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One plus one or honor 6 ?

i love the size and style of this phone and i would like to give huawei a try...one plus one seems to big and is getting very common.......should i go for honor 6 or save up for one+..is it worth it?
do you think that one plus one's massive specs have any practical use..i think 40k antutu score of honor 6 is more than enough.
is there any scope of strong xda support for honor 6 like we have for one plus one ?

hy,
... wait for huawei P8 ...
i think will a nice surprice:
- better camera, better standby, more compact size

purupandey said:
i love the size and style of this phone and i would like to give huawei a try...one plus one seems to big and is getting very common.......should i go for honor 6 or save up for one+..is it worth it?
do you think that one plus one's massive specs have any practical use..i think 40k antutu score of honor 6 is more than enough.
is there any scope of strong xda support for honor 6 like we have for one plus one ?
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Go for one+. Simply due to better dev support. Huawei doesn't really release all it's sources which make it very difficult for devs. I mean honor6 users will be stuck on Kitkat forever if huawei doesnt release official Lollipop whereas the 1+ is rocking stable and fast CM12 builds!
You could wait for 1+ 2 though. But it could be a long wait and and it'll be more expensive than 1+ one. So it's ur choice

I am leaning towards Honor 6 simply because I do not want a 5.5" screen. I find that too big.
My concern about Honor 6 is whether 16GB is enough as I am currently on a 32GB Xiaomi Mi2. I might just go for a 32GB Honor 6 H60-L12 shipped directly from China.

jiehao85 said:
I am leaning towards Honor 6 simply because I do not want a 5.5" screen. I find that too big.
My concern about Honor 6 is whether 16GB is enough as I am currently on a 32GB Xiaomi Mi2. I might just go for a 32GB Honor 6 H60-L12 shipped directly from China.
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You have to check which 3G/4G bands are used in your country. For example, in Europe, the One+ supports only the 4G band 2600 (and not the 800 and 1800 ones that are also used), whereas the honor6 (L04) supports all of them (and the L12 supports 2600 and 1800 but not 800).
The European version of Honor (L04) has a micro sd slot so the space is not a problem.
Apparently, the L12 does not have this slot but has two simcards.
Nonetheless, as shubham1120 said, the dev on honor is much more difficult to do that on One+ (that means no upgrade if Huawei does not want so).

Gwenm said:
The European version of Honor (L04) has a micro sd slot so the space is not a problem.
Apparently, the L12 does not have this slot but has two simcards.
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You wrong, L02/L12 have 2 sim slots and 1 micro sd slot.

VirusPlus said:
You wrong, L02/L12 have 2 sim slots and 1 micro sd slot.
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Sorry, corrected.

I understand why you want dev support. But we have CM11 which works flawless most of the time. What else could you want? Most custom ROM's are either based off the stock ROM, which no one really wants for the Honor 6, or based off a CM version. We are only behind by 1 release (CM12) so it's not that bad. The phone is great.

Currently, I have narrowed down to Moto X 2014 and Honor 6. With my workplace sponsoring me for my next mobile, I am very tempted to go with the higher priced Moto X 2014. I am basically just holding back on a 5.5" screen which I find to be far too big. Otherwise, I would have gotten OnePlus One a few months back.

on my preference, the only lacking feature on this phone is the tap to wake gesture. that is a must have on a newly released phone atleast last years releases. even the honor 6 plus and the 4x got this feature

renusuke said:
on my preference, the only lacking feature on this phone is the tap to wake gesture. that is a must have on a newly released phone atleast last years releases. even the honor 6 plus and the 4x got this feature
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If Honor 6 Plus has that feature, I am not sure why Honor 6 doesn't has it. Perhaps all it takes is a software update to enable the feature?

jiehao85 said:
Currently, I have narrowed down to Moto X 2014 and Honor 6. With my workplace sponsoring me for my next mobile, I am very tempted to go with the higher priced Moto X 2014. I am basically just holding back on a 5.5" screen which I find to be far too big. Otherwise, I would have gotten OnePlus One a few months back.
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It's a no brainier! Moto x 2014 has 5.2" screen and difference isn't much if u ask me..go for moto x and get some moto and amoled love!!:
Edit- why not go for turbo instead? Beastly specs and 64gigs!

shubham1120 said:
It's a no brainier! Moto x 2014 has 5.2" screen and difference isn't much if u ask me..go for moto x and get some moto and amoled love!!:
Edit- why not go for turbo instead? Beastly specs and 64gigs!
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Moto X have terrible battery life and no micro-sd slot.

theoneofgod said:
Moto X have terrible battery life and no micro-sd slot.
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Moto turbo then! 3900 mah is just sick!!
Also, faster updates (of course if u care about it)

I think huawei honor 6 is better than one plus one.

I own both honor 6 and OPO...Which device you want is based on your use..If you are a hardcore flasher and love the droid development and want to be ahead in terms of updates than you should start saving money for OPO..and believe me its worth to wait for invite also...But...but...if you are a casual user and want a good camera and battery life with hardcore gaming than go for honor 6 loaded with CM 11 of codeworkx...!!
Anything else??
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I asked my friend to bring me a 6plus from China recently. The screen size is a bit big. And I do not really like emui. The battery is great.

OnePlus One, simply for a better UI and dev support

h06l12
Just got a dual sim 32gb fdd-lte from China.
Coming from a galaxy s5 and a nexus 5, this phone is really smooth.
I wasn't expecting such performance from a mid range phone - I had also been using a Gionee M3/BLU Studio Energy, but the mid range mediatek processor and 1gb of ram really let it down - performance was shocking.
I ran Antutu benchmark and came out with 44,900 .. just shy of 45k .. beating out the oneplusone and S5.
fully stock with some preinstalled apps frozen, no root, no unlocked bootloader
loving it so far .. it is the same weight as the N5 but a little taller and thinner. amazing that they fit in such a large battery.
There is also that tempered glass screen protector which adds capacitive buttons and some shortcut buttons which i am waiting for (in the mail) but that should free up some more screen real estate.
am thinking of rooting just to adblock and run xposed framework.

Mediapad X3 (yes, THREE). Is this legit?

This site claims to list specs for the Mediapad X3. Anyone know if
1.) These specs are legit?
2.) This site is legit?
Thanx.
LINK: http://www.ghdeal.com/huawei-mediapad-x3.html

shassouneh said:
This site claims to list specs for the Mediapad X3. Anyone know if
1.) These specs are legit?
2.) This site is legit?
Thanx.
LINK: http://www.ghdeal.com/huawei-mediapad-x3.html
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No, that can't be legit. I think they have mistaken it for an X2, the X3 won't be out for a few more months. I hope they don't use a 4K screen, 1080P is fine especially with the crazy battery life we get now.

If that is legit, with specs like that and no 4glte band for the usa, I am going to stick with my x2. Only features that would win me over would be a finger print reader, better camera, built in wireless charging, nfc, and the Internation version being showed more attention by huawei dealing with updates. Then I would think about it. I would highly doubt it would be selling ($459) for that price. Hardware like that would make it the fastest fablet every. Just like comparing the LeTV Le Max 2 (when it is released) to the rest of the phones. And you know that will be about $800-$900. China Need to shake hands with google and start putting thoses gapps properly on these phones. Would improve sales 100 times over.

ajsmsg78 said:
No, that can't be legit. I think they have mistaken it for an X2, the X3 won't be out for a few more months. I hope they don't use a 4K screen, 1080P is fine especially with the crazy battery life we get now.
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I agree about the battery life. The X2 is the best phone I have ever had. There is a bit of discoloration on my screen (I think the hanging air freshner hit the scree too many times), plus my "phone period" is acting up, so I'm starting to drool over the X3. I do agree though that 1080p on a 7 inch screen is plenty. Anything higher won't add any value. I mean if I wanted 4k, i'd buy an 80 inch TV
mtyler7807 said:
If that is legit, with specs like that and no 4glte band for the usa, I am going to stick with my x2. Only features that would win me over would be a finger print reader, better camera, built in wireless charging, nfc, and the Internation version being showed more attention by huawei dealing with updates. Then I would think about it. I would highly doubt it would be selling ($459) for that price. Hardware like that would make it the fastest fablet every. Just like comparing the LeTV Le Max 2 (when it is released) to the rest of the phones. And you know that will be about $800-$900. China Need to shake hands with google and start putting thoses gapps properly on these phones. Would improve sales 100 times over.
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There will never be 4G LTE US bands. The phone was never designed for North American markets. Actually, I find that HSDPA is more than sufficient for 99% of the tasks, including watching YouTube. I actually bought a nexus 6 SPECIFICALLY to get 4G LTE and I couldn't stand it. It was clear the mediapad is a far superior device even at HSDPA+, so I returned the nexus in a hurry.
What I would LOVE to see in the X3:
1.) More RAM. Android keeps killing my background apps as part of its memory management.
2.) Better camera (yes I know the mediapad X2 has excellent cameras), but icing on the cake is a good thing right?
3.) EMUI (I actually like it). Please please Huawei don't F**** with something that works
4.) Google apps built in
and finally
5.) 4G LTE Us Bands (I know I know this won't happen, but I can dream right?)

mtyler7807 said:
If that is legit, with specs like that and no 4glte band for the usa, I am going to stick with my x2. Only features that would win me over would be a finger print reader, better camera, built in wireless charging, nfc, and the Internation version being showed more attention by huawei dealing with updates. Then I would think about it. I would highly doubt it would be selling ($459) for that price. Hardware like that would make it the fastest fablet every. Just like comparing the LeTV Le Max 2 (when it is released) to the rest of the phones. And you know that will be about $800-$900. China Need to shake hands with google and start putting thoses gapps properly on these phones. Would improve sales 100 times over.
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Oh, and speaking of the Le max 2, I just looked it up (haven't heard of it before)
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/09/30/letv-le-max-2-specs-rumoured-to-include-6gb-ram-snapdragon-820-imx300/
I lost interest as soon as I read this sentence: "5.7-inch 2K display"
5.7? What is this 1983? I may as well go back in time, Back-To-The-Future style and get a (GAG ME) iPhone!

I think I'm picking up a Huawei Mate 8 to go alongside my X2's. It has the LTE Bands for the US supposedly and even has band 12 for T-Mobile.

ajsmsg78 said:
I think I'm picking up a Huawei Mate 8 to go alongside my X2's. It has the LTE Bands for the US supposedly and even has band 12 for T-Mobile.
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Just looked it up. Really nice specs. I also like the design language Huawei used.
Only one problem (for me): Its TINY! I returned the nexus 6 (even though its about as good of an android phone as it gets) because it was way too small for me

shassouneh said:
Just looked it up. Really nice specs. I also like the design language Huawei used.
Only one problem (for me): Its TINY! I returned the nexus 6 (even though its about as good of an android phone as it gets) because it was way too small for me
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I agree. I have a nexus 6 as well but I don't use it that much because the X2 battery is worlds better and the X2 pulls in a better signal most of the time. The problem is when I go to any wedding or party or the city it's sometimes hard to carry the X2 with me as I can't really sit down with it in my pocket. The Nexus 6 also has a better camera so I take it with me a lot of times. So I like to have both a 7 inch phone and a 6 inch smaller phone to carry with me sometimes. I'm selling the 6 to a friend and getting the 64GB Mate 8.

ajsmsg78 said:
I agree. I have a nexus 6 as well but I don't use it that much because the X2 battery is worlds better and the X2 pulls in a better signal most of the time. The problem is when I go to any wedding or party or the city it's sometimes hard to carry the X2 with me as I can't really sit down with it in my pocket. The Nexus 6 also has a better camera so I take it with me a lot of times. So I like to have both a 7 inch phone and a 6 inch smaller phone to carry with me sometimes. I'm selling the 6 to a friend and getting the 64GB Mate 8.
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Nice! Yes, Android updates aside the Mate 8 is way better than nexus 6. I wasn't really impressed much with the nexus 6. Nice phone at all, but it seems mediapad x2 is much more of a premium device, even with the lack of US 4G LTE.
I use my mediapad as a daily driver and watch youtube even when in the car (it helps immensely with my school work or when I'm driving to go take a calculus test). I tried doing that with the nexus and it became apparent a 6" is far too small. Heck I even had a Z Ultra (awesome phone btw) but I felt it was too small

mtyler7807 said:
If that is legit, with specs like that and no 4glte band for the usa, I am going to stick with my x2. Only features that would win me over would be a finger print reader, better camera, built in wireless charging, nfc, and the Internation version being showed more attention by huawei dealing with updates. Then I would think about it. I would highly doubt it would be selling ($459) for that price. Hardware like that would make it the fastest fablet every. Just like comparing the LeTV Le Max 2 (when it is released) to the rest of the phones. And you know that will be about $800-$900. China Need to shake hands with google and start putting thoses gapps properly on these phones. Would improve sales 100 times over.
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Just for curiosity - how much would you be willing to pay for a device with such specs ? Because I would also seriously consider it also

I'll just wait for the X4 coz our x2 will still get a sweet marshmallow update soon. If that x3 will have bezelfree screen and significantly lighter (maybe 200g) then it will be very tempting to buy it asap.

mcdhol_24 said:
I'll just wait for the X4 coz our x2 will still get a sweet marshmallow update soon. If that x3 will have bezelfree screen and significantly lighter (maybe 200g) then it will be very tempting to buy it asap.
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Only if you haven't rooted like I have

Seasons Greetings X2 owners, what do we think of this just announced LG G Pad II 8.3 LTE ? A successor to the X2 ? I am always looking for a larger screen device which I can still use as a phone

elio321 said:
Seasons Greetings X2 owners, what do we think of this just announced LG G Pad II 8.3 LTE ? A successor to the X2 ? I am always looking for a larger screen device which I can still use as a phone
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It's Just a tablet. It will be nowhere near as good as the Mediapad M2.

astuntas said:
Just for curiosity - how much would you be willing to pay for a device with such specs ? Because I would also seriously consider it also
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No Gapps and usa lte $550 because of the of the performance. My honor x2 is a fast phone. I would sell this for $325 and put $225 to it. now with usa lte and gapps, I would have to wait, it would cost $1000 or better. look at the price of the nexus 6 and 6p.

mtyler7807 said:
No Gapps and usa lte $550 because of the of the performance. My honor x2 is a fast phone. I would sell this for $325 and put $225 to it. now with usa lte and gapps, I would have to wait, it would cost $1000 or better. look at the price of the nexus 6 and 6p.
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I just love your signiture (death to iPhones)

shassouneh said:
I just love your signiture (death to iPhones)
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Thank you¡!!! I speak the truth in the signature. Haha

ajsmsg78 said:
No, that can't be legit. I think they have mistaken it for an X2, the X3 won't be out for a few more months. I hope they don't use a 4K screen, 1080P is fine especially with the crazy battery life we get now.
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http://www.ainol-novo.com/huawei-mediapad-x3-phablet.html They put them out fast as lighting. I still wish they would add some more bands to it. They will be available soon.

I have the mediapad x2 and I thought for sure I would get the mediapad x3 when it comes out but I decided to wait for Samsung's 8 inch phone(Galaxy Tab s3 8.0 LTE) that comes out in Sept or Oct of this year instead. 7 inch phones are just too tiny for me now, probably gonna get a 9 inch phone next year if Samsung makes one.

This thread seems pretty active so... thought I would ask you pros.
When i reference this page: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
It shows bands 2/4 for HSPA+.
When I look at this page: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/tablets/tech-specs/mediapad-x2.htm
It shows that it supports GSM/UMTS band 2 (I don't know which of these HSPA+ would fall into). I'm pretty sure that T-Mobile Band 2 is area specific and isn't nation-wide, am I SOL in terms of being able to get this awesome device for T-Mobile?
EDIT.. maybe I'm thinking of band 2 lte specifically. idk.
alright found another thread, sorry guys ignore this question.

Worth Upgrading? S5 to Honor 8

I have had a galaxy s5 for 2 years, and noticed over time things have become slow.
With multple apps I had to use some tools to get these to run from the SD card VIA app.
Seems that 16 GB of room isnt that much when you keep adding (some apps take up 2 GB)
I am also enjoy custom rom, recovery, root.
Here is my concerns:
Stats on the S5 look better on paper then the Honor 8:
Higher camera MP, Higher video resolution, faster processor, S5 has a few more senstors.
Gaming on Honor 8:
Heard some comparisons that with the processor that gaming is slow for higher end games.
I know right now games like injustice DC on my S5 are slow at times.
Comparison:
Is it better off waiting for an S7 (if I can get it unlocked bootloader) or going with an Honor 8 ?
I hate going with the main stream. I dont mind Samsung phones, but observations tell me Huawei are really good too.
I will post if I think of any other concerns,
Its not every day I drop 400$ on a phone, just want to make sure I make the right choice.
Thank you

If you like to flash custom roms and Play with you rooted phone all around staying on S5 will be better choice. If you need a great quality camera and you are ok with what you get out of the box then you can go for Honor 8.
Currently I can see that there is not much development for Custom ROM for Honor 8. However we are expecting it to happen soon.

vsriram92 said:
If you like to flash custom roms and Play with you rooted phone all around staying on S5 will be better choice. If you need a great quality camera and you are ok with what you get out of the box then you can go for Honor 8.
Currently I can see that there is not much development for Custom ROM for Honor 8. However we are expecting it to happen soon.
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My s5 is limited , mostly due to room on phone.
Using Safestrap for recovery.
And the rom is stock with root.
I do see some development, but not much as you have said.
Reason I am looking now is because you can get one on black friday for 100$ off so would set the 64 GB model at 350$

I'll preface this by saying you may want to look at the One Plus 3T. It has a beefier GPU than the Honor 8 and can record 4K video, but no SD card slot. The 64GB version is $440 the 128GB version is $480. The Honor 8's 64GB version is $450. I had a low end Samsung Galaxy Avant I upgraded from with 16GB of storage and used root+Link2SD and a 64GB SD card to store games and apps. I had ~7GB free on the internal storage and 30GB free on the SD card. On my 32GB Honor 8 I have 15GB free internally and about 30GB free on the same SD card. So consider how that may fit with your particular storage needs. Either option is more than $400 but probably still a lot less than even a refurbished S7, so it seems reasonable to me.
The paper stats are misleading.
Pure camera MP doesn't mean a whole lot. I have only seen S7 to Honor 8 camera comparisons, but they were generally considered evenly matched in daylight with the S7 having more saturated colors and the Honor 8 having better detail. In low light the S7 was generally better. And the S7 can record 4K video while the Honor 8 cannot. I haven't seen any direct comparisons between the Honor 8 and S7 with the S5 and don't really want to read S6 reviews to see how it compares to the S5 and then read S7 reviews to see how it compares to the S6 and try to guess from there.
The Honor 8's Kirin 950 4x 2.3 Ghz A72 cores + 4x 1.8 Ghz A53s will be across the board faster than the S5's 4x 2.5 Ghz Krait cores. App loading time, scrolling, etc will all be better on the Honor 8. Like I said I haven't seen any direct comparisons to the S5, but the GPU should be maybe ~30% faster? I mostly play emulators on my phone, so I couldn't tell you how GTA or Need for Speed run on the Honor 8 from first hand experience. I'd consider the OP3T if you want high end games to run super smooth.
The Honor 8's a really nice phone and the Nougat beta that just went out added the App drawer and improved notification shade with EMUI 5.0 which was something a lot of people hated about the phone's software.

I have looked at the One Plus 3 and what turned me off was the no micro SD.
Have also looked at the LeEco Le Pro3 Ecophone, and that is limited to 64 internal and no SD.
The One Plus3T does look nice, but cost wise wonder if the LeEco would be better option at 300$ Black friday.. If I can figure out how to live without external storage.
One of the external storage issues is I use Titanium backup as well as nandroid backups, not sure where I would put those.
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I'll preface this by saying you may want to look at the One Plus 3T. It has a beefier GPU than the Honor 8 and can record 4K video, but no SD card slot. The 64GB version is $440 the 128GB version is $480. The Honor 8's 64GB version is $450. I had a low end Samsung Galaxy Avant I upgraded from with 16GB of storage and used root+Link2SD and a 64GB SD card to store games and apps. I had ~7GB free on the internal storage and 30GB free on the SD card. On my 32GB Honor 8 I have 15GB free internally and about 30GB free on the same SD card. So consider how that may fit with your particular storage needs. Either option is more than $400 but probably still a lot less than even a refurbished S7, so it seems reasonable to me.
The paper stats are misleading.
Pure camera MP doesn't mean a whole lot. I have only seen S7 to Honor 8 camera comparisons, but they were generally considered evenly matched in daylight with the S7 having more saturated colors and the Honor 8 having better detail. In low light the S7 was generally better. And the S7 can record 4K video while the Honor 8 cannot. I haven't seen any direct comparisons between the Honor 8 and S7 with the S5 and don't really want to read S6 reviews to see how it compares to the S5 and then read S7 reviews to see how it compares to the S6 and try to guess from there.
The Honor 8's Kirin 950 4x 2.3 Ghz A72 cores + 4x 1.8 Ghz A53s will be across the board faster than the S5's 4x 2.5 Ghz Krait cores. App loading time, scrolling, etc will all be better on the Honor 8. Like I said I haven't seen any direct comparisons to the S5, but the GPU should be maybe ~30% faster? I mostly play emulators on my phone, so I couldn't tell you how GTA or Need for Speed run on the Honor 8 from first hand experience. I'd consider the OP3T if you want high end games to run super smooth.
The Honor 8's a really nice phone and the Nougat beta that just went out added the App drawer and improved notification shade with EMUI 5.0 which was something a lot of people hated about the phone's software.
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I'm on the same boat. Wanting to go from my S5 exynos version (which doesnt have much development anyway) to Honor 8 (Kirin again do not have much development). What makes me compare both are are both having great camera, IR blaster and SD card and about 5.1 to 5.2" size (my comfort zone). These 4 are absolute necessary features for me. Now, my only question is whether the Camera on Honor 8 is indeed better than S5 in every situation? Are the colors richer... HDR better? Can someone help me decide. I have already placed an order from Amazon (with a friend of mine) for just $260 for the 32 GB variant which I can cancel if if necessary. Please help me decide.

Really no comparison. At $260 its well worth to upgrade from an S5

I was using an S5 also for a few years. This is a great phone, if I have any complaints it's with EMUI 4, but I hear that 5 is light years better. If you are worried about the camera, don't be if you are used to the S5 camera. It's a lot better.
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Bigwill63 said:
I was using an S5 also for a few years. This is a great phone, if I have any complaints it's with EMUI 4, but I hear that 5 is light years better. If you are worried about the camera, don't be if you are used to the S5 camera. It's a lot better.
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I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.

eracet said:
I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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I just bought one on Friday as well. Got a 64 GB for $227 on Jet.com. I was really wanting a OnePlus 3 or 3T but $227 for the honor 8 was a steal. I just got it yesterday and haven't opened it yet because I am still deciding if I want to keep it or send it back and hold onto my LG G3 a bit longer.

skrypj said:
I just bought one on Friday as well. Got a 64 GB for $227 on Jet.com. I was really wanting a OnePlus 3 or 3T but $227 for the honor 8 was a steal. I just got it yesterday and haven't opened it yet because I am still deciding if I want to keep it or send it back and hold onto my LG G3 a bit longer.
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I also picked up a 64gb for the same price and it is a steal at that price....I'll give you $227 plus shipping If you decide to send it back.
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eracet said:
I ended up buying it on the black friday sales. With some extras.
So far it is very fast.
I do have a few issues with the EMUI 4, such as no app drawer.
So ended up loading a custom launcher ( Nova) and now just getting it all in place and the way I like it is going to take some time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Been on Sony(ericcson) for almost a decade and after viewing the EMUI 5.0 Nougat video on XDA i made up my decision on BlackFriday sales to go for honor 8 with lots of goodies,, (will get my phone next month as someone else bought it from me) well lets see how it goes.,

Same here, come from S5 with Cyanogenmod
But now i´m very happy with the honor.
good camera, much faster and root is no problem.

Would you recommend the Honor 8 ?

Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .

Tarbruh said:
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community

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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.

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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .

Sheldd said:
Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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The Xperia X has the edge in performance over the H8 but it overheats when using the camera idk if sony fixed it or not.Axon 7 is pricey for me 600 dollars but its a great phone.The Xiaomi MI 5S is cheap and packs perfromance with the SD 821 but being a Xiaomi doesn't it have poor software ?

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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).

maxlnc said:
I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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Im in the same state of endless comparisons and watching reviews for phones . From reviews and speed tests the Honor 8 seems like a great deal , in app opening comparsion it was leading 15 to 5 againts the Iphone 7 Plus if 100% true in normal use its a pretty fast phone and is concidered as one of the best 400 dollar phones . My concern is the UI and support i will slap google now launcher but for support updates and so on its a Huawei after all and i don't have experience with them . Most of my root and rom adventures were made with my Galaxy S3 Neo because it came with Android 4.4.2 and never got an update and with the help of roms it had 6.0.1 from the S6 with an overclocked Kernel and slow motion camera mod. All of the reviews for the X performance say that Sony are asking too much (700$) for the flaws it has . I put a thread on the Sony forum but no response yet . For me the price is lower 430$ for the Xperia but if the bugs are not fixed by Sony its dissapointing . I really like the Galaxy S6 but after all its a 2015 model . Xiaomi MI 5s supports my 4G network but being a Xiaomi software wise i think its badly optimized.

Sheldd said:
Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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I have the Honor 8 and have been using it for the last 3 months or so.
I'm not into all these tests but I know that the phone has stood up to everything that I have thrown at it and I use my phone allot.
If you want a good, solid phone that looks good and will be kept upto date for the next couple of years then get the Honor 8
My flat mate has got the pixel and after using it I really can't see how it's worth the extra couple of £100
John

In my mind, the only phones that are worth getting if you want to flash roms are OnePlus and Google, the rest are not worthwhile. These two phones are the only ones that will get great support on XDA. If this is your purpose then don't even bother considering any other brand, it's just a waste of your time. Even if it is available for other phones you run into hassle with losing warranty by unlocking bootloader and doing more steps than needed. It's better just to get a OnePlus where all the custom rom features are already built in.
If you can get the Honor 8 for $300 new or less and wants a good camera it's worth it. I'm very happy with the camera for still shots which is what I mainly bought the phone for. It's the best camera I've used outside of Samsung so far, I think the Huawei and Samsung are the tops right now for camera. It's better than the Nexus 6P in term of dynamic and colors. Also Huawei currently make the best fingerprint scanner, albeit on the back. The hardware is fast, but expect lots of thermal throttling while gaming.
You will have to deal with some goofy battery management which turns off notification and background running apps, although there is a way to fix this but you have to whitelist the apps in two different nearly hidden places in the settings, although the new Nougat updates is supposed to improve this.
In term of updates support, I think it's pretty poor, at least in term of speed. Many phones are already on Nougat before this one. I do like the fact they made the stock firmware publicly available. The main thing that hampers this phone is the software.

Hey there. I was in the dilemma you are right now two months ago when I bought the Honor 8. I'm not disappointed at all, in the past few years I've used almost every brand there is, HTC, Samsung s3, Lg G2, Sony z3 Compact, Moto G 1 and 2, Sony z3, z3+ and m5, and my last phone was the Huawei p9 lite, I was astonished as to how that "cheap phone" camera could beat my Sony z3+ that I loved so much. That's when I paid attention To Huawei, and man they're doing a great job. Yes maybe in development you won't be able to do much, if that's what you're looking for, maybe it's better to look elsewhere, but in terms of battery, daily use performance and heavy usage, camera, good looking phone, this is a great deal. I bought for 400 when it was released. A few weeks ago my brother got it at 330, which was like stealing haha. And I know this month it will get Nougat. Emui software will be better with the update, not saying it was bad but many disliked it, I'm fine with it to be honest. And Honor offers 2 years of support after the date of release. So you'll get Android updates until mid-2018.
Hope this helps.

I really don't recommend buying a phone at the moment, as u know it's a new year
New phones and chipsets are released and prices eventually will drop. I recommend waiting for couple of months if you can.
Regarding the Honor 8 itself, I know there's something about this phone makes you want it although u can just save a little and get axon 7 or 1+3 and it's not a perfect phone either it lacks some things like OIS for videos and 4K for video.
Other than that it offers a great camera you should check threads here for camera samples, it does take very great still images!
I saw lots of comparisons too between that phone and others. Well in everyday usage there's no difference between it and a snapdragon 820 powered phone regarding opening apps and so .. The kirin 950 is pretty strong scoring 90K+ in antutu benchmark which is okay.. You shouldn't be worried about a game that won't run smoothly on it at the moment! But it's not the best developer friendly unlike snapdragon chipsets!
Beside all that it's a pretty phone ( sexy design, great camera, decent battery & good performance ) it has USB C and fast charging and the chipset supports Vulkan API which makes somewhat it future proof. Also about the EMUI, it can grow on you over time it has neat features not laggy as people might suggest it has theme engine too plenty of customizability and gestures, I don't see it lacking other than the looks of the pure android but that can be fixed by using nova launcher.
Bottom line, if u don't mind the UI and the development area ( it exists but it may take a while ) definitely go for it .. Otherwise u may consider saving or buying One Plus 3 if you're a flashaholic there are plenty of ROMs for the one plus, And a strong development community!

I have the FRD-L14 (64 GB USA version) for $340 total from Amazon. It has replaced my Sony Z3 Compact that I had for two years bought for $500. Tell you what the Honor 8 is worth the money. Fast and responsive. The 4 GB of memory is awesome since apps stay in memory so multitasking is mostly instant. 64 GB memory + 64 GB microSD = awesome. Camera is fast enough with good quality. The screen is the only downside compared to flagship phones costing $600+ but I came from the Sony Z3 Compact display so it's not a problem for me. Maybe I am also lucky but I don't have a blue-ish tint on certain reviews.
The best thing about this is it has Band 12 LTE for TMOBILE. I now have 3 bars of signal sitting in my office instead of 1 or zero or searching all the time. The HD Voice call is also super clear. The speaker phone, though, could be better. The fingerprint scanner is just as good as the Samsung or Apple. Two THUMBS UP. I would upgrade to the Honor 9-10 down the road assuming they keep the price competitive.

Price of Honor 8
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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I just bought a Honor 8 from a dealer on ebay..paid $250....New but no box..

Exactly as the others say the Honor 8 is a great phone! It is fast, good looking and has a great camera! So in 2015 I was looking for a new phone to replace my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this seller showed me the Honor 7 but it didn't really appeal to me that much (Mostly because of EMUI) and I decided to keep on using my S4 Mini.
But a few weeks ago I got the Honor 8 for 325€ (Discounted) even if I didn't really like EMUI that much I must say, it is better than I expected! Now there is a few things I still don't like in EMUI (Like the split Notifications and Shortcuts) but in the new EMUI 5 update that is currently being rolled out, it will just get a whole lot better and many of the things I find annoying is fixed
So would I recommend this phone? Yes I would definitivtly recommend this phone for someone who is looking for a great phone but still not to expensive, even though it doesn't have that many custom ROMS yet (Coming from someone who used Custom ROMS a lot previously) I think we will get more custom ROMS within a few months

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Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it
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I've been using it since 1st December 2016 and I wouldn't recommend it, 'cause:
1. It has no system-level equalizer;
2. It has no system-level audio balance tweaker(?);
3. When using the app com.rubycell.pianisthd, the audio output is full of "clicks"; no longer with android 7
4. It's kirin-based, therefore "good luck" with custom roms.
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I'm not gonna sell it any soon 'cause I can kinda live with it thanks to Poweramp, but come on, the audio subsystem of this phone is sh*t. You should only get it if you're deaf or for some reason you don't enjoy listening to music.
I apologize for being this rude.

The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.

PErsonally, I like it over the S7 Edge. Faster and smoother.
Handful of reasons the S7 Edge is the daily driver:
Larger screen
Better video and slightly better camera shots
Audio can be tweaked
Only major con is the ugly IOS skin on the Honor 8. Personally i like it a ton.

Sheldd said:
Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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Unfortunately the OP3 and OP3T have no microSD-cardslot.
You have to consider this.
the Honor 8 has the following advantages.
- fairly fast (Arm Cortex A72 CPU's) and due to a FHD-screen the gfx-perfomance is even slightly faster than e.g. the galaxy S5.
--> so many (older) high-end games run quite good.
- great screen (wide gamut LCD screen)
- IR-blaster
--> and reviewers don't mention this but the Honor's IR-blaster is both output AND input, which means it can "learn" codes from other remotes while the e.g. Samsung's can't.
--> works also good with other IR-blaster apps too.
- microSD-slot
- price compared to known-brand flagships and mid-range devices (bar the oneplus models)
--> the standard Honor 8 (32GB) has a great price/performance-ratio IMHO and there's usually some sale somewhere
--> got mine with a free 64GB card so it was even greater value for money
- camera is good for the price
--> great quick shortcut (with volume-keys or fingerscanner-button)
- EMUI has some nice tricks with the fingerprint-scanner
--> e.g. there's a "safe" to store private files which can be locked/unlocked with fingerprint
- bootloader CAN be unlocked and is fairly easy to root.
--> Huawei themselves supply the unlock codes which is great, isn't it?
- beautifull design. It looks great and the camera is completely flush
- mirrorcast (to non-Samsung TV's) works fine without rooting and tampering with the build.prop
disadvantages.
- it is VERY slippery
- not as fast as particularly Oneplus 3 (and 3T) which cost the same
--> Honor 8 premium cost the same as OnePlus 3/T and has the same internal storage capacity
- some people prefer QHD
--> this doesn't bother me personally but it might be a dealbreaker for some
- no EQ on the standard music app or anywhere else on the device
--> so you need another music-player if you really want this or other audio-enhancements.
- Samsung's still have better camera's for low-light photography especially the S6 (IMHO the S6 is even better than the S7 in this respect)
- no DLNA so you'll need an optional app for this. Though screencast works fine.
--> I tried the old Skifta-app myself from qualcomm and it works great. Unfortunately you have to look hard to find this though asit isn't on Play anymore.
IMHO the Honor 8 is a great little device. Sufficiently powerful and it has most of important points covered.
As for me, the SD-card slot, IR-blaster and the better deal (with a free 64GB card) were the main reasons to go for the Honor8 instead for the OP3T
There's probably a lot more that I haven't covered but I have my device just 4 days so I'm not a "pro" just yet
So I hope this is helpful.

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The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
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Thanks for the long and explained point of view it seems that only on the honor 8 forum people comment on stuff like this because it made a thread on the x perfromance forum still 0 comments . The OP3T is a great phone and comes for about 470 dollars . Over the past few days i've got the conclusion that im not getting the honor 8 because its priced at 420 ish dollars and for and for the same price i can get the xperia which has the SD820 with a 1080p screen so it will perform 23 MP camera will fine compared to my current 12 or i can get for 460 the Zte Axon 7 also with SD820 2k display and amazing audio and if i go even higher i can get the S7 for 490 . But im thinking on not going too far for the S7 because the Xperia and Axon offer the same performance just losing on camera and ips sertification if i got with the axon but it has one of the best if not the best speakers and headphone output.

I just got a used one off of Amazon for $235. Honestly, I think it's worth that price, but I would recommend waiting for MWC at the very least. I only pulled the trigger on it right now because the only other phones in the price range I had (about $200 - $300), were the upcoming MOTO G5 series. I have been using a Moto E 2015, but I felt that since the Honor 8 had higher specs, a better design, a better camera, etc. that it was worth it.
Additionally, I think Huawei promised 2 years of support and the phone just came out, so we will definitely see Android O at the very least (which is pretty great).

Is the Mi 4c still good value?

This. I like Xiaomi's phones but live in a country where there are not too many options for a budget and not convinced with the Redmi 4A (my only option here besides Mi 4C and Mi 4). I tried buying a Moto G4 plus, stretching my budget a bit, but got the luck of the ghost touch issue which is annoying since it appears randomly and not only while charging. I wouldn't be convinced of the hardware even if I send it to warranty anymore.
So I found this Mi 4C (2 GB RAM) is strong phone for what I can see, I'm kind of a tinkerer and afraid of fingerprint readers, as soon as I'm convinced with the hardware I'm prepared to install custom ROMs.
Thanks for your advice and experience in advance.

I would aim for Redmi 4 prime with snap 625 instead if you can find one with decent price.

Letv LeEco Le 2 X520 is selling for 117.59 USD at TomTop. I would get that one.

To get a 2015 spec flagship for $100 that comes with Nougat sounds like a deal to me.

I don't know about 2GB version's performance, but I have the 3GB version because I have experienced of how 2GB performs. I also happen to have Mi4 (2GB). They are powered by snapdragon 8xx series. I think both are good value and performance devices, even in 2017.
I'm don't play games at all on smartphone. I'm just using it for productivity needs, business and other internet stuffs, and it works quite well and fast for multitasking like switching apps, back and forward, and so on.
The downsides for me are no official global firmware (but no worry, I can't stand MIUI though) and both has 5 inch display which is compact but it's a pain when it comes to spreadsheet..

I recommend Mi4c (4g). The cpu of 808 still works like a charm in the present day.
The prices are down as low as it go.