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I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
However, I am really getting sick of the bloatware and HTC Sense on the phone and would like to remove it as soon as possible.
Do rooted phones receive OTA updates? Can the OTA updates mess up the root?
Will it be more difficult to root after the OTA update?
Best thing to do is root now. The devs are extremely good at getting the newest ota in a rooted and flashable form when its released.
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/agree - if you are going to root, might as well root now before applying an OTA
The other thing is that these rumors (and that's all they are) will just keep you in limbo forever while you don't take any action because you are waiting on something that isn't even real. So screw the rumors and just do what you want today and make the most of it.
Best option is to root, it may be rumored to be out then, but VZW is really bad about getting out updates.
Root + custom roms/kernels out now are still better than what the OTA will offer.
Root now. Root now. Root. Now.
Is there a deodexed version of the stock Rom? I can't find it.
7/6 now? First it was 6/30, now 7/6? I'll be surprised if it happens.
Gnoop said:
7/6 now? First it was 6/30, now 7/6? I'll be surprised if it happens.
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7/7 is when our mobile hotspots are supposed to go inactive, and they were going to do this with an update, even if it is just an update to remove unlimited hotspot
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joshnichols189 said:
7/7 is when our mobile hotspots are supposed to go inactive, and they were going to do this with an update, even if it is just an update to remove unlimited hotspot
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Ah right. Brain not fully functional today. I was thinking of the supposed Gingerbread OTA rumors floating around.
drdiatom said:
I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
However, I am really getting sick of the bloatware and HTC Sense on the phone and would like to remove it as soon as possible.
Do rooted phones receive OTA updates? Can the OTA updates mess up the root?
Will it be more difficult to root after the OTA update?
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1. Don't listen to rumors about the next release date of official updates for our phone.
2. Rooted phones running custom ROMs don't receive OTA updates.
3. An unrooted phone that receives the next OTA update may or may not have to wait for a new rooting method.
Hope this helps
The reasons above were why I went ahead and rooted my phone. I wasn't having any problems with it but didn't want to get locked out of rooting in case the coming update f*ed our phones like their previous one did.
Root now. Been rooted since the day after I bought the device and absolutely no problems for me.
drdiatom said:
I've heard rumors that Verizon will be sending over the air (OTA) updates around July 6 or July 7.
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where did u read about ota on july 6/7??
Don't be surprised if Verizon delays the OTA and extends the free mobile hotspot yet again. I say root.
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only thing that sucks is that rootiong on the thunderbolt requires wiping your phone= setting up the damn phone again...
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only thing that sucks is that rootiong on the thunderbolt requires wiping your phone= setting up the damn phone again...
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Honestly, its the downgrade you have to do that sucks. I really don't want to start zombies vs plants all over.
Gnoop said:
Ah right. Brain not fully functional today. I was thinking of the supposed Gingerbread OTA rumors floating around.
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It is very possible that the Gingerbread does in fact silently bring the hotspot removal update as well. Seeing as how they were promised around the same time period this sounds to be true.
DRGilroy said:
2. Rooted phones running custom ROMs don't receive OTA updates.
3. An unrooted phone that receives the next OTA update may or may not have to wait for a new rooting method.
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2. Correction: Rooted phones still recieve OTA updates but under no circumstance should you accept the update; always cancel or you will not be able to boot your OS again.
3. According to the root method for the Thunderbolt posted by jcase, it doesn't matter what update you're on because during the root process you fully downgrade to a pre-stock RUU. A new unsupported update will not affect this and you will always be able to use that root method no matter what update you are on.
PhillyCheez said:
Honestly, its the downgrade you have to do that sucks. I really don't want to start zombies vs plants all over.
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During the root method by jcase that last part of the process is that you reupdate to a rooted stock ROM. And I also confirmed that you can even flash the rooted MR2 update as well (currently the latest update for the Thunderbolt of which I am personally using right now).
I highly suggest rooting the phone before the updates.
I personally love having purchased System App Remover from the Market. $2 for a fantastic App back-up and a seamless app remover.
I use it to remove bloatware or other silly apps that sometimes are put on ROMs or added tweaks.
Seriously couldn't be happier since I rooted my phone.
I would would always root before OTA, sometimes am update makes it hard to root again for a while.
Also I don't know how CWR works on this phone but on all my old devices it would automatically block OTA updates.
altimax98 said:
I would would always root before OTA, sometimes am update makes it hard to root again for a while.
Also I don't know how CWR works on this phone but on all my old devices it would automatically block OTA updates.
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It still does
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I bought a new nexus s yesterday. It is currently working on android 2.3.3
there's no notification for any updates yet. and the system updates show that the software is "up to date". What should i do?? Is something wrong with the phone if it isn't showing any notifications for updates?? kindly respond soon =)
Try turning on wi-fi and manually checkin by dialing *#*#2432546#*#*
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I bought a new nexus s yesterday. It is currently working on android 2.3.3
there's no notification for any updates yet. and the system updates show that the software is "up to date". What should i do?? Is something wrong with the phone if it isn't showing any notifications for updates?? kindly respond soon =)
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The update is paused till they fix problems
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But 2.3.3 isn't the latest update. Shouldn't the phone be giving me notifications to update to the latest available version? like 2.3.6 maybe?
Simply root your phone and choose any rom you like. No need to wait for an update.
I bought my phone 26the December, I kept checking for update never got one then I read post it will only update to latest one since they have stopped it temporary u will either have to root/ do it manually or just wait
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The update strategy of google is really confusing :
No dates, no indication, no explanations why they stopped OTA. The most surprising thing to me is : why stopping 2.3.6 OTA while the problem is about the 4.0.3 version?
Its for a couple of days m8 most people would be hacked of if they had to update there fine every to minutes
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easiest solution, and you dont have to wait on anybody.. update manually. there are links to all the android versions, available to the nexus s, posted here in xda. and you dont need root to update an official stock rom with an official stock rom.
simms22 said:
easiest solution, and you dont have to wait on anybody.. update manually. there are links to all the android versions, available to the nexus s, posted here in xda. and you dont need root to update an official stock rom with an official stock rom.
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yeah defenitely !
Fortunately we have all we need here in xda
emi133 said:
I bought a new nexus s yesterday. It is currently working on android 2.3.3
there's no notification for any updates yet. and the system updates show that the software is "up to date". What should i do?? Is something wrong with the phone if it isn't showing any notifications for updates?? kindly respond soon =)
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Updating manually will solve your problem. Just make sure that the model of is same as your Nexus S since there's 3 types of Nexus S and they all use different radio...
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simms22 said:
easiest solution, and you dont have to wait on anybody.. update manually. there are links to all the android versions, available to the nexus s, posted here in xda. and you dont need root to update an official stock rom with an official stock rom.
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You mean, i doswnload official OTA ICS and flash via recovery, no need to unlock a bootloader?
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No need to unlock bootloader if you're flashing stock ROM
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If you want to go stock(no root, no unlocked bootloader, no custom recovery) wouldn't recommend updating to ICS OTA, since there is that battery drain bug, that has yet to be fixed.
Also downgrading back to GB is quite tricky, if not imposible without unlocking the phone.
there's no bug, they just paused it, you can download it from here and just rename it and flash through the stock recovery!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
But why to flash if there is a battery bug for most of people. You got to be lucky.
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I have two 9020t updated to 4.0.3 and both are battery bug-free. I had the official update OTA on one and manual update in the other ( missed the OTA because I was tinkering with the first one). I jumped from 2.3.3 to 4.0.3 when I got the OTA
I haven't had a problem
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There's a bit more battery consumption,but nothing to worry about...
Hi,
I Just purchased a nexus 5, which I rooted using CF-AutoRoot. Can I still apply OTA updates in the future? If yes, can I install CWM and still get OTA updates? I wont be changing the rom, or kernel. Just wanted root access for certain apps
Thanks
Hi,
All you need is here: [INFO] Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk (should be a sticky thread).
And Question thread goes in Q&A forum, not in General forum
I short, if you change anything, you can't update via OTA
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mtanti95 said:
Hi,
I Just purchased a nexus 5, which I rooted using CF-AutoRoot. Can I still apply OTA updates in the future? If yes, can I install CWM and still get OTA updates? I wont be changing the rom, or kernel. Just wanted root access for certain apps
Thanks
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In the superSU app settings you can set/check survival mode for when installing an OTA. You should remain rooted after installing the OTA. If you have CWM you cannot install the OTA in the regular way. See post above OTA Helpdesk.
Hello guys, i rooted my device like 3 months ago and i felt like it really disabled my OTA update. Whenever i checked for such, it always says my system is the latest version. My question is, HOW DO I KNOW IF MY OTA UPDATE IS STILL WORKING OR NOT? I've searched for answers for like days. I think maybe its time to ask for answers here.
Your replies are well appreciated. Thanks in advance. :cheers:
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ota is for stock only
CrazeXDA said:
Hello guys, i rooted my device like 3 months ago and i felt like it really disabled my OTA update. Whenever i checked for such, it always says my system is the latest version. My question is, HOW DO I KNOW IF MY OTA UPDATE IS STILL WORKING OR NOT? I've searched for answers for like days. I think maybe its time to ask for answers here.
Your replies are well appreciated. Thanks in advance. :cheers:
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if you've just got a rooted stock then when you do ota you lose root access, if you got a custom rom forget about ota altogether, rooted users are supposed to update their firmware/rom manually through custom recovery or flashing software(such as odin) always keep a couple backups around, be it nandroid or titanium bakups, now there are some apps out there that say they'll let you keep root after ota but i do not know how well they work, if you've just got a rooted stock, go back to stock, update to latest version, enable usb debugging, and use kingo on your pc(google it) for hassle free 2 second rooting process that works on just about any android device, and wouldnt take mor ethan 2 seconds to do again if you lose root after OTA next time
CrazeXDA said:
Hello guys, i rooted my device like 3 months ago and i felt like it really disabled my OTA update. Whenever i checked for such, it always says my system is the latest version. My question is, HOW DO I KNOW IF MY OTA UPDATE IS STILL WORKING OR NOT? I've searched for answers for like days. I think maybe its time to ask for answers here.
Your replies are well appreciated. Thanks in advance. :cheers:
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no you cant have a OTA update because youre running a custom rom.. mostly only stock rom and kernels can run OTA.
pls. take time to read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603064
pinkLeviosa said:
no you cant have a OTA update because youre running a custom rom.. mostly only stock rom and kernels can run OTA.
pls. take time to read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603064
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Well yeah, i forgot to say im running on a stock rom!
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elanimal1234 said:
if you've just got a rooted stock then when you do ota you lose root access, if you got a custom rom forget about ota altogether, rooted users are supposed to update their firmware/rom manually through custom recovery or flashing software(such as odin) always keep a couple backups around, be it nandroid or titanium bakups, now there are some apps out there that say they'll let you keep root after ota but i do not know how well they work, if you've just got a rooted stock, go back to stock, update to latest version, enable usb debugging, and use kingo on your pc(google it) for hassle free 2 second rooting process that works on just about any android device, and wouldnt take mor ethan 2 seconds to do again if you lose root after OTA next time
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Thats specifically my problem. I dont know if i can still update to latest version now. I updated this to latest version before i rooted it. I've waited for like a week for a new update but then theres none, so there i was, i rooted my device. I wanna know if i can still update to latest version even though im rooted now.
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Well yeah, i forgot to say im running on a stock rom!
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Well im sorry ok? I thought your using a pacman rom because of yor signature...
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when you're not sure, back up and start all over
CrazeXDA said:
Thats specifically my problem. I dont know if i can still update to latest version now. I updated this to latest version before i rooted it. I've waited for like a week for a new update but then theres none, so there i was, i rooted my device. I wanna know if i can still update to latest version even though im rooted now.
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well if you just rooted, no custom rom, then the software that handles OTA must still be there, however, depending the method you used, the OTA might not work anymore or even be disabled on purpose so that you do not lose root upon update, simply, backup, flash back to a regular stock, then use kingo, then do an OTA after root to check if it works, then once you're certain your phone works fine and has OTA, restore your apps, data, contacts, and settings from your backup(make sure you backed all those up of course) as well as your sdcard and/or internal memory files, back those up too since depending on what flashing software you use or how you **** up(it's normal we all do it ) you may delete its contents, and there you should have a rooted stock phone that has OTA and you can root back after rly quick and easy.....
I saw on the Internet that KitKat 4.4.4 with security bug fixes has been launched only for nexus 5 through OTA but when I check for updates, the phone says your system is up to date. I'm running stock android 4.4.3 unrooted. Why is this happening? Any help regarding this?
P.S. - I don't want to update using factory images. Only using OTA. Want to know why my phone is unable to get the update.
Thank you
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sagarbhathwar said:
I saw on the Internet that KitKat 4.4.4 with security bug fixes has been launched only for nexus 5 through OTA but when I check for updates, the phone says your system is up to date. I'm running stock android 4.4.3 unrooted. Why is this happening? Any help regarding this?
P.S. - I don't want to update using factory images. Only using OTA. Want to know why my phone is unable to get the update.
Thank you
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They roll out in stages. You'll have to be patient or check out the ota help in the general forum and download the ota zip
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Floating around here are stock 4.4.4 zips you can flash.
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Don't worry. I've not received it either. Google sucks with updates and gives absolutely no change log or support. Apple walks all over them in this area. I've read it may take two to three weeks for everyone to get it.
Evo_Shift said:
Don't worry. I've not received it either. Google sucks with updates and gives absolutely no change log or support. Apple walks all over them in this area. I've read it may take two to three weeks for everyone to get it.
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and thats why on update day at apple it takes 12+ hrs for the update to download because their servers are hammered.
pick your poison.
I'd definitely take the staged rollout. No question. Then again, I never wait for an ota. There are plenty of other options available if you're not patient enough to wait. Even waiting for the ota, you'll still get the update before most other devices. Some won't get it at all. Wait, or go a different route. Simple.
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I don't understand why people who are so desperate for the update don't just install a custom recovery and flash the zip.
Or just adb sideload like a savage.
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