Hi I just want to ask is it necessary to install a anti-virus on the android phone? do our android really get a virus? just asking for some opinion thanks in advance
Have yet to see a thread "help I have a virus" if that means anything.
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
fatbas202 said:
I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
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Punxx said:
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
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I am not trying to be rude but this logic resembles:
Everyday I throw $1.50 in quarters in my front lawn. It keeps the pink elephants from trampling down all my grass. I know it works because I have not had a pink elephant problem yet! ...I haven't actually seen them, but I know they are out there...
Punxx said:
There is a virus circulating around the Chinese Market right now and another exploit I've heard of following some people on Twitter. So it's definitely possible to get a virus on our devices.
Put it this way, is it better to wait and not get any antivirus and have the potential of getting virus later, or protect yourself now and cut if off at the pass for when they become more prevalent?
I use Lookout, it works great and doesn't kill my battery or do anything bad to my phone from what I can tell. It's all up to you though.
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fatbas202 said:
I see no need whatsoever do do this. If you are not running a custom ROM, then you probably should be. And if you are willing to flash a ROM, then you have a sure way of removing viruses if you do something stupid enough to get one.
There are probably a lot more exploits for Andorid than viruses (like buffer overflows via SMS, etc.) and an antivirus will not protect you from that. What it will do is slow down your device, use more data, and reduce your battery life.
When it comes to viruses on your phone, take the Dwight K. Schrute approach: Think to yourself, "Would an idiot do this?". If the answer is yes, do not do that thing. This approach should be way better than antivirus.
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Shovelhead84 said:
I am not trying to be rude but this logic resembles:
Everyday I throw $1.50 in quarters in my front lawn. It keeps the pink elephants from trampling down all my grass. I know it works because I have not had a pink elephant problem yet! ...I haven't actually seen them, but I know they are out there...
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@Shovelhead84 - LOL
Honestly, I think both responses use bad logic. In the end it comes down to your comfort level. If you are comfortable using your phone with no A/V software and know how to rebuild/reset if you get a virus, then go for it. If the thought of using any device with an Operation System without A/V makes you squeamish, then put A/V on it.
Personally, I would never run a Windows Desktop OS without A/V and I have never installed A/V on any Linux device I have used (I don't see any need for the overhead when virus writers are not attacking the Linux kernel at this time). But that is my personal preference and does not make it right for anyone else.
I personally don't use any, I use Lookout, but only for the lost device protection, If I'm sideloading anything, I havea pretty good idea of what it is, and like another poster said, I'm sure if something did happen, it's nothing a fresh Odin flash couldn't help. If you don't use one, I wouldn't stress yourself out about it, I think you'd have to go out of your way to find a virus right now.
there are a couple good anti-virus apps out there that are free. Lookout and Dr Web... I've used both - didnt seem to affect the phone much. As i've learned with any computer, its always better to have the anti-virus and not need it, than it is to get a nasty virus and WISH you had it.... back in 2003 I got a virus on my pc (was in the middle of playing Halo) that crashed to my desktop and within about 10 mins half my hdd was gone! (corrupted beyond repair)
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I am looking to buy a used captivate soon and I had an alarming thought..
To make purchases from google market you do have to enter credit card info..
So what if someone bought the phone, installed monitoring software on the phone, turned around and sold it.. They could break even on cost.. *AND* if they were lucky when someone else went to use the phone.. they would get the cred card info of that person..
And on ebay/craigslist... its not like you could pin it back to the person very easily..
Assuming I bought a phone and master reset it would that fix any possibly problems? I know in windows you reinstalling the OS will usually wipe just about anything out..
However, I know that if you have root.. on a phone you can do far more.. I don't know if having root would be enough to put something on the phone that could not be gotten rid of with a simple master reset.
I am sorry if this sounds paranoid.. But, I am a comp sci major.. Software security isn't my specialty.. but, I am hoping to dev for phones soon and think this is a pretty fair question, since the information is handled differently in linux (and I suppose now android) than it would be on a comp running windows xp for example..
I am asking because i know even after a master reset some things linger on most phones... so if someone installed a keylogger of some sort.. would it be able to survive a master reset?
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Lol... Let me put it this way.. I once read an article hear with some one talking about how he doesn't want "google knowing where he is" and "google reading his mail" ect ect ect.
And I understand privacy concerns.. but, he was well.. reaching the point of flat out goofy.
I am asking based on what I perceive to be a valid fear looking at it from a logical perspective.
If someone installed some sort of keylogger for the phone, would it be able to survive a master reset?
I mean I know that whats on your sim card is not usually deleted.. and I forget if this phone has dedicated or removable memory or some combination of both..
However, assuming its a 16gb removable.. You could hypothetically install it to the flash memory.. If its not removable.. I am less certain how that dedicated storage is handled on phones. I know that you generally format a hard drive before installing an os.. or it gets partitioned off..
So if a logger was installed onto the dedicated/removeable memory would it be partitioned off and allowed to continue working?
If I didn't see valid cause for concern I wouldn't be here.. But, I'm sure the devs around here know more about this and can give a good answer!
If this is all coming to my mind... I'm sure some crazy cracker out there has already thought of and either created/working on implimenting it.
google will nevr read your mail. google is your friend!
if you have a virus on it or think you have, plug it in your computer and scan with av software.
i don't think that a virus could survive master reset.
and why are you worrying about this? ive bought second hand phones before and they have been ok.
try eBay.
You don't seem to have read my thing properly.
What I am trying to say is I have read an thread with a guy who was paranoid google was going to read his mail ect.
What I am saying is I'm worried about a second hand person creating a virus.
I could be wrong but, plugging the phone into a computer would do absolutely nothing as far as antivirus protection if I'm worried about protecting the phone.
The reason why is because anti virus protection only picks up virus's it is designed to pick up.
It is designed to pick up viruses that are a threat to computers.
I would imagine that computer anti virus software would worry about a different set of exploits than a linux based phone.
Making scanning with a computer completely useless.
yes, keylogger can survive hard reset. you have to reflash your phone completely to be sure. or don't provide your credit card number in any market
Hard reset and reflash official software. Everything will be like it just rolled out of the factory.
Pretty silly thing to ask really.
obviosuly if teh key logger was cooked into the rom then a master reset wont do sweet FA as it would simply be re-installed with the rom.
As mentioned your only way is flash the phone with a fresh rom.
I'm not talking about protection for the outside of the phone, but protection for the inside. I have this idea in my head for an awesome theme, which involves the MIUI ROM (which isn't here yet, I know) and a couple of more things.
But this means there are chances that I'm going to brick my Nexus S. I've searched a little bit on the internet, and I found out that you can either 'soft brick' or 'hard brick' your device. Soft bricking seems to happen the most, and is easily fixed. I don't know what hard bricking is, and if I should be worried that that's ever gonna happen to me.
Secondly, there are chances of getting a virus. I'm not saying there are chances of getting a virus when flashing a custom ROM, I just think there is a possibility that I'll get a virus. There are several anti-virus apps in the market. Will I have the assurance that I won't get a virus when I have an anti-virus app installed (there is never really an assurance, but let's say like 'avast!' on my computer)? And when a virus sneaks past, can I just recover everything, just like when I brick my phone (minus some data if I hadn't backed-up everything)?
My third question, just a little one: I really like the idea of 'App Protector' for my Email, SMS and some more stuff. But does App Protector allways work, even when there is some kind of widget involved, like in the MIUI lockscreen? So if I slide the SMS icon in the MIUI lockscreen, will it still ask for a pattern or password?
Thanks in advance!
Has anyone been able to restore Zune mode?
My HTC hd7 was being recognized as a windows phone before I installed dfrouter
But now I see it as a Schubert.
Can we not deploy apps in USB sync mode ?
I would like the creator of dfrouter to come forth and take the responsibility of the trouble their app has caused
We can run executables via zip archives, there is a warning but it can be suppressed
But not sure if the app actually runs.
Have you tried using the DFRouter app to switch between Router and Zune modes? The two options at the top are the ones that really matter, not the three at the bottom.
the problem is I have uninstalled the DFrouter app and now zune won't recognize it. The more important issue is I can't deploy apps. Using MS Applicant deployment tool ior wpconnect and visual studio.
"Error failed to connect to device.Ensure that the device is completely booted and is connected to the PC".
is there a way to be sure that the phone is indeed stuck in a non-zune mode?
There could be other reasons the Zune software isn't picking it up.
same thing
I can confirm that I also cannot sync with zune after running dfrouter and then uninstalling it thinking it would revert things. Now I can't install dfrouter again to fix the problem.
A hard reset from the settings, about page doesn't even fix the problem.
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I would like the creator of dfrouter to come forth and take the responsibility of the trouble their app has caused
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It´s your problem you ran the app and "bricked" the phone this way, not creator´s. You are the only one who to blame for your problem.
Did you try to flash a new ROM to your device? Not sure if it fixes your problem, but it's worth a try!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
Here are the ROM files for HTC HD7
Snake. said:
It´s your problem you ran the app and "bricked" the phone this way, not creator´s. You are the only one who to blame for your problem.
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i didn't ask for your cheap comments/blame and crtisim here. and it is the creators fault to write apps that have gotten 100s of people in this mess.
good thing MS has revoked the app and hopefully banned the creator.
Snake. said:
It´s your problem you ran the app and "bricked" the phone this way, not creator´s. You are the only one who to blame for your problem.
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Snake is right.
Every application, ROM etc on this site says use at your own risk.
Yes 99.9% of apps are very safe
Most people flash ROMs with no problem.
But what if the power goes out?
You may be left with a brick.
The creator of the app did not put out his app out to brick phones
He created the app to give us a option that MS did not
As soon as he was aware of the situation he updated his first post with THIS very issue.
In Detroit where I live if a crackhead breaks into your house and steals something we don't blame the creator of crack we blame the crackhead
Lately I have been doing alot of experiments with this program so people with the arrive can tether, if I [email protected] up my zune mode... well I knew the risks.
Let's talk about risks and faults later We're still searching for a solution here =/
jaygriggs said:
Snake is right.
Every application, ROM etc on this site says use at your own risk.
Yes 99.9% of apps are very safe
Most people flash ROMs with no problem.
But what if the power goes out?
You may be left with a brick.
The creator of the app did not put out his app out to brick phones
He created the app to give us a option that MS did not
As soon as he was aware of the situation he updated his first post with THIS very issue.
In Detroit where I live if a crackhead breaks into your house and steals something we don't blame the creator of crack we blame the crackhead
Lately I have been doing alot of experiments with this program so people with the arrive can tether, if I [email protected] up my zune mode... well I knew the risks.
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its personal responsibility we are taking about, its very easy to put the blame on the consumer/ roll **** down hill, taking persnal responsility of an app you write is another. as soon as they found out, they could have removed the link etc created a patch.
i'll give you another example, if you buy a type of cereal from walmart and you get terribly sick are you going to blame yourself for buying it? yes you can but the larger blame goes to the cereal manufacturer and/or even walmurt.
not to sound bad a lot of people are not going to trust that author with the apps after their experience with dfrouter.
But it was your decision to 1) buy it 2) eat it. You are the only one who to blame. When I release a product, let´s say bigger injection nozzles for a car, and I claim two things:
Increased performance
Shortened life of an engine
You can come to me whining about how I destroyed your engine, it was YOUR decision to put it in/ use this app/. You knew the risks, you ran the app, you bricked your phone. This app serves/served its purpose, period. Do NOT (and again), do NOT run homebrew if you fear that your device might be unusable someday, stay with the official way and you´ll be out of problems.
It´s the same thing everywhere, but clearly everywhere, PSP homebrew in its early days, etc etc etc. GL with claiming your warranty, because that´s the only way to fix this (as of now).
F&^k Google and Att&T and the other service providers. Turning high powered phones into junk so we use their crap without choice. This way they can A) Make poor programs because what are we going to do? Can't get them off. So they cut costs there. B) collect info on us. Search Google for the real info. Every place I've been, text, call pic over 5 years. Took me 3 hours to delete. ROOT ROOT ROOT. Don't use them. They are no better then Trovi, PC Mattatic and the other pain in the ass unwated programs. ROOT....Use TOR Browser. I now have to root and risk a brick because My phone runs like ****. UGH....Sorry.....Window's 10? Take care of Defender and it's awesome. Also learn coding.....so worth it. I pay this much for something I should be able to do what I want. I run linux on my desk top....doesn't viod the warranty.
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jon1102 said:
F&^k Google and Att&T and the other service providers. Turning high powered phones into junk so we use their crap without choice. This way they can A) Make poor programs because what are we going to do? Can't get them off. So they cut costs there. B) collect info on us. Search Google for the real info. Every place I've been, text, call pic over 5 years. Took me 3 hours to delete. ROOT ROOT ROOT. Don't use them. They are no better then Trovi, PC Mattatic and the other pain in the ass unwated programs. ROOT....Use TOR Browser. I now have to root and risk a brick because My phone runs like ****. UGH....Sorry.....Window's 10? Take care of Defender and it's awesome. Also learn coding.....so worth it. I pay this much for something I should be able to do what I want. I run linux on my desk top....doesn't viod the warranty.
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I'm too upset to correct my grammer so sorrry.
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Uh... Yeah!!! Guess we can't have it all. Honestly, what choices do you have??? Apple, Microsoft, and Google for smartphone (RIM is dead). It is no secret that they are controlling. Throw in the various manufacturers and carriers, you have a mess. If you don't like your choices, and you love Linux, then make a new smartphone OS.
There has been a lot of debate as to whether antivirus software is necessary on Android. Some like the extra protection, some say it is redundant due to Google's security services. Who here uses AV software, and which software do you use? Has it ever caught anything that Google's built in security did not?
Most of the time antivirus just completely gets in the way of things that are perfectly fine, I'm ok with not having any AV. I am also very responsible and cautious when it comes to downloading software from an unknown source, so that's another reason why I don't use AV.
SirSoviet said:
Most of the time antivirus just completely gets in the way of things that are perfectly fine, I'm ok with not having any AV. I am also very responsible and cautious when it comes to downloading software from an unknown source, so that's another reason why I don't use AV.
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Those are basically my practices as well. Just curious what everybody else does.
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I've never used antivirus in my 5 years as an android user. I download apps like it's crack, from all over the place, and I've never once had an issue, besides the occasional app with moderately intrusive ad software.
Viruses and malware on android stop just short of being a gigantic myth. You've got better odds of winning the lottery and being struck by lightning on the same day than ending up with malware on an android device, IMHO. You almost have to WANT to get malware lol
I used the same philosophy with windows for years before I switched to linux.....I NEVER used antivirus. I wasn't quite so lucky on that front, but I still wouldn't call malware anywhere near as bad as people make it seem on windows, either.
Remember one thing when you read articles about these big security software companies finding new exploits, worms, etc....the more scared you are, the easier time they have selling you software if you think you need it. I wouldn't even put it past some of them to actually hire a team of people to create malware to give the software a false purpose. It would definitely benefit them, as long as they don't get caught. Job security is job security, am I right?
I'm using android phone for 7 years. Till now I have used few antiviruses. But never got satisfied with them in my android phone like I'm satisfied using SafeBytes Anti-Virus in my PC. Surely android phone needs antivirus but I think no suitable antivirus is introduced yet.
There really is no need for an antivirus app. There are no "viruses"for Android. There are a few, very rare security issues, mostly at the kernel level. No antivirus will help with that. The only other thing is malware, stay away from side loading apps, and you should be good there. Apps do occasionally show up in the play store, mostly from China and with suspicious sounding names, but those are usually quickly removed from the store and your device automatically by Google.
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as Long as Uninstall button works i dont need Antivirus app
lol 10/10 votes
Good evening everyone, sorry for the question, but do you need an antivirus on your Android smartphone today? Can you use antivirus on your smartphone?