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Left T-Mobile for Verizon, Now the Jokes on Me

Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.

Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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That's why I left Verizon and went to tmobile lol.
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Jirv311 said:
The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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It is a different notification, not the connected one. It will ask you to connect even if wifi is off from what I understand. (I may be wrong on that)
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Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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If you are within 14 days of activating the phone, you should be able to just cancel without any penalty according to this link:
http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/bestnetwork/overview.html
This look like an older page, but it mentions a 30 day money back guarantee:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/slpconsumer/

I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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No one will cancel your unlimited plan. All u need is to go read FAQ on vzw site.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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Yeah, I understand that but my days of traveling outside of the USA are over. I have zero plans for any international travel these days so in my case the LTE route made the most sense.

Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.

GrkEngineer said:
I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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ZServ said:
Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.
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Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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jgalan14 said:
I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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I sincerely hope that Tmo improves in the area of updating devices for you with the S3.
I'm an original Galaxy S owner (Vibrant on Tmo) and they completely abandoned it within 9 months of release. The Vibrant is the ONLY Galaxy S that was never officially updated to Gingerbread, and the GPS on this device has never worked properly.
I'm running an ICS rom on my Vibrant these days, but it still has it's idiosyncrasies that are annoying as hell.
The ironic thing is that I chose the Verizon S3 because I thought I'd be getting the "common" US version of the phone. As it turns out it's more of an oddball than the rest. sigh.
My great hope is that the stock version of the phone runs so well that I really won't care if I can't reflash it. I am also quite confident that we'll get an official version of Jellybean so I'm not feeling completely hopeless about the situation.

cwalker29 said:
Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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Haha, no matter. I'm facepalming myself at how much Verizon has screwed up this launch. Delaying the phone, shipping them seemingly randomly, the locked bootlauncher, and the bugged 4g. Verizon's made a huge mess of this launch and I'm sure it'll lead to some blushing and "please love us please?" treatment.

Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...

chronos7 said:
Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...
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The complicating factor in my situation is that my wife switched with me, and she got the Droid 4 which she really likes (being the type that just HAS to have a hardware keyboard).
I'm probably going to have to stay put for now.
If the stock S3 runs smoothly and we are able to root and "fix" the wifi notification thing, I'll be satisfied for now.

Sad face... SORRY DUDE.
I'm a little fed up with T-mobile myself, and I've been with them since they were VOICESTREAM... so a LOOONG TIME. Up until June 2011 my 4 lines all had the $2.99 unlimited data (no 3g/4g)+30 mms deal... We were contract free for YEARS AND YEARS. Unlimited everything, blah blah blah... using iPhone's on edge so 3g/4g didn't matter... (still using iphones btw, except me - now trying the gs3). Then with the rumors of the AT&T merger in June 2011, I decided to lock in to a contract thinking I would get UNLIMITED data on AT&T for whatever the t-mobile price was ($20 for unlimited data, with the first 2gb at 4g? or something like that- whatever the promotion was)... At the time (6/2011) I didn't buy any new handsets even though all 4 lines qualified for full upgrade, because we all have iPhone 4's... I was told that IF/WHEN I wanted to buy a handset I could at full upgrade price *WITHOUT* re-extending that contract...
WELL - Guess what, NOPE. If I buy phones NOW, I have to re-sign for another 2 years starting from the purchase date of the phone.... I complained, moaned, *****ed.... They don't care.
RIGHT NOW I'LL SAY: Come June 2012, I'm LEAVING T-mobile and NEVER LOOKING BACK. I can go to a pre-paid service, save money, get better service, high speed data, etc... That may change in 12 months, but we'll see.

I jumped from Verizon to t-mo simply because after having a thunderbolt, razr, and a gnex I know exactly how bad most everything with lte is on battery life. Now on t-mobile I'm getting 4+ hours of screen time and 23 meg d/l. Best of both world for me.

Just got a blaze and the next day T-Mobile blacklisted it.ANY BUYERS?

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Head on over to the dev section and PM any of the devs there that put anything like 'let me know the bugs as I don't own this phone' in any of their threads... I know erikmm could be interested - he left his somewhere and when he went back it was gone (that still sucks! yea it still bothers me ).
How much are you asking?

I'd also be interested... for a dev phone, or possibly a phone to pass on to erikmm. Price?

It's not blacklisted. lol. T-Mobile it still fully supporting it. Just no more OS upgrades. (Which we don't need anyways thanks to awesome devs.)

chjema said:
It's not blacklisted. lol. T-Mobile it still fully supporting it. Just no more OS upgrades. (Which we don't need anyways thanks to awesome devs.)
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T-Mobile blacklists IMEI of phones that have been declared lost and/or stolen.

putney said:
T-Mobile blacklists IMEI of phones that have been declared lost and/or stolen.
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Or one that the account has gone delinquent.
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Yea its definitely blacklisted..TMo confirmed there was nothing they can do,and the rep I talked to actually tried to help.apparently it isn't T-Mobile but Asurion that put it on the list..I need a new tmobile phone asap.because the USB port on my n1 is shot out so I'm left with no phone and a sim card with a year left on my contract.all I need to know is whether there is any way to reverse the blacklisting myself,through software or an app or something..I just don't want to waste my time searching for something I'm not gonna find..thanks a lot for replying:thumbup:
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Blacklists can't be circumvented. No chance what so ever. Sorry.
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Any buyers?whats a fair price?
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Free as it is unusable unless someone pays the bill owed!!! Maybe someone would buy it for a dev phone...

Racing19969 said:
Free as it is unusable unless someone pays the bill owed!!! Maybe someone would buy it for a dev phone...
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Worth about $20 - the eBay price for the screen.
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That sucks someone will sell a blacklisted phone without notifying the buyer...meh! N I am interested(thanks guys) but just started work yesterday and don't get paid til January so if anyone else wants it go ahead n make ur offers
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If helped don't be afraid to hit the thanks button it doesn't bite lol

I say donate! lol Would help out the community. Just saying

Still got this phone?
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Yes
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CaptainhowdY22 said:
Yes
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What's your price?
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Any luck selling the blaze?
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When they blacklist the IMEI, does it affect only T-mobile network or AT&T network too? Or any GSM networks, including MVNOs?

E107946 said:
When they blacklist the IMEI, does it affect only T-mobile network or AT&T network too? Or any GSM networks, including MVNOs?
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Both AT&T and TMobile have already activated the national device registry. That registry restricts any device reported as stolen from accessing any network. So the short answer: this phone is useless for anything more than a test phone or mp3 player.

as far as I know ericmm bought the phone to use as a dev phone.

Effective 1/26 unlocking your phone is illegal.

Must of you have seen this I'm sure, but fire those who haven't be careful!
http://www.google.com/m/search?q=un...s&sa=X&ei=kIQCUcPmJ6Xw0gGZjoGYDQ&ved=0CCsQqAI
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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/01/24/unlocking-cellphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/
Read this article.
only when the phone is new after you get a replacement phone it can be unlocked by the carrier still.
You can also still purchase unlocked phones directly too.

tjsooley said:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/01/24/unlocking-cellphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/
Read this article.
only when the phone is new after you get a replacement phone it can be unlocked by the carrier still.
You can also still purchase unlocked phones directly too.
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That still is too restrictive look how at&to has been about unlock codes for the skyrocket. The government is catering to big businesses again mainly because of their lack of understanding. You may be OK with it but once I own a device who the **** are you to tell me what I can and can't do to a device its just like cars man.
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mtdew said:
That still is too restrictive look how at&to has been about unlock codes for the skyrocket. The government is catering to big businesses again mainly because of their lack of understanding. You may be OK with it but once I own a device who the **** are you to tell me what I can and can't do to a device its just like cars man.
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I agree. I will never be purchasing a carrier phone anymore.

I just spoke to at&t Rep yesterday and they were not knowing anything about this.
Has anyone else talked with their carriers?
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tjsooley said:
I agree. I will never be purchasing a carrier phone anymore.
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It's hard at times to shell out 400 or 500 dollars initially although overall you'll be spending more on carrier plan.
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My thing is if you enact this law then carriers should be forced to offer the unlock code if bought outright at full price or after the price of the phone has been paid through your bills allowing people the option to terminate their service.
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mtdew said:
My thing is if you enact this law then carriers should be forced to offer the unlock code if bought outright at full price or after the price of the phone has been paid through your bills allowing people the option to terminate their service.
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Much agreed....
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Bit of clarification, unlocking without carrier permission is illegal. Unlocking by the carrier is not.
I guess the carriers would like to make more money and hold you hostage for the 2 yr contract. It's unfortunate, but this is reality of capitalism and big businesses.
I have a newer outlook on this now and I would have to agree to purchase unlocked device... Rather then buying phones that are discounted.
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Wow. This totally sucks. I guess I better buy all my phones unlocked now.

Since my job requires for me to travel to many different countries, I guess Nexus will be my next phone. I will be missing 4G speed whenever I go back in home.

White House Petition
There is a White House petition asking the Librarian of Congress to rescind the decision.
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
7,853 signed and 92,147 signatures needed by February 23rd for the White House to respond.

Signed, and shared for all 3 of my Facebook friends to sign.
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Holy sh!t!
This is some major bulsh!t!
Thank heavens i don't live in your dictature!

who cares anyway its only for new phones and they cant track us

Signed and shared to my Facebook with a little description to provide insight for the ones who don't understand the big picture.

intelxtreme said:
who cares anyway its only for new phones and they cant track us
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and only new phones that are carrier subsidized. If you pay full price for a carrier phone off contract they will still legally give you the unlock code or once you upgrade your phone after the 2 year mark. this also still doesn't effect factory unlocked phones like the SGS3 international and nexus 4 directly from google.

...all the while here in Canada it's just the opposite. Just read the news yesterday that CRTC is pushing for a new code for carriers, with more provisions for customer protection. And the carriers "are cooperating". Among the things to be included are requirements to clearly spell out unlocking fees in advance, and make it a rule to unlock phones on contract after 30 days. But the most interesting thing is that carriers will be required to unlock phones not on contract at no charge. Meaning that if you buy a locked phone off someone, the carrier will have to unlock it for you for free.
Glad I live in Canada...

re: unlocking can have a 5yr prison term and 1/2 million dollar fine
does any1 know what/who dafuk is the "Librarian of Congress", and do they have that kind of power
so i can buy a miltary style gun w/out a background check, but damn me if i unlock my phone, well not me as i dont live in the u.s.
damn those unlockers, they are a menace in the us

vincom said:
re: unlocking can have a 5yr prison term and 1/2 million dollar fine
does any1 know what/who dafuk is the "Librarian of Congress", and do they have that kind of power
so i can buy a miltary style gun w/out a background check, but damn me if i unlock my phone, well not me as i dont live in the u.s.
damn those unlockers, they are a menace in the us
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Don't bring in ar's because you know good and well that's all cosmetic there's nothing military about it.
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vincom said:
re: unlocking can have a 5yr prison term and 1/2 million dollar fine
does any1 know what/who dafuk is the "Librarian of Congress", and do they have that kind of power
so i can buy a miltary style gun w/out a background check, but damn me if i unlock my phone, well not me as i dont live in the u.s.
damn those unlockers, they are a menace in the us
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Let's not do this again.. LOL

Sprint blacklisted phone

I am looking at picking up a 2nd nexus for the wife on Craigslist. I can get a good deal on one but the guy is still paying on the payment plan. If he bails on his plan afterward would the phone still work on at&t and T-Mobile OK? I assume sprint would blacklist it and I don't really care about that.

No, the carriers share the black list.
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yup, in the us, and canada it seems, the providers share the same blacklist.

Buy a legitimate phone, or you'll likely end up with a pretty ornament. ?

KJ said:
Buy a legitimate phone, or you'll likely end up with a pretty ornament. ?
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Or you could move.. But by then you could probably buy multiple devices instead lol

whats your carrier and why pick it

i currently have verizon. i feel like its pretty good and the 4g works in alot of diffrent locations. i had sprint before, but i feel like the internet on verizon is better. plus i get less dropped calls on verizon. only down side is the price, i feel like verizon is over priced.
what do you guys have? what do you like and dislike about your carrier?

Personally I have 2 separate lines. One for work one for personal. My work line is through Selectel, who provides post-paid service (with no 4g yet but will soon), a corporate store location, and actually tells me what I am getting (Vs having Straight Talk for years and being lied to) My personal phone is with Verizon, an S4 as you saw in my last post) which is ok but for what I use I could switch this line to Selectel and save some money. Although, I have heard some bad things about their dealers. Selectel does have promise if they can keep their prices down when the do go 4g.

Phurkus said:
i currently have verizon. i feel like its pretty good and the 4g works in alot of diffrent locations. i had sprint before, but i feel like the internet on verizon is better. plus i get less dropped calls on verizon. only down side is the price, i feel like verizon is over priced.
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Verizon wireless work hard to make our phones not Root-able and that's why i hate them!

Newyork! said:
Verizon wireless work hard to make our phones not Root-able and that's why i hate them!
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i didnt know this. it was pretty easy rooting my phone. maybe it will be harder next time

Phurkus said:
i didnt know this. it was pretty easy rooting my phone. maybe it will be harder next time
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It is easy after Devs do all the hard work for us. +100000 props to all the Devs out there for all of the hard work. If you buy an s4 new you cannot unlock the bootloader which sucks!
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Illogi.xbone said:
It is easy after Devs do all the hard work for us. +100000 props to all the Devs out there for all of the hard work. If you buy an s4 new you cannot unlock the bootloader which sucks!
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mad props to them!! thanks for the info mate!

When they could be out drinking they are here helping all of us
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I use T-Mobile. I mainly chose them due to price. Yeah, their coverage isn't as robust as say, Verizon, but the cost is significantly less. And for the most part I'm satisfied with the service. I have had to reach out to their tech support and found them responsive.
I was using a regional carrier prior to switching to T-Mobile. That was the worst experience ever. That carrier ended up selling out to Verizon who basically just scuttled the carrier to get the bandwidth. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.