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I have a dilemma, im on my second fuze (first one had ear piece speaker problems, but flashed back to stock rom and SPL and did a warranty claim so that was no problem), now this one is having a problem where the PTT button must be shorted out or something because no matter what i do (hard reset, soft reset, take battery and sim card out) it keeps opening the comm manager and also the camera, and continues to shoot pictures untill i shut the stupid thing off. has anyone had this problem with the ptt button sticking? I cant send it in for another warranty claim because i have HardSPL on it and the newest NRG Rom, with the ptt button being constantly on i am not able to use the phone at all and can not flash everything back to stock to send it in.
any help would be appreciated, thanks guys
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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misfitwrx said:
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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if you buy a (h)iphone with problem you will just do the same?
why didnt you just bought the (h)iphone at once? if you say that now...
WE HAVE internet, and you should know about things.. i have my tpro about months and didnt touch it about flashing new roms before i know everthing about...
Go and buy an iPhone. Maybe a 3G @$$ one...
misfitwrx said:
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
You could flash a different rom via the microSD.
Download the rom you want to flash and locate the .NBH file. If its a shipped/stock rom, you'll have to extract it form the .exe.
Rename the .nbh file to RAPHIMG.NBH and copy it to the root of your storage card
Put your device in bootloader mode and it should prompt you if you want to flash your device.
Best of luck
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
Best of luck
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Customization, many freeware apps that are very good. As a professional who interfaces with many clients, my TP has been kept stock, only adding apps that I need. I have had mine about 4 months of flawless usage. Like any windows os's, if you don't know what you are doing, or install/uninstall lots of apps, you will run into problems.
As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
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As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
misfitwrx said:
sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
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I couldn't seem to find any pictures of an atomic Fuze, but plenty o'pics of the fried iPhones.
To each their own. Enjoy!
dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
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dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
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Yes, driving them seems similar but when things break and you need to fix it, that's when things become clear.
And you're right, to blindly hate is pointless.
I am just anti-apple period because of their all-exclusive devices and OS'.
I hated my Fuze out of the box but eventually I was able to make it do what I wanted and needed. Its that freedom that makes me appreciate WinMo, bugs and all.
And let's face it, even the iPhone has had it's share of issues out of the box, which is supposed to be their claim to fame....
Again, to each their own. No one's flaming you for your choice.
but.....
Chevy Rules!
one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
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one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
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I guess, but I get to keep my cheapo 15 dollar unlimited data package and I get to tether with it and you dont.
Haha and theres a couple things the fuze stock can do that the iphone cant.
1. MMS
2. FM Radio
3. Flashlight
4. Download songs off the web (MP3's)
5. Send and receive files and voice clips in Windows Live Messenger (MSN)
I'm missing some others but I'm sure it goes both ways. Although I got to say Opera 9.7 beta on turbo mode beats the iPhone 3GS surfing the web hands down. Super blazing fast.
Hi I just want to ask is it necessary to install a anti-virus on the android phone? do our android really get a virus? just asking for some opinion thanks in advance
Have yet to see a thread "help I have a virus" if that means anything.
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
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I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
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Punxx said:
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
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I am not trying to be rude but this logic resembles:
Everyday I throw $1.50 in quarters in my front lawn. It keeps the pink elephants from trampling down all my grass. I know it works because I have not had a pink elephant problem yet! ...I haven't actually seen them, but I know they are out there...
Punxx said:
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
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fatbas202 said:
I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
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I am not trying to be rude but this logic resembles:
Everyday I throw $1.50 in quarters in my front lawn. It keeps the pink elephants from trampling down all my grass. I know it works because I have not had a pink elephant problem yet! ...I haven't actually seen them, but I know they are out there...
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@Shovelhead84 - LOL
Honestly, I think both responses use bad logic. In the end it comes down to your comfort level. If you are comfortable using your phone with no A/V software and know how to rebuild/reset if you get a virus, then go for it. If the thought of using any device with an Operation System without A/V makes you squeamish, then put A/V on it.
Personally, I would never run a Windows Desktop OS without A/V and I have never installed A/V on any Linux device I have used (I don't see any need for the overhead when virus writers are not attacking the Linux kernel at this time). But that is my personal preference and does not make it right for anyone else.
I personally don't use any, I use Lookout, but only for the lost device protection, If I'm sideloading anything, I havea pretty good idea of what it is, and like another poster said, I'm sure if something did happen, it's nothing a fresh Odin flash couldn't help. If you don't use one, I wouldn't stress yourself out about it, I think you'd have to go out of your way to find a virus right now.
there are a couple good anti-virus apps out there that are free. Lookout and Dr Web... I've used both - didnt seem to affect the phone much. As i've learned with any computer, its always better to have the anti-virus and not need it, than it is to get a nasty virus and WISH you had it.... back in 2003 I got a virus on my pc (was in the middle of playing Halo) that crashed to my desktop and within about 10 mins half my hdd was gone! (corrupted beyond repair)
Sometimes a man/woman must take control of that which pleases him/her the most. I, for one, fully support and root the daylights out of any android phone I have. My reasoning is that I can control, make, destroy, and repair something that DOESN'T blow up in my face, thereby adding a tiny bit of chaos to an over all dull existence lol! Im just curious, what are your reasons/rationalizations for rooting phones? Have fun with your answers!
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Sometimes a man/woman must take control of that which pleases him/her the most. I, for one, fully support and root the daylights out of any android phone I have. My reasoning is that I can control, make, destroy, and repair something that DOESN'T blow up in my face, thereby adding a tiny bit of chaos to an over all dull existence lol! Im just curious, what are your reasons/rationalizations for rooting phones? Have fun with your answers!
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Hey mine is just as simple. I want to be able to do whatever i want to the damn thing. I want GB before the official build. I want CM when it comes to the Charge. Who are you (verizon) to tell me I have to keep crap on my phone that I will never use? You sold me the hardware, I pay you for the service. What I do with it from here on out is my business. I may be in a lone class here, but if I tethered a lot i would pay for it instead of using root to do it for free.
my phone my way is what it comes down to
I root because I can. I want full control over my phone. Like the other guy said, who is Verizon to tell me I can't do something with my phone? Also, I won't pay for anything unless I absolutely have to.
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I rooted to speed up my phone and save battery life(underclock, voodoo, better ROM, etc). I knew before I even bought this phone it was kind of bad out of the box. Touchwiz sucking as much ass as it does.
When it comes down to it there's only so much you can do to your phone without rooting, I wanted full access. Simple as is.
I rooted because I was bored and wanted to learn something new.
I rooted for 2 reasons
1) To get rid of the bloatware
2) To improve battery life
I could honestly live with stock if it had no bloatware and had great battery life. But we all know that will never happen on the US carriers.
for the 2nd time in less then 2months, my nexus 5 was friggin stolen today. The first time, while i was pretty upset, I turned it into a positive, cause I wanted the White one in the first place, and I ended up being able ot get a brand new white one as a replacement. but this time, I am sooooo damn pissed. My replacement (another 100$ later) will be here in 3-5days, and this time, I am like chaining that thing to me.
My damn GF left it sitting at the table in McDonalds. She was supposed to grab our stuff, while I put our garbage in the bin and went and started the car, about 5min after leaving, i asked for my phone....no phone, turn around go back, NO PHONE !
And at least last time I had my LG G2 as a backup phone so I had something nice to use while I waited for a replacement. But I since have sold the G2, and all I ahve is a Verizon Galaxy S3, which doesn't help me at all cause my Verizon account was closed back when the Nexus 5 came out cause I wanted that phone so bad, that I switched to T-Mobile. So now I got nothing but hte home phone, which today was the first time I've used a home phone in years, it was kinda weird lol.
Anyways, obviously this isn't a question or anything, and I apologize to the Mods for that, but this is the only site in which I can talk about what happened and have people know my pain, and I needed to vent, cause twice in less then 60 days is friggin BS to the 10th power. I've never lost a phone or had one stolen or even had to file a claim for phone insurance, in all the years of owning phones, which I am going on 10years (first phone when i was 17, and am 27 now)....I swear ! if someone takes my next Nexus 5, I am going postal up in whatever place it was that I had it taken from. lol
Sorry to hear about this, very unfortunate. Any luck tracking the device using the find my phone feature? Clutch your new phones tightly folks.
Damn man.. I feel for you. That sucks big time I would be so pissed if my gf left my phone at McDonalds lol. Hopefully you have better luck on the next one mate!
By the way, prepare for some random douche coming in to be an ass to you for posting this story
Dang. That sucks dude. I got mugged for my HTC one a couple weeks ago. Couldn't afford to buy another so went with the nexus 5. No brained really. This phone is awesome. Not missing the one too much. I gotta tell you tho. At least you lost it and didn't get a knife or worse pulled out. For future reference kit Kat has location always on. Even with the low accuracy setting, you should be able to find it with lookout if installed but I highly recommend android device manager. You'll find it in the play store.
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Dang. That sucks dude. I got mugged for my HTC one a couple weeks ago. Couldn't afford to buy another so went with the nexus 5. No brained really. This phone is awesome. Not missing the one too much. I gotta tell you tho. At least you lost it and didn't get a knife or worse pulled out. For future reference kit Kat has location always on. Even with the low accuracy setting, you should be able to find it with lookout if installed but I highly recommend android device manager. You'll find it in the play store.
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damn. I am assuming you weren't able to use a FIND MY PHONE type app either ? My T-Mobile protection plan comes with a premium account for Lookout mobile, which when it works is great, but if they take out the simcard and reset it, before you can locate it, its useless. Last time, i wasn't able to do it either, but that was cause like 2 hours before it got jacked I had just factory reset/wiped system, to install a test build of a ROM I've been working on (first ROM I've done that wasn't based of CM or AOSPA, building this one straight from stock AOSP source, just like the Nexus stock firmware is. And adding my own features instead of using others. Tho I did add Halo, cause i love that feature lol as well as app bar, which works in tandem if you set it up right. But enough OT lol) So yea, since I had just flashed that, and was test driving it, didn't have Device Manager or Lookout installed. This time, it just didn't work.
I am really sorry to hear that happened to you bro. I remember back when FIND MY PHONE apps were first becoming relevant, this dude here in Seattle was mugged and they took his iPhone 3G (think it was the 3GS actually) and he had the official iPhone one (which is through iCloud now, I have it for my iPad AIR, which OT again, is my first iOS device since my 4th Gen iPod touch, and I will never be an iPhone guy, but I am loving the iPad. I want that damn 12.1 Note Pro tho lol) and he was able to get the GPS data (which was all that it did back then, as well as Wipe, the Scream feature, and Lock, didn't have signal flare or Lock Cam, etc etc, like we do now) and he gave it to the SPD, and they were able to track it back to both suspects, retrieve the phone, all the money minus 12.59$ and the rest of the wallet contents as well as his jewelry. that was the incident that made the popularity of those apps take off, while also showing the need for such apps, and the need for better refinement of their functionality etc etc.
They need to find a way around people being able to shut it off. There has to be some type of feature that makes it so there is absolutely no way for them to take wipe the phone without A.) the password, which already exists as a feature B.) a special docking device or Computer USB cable that enables the Wipe feature (albeit, this could be bypassed via custom recovery I guess) and finally C.) bringing it to the phones carrier and proving ownership, etc etc. The simcard being removed should have nothing to do with it. But apparently removing that, and wiping the device negates the whole purpose of that feature. So what can you really do.
People are dumb, Steal a phone and within seconds you can wipe and remove simcard, and then the only thing the owner can do is report it and blacklist it, which even then can be gone around if you know how to use the proper JTAG device or if you plan on selling it, or using it, overseas. cause their blacklists obviously don't coincide with our's here in the US. I personally had a friend who legitimately bought an S4 for T-Mobile, and then the dude (this was through craigslist, another reason why swappa is better, so there is accountability at least and proof of purchase and authorized sale of said device) reported the device lost or stolen within minutes of the sale. So he gets the money, and a replacement phone and my buddy is screwed. But he found someone with a JTAG device that rewrote the IMEI (WHICH I do not condone, and is actually ILLEGAL, only mentioning it as part of this topic) and he is still using it on T-Mobile today.
How did you get a replacement? Was it from Google?
Sent from my NeXus 5
Just checked my email, and found two things that made me even more upset about this. First one was a notification of a PM here on XDA from the Dev's of Nameless ROM, responding to my request to be a Mainter for the Nexus 5 version of their ROM. which I've been wanting to do for awhile now, to help learn more about Development while also giving back to the community in whatever way I can until I finish my own ROM and App.
Second, was an Email from someone who must of seen my request on Google+, about getting an Invite to the new Aviate Launcher beta, which I've been intrigued by for quite sometime, and finally got my invite code. No phone to use it on. I have an S3 from my Verizon days, that I keep for backup, but pointless sine I dont have verizon now, and for the life of me can't find the battery for haha. Hopefully my friend can find the T-Mobile version of the S3 he has, and said I could use til my replacement got back .I always liked the S3, and my S4,. and especially my Note 3 (want that damn 12.1 Note Pro...already said thta tho haha) the only thing I liked better was the Nexus 5. The G2 would be my 2nd fave if it wasn't for that damn UI of theirs which is a obvious kang of TouchWiz, but dont wrong, and bloated up even more so. Which TouchWiz is already pretty damn heavy and resource hungry, well from time with the G2 as secondary device before giving it to one of my bandmates, I can tell you, it is bogged down soooooo much. That UI is holding that device back from being an top 5 android phone. But that camera is one of the best. Which reminds me of how much I want the 1020 or 1520 to come out on T-Mobile, cause I want that camera and I also want to try out a WP, but all the ones on T-Mobile are crap. Anyways......Stupid theives, ruinned my day. I wanna try AVIATE so bad.
Guess I can give invites now, so if anyone wants one , post here and let me know and your wish shall be granted......if you post a video of you doing a double backflip and saying my username 3 times fast.....haha, that would make this day better for me too
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Just checked my email, and found two things that made me even more upset about this. First one was a notification of a PM here on XDA from the Dev's of Nameless ROM, responding to my request to be a Mainter for the Nexus 5 version of their ROM. which I've been wanting to do for awhile now, to help learn more about Development while also giving back to the community in whatever way I can until I finish my own ROM and App.
Second, was an Email from someone who must of seen my request on Google+, about getting an Invite to the new Aviate Launcher beta, which I've been intrigued by for quite sometime, and finally got my invite code. No phone to use it on. I have an S3 from my Verizon days, that I keep for backup, but pointless sine I dont have verizon now, and for the life of me can't find the battery for haha. Hopefully my friend can find the T-Mobile version of the S3 he has, and said I could use til my replacement got back .I always liked the S3, and my S4,. and especially my Note 3 (want that damn 12.1 Note Pro...already said thta tho haha) the only thing I liked better was the Nexus 5. The G2 would be my 2nd fave if it wasn't for that damn UI of theirs which is a obvious kang of TouchWiz, but dont wrong, and bloated up even more so. Which TouchWiz is already pretty damn heavy and resource hungry, well from time with the G2 as secondary device before giving it to one of my bandmates, I can tell you, it is bogged down soooooo much. That UI is holding that device back from being an top 5 android phone. But that camera is one of the best. Which reminds me of how much I want the 1020 or 1520 to come out on T-Mobile, cause I want that camera and I also want to try out a WP, but all the ones on T-Mobile are crap. Anyways......Stupid theives, ruinned my day. I wanna try AVIATE so bad.
Guess I can give invites now, so if anyone wants one , post here and let me know and your wish shall be granted......if you post a video of you doing a double backflip and saying my username 3 times fast.....haha, that would make this day better for me too
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I would love an invite. Sorry bout your phone.
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My damn GF left it sitting at the table in McDonalds.
does this count as stolen? well i know what i would do (hand it back) but this was just a unlucky situation.... and i hope you learned your lesson here bro...
GL
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damn. I am assuming you weren't able to use a FIND MY PHONE type app either ? My T-Mobile protection plan comes with a premium account for Lookout mobile, which when it works is great, but if they take out the simcard and reset it, before you can locate it, its useless. Last time, i wasn't able to do it either, but that was cause like 2 hours before it got jacked I had just factory reset/wiped system, to install a test build of a ROM I've been working on (first ROM I've done that wasn't based of CM or AOSPA, building this one straight from stock AOSP source, just like the Nexus stock firmware is. And adding my own features instead of using others. Tho I did add Halo, cause i love that feature lol as well as app bar, which works in tandem if you set it up right. But enough OT lol) So yea, since I had just flashed that, and was test driving it, didn't have Device Manager or Lookout installed. This time, it just didn't work.
I am really sorry to hear that happened to you bro. I remember back when FIND MY PHONE apps were first becoming relevant, this dude here in Seattle was mugged and they took his iPhone 3G (think it was the 3GS actually) and he had the official iPhone one (which is through iCloud now, I have it for my iPad AIR, which OT again, is my first iOS device since my 4th Gen iPod touch, and I will never be an iPhone guy, but I am loving the iPad. I want that damn 12.1 Note Pro tho lol) and he was able to get the GPS data (which was all that it did back then, as well as Wipe, the Scream feature, and Lock, didn't have signal flare or Lock Cam, etc etc, like we do now) and he gave it to the SPD, and they were able to track it back to both suspects, retrieve the phone, all the money minus 12.59$ and the rest of the wallet contents as well as his jewelry. that was the incident that made the popularity of those apps take off, while also showing the need for such apps, and the need for better refinement of their functionality etc etc.
They need to find a way around people being able to shut it off. There has to be some type of feature that makes it so there is absolutely no way for them to take wipe the phone without A.) the password, which already exists as a feature B.) a special docking device or Computer USB cable that enables the Wipe feature (albeit, this could be bypassed via custom recovery I guess) and finally C.) bringing it to the phones carrier and proving ownership, etc etc. The simcard being removed should have nothing to do with it. But apparently removing that, and wiping the device negates the whole purpose of that feature. So what can you really do.
People are dumb, Steal a phone and within seconds you can wipe and remove simcard, and then the only thing the owner can do is report it and blacklist it, which even then can be gone around if you know how to use the proper JTAG device or if you plan on selling it, or using it, overseas. cause their blacklists obviously don't coincide with our's here in the US. I personally had a friend who legitimately bought an S4 for T-Mobile, and then the dude (this was through craigslist, another reason why swappa is better, so there is accountability at least and proof of purchase and authorized sale of said device) reported the device lost or stolen within minutes of the sale. So he gets the money, and a replacement phone and my buddy is screwed. But he found someone with a JTAG device that rewrote the IMEI (WHICH I do not condone, and is actually ILLEGAL, only mentioning it as part of this topic) and he is still using it on T-Mobile today.
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When I got mugged I wasn't using any of the find my phone apps. I feel like I use them now out of paranoia but I don't feel 100% secure. Is it the best best? I think so. The device manager is good when couples with kit Kat. The best iv seen so far. As you can imagine, when I picked up my n5 I simulated the device being stollen. I had my girlfriend take the phone for a walk. She powered it off. Then on. It gave me her location for both moments and I had the option to wipe. Will I find my phone? Probably not but its better than being paranoid. I wish there was a way to activate tracking regardless of phone on or off or reset. It should be a system setting that locks the feature in once you report it lost or stolen. If the NSA can do it. Why can't we?
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helstonrampersad said:
How did you get a replacement? Was it from Google?
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No, I go through T-mobile for service, but my friend had an upgrade he wasn't going to use, cause he has the HTC One Max that he bought outright and doesn't wanna change anytime soon (plus he owed me money) so he let me use it, and I got the White Nexus 5 for 49.99$ so technically I still have a claim (still good for a lil over 30 days, they give you 60days to pay teh deductible once the claim is approved) that I can use to get one. That deductible is 90$ (when I lost my Note 3, OMG they wanted like 175$) so I can get two Nexus 5's. So this time, I believe I will pay both deductibles when i get paid next week, then sell both, buy a 32GB white one from Google, and then use the rest too pay that months bill on T-mobile !
Then if it happens again, I am gonna be pissed, cause I don't think I will be able to file another claim. Don't even know if sprint or T-mobile or AT&T etc etc, offer insurance if you buy the phone from Google instead of them. Which is a good question, if anyone happens to know the answer to it, please let me know. Or else I will google it, and I don't wanna google it, cause I am in the midst of a 40day 40day, vow of no-googlesearch. Not joking. I've always been pretty good at comprehension, reading and vocabulary skills (music being my main skill, since it was a skill my parents and family nurtured from a young age. Played my first guitar solo back when the guitar was still taller then me lol) And my parents always made me look things up when i asked what a word meant extra, but now google has made us, especially me, lazy. So i wanna prove that I can still function intelligently without using Google to answer unknown questions, by instead researching by talking to people experience in whatever subject etc etc. This may sound so dumb to many of you, but I think it's a good idea to do at least once after being the first generation raised on the Internet (I am 27 and I've had an email since I was 10yrs old lol)
OT - (not that this whole thing has not become OT, I am just so damn bored without my phone right now, homealone for the night, GF at work, and no band pratice, this is normally phone mod and/or dev time, but I need my phone for that, tho i could do some work on my App without it, but that makes me sad right now, cause i want my phone haha)......ANYWAYS - I've yet to meet a single other musician, let alone, a Guitarist, on this Site and I've been a member since 2011. If anyone who see's this is a Musician, especially a Guitarist and Producer/Engineer (just graduated Music School, Music Production/Audio Engineering & Music Theory/General Music) say wats up in here, and let me know I am not the only Musician who's a closet tech/android/computer geek lol
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.ANYWAYS - I've yet to meet a single other musician, let alone, a Guitarist, on this Site and I've been a member since 2011. If anyone who see's this is a Musician, especially a Guitarist and Producer/Engineer (just graduated Music School, Music Production/Audio Engineering & Music Theory/General Music) say wats up in here, and let me know I am not the only Musician who's a closet tech/android/computer geek lol
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I'm also a musician/guitarist/vocalist/percussionist/pianist that dabbles in sound engineering. I'm not going to school for that sort of thing, but it's still a huge chunk of my life, and I also spend a lot of time messing around with Android.
You know what I just realized? Girlfriends and nexus devices don't mix. My girlfriend stepped on my N7 and shattered the digitizer. LCD is still good tho. This was about a month ago. I'll replace it myself. Just too busy with my N5
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Device Manager comes enabled by default. You should be able to log into your google account and find the location or lock or wipe the phone from your pc. Just google Device Manager
Look into the app called Cerberus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
Flash the hidden version from the following link via a custom recovery:
https://www.cerberusapp.com/download.php
It'll survive a factory reset, email you the info from any unauthorized SIM card someone puts into it (including the phone number, service provider, & subscriber ID), and as long as the phone has service you can still control it (lock it with a pin, ...) through text messages (no internet connection required).
Also, the paid license is valid for up to 4 (maybe 5) devices. I have it installed on my girlfriend's, brother's, mother's, and my phone. As far as those apps go, it's the best I've found.
Better luck in the future
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Don't mean to sound rude, and it's harsh it went missing, but why did you 1. Leave your phone on the table in a public space, and 2. rely on your girlfriend to pick it up? My phone is in my pocket unless it's in my hand or on my work desk. I would never leave it in the open for anyone to take. Maybe I'm just less trusting of those around me but at least you're insurance covered things to an extent. Lesson learnt (I hope)
Same thought here, why would you ever leave your device on the table ? I´m not paranoid, I use a antitheft app just in case I somehow manage to lose my device.
What also seems to help against muggers or similar bad dudes is a rather "ugly" or very plain and simple looking case. A Spigen Slim Armor "smooth black" is a nice case but it also makes your phone look from far away as being a cheap, generic smartphone
EddyOS said:
Don't mean to sound rude, and it's harsh it went missing, but why did you 1. Leave your phone on the table in a public space, and 2. rely on your girlfriend to pick it up? My phone is in my pocket unless it's in my hand or on my work desk. I would never leave it in the open for anyone to take. Maybe I'm just less trusting of those around me but at least you're insurance covered things to an extent. Lesson learnt (I hope)
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[RECENTLY OVERHEARD CONVERSATION IN TIMES SQUARE]
A: Can I borrow your phone?
B: Where's yours?
A: I left it on the table in Starbucks for one second, turned around, and it was gone.
B: Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
A: I only took two steps away!
B: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
A: Shut up!
B: HAHAHA! You freakin' idiot! HAHAHA!
@Silicon Knight - just out of curiosity, did you contact the McD management to see if their cameras picked up anything? If they are unwilling to discuss, file a police report (if you haven't already done so), and get them to review their recordings
I feel like the average person stealing a phone would not know about android device manager and you could track it.
Ps: This isn't Q&A, Help, and troubleshooting problem.
I am accustomed to using and working within the generic android environment. I generally like it. I am pretty much exclusively a Samsung guy but I just recently got my wife a G3. I have read all the things about how I can make my phone lightning quick without all the bloatware and I can be entitled to all the event driven programming that stock android allows me but I have to say, I 90% like what I get out of the box. Sure, there are little annoyances that come up but mostly what I want to gain is the 10%. I don't want to reinvent the wheel and put in a new launcher and then have to get accustomed to a whole new way of doing things. Or worse, my camera might not work as well etc.
I am mostly sold. I don't care about voided warranties. I am going to drop $800 on a Note 4 in the coming weeks when it finally rolls out and frankly I would like to really access the power of that processor and ram (whether it is 3 or 4 gigs - only Samsung knows right now). A big part of my buying the phone is the compatibility with the SPen. I am a business man so it would negate me buying it, to root it and then see the SPen go bye bye. In short, this phone is to be a simple tool for my business but I am afraid of what I am about to get.
Let me go back a bit. Last week, I bought my wife a G3. Another top of the line phone. I bought it and am considering the note 4 for the same reason, they can do split screens. I thought I might be able to do limitedly with the phone on the go what I do with my laptop, drag and drop from email to email, files. The note 4 is going to be a powerful phone but who knows if we are there yet. Regardless, from these forums and around the net, it seem the technology is there. So what is there to do? I like the bulk of Samsung's programming but it really angered me when I started toying with the LG G3 and I discovered that I could not open all apps in their duel mode. I mean what the H E double hockeysticks! How does LG know what I would find valuable to have open at once?
So, I am committed to the Note 4 because I know I will get top of the line. I am assuming that I am going to be restricted from using the phone like I want, like the LG and will be faced with: to root or not to root. What I am saying is, can I root the phone and still keep all the stuff I like? yes I know one of you nifty busy-bodies have not even gotten your hands on the phone yet to discover how to mess with it and get by knoks etc but do you feel my pain and understand my quandary?
It is not that I am afraid to root. I am adventurous at heart but I need to make money. I am a business man. I don't make money by the hour but by the opportunity. When I see something that can help me be productive, I try to implement it into my way of doing things. I like tinkering like you guys. I appreciate you but I only have limit time to do these things, otherwise they become distractions. So I don't have hours to figure out why my main camera is now only taking selfies on the face of the phone instead or why the SPen doesn't work. I want what I want but the move needs to make sense to me.
So the basic question is: if I go down this path (with any phone) can I root and still have touchwiz experience, for instance just so I can mess with the phone ever so slightly? A side question would be - am I going to find many disadvantages for the right of having full control of my phone such as having to update the phone or having bugs? I guess, the simple short question is: Do the challenges outweigh the benefits?
I have currently an old S2 that is working. I am using a galaxy LTE awaiting, the note 4. But, I assume I am going to get pretty angry when I find that an $800+ phone won't what a hack can make it do. I just don't want to lose everything else for the sake of one entitlement. So, I can practice seeing what it is like doing these things with my S2 or even my recent LTE. I just have not seen anyone bring this up. People go on about the romance of blanking out a phone for total freedom but they don't tell me much about how close the new launchers are going to be to what I am used to.
Thanks, community for all that you develop. You are cool. I only wish I had countless hours to mess around with this stuff but money has to be made. Believe me, I am looking for any excuse to have a "lightning fast" phone or to do some funky things like you guys do, but give me the war stories. Tell me if I have to decide to compromise. Recommend a launcher maybe. Yes I know the Note can't even be developed yet but it will someday. Anyway, thanks.
I'm not sure you understand exactly what root does. Root gives you "root" level access, aka Superuser, aka Administrator access. Think of Android like a computer in a public library. Lots of things (settings, certain programs, certain directories mainly) are locked down and inaccessible by people who don't have the password or an admin account, because they don't want people messing around with them. Android is the same way. Many (most?) people think of smartphones as just that - phones. They don't think of it as a computer, even though that's exactly what it is, in every aspect of the word. Without restrictions, it would be very, very easy for the average user to completely screw up their phone.
And that is why Android comes with these restrictions (which carriers exploit to install unremovable apps). Rooting your phone removes many of these restrictions, which is also why rooting typically voids your warranty. You might want to root to get rid of useless bloatware like NFL Mobile or Verizon Navigation or Samsung's browser because you only use Chrome. But it's just as easy to (accidentally or stupidly) delete a core Android program, and now your phone is stuck in a crash loop and you've got a $700 battery powered paper weight.
That said, root gives you Superuser access. And that's it. Root doesn't change anything, for better or worse.
It's what you do with that access that matters. Freezing/deleting bloatware that would otherwise be constantly running in the background can improve your phone's performance. You can install the Xposed framework to clear up your notification panel and status bar, add functionality to your buttons, and port features from other brands to work on yours. Tasker is a very powerful (and very confusing) app that you can use to make your phone do things automatically depending on where you are, when it is, etc. You can block ads within games and browsers. You can do back-ups of your apps and data and share them between devices, or when moving from and old phone to a new one. With root sometimes you can bypass restrictions imposed by the carrier because they want to milk you for more money (like wifi hotspot).
I'm also not certain you understand what a launcher is. The launcher is merely the interface. Homescreens, app drawer, dock, icons, etc. I honestly don't know what a 3rd party launcher like Nova, Apex, or Go does to S-Pen functionality on the Note series. But it's merely a different interface, which can be disabled or uninstalled without issue.
What you might be thinking of is the ROM itself. ROM is a bit of a misnomer (meaning Read Only Memory, like a CD_ROM or DVD-ROM), but in the Android world, the ROM is what we have taken to call the operating system. For example, a TouchWiz ROM is heavily modified, and very different than the ROM of a Nexus, which is 100% "stock" Android. Then you have custom ROMs like Cyanogenmod. Installing a different ROM on your Note 4 will absolutely kill your S-Pen functionality, unless it's based on the stock N4 ROM (for example, stock, but debloated, streamlined, and tweaked a bit) and retains those features that Samsung built into it.
With a launcher you can make one phone's homescreen and app drawer look like another's. But when you go into the settings, they'll look different, because that's the ROM, not the launcher you're looking at.
One thing to nota bene is that Samsung has become increasingly restrictive about root and unlocked bootloaders. An unlocked bootloader is required to flash a different ROM (although running different ROMs in Safestrap is usually still possible). Samsung flagships from AT&T and Verizon are notoriously restricted. Google "towelroot" to find out just how restrictive they're getting. Of the "big 4" US carriers, T-Mobile is undoubtedly the least restrictive. With AT&T and T-Mo you also have the option to buy an "unlocked" device, but you won't get the pay-over-time benefits of a subsidy or payment plan. "Unlocked" refers to carrier compatibility, not the bootloader (although carrier unlocked phones are typically easier to unlock the bootloader). But if you subsidize a phone from VZW or AT&T, particularly one from the Samsung Note or Galaxy S line, it's entirely possible that root might never be achieved, or might take a long time. We're talking about rooting a phone that isn't even out yet, and we have no idea what kind of "security" measures are in store.
Root is a powerful tool, but the most powerful tool for your phone other than root is knowledge. Read, read, read, read, ask some questions, and read and read. Find some "for dummies" guides and read those. Watch some youtube videos. The problem with XDA, if there is one, is that stuff like this doesn't have a learning "curve" so much as a learning "sheer cliff made of buttered ice". Lots of acronyms, jargon, technical terms, and other gibberish. Grab some coffee or Red Bull, and start learning.