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[Q] G Tablet Reboot with External HDD

Hello,
I thought I'd try and see if anyone else is having a similar issue.
I recently picked up a western digital 500GB passport external hard drive.
I formatted the hard drive to fat32 and double checked there are no extra partitions on the drive.
I'm mostly running CyanogenMod 7 with stock kernal lately and I've found when I hook up the hard drive, the tablet stutters a bit and then reboots.
On bootup it gets to the unlock screen, and when it starts scanning the sd card, the scanning message starts to cycle quickly and the tablet reboots again.
I restored to a backup of vegan5.1 to test on it. Same thing, on insert the tablet starts to hang and reboots.
On vegan though, on the next reboot, it would start normally, but for some reason its not mounting the drive. I search under usbdrive and don't see the folder and file i put on it for testing.
Anyone else having issues like this? Could the problem be its a 2.5" drive and no external power? I know when its hooked up, the light comes on and I can feel the drive spin up and vibrating, so not sure whats going on.
Thanks for the help

That (not enough power) sounds exactly like what's happening, I.e., the drive is drawing so much current from USB that it's either causing voltage to the gtab internals to drop to the point that it resets.
Jim

If this is the case, does anyone know what 2.5" external hdd's will work with the power requirements? (Someone who has one that does work?)

You could always get a powered USB hub, provided that isn't too inconvenient to carry around.'
Edit - Most 2.5" external drives that didn't require external bricks that I have seen have a 2 prong USB adapter. One for data and power and the other for more power only, since each port maxes out at around 500mW I think. Obviously we have only one port, so a powered hub or a jury rig.

lordgodgeneral said:
If this is the case, does anyone know what 2.5" external hdd's will work with the power requirements? (Someone who has one that does work?)
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I think others have gotten some drives to work, but not sure if they were 500gb. Also, even w a specific model, if the current draw or voltage are just 'on the edge's of working/not working, you may or may not get lucky.
BTW, have you tried w a thicker/heavier USB cable? Thinner/smaller gauge wire has more resistance, so voltage drop would be less over a shorter, heavier gauge cable than over a longer, smaller gauge cable. I have actually had drives not work, then switched to a thicker USB cable then it worked.
Jim

On a similar note, just yesterday I purchased an external USB DVD+/-RW for use with my netbook and tablet and it would not work without a powered hub between the tab and the DVD.

My 160GB ipod classic works fine, but my 1TB external drive that has an external power source doesn't work with any of the ROMs.

Does anybody know the maximum current supplied by the GTab's USB host port?
My 2.5" 500 GB External came with only a short (single) usb A to usb mini cable.
And it gets powered up fine from every laptop/netbook I have tried. They have always displayed 500 mA max current for each port.(when I look in Windows Device Manager, USB Root Hub).
Can the G-Tab supply up to 500 mA from it's USB host port??
I want to make sure it will work on a GTab before I buy it.

confirmed working external HD on g tablet
Using tnt lite 4.2.4, i personally have a 500gb formatted in fat32 working
model 500gb free agen go flex.
I've tried the latest WD passport SE, spun up and didnt detect in astro, ES file explore or stock file viewer
i have over 100gigs on this drive, about 80 of music and some Tosh.0 and everything pops up instantly and runs all the music fine out of MORTY music player... plays perfectly. Must have for your powerhouse. Hope this answers all the unanswered questions about external HD's on g tablet.
I have not tried stock rom or any other roms.
If you are looking for different external hard drives... make sure they are LOW POWER and NOT 3.0. 3.0 seems to require a driver to work. So its kinda hard to walk into a store and buy 2.0 only devices now.
Goodluck all.... i was using a patriot xt 64gb rage flash drive before this but 130 bucks is outrageous vs 75 i paid for the 500gb seagate.

[Q] Hard Drives Compatible With USB ?

Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY

well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure

As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.

from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs

mrevankyle said:
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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shaneledford said:
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.

Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.

AcIdC0R3 said:
I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

droidjens said:
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.

Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.

AlexTheStampede said:
So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.

i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.

This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.

r_nt said:
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...

sonami said:
why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.

Probably an easy question but, External Hard Disks?

Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance

Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?

assuming you have the keyboard dock too, not only for the USB port but for the extra battery capacity too.
but my WD 750gb works just fine!
I'd suggest MXPlayer 'cause the stock apps suck at decoding divx and other random container formats.

MartyHulskemper said:
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
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Cool thanks, just ordered a Toshiba Stor.e Alu 1TB (ebay special buy) which is bus powered, should both be here on the 2nd so will plug it into the dock to check.
I am heading down to Spain as I have an apartment there then going to see where the mood takes me, I have 3 months off work (well I say off work, taking the Infinity with an RDP program and my iPhone so I can tether the data) that way I can still work from where ever I am!
The infinity + dock seems the perfect device for me, can carry it easily, brilliant battery life and the full qwerty keyboard.

I plugged a 500GB bus powered USB drive into the dock USB port and it works great!

My 2TB Western Digital MyPassport works just fine. I did format it to get rid of the silly software, though. Don't really notice any powerdrain at all.

I've somewhat accomplished this before with a 2-usb hard drive. The main usb port for transferring I plugged into the infinity, and I plugged the port for power into a portable external battery. It was recognized as another SD card on my infinity. It worked flawlessly when transferring 800MB+ files.

tefal said:
Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
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Yup. It works. Mine is WD 1TB, connected via USB of the dock.

I've tried plugging in a standard usb drive (8gb thumb drive) in the usb port before but I can't browse to it in the stock file browser,"external storage"just shows as empty. Do you use a special app for that?
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Diogenes5 said:
I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Not only is an external a great solution, and works perfectly with the dock. It also has a really nice transfer rate. I was getting over 20mb/ps transferring from my 128gb flash drive to the micro sd. I have yet to spring for a 128 sdxc for the dock, but it's on my list.

So far I tried:
- External usb 2.0 disks
- Wireless mouse
- Linksys usb to ethernet
- Usb sticks
The dock's usb port seems to accept anything: even ethernet that allows me to even use my Infinity in the basement of my house (only wired connections there)
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Thanks for all the input folks, shall experiment with the dock and hdd when they arrive next week! Quite excited, like a big kid lol

Wow good info in this thread. I never even thought to try my external hd with my infinity dock. Will save a ton of time during file transfers.

I was surprised no one else had asked the question really

tefal said:
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I'm one of those people that traded in there TF201 for TF700... I know this was asked and answered early on in the TF201 threads, so I guess I just carried over from there and never bothered asking it again.

For those that care I also had success with a USB 3.0 External right away. It comes with a secondary USB to power cable but that has never actually needed to be used. The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ). So long story short USB 3.0 devices should also work but at 2.0 speeds.

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The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ).
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I did the same thing with my laptop, but shortly there after, I came to realize that I wasn't using it at all in complete favor of my TF201/700.... Now I've got a lappy with a pretty 120 ssd, and not being used. Coincidentally, I have more space than that in my tablet now...

right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?

tefal said:
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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I can test it tomorrow, but I would imagine the storage part of it would work. The issues you would run into is not being able to write to it, not being able to play a regular dvd movie as it would have to be mp4 formatted, and other minor issues that require software support.
We already know gamepads, keyboards, mice, flash drives, sd card readers, and other such work..

Samsung T3

The Samsung T3 external SSD is USB type C and is extremely fast. Using the stock cord that came with my phone I can make a twrp backup faster than to the internal storage.
Anyone else use one?

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The Samsung T3 external SSD is USB type C and is extremely fast. Using the stock cord that came with my phone I can make a twrp backup faster than to the internal storage.
Anyone else use one?
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That's because your phone has to read and write from flash at the same time. My OTG cable and USB 3.0 drive i've had for 2 years os still faster than backing up internally also. But I agree, the T3 would probably super tots.

The T3 is also very fast with the computer. Transfers 5gb in seconds

Link
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This is the one I have (250GB) they have up to a 2TB.
http://smile.amazon.com/Samsung-Por...TF8&qid=1457975173&sr=1-3&keywords=samsung+t3

Gytole said:
That's because your phone has to read and write from flash at the same time. My OTG cable and USB 3.0 drive i've had for 2 years os still faster than backing up internally also. But I agree, the T3 would probably super tots.
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I've tried hooking up my otg micro USB cable with flash drive. But 6p isn't reading. I figured it can't transmit data micro USB style. Is that why its not reading it? Have you tried that @Gytole?

dontbeweakvato said:
I've tried hooking up my otg micro USB cable with flash drive. But 6p isn't reading. I figured it can't transmit data micro USB style. Is that why its not reading it? Have you tried that @Gytole?
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Can't day I have trird it but i'm surprised it doesnt work! I have a coyple old otg cables laying around i'll see if I can conjur up something with my 6P anf see what happens. I just use my USB C to USB otg with my Silicon Power fladh drives. Works fantastatiddies

Gytole said:
Can't day I have trird it but i'm surprised it doesnt work! I have a coyple old otg cables laying around i'll see if I can conjur up something with my 6P anf see what happens. I just use my USB C to USB otg with my Silicon Power fladh drives. Works fantastatiddies
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I used micro usb otg cable, then micro USB to type c adapter, into 6p. Im saying I used a type c adapter and I think that's why it wasn't connecting to the flash drive but either way whatever happened it was not connecting and I tried numerous times I even tried apps like stickmount

Whether the nexus 6p works with exfat or NTFS formatted drive
Please confirm

3rd party app will mount exFAT-formatted T3
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I used micro usb otg cable, then micro USB to type c adapter, into 6p. Im saying I used a type c adapter and I think that's why it wasn't connecting to the flash drive but either way whatever happened it was not connecting and I tried numerous times I even tried apps like stickmount
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I just took another pass at getting my 6P to work with my exFAT-formatted T3, and this time around (Android 7.1.2) saw multiple paths to success.
Firstly, this time, when I plugged in my device, the system presented a notification, which led to a dialog asking if I wanted to "format the device for mobile data storage" – which would have meant reformatting to FAT32. Not what I wanted, but pretty cool that it was an option and I didn't have to go digging.
Secondly, a quick googling turned up a third-party app that will mount exFAT volumes. It's called Paragon exFAT/NTSF (I don't have permission to post urls here yet). I had to pay $5 for exFAT support, and it wanted Total Commander (free) to browse and operate on the files.

Can anyone recommend a VERY small micro USB flash drive?

See, my phone (Moto X 2013) supports OTG, but does not have a micro SD slot.
It only has 16 GB of storage which has proven to fall short for my needs because I love listening to music on the go, and I have a lot of music.
Another thing is that the USB port of my phone has some short of false contact after years of use, so sometimes a little wiggle can make it disconnect, this is the main reason why I want the USB to be so small, so that when I walk with it on my pocket, it doesn't get disconnected because I touched it 'wrong'.
So that's the question, do you know of any small micro USB device (without the need of a micro USB adapter because it adds length and volume)?
Something like the Sandisk Cruze but on a micro USB form, something that looks more like the USB plug of a wireless keyboard than a USB storage device. Thank you.
As a side note, I was thinking of those phone cases that serve as external batteries, well if there was something like that but that served as a micro SD to micro USB adapter, I could use that. The thing is that I have seen no such thing for sale and even if there was, I doubt I would be able to find one for my exact phone model from 7 years ago.