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MOTO X has a worse camera than ONE S

Since most of us chose the ONE S for the good performance in a smaller form factor, I figured the Moto X would be a natural upgrade from the ONE S (rather than the ONE Mini, which is not much of an upgrade, with its 4.3" screen and 1GB RAM). I was right - the Moto X is great for one-handed operation and is superior in every way except one: the camera.
Even with the negative press about the camera, this is surprising, because you expect technology to march on. What I didn't expect was how much better the HTC camera in the "obsolete" ONE S is versus Motorola's.
This is mostly evident in low-light shooting, such as indoors. The HTC is much better at capturing detail, and usually exposes correctly. The Motorola introduces washed-out colours and grain, even after the so-called "update" that was supposed to fix these issues.
The pluses of the Moto X are many: better reception and call quality, better loudspeaker, LTE, bigger screen with 720p, nicer curved design that sits naturally in your hand, and updated software (though if you flash a ROM the last one doesn't matter).
Not that the ONE S is bad in any of these areas (it's not), but Motorola is known for its radios and call quality, and they continue that tradition.
The ONE S is still a great phone and I was planning on keeping it for another few months at least, but there was a recent price drop for the Moto X. Because I use my phone for emails and browsing first, as a phone second, and as a camera a distant third, this is still an upgrade for me. I am disappointed that Motorola/Google dropped the ball with the camera though.
If you use the camera often, keep the ONE S!

ChrisAG said:
Since most of us chose the ONE S for the good performance in a smaller form factor, I figured the Moto X would be a natural upgrade from the ONE S (rather than the ONE Mini, which is not much of an upgrade, with its 4.3" screen and 1GB RAM). I was right - the Moto X is great for one-handed operation and is superior in every way except one: the camera.
Even with the negative press about the camera, this is surprising, because you expect technology to march on. What I didn't expect was how much better the HTC camera in the "obsolete" ONE S is versus Motorola's.
This is mostly evident in low-light shooting, such as indoors. The HTC is much better at capturing detail, and usually exposes correctly. The Motorola introduces washed-out colours and grain, even after the so-called "update" that was supposed to fix these issues.
The pluses of the Moto X are many: better reception and call quality, better loudspeaker, LTE, bigger screen with 720p, nicer curved design that sits naturally in your hand, and updated software (though if you flash a ROM the last one doesn't matter).
Not that the ONE S is bad in any of these areas (it's not), but Motorola is known for its radios and call quality, and they continue that tradition.
The ONE S is still a great phone and I was planning on keeping it for another few months at least, but there was a recent price drop for the Moto X. Because I use my phone for emails and browsing first, as a phone second, and as a camera a distant third, this is still an upgrade for me. I am disappointed that Motorola/Google dropped the ball with the camera though.
If you use the camera often, keep the ONE S!
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One S rulez !

If you spend time to read reviews before you buy, you'll know the camera on Moto X isn't that great. Most folks on Earth tend to think HTC camera bad which is very wrong, HTC camera isn't perfect but always give you surprised result.
One S camera is equipped with 8M 1/3.2" BSI, f/2.0, 28mm and most importantly an imagechip. The spec. is still at top-tier after two years from now, don't think Moto X could beat it easy. I want to upgrade my phone but most mid-end phone nowadays their camera is still behind One S but flagship model is just too expensive to me which made me continue to stick with One S, might be one more year til 2015. Very bad.
I'll look for M8 mini and Galaxy S5 mini later.

TheEndHK said:
If you spend time to read reviews before you buy, you'll know the camera on Moto X isn't that great.
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I did read the reviews, but thought the bar had been raised across the board since 18 months separates the release of the phones. This may be true for some manufacturers, but not others. Plus, a recent software update claimed to improve the camera, but evidently not enough. Hopefully a further update will improve things, but I'm not holding my breath.

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I did read the reviews, but thought the bar had been raised across the board since 18 months separates the release of the phones. This may be true for some manufacturers, but not others. Plus, a recent software update claimed to improve the camera, but evidently not enough. Hopefully a further update will improve things, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The main problem on Moto X is no dedicated ISP(imagechip) and it can't be improved simply though some software updates. The ISP performance inside Qualcomm CPU is always very poor.

[Q] Your Impression after use LG G Pro 2

Hi guys,
i want to ask you, how about your impression after using LG G Pro 2 ex: after a month
Any issue or problem after use LG G Pro 2?i want to buy this phone, but i confused because the information about this phone is not very lack, not like LG G3. So maybe you guys can help give your opinion.
Thanks a lot

I came from a white G2 and have had my white g pro 2 for about 3 months and i love it, if you dont mind the size..
Its camera is awesome like the g2's (same as the g2's just faster focusing and better ois and 4k if you need it) The g pro 2 has a much more powerful speaker (though i do like the G2's placement better when flat on a desk)
Basically its just a bigger G2!
-Few more things to add
the g2 has a brighter notification led
the g2 has 10x more developer support
the g pro 2 screen is very slightly less saturated than g2's but has slightly better viewing angles
the g pro 2 comes stock with multi-window
the g pro 2 has SD card slot and removable battery
The funny thing is im thinking of going back to a white g2 because:
better notification led
more manageable size
developer support
better speaker placement for notifications on desk, but much worse quality for music etc
Ive looked at getting the G3 but i like the look of white phones, especially on the front surrounding the screen and the g3 doesn't really have white bezels, also the quad hd screen is overkill and makes SD801 struggle, this is why i actually prefer the look & performance of the G2..

It is a pretty decent phone. Size is manageable, depending on individual's requirements. It is fast and smooth. Standby time is pretty good. I get consistently +/- 5 hours screen on time with a single charge. I wish I can have more, but the screen of FHD is sucking lots of juices.
Rooting is easy.
Chances are high that we are getting the lollipop update. Keeping our fingers crossed.

Bought it recently and fully satisfied by this beast.
Camera is better than my old G2, Screen quality is also better but battery timing is the area where g2 beats it. If its size doesn't bother you, then its hell of a phone for you.

leonclement said:
I came from a white G2 and have had my white g pro 2 for about 3 months and i love it, if you dont mind the size..
Its camera is awesome like the g2's (same as the g2's just faster focusing and better ois and 4k if you need it) The g pro 2 has a much more powerful speaker (though i do like the G2's placement better when flat on a desk)
Basically its just a bigger G2!
-Few more things to add
the g2 has a brighter notification led
the g2 has 10x more developer support
the g pro 2 screen is very slightly less saturated than g2's but has slightly better viewing angles
the g pro 2 comes stock with multi-window
the g pro 2 has SD card slot and removable battery
The funny thing is im thinking of going back to a white g2 because:
better notification led
more manageable size
developer support
better speaker placement for notifications on desk, but much worse quality for music etc
Ive looked at getting the G3 but i like the look of white phones, especially on the front surrounding the screen and the g3 doesn't really have white bezels, also the quad hd screen is overkill and makes SD801 struggle, this is why i actually prefer the look & performance of the G2..
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After, I read your review. Basically, LG G Pro 2 is a good smartphone. Many improvement in LG G Pro 2 from G2. I have thought to buy G3 too, but many opinion said that the battery not quite good and like you said that quad hd screen make SD801 struggle. Maybe, i will think it again to choose. any issue after you use lg g pro 2 after 3 months?Thanks for your review, leonclement
jychow74 said:
It is a pretty decent phone. Size is manageable, depending on individual's requirements. It is fast and smooth. Standby time is pretty good. I get consistently +/- 5 hours screen on time with a single charge. I wish I can have more, but the screen of FHD is sucking lots of juices.
Rooting is easy.
Chances are high that we are getting the lollipop update. Keeping our fingers crossed.
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The battery is drain fast. its +/- 5 hours screen on time. I think if i use this phone, it will happen to me too.
Are the G Pro 2 will get lollipop update? The information hasnt confirmed yet.
But your review is helping me. Thanks jychow
AamirXtreme said:
Bought it recently and fully satisfied by this beast.
Camera is better than my old G2, Screen quality is also better but battery timing is the area where g2 beats it. If its size doesn't bother you, then its hell of a phone for you.
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After i read the review from three of you, it seem lg g pro 2 is a good phone, people are satisfied after use this phone. althought it will compare to g2. hehe
For battery, maybe g2 is the best.
Thanks for your review,AamirXtreme

I bought this phone 5 months ago, and it was money well spent. Not a single moment of regret since i have this phone. Of course there are still pros and cons, which i will try to list.
Pros:
1. Excellent processor. I have never feel any excruciating lag from using this phone. Even after i play heavy games like modern combat, the phone doesnt show much lag
2. Ample RAM. This phone is quite future proof because it gives 3gb of RAM, thats why i love multitasking with this phone using LG's own windowed app
3.Excellent camera. This phone has a great camera. It can compete with the likes of g3, s5, even z3 and 6plus.
4. Screen size. I love watching hd movies on the go on this phone, the pictures are clear, the colors are spot on.
5. Big battery. From the time i wake up at 6 am, till i sleep at 11 pm, this phone usually still have >15% battery after a whole day of chatting plus 3d gaming and g+.
Cons:
1. Outdated processor by todays standard. Dont get me wrong though, this is still a very potent processor for all your need.
2. Large size. Its not that big for me, i can still use it 1 handed normally, but if you have small.hands, it might give you trouble, even though it has one handed mode.
3. Macro shot coulb be better. This is the only flaw i see from the camera
4. Less support in xda than other lg phones.
Hope this helps you decide, because IMO, you wont regret using this beast.

Absolutely agree with pros. Not deal breakers to me the cons.
Best device I've ever buyed until now.

Best phablet ever !!!

2015 X vs 2014 X - Thoughts from a discerning owner

It's been about two days with my new X so far. These are my thoughts regarding some of the details that some others glaze over:
Moto display. Some were worried that with the loss of AMOLED that moto display notifications would light up a whole room due to the whole LCD screen being forced to activate. This is not a problem. Even though the background is no longer a true black, it still looks to be a very dark gray. The positive here is that the brightness of the white notification icon on the 2015 X is MUCH less bright than the 2014 X. I'd say that as a whole the 2014 X lights up a dark room more so than it's newer counterpart.
Speakers - Without downloading a decibel-meter app, the 2015 X's perceived loudness is ~1.5x louder than the 2014 X, with a notable improvement in quality of sound. I sold my HTC M7 a long time ago, but unless the M8 was a drastic improvement, I don't recall the first gen boomsound sounding this good/loud.
Headphone output is louder than the 2014 X. I usually have my phone connected to a USB DAC before it goes into the AUX of my car, but I tested it directly from AUX to the phone, and the volume is noticeably louder on the new phone. I'm curious how much more wattage it provides. Will have to wait for anandtech's review to know for sure.
Load speed. Apps launch noticeably faster on the new X. Apps with a history of sluggish load times finally load at a faster clip, eg. Play Music, Youtube.
Camera/battery is improved. This has been discussed ad nauseam, no need to reiterate.
Radio performance seems slightly better. Reception seems improved in areas where I usually have dead spots.
The new X performs more poorly on my personal chrome benchmark than its older counterparts. What I do is load up slickdeals.net, go to the classic view, then simple view, then scroll up and down. The page usually has a LOT of information, both text and ads, so scrolling performance is tested. It wasn't until roughly towards the tail end of 2013 that chrome performance on my test was 100% smooth, ie iOS smooth. 2013 X and 2014 X on 5.0 were perfectly smooth on my test. The 2015 X is janky in this test. The "upgrade" in resolution for the 2015 X was not matched by a capable GPU. Otherwise, all the other sites I go to scroll just fine.
That's it for now. Any other questions, I'll field them.

I find the speakers to be fantastic. They need to be the golden standard. The screen also blew me away, it barely needs any brightness to be visible and also just looks......amazing. It is hard to explain. It's so easy to read from a greater distance that I remember be able to. But anyway, I am still testing other things on the phone. She feels very fast, which is a good thing. My only complaint is that the camera just is NOT sharp. I don't quite understand it.

The new LCD is garbage to me, I liked the amoled a lot better
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Devans32 said:
The new LCD is garbage to me, I liked the amoled a lot better
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That isn't a fair comparison. IPS is technically superior. AMOLED isn't accurate and until they STOP USING PENTILE, they won't ever beat IPS panels.
IPS is king, especially the Advanced High Performance Panels, can't wait to get a 120hz one on my desktop.
But I digress, the screen on the MXPE is amazing.

The colors just look weird to me, maybe I'm just not used to it yet but I don't like it. Don't get me wrong the clarity and high def are wonderful, it's just something about the colors
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Devans32 said:
The colors just look weird to me, maybe I'm just not used to it yet but I don't like it. Don't get me wrong the clarity and high def are wonderful, it's just something about the colors
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It's not that the colors are bad, it's that you're used to overly saturated colors.
What was your previous phone?

I'm with Devans32 in that the screens are not great. Its the reason I returned mine. I will admit that IPS panels are capable of being superior (whites, white power efficiency vs amoled, ect), but the viewing angles of the PE are just bad. Had the viewing angles been better, or had we kept an amoled, then I would be using the PE at this moment.

footballer62 said:
I'm with Devans32 in that the screens are not great. Its the reason I returned mine. I will admit that IPS panels are capable of being superior (whites, white power efficiency vs amoled, ect), but the viewing angles of the PE are just bad. Had the viewing angles been better, or had we kept an amoled, then I would be using the PE at this moment.
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I never understood why people care about viewing angles. Do you not usually view your phone straight on?

Damn people are crying about everything, get your amoled screen phone and stop the crying... Please!!
Coming from an amoled screen s5 and i like this better, is not over saturated..
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I never cared about viewing angles til this phone. I keep my phone in a side desk drawer at work and use active notification to lean over and check it many times a day. The off axis viewing for the PE isnt great, and compound that with the fact the PE's active display is half as bright as before, I could barely read texts now.

As far as my M8 is concerned, the speakers weren't quite as loud and the bass was a little better than the XPE at "normal" listening levels. The speakers on the XPE go louder and don't appear to clip, distort, or go through an EQ change. I'm happy with the speakers on the XPE, as I loved the way my M8 sounded when listening to YouTube or podcasts.
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erikiksaz said:
I never understood why people care about viewing angles. Do you not usually view your phone straight on?
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It's not even that point that bugs me. It's the fact the viewing angles are excellent. I can pretty much look at the screen from the side of the phone and it doesn't distort the color or brightness very much at all. To get significant distortion at an extreme viewing angle, the screen would not even be visible. I put this down as a faulty Display.

erikiksaz said:
The new X performs more poorly on my personal chrome benchmark than its older counterparts. What I do is load up slickdeals.net, go to the classic view, then simple view, then scroll up and down. The page usually has a LOT of information, both text and ads, so scrolling performance is tested. It wasn't until roughly towards the tail end of 2013 that chrome performance on my test was 100% smooth, ie iOS smooth. 2013 X and 2014 X on 5.0 were perfectly smooth on my test. The 2015 X is janky in this test. The "upgrade" in resolution for the 2015 X was not matched by a capable GPU. Otherwise, all the other sites I go to scroll just fine.
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I'm pretty happy with the phone but I definitely notice this issue specifically. androidpolice is another website I notice loaded mostly smooth on moto x 2014 on chrome, on this phone it's basically unusable with lag.
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 5, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 5 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I don't feel as though I'm being asked to make unacceptable compromises for a very competitively-priced phone that has a positively screaming performance. I came into this relationship with eyes wide open (and I don't need a DSLR-quality phone camera, either). So far, I couldn't be happier with the OnePlus 5.

money well spent! Love the performance and battery life

Awesome smart phone

Best smart phone I've ever purchased.

Got frustrated with the Nexus 6p after a year and 10 months, so I decided to buy a one plus 5. Battery life is exceptional and overall performance makes using the phone a joy. R.I.P. Nexus 6P. Really liking the device so far.

Liking my OP5 so much. I can squeeze the battery to the maximum and get many screen time hours. The camera takes really good pics (not like an S8 tough, but pretty decent) and everyone can forget about the lag. As I said, really happy!

Too soon to say, but it could end up being the best phone I've owned so far. 2 major things holding me back from that decision are the inconsistent battery life and camera performance.

I can def say i've grown to like the device. The camera bugged me out at first but its getting better. Coming from a S8+, I missed the speed of stock android. touchwiz is beyond laggy. The only thing i can say that bugs me is the phone not being waterproof. And i wouldve preferred not having a physically home button.

Ok so I've received my phone week ago after using it i have to admit that the phone is literally a beast! If you are looking for a phone for "The fastest" this is one you want in your hand.
I am lucky that my op5 is not affected by the "jelly effect". The things i loved
*Speaker ( almost like stereo.., actually i am a music person i listen to music most of the time i don't really like ear/head phones)
*Speed (as i said the beast in performance. I have used galaxy s8 but don't really like the TouchWiz! Tbh TouchWiz itself feels laggy!)
*Display ( i don't really care for qhd or anything so for me fhd is good for me i don't use vr.. if you are a frequent user of vr you may not like the display)
*Camera ( ok i have to admit not the best camera phone in the market but at the sametime not the worst. I don't really like the low light pictures until now thanks to gcamera hdr+ so now i am very happy in the camera department.)
*Battery ( i am getting 6.5hr+ sot. I am a music lover told you, my 4g volte + data always turned on , i use Bluetooth to connect and listen music, 3 hrs average Calling! Standby time is very good so i am very much satisfied)
Things i hate
I dont like the microphone for the Calls it captures more background sound not like the op3! Op3 was good!
Vibration motor! Still not that much improvement! Love the iPhone vibration though!
Not water proof!

Love the phone. Solid 4.5/5.
Prior to this, I utilized a Samsung Note 3 and the performance is night and day.
This is literally the fastest phone I've used, it runs smoother than my friends S8. The battery life is amazing as well. I'd give the phone a 5/5 if it were waterproof and if it had OIS. The waterproofing isn't necessary but I live in an area where it rains quite frequently, so it would have been nice. The camera is great in regular light and the video recording is good (other than the fact that is clips the edges of the videos in order to electronically stabilize it).
I'd love for it to be priced comparably to the OP3 but it is still a good phone nonetheless and hundreds of dollars cheaper than the competition.

I'm in love with this phone, i come from an S7 edge, the interface is so much cleaner, no duplicate app, no lag, this phone is slightly larger and harder tu use in a hand but i prefer the OP5 material, the glass is too slippery and become oily. The camera of the s7 edge was a little bit better in low light, but in daylight the photo looks the same and the zoom is pretty fun to use.
I have the soft gold version and it's really gorgeous

voted 4, simply because OIS is missing, coming from the HTC 10 it's a major change and not in a positive way, the camera isn't awful by any means but OIS should have been mandatory, it's crazy that it wasn't especially seeing as they had made such noise about it.
Other than that, the phone is a monster, primarily due to the snapdragon 835, it can play pretty much any game / emulator, even ones previously unplayable, ie: PPSSPP and Gamecube games on dolphin.
Would also have been nice to see waterproofing (even though it's already been tested to have some form of protection)
overall i'm happy, it's just OIS not being there. Shame.

xBigMikex said:
Got frustrated with the Nexus 6p after a year and 10 months, so I decided to buy a one plus 5. Battery life is exceptional and overall performance makes using the phone a joy. R.I.P. Nexus 6P. Really liking the device so far.
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hello,
As a nexus 6p owner: how does the OP5 camera compares to the Nexus 6p? wich one is better in your opinion?
thx in advance,

gallegus said:
hello,
As a nexus 6p owner: how does the OP5 camera compares to the Nexus 6p? wich one is better in your opinion?
thx in advance,
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The one plus is the better camera, by some way. Don't get me wrong the 6P was a great phone, first and only Huawei I've ever had, my sister is still using it.
As ois is absent from both devices you're simply comparing the actual lenses and in this regard the one plus 5 smokes most phones. It's really just ois that makes the difference , stability on EIS which the one plus does have just doesn't match up to ois.
But unless you're recording a video or trying to get a perfect image whilst zooming you can live without it.
Even the iPhone 7 is without ois.

dladz said:
The one plus is the better camera, by some way. Don't get me wrong the 6P was a great phone, first and only Huawei I've ever had, my sister is still using it.
As ois is absent from both devices you're simply comparing the actual lenses and in this regard the one plus 5 smokes most phones. It's really just ois that makes the difference , stability on EIS which the one plus does have just doesn't match up to ois.
But unless you're recording a video or trying to get a perfect image whilst zooming you can live without it.
Even the iPhone 7 is without ois.
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thx a bunch!

gallegus said:
thx a bunch!
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No worries mate. The one plus is a beast man, it surprised me and I'm quite a critic.

It was the best "shut up and take my money" I have ever faced. The feeling off the touch is good, materials are premium, extremely fast OS and touch reaction etc..
Ofc, I felt in love with the dash charge! Ok, is not as fast as oneplus claims to be .. but is really fast!
Ah! I was about to forget .. do not let your GF take a selfie using the front camera! She will have your phone occupied for the rest of its life!
Here is my oneplus 5 referral link (EU), in case someone wants a -20e discount on accessories during his oneplus 5 buy.

I am so anxious... I just bought the OPS 5 128gb... My friend is bringing to me on Sep 22nd....

Had an Xiaomi Mi 5, absolutely fantastic in every way. But the screen was too small for me. Then changed to the Mi s plus, that's a perfect one! But I sold it and bought the op5, the only issue is the portrait mode, the Mi 5s plus was better. Despite that, it's really the best smartphone for now.

Moto X Pure VS Pixel 2 XL

So I finally switched, after more than 2 years with the Moto X Pure. I had the Pixel 2 XL for about a week, here is my comparison.
Speed: No doubt the Pixel is far quicker, snappier, but anyone would have expected that.
Screen: I prefer the display of the Moto. Now you would think the size difference 6 vs 5.7 is huge, but when you play videos it seems like the width of the Moto gives you a bit more of the viewing experience. Theres is not a lot of difference with the quality of the display, the Pixel seemed to have a bit deeper blacks.
Camera: Pixels camera is just great, it almost consistently takes great pix. Love the night shots and the portrait mode. No comparison...
Speakers: I expected the Pixel speakers to be better, but after putting them side by side I found out that the Moto X Pure has speakers that are just a bit louder, just a tiny bit. Theres no audio quality difference
Build: Both phones are built well. Both feel heavy. The Moto X is thicker and the Pixel is lenghtier.
Forgot to mention the battery. The Pixel battery is amazing. I never had a phone last this long.
I think its a perfect upgrade.
Few things that would make the Pixel even better:
1. Additional wide angle lens like on the V30.
2. Minimize the height a bit
3. IP68
4. Chop chop for light

Don't forget about us here in the forums!
As long as you're happy with it, that's what matters. Personally, going from a reasonably attractive phone (like the Pure Edition) to a comparatively ugly phone with an Oled display (like the Pixel 2 XL) would be a bit of a letdown for me. However, if the advancements made in terms of camera and hardware performance are worth it to you, don't let that stand in the way of personal progress.

Since you mentioned the speakers. They were actually a big surprise for me, when I got the X-Style.. The main reason I bought the X-style, was that it was oddly cheap here, when considering some very decent stats.. The fact that it had stereo speakers was just a bonus.. But they are really good.
I was basically shocked the first time I put on the teaser trailer for Agony, and got a good blast of, surprisingly non-tinny, music in my face =)
Overall, with the P2-XL being about 4 times the price of the X-style, I would expect the P2-XL to be better.. But so far I have been very happy with my X-style.. The only thing I can think of, that would improve the X-style, would be an Amoled display.. Like the X-Force has.. But the X-force is an ugly block, with no developer community, So here I am on the X-style board

LCD makes the phone
timmtn said:
The only thing I can think of, that would improve the X-style, would be an Amoled display..
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Be careful what you wish for. The Moto X Pure Edition has one of the best displays in the business. A dingy old oled panel would've been a dealbreaker for me. If you want a Pure Edition-like phone with Oled, the Droid Turbo (or possibly the Nexus 6) is it. All of this phone's successors (the Moto Z series) have Oled panels, as do most of its predecessors.

Not a Pixel XL 2 only XL
AmelFl said:
So I finally switched, after more than 2 years with the Moto X Pure. I had the Pixel 2 XL for about a week, here is my comparison.
Speed: No doubt the Pixel is far quicker, snappier, but anyone would have expected that.
Screen: I prefer the display of the Moto. Now you would think the size difference 6 vs 5.7 is huge, but when you play videos it seems like the width of the Moto gives you a bit more of the viewing experience. Theres is not a lot of difference with the quality of the display, the Pixel seemed to have a bit deeper blacks.
Camera: Pixels camera is just great, it almost consistently takes great pix. Love the night shots and the portrait mode. No comparison...
Speakers: I expected the Pixel speakers to be better, but after putting them side by side I found out that the Moto X Pure has speakers that are just a bit louder, just a tiny bit. Theres no audio quality difference
Build: Both phones are built well. Both feel heavy. The Moto X is thicker and the Pixel is lenghtier.
Forgot to mention the battery. The Pixel battery is amazing. I never had a phone last this long.
I think its a perfect upgrade.
Few things that would make the Pixel even better:
1. Additional wide angle lens like on the V30.
2. Minimize the height a bit
3. IP68
4. Chop chop for light
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I found that like you that the sound wasnt as good but what i really noticed was the call and cell quality and strength were subpar to the MXPE. My XL is on its way back to google. I just couldnt justify the cost. Meanwhile my MXPE is still fine..

I just got my Pixel 2 XL a few days ago and I'm absolutely loving the Pixel. My Moto X Pure will still likely go down as my favorite device of all time due to it's specs, price, and performance. When it comes to the Pixel 2 XL, don't believe the hype on the screen issues. The screen is fantastic on the XL, the blue shift that people are complaining about is there, but it's waay over exaggerated. All oled screens have some sort of color shift. My buddy has the Samsung S8+ which is supposed to be one of the top rated screens on any phone and it has worse blue shift than the Pixel 2 XL along with an overall red tone to the screen. The curved glass is sooo cool and really makes using the phone a pleasure. I didn't realize how much I would enjoy the curved glass until owning the device. The big thing I was concerned about with going with the Pixel was the lack of an external SD slot, but I'm not really all that concerned about it now. I bought a really nice usb C adapter that holds a micro sd card in it and also has a usb A connection to hook up to a PC. When I do my Titanium/TWRP backups, I just click that in and do my backups. Nice and easy. The speakers on the XL sound pretty good, I notice little to no difference. They are phone speakers after all, but they are stereo, front firing and do their job. The signal strength on the Pixel is unmatched. I'm amazed at how strong the wifi and cell signals are compared to my MXP. The build of the phone is great, and feels like the dollar amount invested. The immediate updates are one of the biggest things I like along with firmware being posted almost immediately from Google. No more hunting down/capturing OTA's or full firmware zips. As much as I enjoyed Moto Display, the Pixels ambient display on 8.1 is top notch, has double tap to wake, and we get a notification light back (which I really missed while using the MXP).
Overall, I'm very happy with the Pixel 2 XL. Lenavo really ruined the MXP and it's unlikely I'll ever go back to them unless they go back to the way Motorola originally set up their phone's update schedules. Right now as I type this I'm wiping my MXP and setting it up as a dedicated music media player for my car to replace my current old LG-G3. My battery is still strong on the MXP and I expect to get several more years of service out of it.