Is there any Cons to buying from best buy? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5

32gb is $249 at BB
32gb is $299 at Vzw
I'm really tempted to buy it from Best buy but I've never done a contract through them

GreeleyXda said:
32gb is $249 at BB
32gb is $299 at Vzw
I'm really tempted to buy it from Best buy but I've never done a contract through them
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I pre-ordered mine from best buy....cheaper and you get the free wireless charger. The process is pretty much the same.
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Best Buy also has a deal for $200 trade-in credit for ANY working smartphone.

fghtffyrdmns said:
Best Buy also has a deal for $200 trade-in credit for ANY working smartphone.
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I traded in my old HTC Thunderbolt best deal ever.
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I just got mine with Best Buy today. I'm on a loyalty plan 60 dollars unlimited talk test and 2 GB data. 249 plus tax I would have taken the 200 trade in for the gift card, but giving my Note 2 to my stepdaughter. I did get the wireless charger too the broke the USB cable within two minutes. It got bent as I accidentally tripped and the power bar turned over and actually bent the USB plug. No worries, will just use the USB cable from my charger if I use it.
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That sucks, I actually paid full retail via Vzws website.

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I traded in my old HTC Thunderbolt best deal ever.
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Awesome, that's almost as good as my trading in a iPhone 3GS. That's why I save these old phones, I have a dozen more 3GS and 4s that I'll trade in when the iPhone 6S comes out.

I purchased the Note 5 on the Edge program and received a $200 Best Buy Gift Card and free wireless charger. I'll pay the phone off as soon as I can and use the $200 gift card on a Sound Bar for my TV.

I just made a boo boo. I bought the note 5 yesterday from best buy and didn't think of taking in my Droid X2 to see if they would give me the $200 gift card. Do you think they'd give it to me if I took it in and traded today?
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Juice3250 said:
I just made a boo boo. I bought the note 5 yesterday from best buy and didn't think of taking in my Droid X2 to see if they would give me the $200 gift card. Do you think they'd give it to me if I took it in and traded today?
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I'm not sure if it will help but I did the same thing with Verizon. I ordered on the phone and didn't do the trade in but they gave my a $170 gift card and $30 credit on my bill for a S5 I traded in at the store. BestBuy will most likely let you return the phone and repurchase it with the promo. They are good with stuff like that.

I may very well try it but I don't want to return the phone to get it.
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Juice3250 said:
I just made a boo boo. I bought the note 5 yesterday from best buy and didn't think of taking in my Droid X2 to see if they would give me the $200 gift card. Do you think they'd give it to me if I took it in and traded today?
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Yep, you could cancel the whole thing and do it all over if they wanted to go that route since you're in your 15 trial period.

As long as you're within 14 days of the activation (the carrier return policy that BBY is held to) and the promotion hadn't ended, they should and need to accommodate you on this.

The way I read it when going through the online cart, Best Buy would only give you the $200 device buy-back if you do the monthly installment, i.e. full price. Not true? I used an upgrade to get mine instead of paying the full price/24 mo.

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Infuse $99 at Best Buy this week!

New contract and upgrade price are going for $99. If you haven't bought it this is the time to buy it! or if you bought at Best Buy within the last 30 days go get a refund for the difference!
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...id=1218325953340&skuId=2404316&contract_desc=
Well maybe I should take mines back to att and then go to best buy lol
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mizz lia said:
Well maybe I should take mines back to att and then go to best buy lol
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You should but they would probably want to charge you a restocking fee of $35. Maybe they can price match it for you. Best Buy offers great sales from time to time and they don't charge restocking fees so I buy my phones there instead lol
Just got back from Best Buy with an extra $50. I like their 30 day matching program. Thanks for the info.
Its been 35 days as i bought it on launch day....will best buy still do best price match ?
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Nope dont return it and go to best buy. went into My corporate att store and they credited the 100$ difference when I told then about the sale love att
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garbagecanman said:
Nope dont return it and go to best buy. went into My corporate att store and they credited the 100$ difference when I told then about the sale love att
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So if I go to an att store they will give me $100???
Thanks!
I bought mine 20 days ago and then bought one for my sister yesterday. I called A&T and they credited me the difference for both phones back to my account. Appreciate the information.
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So if I go to an att store they will give me $100???
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They will credit the account, they wont give you money back like in cash or anything. But the credit is fine with me
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Got my infuse from wal-mart today. showed them the online add from best buy and they gave me my phone for $99.
I bought my infuse about 2 weeks ago, I always buy my phones from bestbuy but for some reason only AT&T would upgrade since my actual date was June 26th. So I went back to AT&T and told them bestbuy had a special for the infuse,at the time they were selling for $150, which AT&T gladly matched. The girl who was cashing me out told me accessories were on sale, buy 2 get 1 free, I told her I didn't have any cash for that right now. A few minutes later she tells me to go pick out a case, so I did ($35) she than walked across the store and grabbed a set of 3 screen protectors and a car charger, she than asked me which id want, a blue tooth head set or a set of panasonic wireless blue tooth ear buds, I took the ear buds. Next she tells me "shhh, don't tell any body" the ear buds are sick, ill be streaming music at work walking around the building why my phone is at my desk, not too mention I can pause, play, skip, and answer my phone and they retail for $100. The stuff I for for free was worth more than what I paid for the phone, so id feel a little guilty going back in and asking for an addition $50 price match, but I might. Lol
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Yup got my 50$ back!
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May have to swing by the AT&T store...I have only had mine a couple weeks.
Went to Best Buy yesterday, got my $50 refund and bought a 16gb class 10 microsd card they have on sale for $39.99.
I went to att I asked for price match, they wont give me back my $450
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I went to Att and they charged me another $100 because I asked for a price match and bestbuy is selling for more than Att. Some of these stories .......
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Cheaper at Sams club if you're a member
free activation and 120 or so
Got mine free only paid taxes and shipping!! Over the phone with att haha
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I bought my Infuse 4 days ago for $199 at ATT. I went to att store and told them i'd be returning it and going to BB, and they gladly knocked $100 off my bill and gave me a free case....pretty cool
I ordered mine from costco online so I could have 90 days to exchange for the Attain if it does come out soon... I just emailed them to see if they would match the price. I'll let you guys know what happens.

How did you purchase your note

With Verizon trying to move away from contracts how did you purchase your note 5
I used The Edge but will most likely pay it off sooner than two years. I get a $15.00 discount on every phone on the edge so it isn't all that bad for me.
Paid $800 cash
Bought it through a Comcast promo using Edge to get them, activated 2 lines getting 2 x $200 gift cards, traded in a couple of old smart phones to Verizon, getting 2 x $200 gift cards from Verizon. When I get the gift cards in I will pay off the Note 5 and other filler phone with those gift cards.
Paid 839.00 tax included
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Paid $839 through Best Buy. Charging cradle shipped today via USPS. Hopefully Note V ships tomorrow or Monday next week
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2 year contract..... Still available to me.
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Bought two of them out right.
GreeleyXda said:
With Verizon trying to move away from contracts how did you purchase your note 5
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Edge up from Galaxy S5 and it's definitely and upgrade for me. And I'm new to this forum.
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On loyalty plan 2 year contract, 60 a month unlimited talk, text and 2 GB data. Paid 249 for it at Best Buy. Bill stays the same. Sweet.
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I purchased from Best Buy with a 10%off coupon. 629.99 for Verizon 32gb
I purchased full price from best buy planning to get the free wireless charger and the $200 trade in on my old phone while keeping my unlimited data. However best buy lied. They said in their ad that I just had to activate the phone, what they meant was I had to activate it on a new contract.
I did get them to price match Verizon tho
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I have unlimited data. I am adding a new line and doing the device payment using the Comcast link. I will get $200 visa gift card from Comcast. I will trade in a phone to get the $200 trade in. I may try to port a number for the extra $100. The $40 activation fee was waived. I will suspend and cancel the line. I will end up with $400-$500 in gift cards and account credit. I intend to sell my note 4. Hopefully I should get over $300 for it. In the end it will cost me less then $200.
I still have a couple thousand in account credit from this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VerizonTradeIn/
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Full price, which I'd typically only do for a developer edition. No regrets thus far.
Could someone tell me what they're paying for a single line with tax? I'm looking to switch to Verizon but I'm thinking they'll kill me on tax. I want to buy the note 5 is why I'm in this forum.
Delakit said:
Full price, which I'd typically only do for a developer edition. No regrets thus far.
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I need a 256 gb developer edition lol
B_I_N_G_E said:
Could someone tell me what they're paying for a single line with tax? I'm looking to switch to Verizon but I'm thinking they'll kill me on tax. I want to buy the note 5 is why I'm in this forum.
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You should mention what state and city you are in. The tax is completely based on location.
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Delakit said:
Full price, which I'd typically only do for a developer edition. No regrets thus far.
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Wait there's a note 5 dev edition?
edge. im getting $25 credit each month. so its only costing me $8/mo since i got the 64 gb
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I purchased from Best Buy with a 10%off coupon. 629.99 for Verizon 32gb
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Where you got the coupon?

Best Buy wireless charger and $200 gift card deal..who's done it?

Has anybody here done it for the note 5? I currently have an LG g3 and just transferred an upgrade to my line. If they are truly giving $200 and guarantee for any smartphone I have a working droid x laying here.
I dont think anyone has done this yet since you get the charger and gift card when you pick the phone up, which they wont sell until Friday.
Got Mine at Best Buy
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I dont think anyone has done this yet since you get the charger and gift card when you pick the phone up, which they wont sell until Friday.
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Got mine today, traded old Droid X, got $200 GC that I was able to use towards phone. Pretty easy.
I added a new 2yr contract on my account. Bought the 64gb version for 349. Sold them an iPhone 3GS for 200. BB tried to give me the free wireless charger, but I didn't want it (already have a dozen of these things), I traded that for a $40 tempered glass. Also, they gave me a Samsung-The Next Big Thing is Here t-shirt.
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I did it
And now I have way too much giftcard money to bestbuy. And the wireless charging pad isn't working! It seems many people are having this issue (s6, s6+ ect.), but no real answers.
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cguy1213 said:
Got mine today, traded old Droid X, got $200 GC that I was able to use towards phone. Pretty easy.
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Did you buy the phone out right? They wouldn't let me put it towards the phone on the edge program.
To get $200 trade in you have to either renew 2yr contract or get on new pay plan. Lucky me used one of my data lines. Can't get $200 trade in if buying outright.
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To get $200 trade in you have to either renew 2yr contract or get on new pay plan. Lucky me used one of my data lines. Can't get $200 trade in if buying outright.
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I forgot.
Did everyone else have to pay $50 to get on the pre-order list? They made me pay $50, then they gave me a $50 gift card. That, with the $200 from another smartphone, you can't spend it all on the phone (unless you had over $50 in taxes?). It really bummed me out because I don't shop at bestbuy.
Yeah I had to get $50 f2f also
I got my Note 5 64GB at Best Buy first thing Friday morning. They gave me the free Samsung wireless charger but I passed on the $200 gift card. I'm getting $260 for my Note 4 from Gazelle.
Best buy wouldn't give me the wireless charger or the $200 because I paid full price.(to keep my unlimited data)
The advertising said you just have to activate the phone to get it, but in the store they claim you have to activate it "on a new contract".
I was going to buy it anyway and they price matched Verizon so I went ahead and got it. But I won't be buying from BB again.
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If you get it on the Edge Program, you get a $200 gift card and free wireless charger. Then if you trade in a phone, you get another $200 gift card. You can pay the phone off anytime during the edge program. Where there's a will, there's a way.
All the Best Buys around Los Angeles seem to be out of the 64gb verizon variant. They refuse to talk about stock over the phone so I have no idea when they will get more in. Hope its before this deal runs out.
cguy1213 said:
Got mine today, traded old Droid X, got $200 GC that I was able to use towards phone. Pretty easy.
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Did you get bestbuy GC and was able to apply it right away? making your phone -200 on VZ payment agreement?
slimc84 said:
If you get it on the Edge Program, you get a $200 gift card and free wireless charger. Then if you trade in a phone, you get another $200 gift card. You can pay the phone off anytime during the edge program. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Do you mean 200$ gift-card Via Verizon? that would mean trading in 2 phones. I wonder if Verizon would know?
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Did you get bestbuy GC and was able to apply it right away? making your phone -200 on VZ payment agreement?
Got $200 GC from BB and used that right away. I renewed contract on 2yr line, not through VZW's new plan line. I still have family plan so I was able to renew using that. New plan only effects new customers.
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cguy1213 said:
patt2k said:
Did you get bestbuy GC and was able to apply it right away? making your phone -200 on VZ payment agreement?
Got $200 GC from BB and used that right away. I renewed contract on 2yr line, not through VZW's new plan line. I still have family plan so I was able to renew using that. New plan only effects new customers.
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Oh I see but just making sure when you went to get the phone the gift-card they give you used it right away to make the phone cost less? that's what I need to know I don't want to look stupid if I go and upgrade and they will tell me they can't apply it towards the phone
thanks!
@cguy1213;6249043
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patt2k said:
cguy1213 said:
Oh I see but just making sure when you went to get the phone the gift-card they give you used it right away to make the phone cost less? that's what I need to know I don't want to look stupid if I go and upgrade and they will tell me they can't apply it towards the phone
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Yep they'll make sure your old trade in phone turns on and off, no cracks, they didn't even ask for my charger. Once they verify it's in working condition they'll do some "rebate thing" and give you $200 gift card. Then at the end they'll renew your contract and give you total for everything. That is when you used gift card and pay difference. If you have rewards certificate make sure you tell them about it also so you can use those also.
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patt2k said:
Yep they'll make sure your old trade in phone turns on and off, no cracks, they didn't even ask for my charger. Once they verify it's in working condition they'll do some "rebate thing" and give you $200 gift card. Then at the end they'll renew your contract and give you total for everything. That is when you used gift card and pay difference. If you have rewards certificate make sure you tell them about it also so you can use those also.
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Ok great would you mind going into my verizon and just clicking on your line with note5 and tell me what was exactly the agreement starting price? if it was -200 it should be maybe somewhere 500 something or less if you got the 32gb. That was last question thanks!
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Nuke39 said:
Best buy wouldn't give me the wireless charger or the $200 because I paid full price.(to keep my unlimited data)
The advertising said you just have to activate the phone to get it, but in the store they claim you have to activate it "on a new contract".
I was going to buy it anyway and they price matched Verizon so I went ahead and got it. But I won't be buying from BB again.
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Good to know. I was going to buy mine at best buy just for the charger.
$349.99 for 64gig -$200 trade in= $149.99, this is with contract renewal. Of course tax added on.
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$349.99 for 64gig -$200 trade in= $149.99, this is with contract renewal. Of course tax added on.
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Oh you got it on contract alright I thought you did it with device payment. Verizon wants 262$ for me to pay give up my note4 in order to get the 5. I think I will pass on this offer though.

Note 5 @ Costco

Hey, just a heads up Costco has the Note 5 and Edge plus and you get a $150 Costco cash card and the Samsung wireless charger. Of Course you will have to mail in a rebate form but seems good to me. I believe Bestbuys deal for $200 is if you trade in a phone to them, so Costco is better. Also if you are on Tmobile with less than perfect credit and Tmobile wants you to pay a big down payment at Costco all you will end up paying is the sales tax and that's it. Also FYI if you have mailed in a Costco rebate before you know it can take months to get your rebate, but Costcos rebate handler has apparently changed the process and are claiming you will get your rebate in about 3 weeks so fingers crossed.
You work for Costco? Lol
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Hey, just a heads up Costco has the Note 5 and Edge plus and you get a $150 Costco cash card and the Samsung wireless charger. Of Course you will have to mail in a rebate form but seems good to me. I believe Bestbuys deal for $200 is if you trade in a phone to them, so Costco is better. Also if you are on Tmobile with less than perfect credit and Tmobile wants you to pay a big down payment at Costco all you will end up paying is the sales tax and that's it. Also FYI if you have mailed in a Costco rebate before you know it can take months to get your rebate, but Costcos rebate handler has apparently changed the process and are claiming you will get your rebate in about 3 weeks so fingers crossed.
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That's where I got my Note5 and it also included a car mount, car charger (big woo) and the standard 25 dollar Costco Cash card for a total of & 175.00. Also 1 year of Netflix free ($107 value) if you have signed up. I think you can still sign up even after the 20th of August. That's how the S6 was. Samsung will give you a 30% off coupon for any Samsung accessories purchase under $59.99. The deals are fantastic and really bring the price down pretty close to the price of the Moto X Style.
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Just called my local Costco and they said they don't sell 64GB in stores and they are sold out on black 32GB in the district. They really don't want my money.. As for the promos though, they said they only offer $150 rebate, wireless charger, car mount, and car charger. They said no additional $25 but hey, I'll take that $150.
No I don't. Lol
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You work for Costco? Lol
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No I don't. Lol
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That's where I got my Note5 and it also included a car mount, car charger (big woo) and the standard 25 dollar Costco Cash card for a total of & 175.00. Also 1 year of Netflix free ($107 value) if you have signed up. I think you can still sign up even after the 20th of August. That's how the S6 was. Samsung will give you a 30% off coupon for any Samsung accessories purchase under $59.99. The deals are fantastic and really bring the price down pretty close to the price of the Moto X Style.
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Yeah I'm still waiting on my Netflix coupon, I already had one year free from the GS6 so I guess I'll be good for a while.
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I got a 1yr subscription from tmobile for buying the n5
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I signed up. Just waiting for the promo code b
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No additional 25 gift card confirmed
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That's weird, I went to Costco yesterday and it was a total of $175 in gift cards. 150/25. Not sure why some are giving the $25 and some aren't
Also has anyone gotten the white version at Costco. Everyone around my area only has white - -
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That's weird, I went to Costco yesterday and it was a total of $175 in gift cards. 150/25. Not sure why some are giving the $25 and some aren't
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Well I know in California they are having some kind of 14 day test with the rebates. Apparently Costco heard everyone's complaints about Stuart Lee Rebates and how long it takes for them to issue rebates in the past, so current rebates should be completed with 14 days after they receive the rebate. But I don't know if this is available in all areas. Maybe that might be a reason for the different rebate amounts.
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Also has anyone gotten the white version at Costco. Everyone around my area only has white - -
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Costco in the Portland Oregon metro area only have black. Said they could order white. My Note 4 was white so I went with black this time.
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Did this for my wife. Zero money down. 150/25 rebate. No taxes. OEM Wireless Charger and car mount. Boo ya.
guess i will go check out costco on pay day, before i go to the corporate tmobile store.
My local Costco gives a $25 Costco card with any Tmobile phone purchase, all the time. The $150 card is a promo until the end of August for the Note 5 and Edge+ only. I got a total of $175 and a Samsung wireless charging pad.
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I got my note 5 from Costco. That charging pad is nice. I got the 150 mail in and the 25. I got mine on Sunday.
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Did this for my wife. Zero money down. 150/25 rebate. No taxes. OEM Wireless Charger and car mount. Boo ya.
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I ran by my costco's, but they only stock the 32gb one. It is too bad because i really want the 64gb.

Just ordered Note 5. Question.

I just ordered the Note 5 taking advantage of the $100 discount. I currently have a Note 3 and was wondering if I could get any money or credit for it by trading it in to Verizon. I also heard some people got credit or something from Samsung after buying the Note 5. I just can't find the thread anymore. Anybody know of any credit I can get with my Note 3 from Verizon or Samsung? Thanks.
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I purchased a Note 5 for my son at Best Buy and got a $250 gift card.
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Wendemixda said:
I just ordered the Note 5 taking advantage of the $100 discount. I currently have a Note 3 and was wondering if I could get any money or credit for it by trading it in to Verizon. I also heard some people got credit or something from Samsung after buying the Note 5. I just can't find the thread anymore. Anybody know of any credit I can get with my Note 3 from Verizon or Samsung? Thanks.
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I know VZW had a promo going a couple of months ago where you were guaranteed trade-in credit for the Note5--but that's ended for some time now. You should be able to look up the trade-in value for your phone on the VZW site before going in-store.
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Wendemixda said:
I just ordered the Note 5 taking advantage of the $100 discount. I currently have a Note 3 and was wondering if I could get any money or credit for it by trading it in to Verizon. I also heard some people got credit or something from Samsung after buying the Note 5. I just can't find the thread anymore. Anybody know of any credit I can get with my Note 3 from Verizon or Samsung? Thanks.
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I upgraded and bought my note 5 the same way 2 weeks ago. Online with promo code to get $100 off the phone. Before i did, i went to nearby verizon store and said i could get $300 credit if I were to trade in my note 3. But they said up to, if in above good or mint condition, depending on condition of your phone and manager descrition. Hope you enjoy your note 5
dont forget to claim samsung promotions. $50 BBGC and other goodies like bluetooth headphones, etc.
Wendemixda said:
I just ordered the Note 5 taking advantage of the $100 discount. I currently have a Note 3 and was wondering if I could get any money or credit for it by trading it in to Verizon. I also heard some people got credit or something from Samsung after buying the Note 5. I just can't find the thread anymore. Anybody know of any credit I can get with my Note 3 from Verizon or Samsung? Thanks.
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I went from a Note 3 to 5 also and did get an offer from Verizon. The offer said up to $200 back. When I clicked on the link and filed out the form their website it told me they would give me $19.84 for the Note 3. Decided to just sell it on ebay with all the related accessories - I'll do that and get around $200 instead...
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I went from a Note 3 to 5 also and did get an offer from Verizon. The offer said up to $200 back. When I clicked on the link and filed out the form their website it told me they would give me $19.84 for the Note 3. Decided to just sell it on ebay with all the related accessories - I'll do that and get around $200 instead...
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Dang sorry to hear you got sandbaged on the Verizon price. Hope you get better deal on ebay.
KruseLudsMobile said:
I went from a Note 3 to 5 also and did get an offer from Verizon. The offer said up to $200 back. When I clicked on the link and filed out the form their website it told me they would give me $19.84 for the Note 3. Decided to just sell it on ebay with all the related accessories - I'll do that and get around $200 instead...
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Hey man the website price isn't correct. They should text you a promo code about a week after purchase. I traded in a galaxy nexus that was worth $1 when I entered it on the site, but then I entered the promo code and it jumped to $200.
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javamaan said:
dont forget to claim samsung promotions. $50 BBGC and other goodies like bluetooth headphones, etc.
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Can you elaborate on this? What's BBGC and how can I claim these "goodies"? Thanks.
Wendemixda said:
Can you elaborate on this? What's BBGC and how can I claim these "goodies"? Thanks.
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BBGC= Best buy gift card. He's talking about the promotions you can sign up for on the Samsung website for doing things such as buying a phone, activating Samsung pay, etc. Usually they will throw in a free item or cash back.
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toskabab said:
BBGC= Best buy gift card. He's talking about the promotions you can sign up for on the Samsung website for doing things such as buying a phone, activating Samsung pay, etc. Usually they will throw in a free item or cash back.
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Just checked Samsung site. My card is not compatible with Samsung Pay (I already knew that) and I can't find any offers related to buying a new phone. Is that something you need to do before buying? I'd love to get something out of buying the phone if I can ?
Wendemixda said:
Can you elaborate on this? What's BBGC and how can I claim these "goodies"? Thanks.
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BBGC = Best Buy Gift card. For goodies please go to samsungpromotions.com
All these promotions are for USA buyers.
javamaan said:
BBGC = Best Buy Gift card. For goodies please go to samsungpromotions.com
All these promotions are for USA buyers.
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Thanks. I live in Iowa.
I got the best discount from Best Buy
Wendemixda said:
I just ordered the Note 5 taking advantage of the $100 discount. I currently have a Note 3 and was wondering if I could get any money or credit for it by trading it in to Verizon. I also heard some people got credit or something from Samsung after buying the Note 5. I just can't find the thread anymore. Anybody know of any credit I can get with my Note 3 from Verizon or Samsung? Thanks.
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You did not say where you ordered your phone. It seems like the offers are always changing. I was able to get the best deal through Best Buy back in December. I got Best Buy $100 discount as well as $ off by financing through the Verizon plan of the day. I was planning to buy it out right. But it worked out to be cheaper to add it to there program. I had unlimited and they weren't about to let me keep that anymore.

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