was a reason it was so cheap...
I had a Mugen battery for my Sidekick 4G before I bought the Relay and it still works great. (I loaned the SK4G to a friend that broke his phone.) My new Mugen hasn't had any problems, but I've only had it a few months.
Combined with TeamApex's Cyanogen and this awesome QWERTY keyboard, my extended batteries have made this phone the most productive and useful device I have ever owned. I can't say enough great things about ApexTmo, the Relay, and extended batteries.

CAUTION - 2600mAh battery AceSoft - DO NOT BUY !

My last try (after having bad experience with noname 2500mAh replacement battery which was a waste, and 3000mAh S3 battery which did not fit).
Just ordered AceSoft 2600mAh http://www.ebay.com/itm/AceSoft-260...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=181188883709& (w/o NFC)
will check & report!
there is also another one from sporting persistence http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Accessory..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item4176c8f4f7
but this one I don't mind anymore, for those who is interested can have a look
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THE RESULT
So, after warming it up for some days, I decided to make benchmarks, and did it with two different apps.
While the stock battery (1800mAh) drains 30% for the same test in the same time, the AceSoft battery drains 40% although it is allegedly 2600mAh (or 2830mAh).
Also, the AceSoft is the same as the sunsky 2500mAh noname replacement battery. Looking in it clearly they only changed the sticker and selling it this way. You can see the battery material is identical in design.
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Thus, no need to buy that! I am tired and give up trying any other batteries.
cheers guys

I want to try the battery of the Galaxy Note, the dimensions of it are almost equal.
Has anyone tried it?

Hi folks!
So I received the battery from AceSoft today and the first thing that impressed me was that Im reading on it "2850mAh", so let's see.
To get confident that it is not just a sticker over another noname replacement battery I pulled down the red sticker a bit to check whats behind, and I see at least no other sticker behind, only the battery. But unfortunately the design of the battery looks like same the replacement battery from sunsky, both bit different to the stock one.
I put the battery into the phone and it got already about 50% juice. The only weird thing was that on my first use, the phone was working and reacting very slow. I put to charging and waited 10min, when it was still slow, then just rebooted and now it is fine. Is that normal with the first use? I hope it was only once.
Will see and report the results these days!
@Balthasar85 sorry, haven't tried it and don't know about it

when plugged in for charging, i found out that it stops charging as soon it reaches 4.3 V or reaches a temperature of 43 C to prevent any damage. it got (from 10%) to about 85% charge, i then need to wait about 20min till it cools down a little and comes lower state in voltage, in order to proceed fully charging.
maybe it needs some training in the first usage, in order to get used to charge completely. will see..
but for now i am fine with the battery

Looking forward to the results
Please post pictures if you can too
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Looking forward to the results
Please post pictures if you can too
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Hello,
For now, as I guessed it is better when charging over USB from pc, because the temperature of the battery stays always cool below 40°C, not getting quickly warm as through the charger, neither does the voltage reach as quicker to 4.3 V. You can see in the pics attached.
Though I have to say that I am using a different charger and not the original charger (american) because I am in Europe, as the power supply socket is different here.
I previously read for extended batteries, they need a few charges to get out the full capacity. In the screenshot we can see that the charging jumped from 92% to 100%. I then waited a bit, and recharged smoothly again. I believe this is normal for the beginning and will be fixed after some uses/recharges.
the screenshots include the graphs while charging in % of the battery state, Temperature (it is more warm before the charging, because I was using the phone) and in Voltage, all of during the same time range. and the re-raising to 100% in the last pic.
will definitely let you all know the further results.
cheers for now

Update. Do not buy this!
Check my result now above in the OP!

esilence said:
Update. Do not buy this!
Check my result now above in the OP!
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i don't want to sound like a douche but the outcome was to be expected. given a definite size for a battery, there's only so much power you can cram into it and it's already highly unlikely that a 3rd party cheap battery would match or slightly surpass the branded original one, that it's basically just screaming scam when dirt cheap, noname batteries claim insane power like 2600-2850 mah vs the stock 1900

There are ways to cram more power into the same space. Using higher quality cells or better manufacturing can lead to better batteries. I'm not vouching for any of these off brands, and in most cases you can consider them bad, but there are exceptions. But it seems finding a reputable brand or original S3 batteries would be your best bet for extended slim batteries
Sent from my Galaxy S Relay

Anyone got extended battery for this mobile phone??

I got one on ebay. The battery comes fast but it shown 100% charge during the first time usage. But drain out too fast. I use this extended battery and made my phone as thick as a brick. The battery life didn't works like it stated. So sad!! Anyone can suggest one to me???

just use the samsung one with the charging kit, its really portable, theres a carrying case for the battery, and doesn't add much space in your pocket, especially if you're a guy. and makes the phone so much silmmer. and actually lasts long like the one the comes with the phone.

Don't go with no-name, cheap batteries, not because of horror stories like batteries exploding and whatnot, but because simply you will not get a product that performs anywhere near the claimed capacity.
Personally, I only see 3 options at the moment:
1. Get the Samsung battery kit, that comes with an extra genuine battery and an external charger/carrying case for it. That way, you don't add bulk to an already large phone and you have extra piece of mind with 100% extra juice.
2. Get an extended battery like the Mugen battery. It is pricey, but offers wireless charging capabilities as well as leaving NFC fully functional. I am currently testing a unit and it seems to indeed double battery life, like it's supposed to. I went from 4 hours SOT to 8.5 hours during the first charge cycle.
3. Get an even bigger extended battery like the Zerolemon one. It makes the phone huge, but also comes with a rugged protective case with port covers and an in-built screen protector. It can give you 3 times battery life you get from stock battery, although I haven't used it myself so I cannot confirm or deny.
I hope I helped you!

First ZeroLemon sucks. Had 2 they both went back. What battery did u use?
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

[Q] Battery Life and 4200mAh Replaceable Battery

Hey guys, I just wanted to check if my battery life is abnormal or not. During normal usage, it's a bit hard for me to compare because I'm tending to use this phone a lot more than my previous one (Xperia Z1 Compact) but overnight, it would tend to lose at least 7-8%. Last night, I decided to try disabling auto-sync, put it on Power Saving and see what would happen (as well as closed all my apps through the regular task manager) and it dropped a whopping from 45% to 31%! Don't know how that happened.
When I go into the Power menu, I can see that Android System used 13%, Android OS and Screen used 10% each, Google Play Services used 9% and a few other apps and services used 4% or less. I got my Note Edge in Australia and is currently using it in the U.K but it's an international variant (SM-N915G) and is compatible with my current carrier (O2). I'm running stock 5.0.1 rooted. Do you guys think it's normal?
Another question regarding the battery: I have never owned a smartphone before that allowed me to switch batteries so I was wondering, would something like this or this be trustworthy? They seem really cheap and the capacity is 4200mAh whereas the stock battery is only 3000mAh. From your experience buying replaceable batteries, is it safe to use something like this (not to mention, they says they're compatible with the N9150 but didn't mention the N915G)? Thanks a lot in advance!

A lot of folks have had similar issues with lollipop. Backup all your data and do and full reset. Seems to sort out the battery drain issues
Good luck

ZaJules said:
A lot of folks have had similar issues with lollipop. Backup all your data and do and full reset. Seems to sort out the battery drain issues
Good luck
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Thanks a lot. Just a quick noobie question, should I just backup with Titanium and then do a reset from inside the OS or should I do it through CWM (I already have a recent enough nand backup). Cheers!

I have had horrid battery life since lollipop upgrade. I want to go back to kit kat so bad. Primarily because of the battery and because notifications appear as overlays in some apps now instead of on the edge. The phone also is less responsive. I kick myself every day for upgrading.
Side note, are the batteries listed above supposed to actually fit inside the phone with no physical distortion?

steve austin said:
I have had horrid battery life since lollipop upgrade. I want to go back to kit kat so bad. Primarily because of the battery and because notifications appear as overlays in some apps now instead of on the edge. The phone also is less responsive. I kick myself every day for upgrading.
Side note, are the batteries listed above supposed to actually fit inside the phone with no physical distortion?
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I haven't had any major issues since upgrading to Lollipop, I was just hoping to squeeze a bit more out of the battery life. As for responsiveness, I'd say it's about the same, if not slightly better. You sound like you might also do with a factory reset. I just want to know if the factory reset option in the settings would do the job or if I should do it from the recovery.
As for the above batteries, I would imagine that they should fit perfectly since they were designed for the Note Edge but since I have had no experience with replaceable batteries, I would like to hear some confirmation.

I have mine on power saving mode and screen brightness on 43%. I get two full days usage so I only charge it once every two days.

colint3 said:
I have mine on power saving mode and screen brightness on 43%. I get two full days usage so I only charge it once every two days.
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In those 2 days, could you take a look and let me know how long your screen was on for?

I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.

Beetle84 said:
I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.
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Damn, I hope your phone is still okay! Thanks for the heads up!

Beetle84 said:
I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.
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Yeah, that was my concern. The only time I had a higher capacity battery fit snugly into a phone and work as intended was when I had my htc sensation. Anker made a higher mA battery that really worked. Everything now seems to be a sham. I will avoid it.

You can't fit more capacity of battery in the same size more than it's done by Samsung, otherwise they would do it. These are just fake numbers, I'm sure they're even less than the 3,000 made by Samsung.
As for the resetting your phone, settings option pretty much does the job.