New or used - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Looks like I can find a decent deal on a mint OPO on Swappa. Is there a significant advantage/disadvantage to buy new/used?
Thanks xda-ians

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Looks like I can find a decent deal on a mint OPO on Swappa. Is there a significant advantage/disadvantage to buy new/used?
Thanks xda-ians
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The advantages to buying a new device are fairly obvious; it's new, it's never been tampered with, you can be confident that there are no problems present that a previous owner might cause. There's only one advantage to buying used; it's cheaper. There are many potential disadvantages; you never know what's wrong with the thing until you've already paid for it.

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Kaiser For Sale!!!

just got my Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) less than a month ago. works great, it's just not for me. my Krzr just works better for me and i'm much more comfortable with it. i live in the Bay Area in CA and would love to sell it to a fellow ROM flasher before i go to e-bay. i can provide pics if need be but i honestly barely used it. it maybe has 90 mins of talk time on it and 20 mins of internet usage before i decided it wasn't for me. i flashed back to the Original AT&T ROM and reverted to original Radio and SPL so it's back to OUT-OF-BOX stock. have the Original CD and of course manuals and USB cable. buyer pays for shipping and i will ship same day of sale if possible.
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sorry if this post does not belong here but as stated above, i can EASILY sell on e-bay so i figured i'd give first crack to you guys/gals.
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also just an FYI, no SIM card included. you need your own.
PM me for questions, etc.
$200
Give me you PayPal address or how you'd like me to pay you.
whats the asking price
i wanna know did u add any apps to the phone if so what r they cause i also have the tilt but converted for t mobile and i love it and if i but how soon can i get it am mario my number is 1 267 516 4422
djhitcity, i would edit my post and remove my phone number if i were you
no apps added. i messed around with a few ROMS and apps but flashed it to stock to sell. as for $200...search e-bay and see how much even a used Tilt is going for...sorry bro give me a FAIR offer...
xhellionx said:
no apps added. i messed around with a few ROMS and apps but flashed it to stock to sell. as for $200...search e-bay and see how much even a used Tilt is going for...sorry bro give me a FAIR offer...
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I can buy the Tilt, brand new, with no contract for $285 via my business account. I thought my offer to you was fair, sorry.
The Tilt has no front camera...
Kaisers seem to be less troublesome for flashing etc from what I've seen also...
grizzley said:
I can buy the Tilt, brand new, with no contract for $285 via my business account. I thought my offer to you was fair, sorry.
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no worries dude. i understand. i can sell this phone for damn near $400 on e-bay though, just trying to get a fair price on here from someone i know knows the potential of these. here are a few e-bay examples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-slightly-u...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/at-t-TILT-with-...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-Tilt-HTC-8...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/USED-CELL-PHONE...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
xhellionx said:
no worries dude. i understand. i can sell this phone for damn near $400 on e-bay though, just trying to get a fair price on here from someone i know knows the potential of these. here are a few e-bay examples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-slightly-u...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/at-t-TILT-with-...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-Tilt-HTC-8...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/USED-CELL-PHONE...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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LOL @ the guy selling a broken LCD Tilt for the price that new and slightly used devices are going for.
jon_k said:
LOL @ the guy selling a broken LCD Tilt for the price that new and slightly used devices are going for.
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not sure why it's "lol." proves the value of these badboys. knowing you can sell yours for $200+ even when it is BROKEN is pretty reassuring.
I'm pretty sure that jon_k is LOL'ing at the seller of the broken Tilt, not at you.
$400 seems like a pretty fair price for a almost new Kaiser/TyTN2.
ouminan said:
I'm pretty sure that jon_k is LOL'ing at the seller of the broken Tilt, not at you.
$400 seems like a pretty fair price for a almost new Kaiser/TyTN2.
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i agree about the price...and i'm not even expecting the full $400. and i wasn't lol'ing at jon_k either, sorry for the confusion.

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry
If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.
Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.
Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.
Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.
Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller
I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...
To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose
matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!
SOLD now, thanks.

High resale price - why?

I just observed used Nexus 5 being sold for about $35 less than new within countries which have plenty of stock. Is this the "one born every minute" or something else?
example of used $350
and example of new $385
With OnePlus out in a few weeks for $349 plus unknown on tax and postage, and a few other low-priced unlocked handsets out there, I'm puzzled why Nexus 5 is holding its used price, and its coming under attack on its new price.
Because it's a great phone. Oneplus one may be too big for some. Plus it's a true developers phone. No one knows what the oneplus one sources / blobs for drivers will be like...
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Because it's a great phone.
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I agreed enough I just bought one.:highfive:
Oneplus one may be too big for some.
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I've gone down the route of using a Nexus 7 when i want bigger screen which I carry differently to my phone as for fitting in pocket and hand.
Plus it's a true developers phone. No one knows what the oneplus one sources / blobs for drivers will be like...
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I avoid devices for a couple of months to let bugs discovered and resolved.
But that wasn't my question, i don't understand why someone would buy used for 90% of new? It's not like stock is hard to get new.
nigelhealy said:
I agreed enough I just bought one.:highfive:
I've gone down the route of using a Nexus 7 when i want bigger screen which I carry differently to my phone as for fitting in pocket and hand.
I avoid devices for a couple of months to let bugs discovered and resolved.
But that wasn't my question, i don't understand why someone would buy used for 90% of new? It's not like stock is hard to get new.
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its new price is fairly cheap, and its used price is competitive with other phones because its as good as or better than the other phones.
simms22 said:
its new price is fairly cheap, and its used price is competitive with other phones because its as good as or better than the other phones.
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Right but why would someone buy used for 90% new when new is immediately available? I'm missing something here or is it just dumbness of buyer?
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Right but why would someone buy used for 90% new when new is immediately available? I'm missing something here or is it just dumbness of buyer?
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most people arent geniuses. ok, most might even be an understatement
nigelhealy said:
Right but why would someone buy used for 90% new when new is immediately available? I'm missing something here or is it just dumbness of buyer?
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90% is cheaper than 100%. Not everyone is as fortunate as you to be able to pay 100%
"but it's only $35"
Someone could feed themselves for a week on that. Don't make the mistake of confusing being frugal with being dumb, or that everyone is the same as you
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rootSU said:
90% is cheaper than 100%. Not everyone is as fortunate as you to be able to pay 100%
"but it's only $35"
Someone could feed themselves for a week on that. Don't make the mistake of confusing being frugal with being dumb, or that everyone is the same as you
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If they're starving they can do with a cheaper Nexus 4 for months.
Warranty is part of frugality, if my new N5 breaks I got some postage costs probably, but I'm less exposed financially than I am with used.
Well luckily for them, it's not your decision what they do with their money
Some people don't care about warranty. Some people know how to use warranty. It's not a problem for them, it's not a problem for you so don't worry yourself about people being "dumb". If you're asking "why isn't everyone like me?", well that's a philosophical question, probably better angled towards facebook
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Because the phone is worth a lot more than $350 to most people. Similar phones cost $700 and the Oneplus isn't even being sold really.
Also countries that don't have the Play Store devices, their only choice is to buy them second hand and they are willing to pay as much as the retail cost.
One word answer: demand.
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Because the phone is worth a lot more than $350 to most people. Similar phones cost $700 and the Oneplus isn't even being sold really.
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I agree plus we don't know the potential scare story inside the OnePlus for at least month, it needs bulk ownership first from those who have another device already as their main phone.
Also countries that don't have the Play Store devices, their only choice is to buy them second hand and they are willing to pay as much as the retail cost.
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Yep, that's a reason in some countries, not sure of the reason within USA.
One word answer: demand.
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Hmm, there's something else going on, it doesn't add up fully.
nigelhealy said:
I agree plus we don't know the potential scare story inside the OnePlus for at least month, it needs bulk ownership first from those who have another device already as their main phone.
Yep, that's a reason in some countries, not sure of the reason within USA.
Hmm, there's something else going on, it doesn't add up fully.
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Those living in other countries buy our used phones. $350 for a used N5 is still half the price they would pay for a new phone in their country.
Anyone living in North America can buy the phone for $350 new and have no incentive to buy it used for that price.
bblzd said:
Those living in other countries buy our used phones. $350 for a used N5 is still half the price they would pay for a new phone in their country.
Anyone living in North America can buy the phone for $350 new and have no incentive to buy it used for that price.
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I'm well aware of that axis, selling from inside to USA to outside, doesn't explain buying within USA.
I'm selling my N4 in my next overseas trip next month :angel:
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I'm well aware of that axis, selling from inside to USA to outside, doesn't explain buying within USA.
I'm selling my N4 in my next overseas trip next month :angel:
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What makes you think people in the US are buying them used for more than they cost new? I would just assume they are all out of seas, but there is no real way of telling. Or is there?
If they are, they must not realize they can buy it new for the same price from Google. Or perhaps they are attempting a scam of some sort.
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What makes you think people in the US are buying them used for more than they cost new? I would just assume they are all out of seas, but there is no real way of telling. Or is there?
If they are, they must not realize they can buy it new for the same price from Google. Or perhaps they are attempting a scam of some sort.
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The example I gave, don't know for sure who bought but a "I will buy it" message from someone saying in they are USA, and this after I had pointed out 10% more gets new offer. I'm just puzzled, doesn't make sense.
Oh well.
nigelhealy said:
The example I gave, don't know for sure who bought but a "I will buy it" message from someone saying in they are USA, and this after I had pointed out 10% more gets new offer. I'm just puzzled, doesn't make sense.
Oh well.
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Strange for sure. Perhaps they saw extra value in a phone that has an unlocked bootloader and root access?
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Yep, that's a reason in some countries, not sure of the reason within USA.
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Even in the USA, sometimes it takes a while to get. And beyond that, it's still cheaper than any other alternatives, and some people prefer it to be cheaper. If it's 10% cheaper than retail, then that's still 10% they save.
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Hmm, there's something else going on, it doesn't add up fully.
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No, there's nothing else. People can sell them for that price because people are willing to buy it for that price. That's what the demand is.
Maybe its the rumors this is the last nexus.
Plus good luck to those waiting for the pluseOne it sounds good on paper but who knows if they will ever get to the point of mass production.
divinewisdom said:
Maybe its the rumors this is the last nexus.
Plus good luck to those waiting for the pluseOne it sounds good on paper but who knows if they will ever get to the point of mass production.
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Right...being that there may not be a Nexus 6, people are probably snapping these up now because they become a collector's item and a rare commodity.
Craigslist in my area has them going mint for 250 to 325
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Should I trade it? (TORN)

Im getting a OPO in and currently have the option of trading it brand new and sealed for a mint condition M8 and Im seriously considering it only cause of the issues I have heard about the OPO and all the negativity surrounding it. Would you guys think Id be wise in trading it for the M8? I really wanted to try this phone and like it but Im honestly just scared Im gonna get a bunch of issues and with OP customer service it seems like it would be a nightmare so I am super torn...
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Im getting a OPO in and currently have the option of trading it brand new and sealed for a mint condition M8 and Im seriously considering it only cause of the issues I have heard about the OPO and all the negativity surrounding it. Would you guys think Id be wise in trading it for the M8? I really wanted to try this phone and like it but Im honestly just scared Im gonna get a bunch of issues and with OP customer service it seems like it would be a nightmare so I am super torn...
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From a business standpoint it would be ideal to trade it for the M8 cause you can always sell the M8, pocket some of the cash and buy another OPO on Craigslist, eBay, Amazon etc.
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From a business standpoint it would be ideal to trade it for the M8 cause you can always sell the M8, pocket some of the cash and buy another OPO on Craigslist, eBay, Amazon etc.
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Very true and thats what Ive considered as well. I just worry about it being a Tmobile M8 and not having the EIP paid off.. Im still super torn cause I really want to play with the OPO especially for a while especially after getting the mythical device, but trading or selling now and waiting for changes in hardware or software could seem beneficial... You see why Im torn..lol
I guess you guys haven't been seeing how much OPOs go for on eBay. Let's just say they crush the m8 for pricing simply due to the exclusivity factor.
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There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.

[Q] Pre-Buy OnePlusOne quesitons

Thinking of purchasing a 64G OnePlusOne looking at reviews I see reference to Ghost Touches, lack of Warranty Support and material build quality lacking and even some with Yellowish Screens, I realize it is not a perfect world and there are to be some issues. Are these or any other major issues still prevalent? I like the price and the fact that is supports LTE (I use AT&T) currently I am running the Xiaomi MI3w (wife wants it) so figured I would go with the OnePlusOne. Any thoughts or comments please. Thank you
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Thinking of purchasing a 64G OnePlusOne looking at reviews I see reference to Ghost Touches, lack of Warranty Support and material build quality lacking and even some with Yellowish Screens, I realize it is not a perfect world and there are to be some issues. Are these or any other major issues still prevalent? I like the price and the fact that is supports LTE (I use AT&T) currently I am running the Xiaomi MI3w (wife wants it) so figured I would go with the OnePlusOne. Any thoughts or comments please. Thank you
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For me it's working fine and I didn't have any issues until now(a friend of mine has it too and for him it's the same). I would recomend it to everyone who plans to buy a new phone
I never had any issues, nor needed to contact for warantee service.
Buy it with PayPal, they'll give you an extra layer of refund protection if you happen to need warrantee work and they hang you out to dry.
Interesting did not realize this, I was thinking of purchasing directly from their site I will investigate this. Thank you
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I never had any issues, nor needed to contact for warantee service.
Buy it with PayPal, they'll give you an extra layer of refund protection if you happen to need warrantee work and they hang you out to dry.
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Interesting did not realize this, I was thinking of purchasing directly from their site I will investigate this. Thank you
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I think I used PayPal when ordering from their site.
You can only use PayPal to buy this phone...
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