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Well I switched to S-OFF to get a new splash screen and now I can no longer install OTA updates for my Hero. I get a signature failure every time I try to install. Does anyone know how to switch this back on? I didn't realize this would kill the ability to do updates as the forums I have read before switching didn't have any mention of it.
Sorry if this has been previously posted and I missed it in the forums.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
awnorwood said:
Well I switched to S-OFF to get a new splash screen and now I can no longer install OTA updates for my Hero. I get a signature failure every time I try to install. Does anyone know how to switch this back on? I didn't realize this would kill the ability to do updates as the forums I have read before switching didn't have any mention of it.
Sorry if this has been previously posted and I missed it in the forums.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The signature failure isn't from s-off it's from the custom recovery. What you need to do is to resign the zip.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Just an added note, as far as I know, you can't switch back to S-ON on this
device, at least, not at the moment.. If they get S-ON to work on these phones,
good, but if not, I'm not overly concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759955
and
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
for details..
Asadullah said:
The signature failure isn't from s-off it's from the custom recovery. What you need to do is to resign the zip.
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Not sure I'm understanding the question. But, if he means receiving updates directly from Sprint then they don't come as zip files. So, how would signing anything help him?
Not sure why you would want to download something from Sprint directly anyway. Whenever an update comes out, they're usually packaged and ready for you to flash via custom recovery by the end of the day if not sooner.
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Not sure I'm understanding the question. But, if he means receiving updates directly from Sprint then they don't come as zip files. So, how would signing anything help him?
Not sure why you would want to download something from Sprint directly anyway. Whenever an update comes out, they're usually packaged and ready for you to flash via custom recovery by the end of the day if not sooner.
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The ota (over the air) updates that sprint pushes out and you download are stored in an update zip in /cache then when you choose to install them they are flashed through the stock recovery... but if you don't have the stock recovery you will have to pull the update from your device resign it and then flash it through custom recovery. Also they won't work on anything but a stock or close to stock rom because of the checks it does in the update scripts and most of everything inside is .p files (patch).
I should know because I took the second to last sprint update rooted it and posted it on here. You can actually test this theory by running the ruu rooting it and then when you get an update download it but don't install it right away. You'll find it in /cache (I believe forgotten exactly) or just take my word for it.
If you do do it like that I suggest the original 2.1 ruu just because you'll get your original radio back in the process
Asadullah said:
The ota (over the air) updates that sprint pushes out and you download are stored in an update zip in /cache then when you choose to install them they are flashed through the stock recovery... but if you don't have the stock recovery you will have to pull the update from your device resign it and then flash it through custom recovery. Also they won't work on anything but a stock or close to stock rom because of the checks it does in the update scripts and most of everything inside is .p files (patch).
I should know because I took the second to last sprint update rooted it and posted it on here. You can actually test this theory by running the ruu rooting it and then when you get an update download it but don't install it right away. You'll find it in /cache (I believe forgotten exactly) or just take my word for it.
If you do do it like that I suggest the original 2.1 ruu just because you'll get your original radio back in the process
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Good information to know. Thanks Asadullah.
I am poking around the latest official OTA update (get it here).
I am trying to see if there is anything useful for aftermarket roms. I will post
here my findings, if any, and all the questions that pop to my mind. Hopefully
someone in the community will have answers.
The updating script does the following:
1) several checks on bootloader/recovery/cid/device version
2) copy fotaBoot to /data/system/fotaBoot to trigger some changes at reboot
3) checks on files to be patched
4) delete several files from /data (notably adio_checksum, DxDr,
SuplRootCert_injected)
5) delete lots of files form /system
6) apply patches
7) copy files into /system
8) set permissions
9) flash firmware.zip via
Code:
write_firmware_image("PACKAGE:firmware.zip", "zip");
Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw). I do not have them on my system (I run CM7) and I have no idea
which piece of hardware they refer to. There is also an app whose purpose I
ignore (HTC-DPM-GB-2.3-48637-11.1.apk) and a mysterious recovery.img in /system
(more on this later).
Does anyone know the exact procedure by which firmware.zip is flashed? Will any
check be performed on it? Its content is the following:
* android-info.txt: ASCII file with some version numbers.
* boot.img: should be the new kernel+ramdisk; I tried booting it with few
expectations and indeed it wont boot with a non-sense /system
* hboot_8x60_DOT_1.45.0013_20111121_signedbyaa.nb0: the new bootloader; I see no
reason to flash this unless it provides some new features.
* radio.img: fat image with radio files (should be safe to flash)
* rcdata.img: ???
* recovery.img: this won't boot; may it require the above mentioned recovery.img?
Anyway this is completely useless
* rpm.img: ???
* sbl1.img: ???
* sbl2.img: ???
* sbl3.img: ???
* tz.img: ???
Anyone has ideas on what the other files are? I assume that if we avoid flashing
hboot we will always have fastboot available to us and S-OFF to flash anything
we would like to, correct? Revolutionary team can you please explain how you
make the phone S-OFF once your exploit gives you the right privileges? Will any
of those files affect it? Has anyone here any idea of which partitions should
they be flashed to?
As I said I tried to boot both recovery.img and boot.img to get a config.gz and
kernel version with scarce success. I'd like to see whether they made some modifications to the
kernel which improved battery life. I think I will repack the new kernel with
CWM recovery and get the info from there.
Ideas of things to poke at? Comments? Helpful insights?
Related info: here .
sbl*.img might be the boot loader. (secured/secondary boot loader???) but why in 3 separate chunks?
More info: here
rcdata.img is text; it should be the configuration of the radio but if I check the content of the corresponding partition (mmcblk0p18) on my phone there is a lot of binary junk together with the small amount of text. The options are the same except for one (AGPSNVSetting) that is missing in the updated rcdata.img
Code:
# cat /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 | strings | tail -n 9
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_VER=1
DisH=2
AGPSNVSetting=1
EnDTM=0
MSCMode=10
HSDPACat=10
HSUPACat=6
GEA3=0
QCT_UMTS_RADIO_END=1
I know probably the biggest request from the community is to figure out how to root the update; it seems that the Rev. team has been notified that the exploit they used before seems to have been patched in this update.
Also very profitable would probably be zips for the new kernel and radio, if possible. Early reports have indeed been of better battery life, and also higher quadrant scores.
Anyway, many thanks for this thread, and for looking at the update
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Among the files being modified there are a couple of firmwares (yamato_pfp.fw
yamato_pm4.fw).
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Just a shot in the dark, but Yamato is refered to here:
http://code.google.com/p/synergy-ki.../system/etc/adreno_config.txt?spec=svn41&r=41
It seems to have something to do with the adreno chipset...
There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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Litesorrows said:
There's a Pre Rooted Version of the OTA Update on Rootzwiki. I would imagine those on XDA would be rooted all ready. I understand trying to find a way to Root the OTA Update for those who had it before they could root. But wouldn't a simple Temp Root, then Downgrade work? That's what I had to do with my G2 and G1.
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the version on Rootzwiki isn't the newest update, the one that just came out 3 days ago. and the newest update has proven impervious even to temp-root so far. the only way to downgrade is if you were S-OFF before updating. there is a thread on this in the general section.....
If you updated, please view this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405859
I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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Blue6IX said:
I had pulled the new google talk app and made it flashable on request, here's the link:
Gtalk update
There are a couple others if anyone wants them - deskclock, wifi calling, t-mo mall and carbon backup, netflix, and two logging utilities.
The rest is all small updates to a lot - what I wanted to look into first were the GPS updates to make sure my patch stays as current as possible.
You can either pull apart the package directly, or flash the update and do an adb pull to grab new stuff - backup guide in my sig tells you all about using the adb pull command.
Now that we know you can rewind the changes and get root back after the update, either should be fine. I've been going through the download zip, but haven't had much time at my workstation.
I have a couple emergency shifts to work, kept me offline yesterday & today, I'll check back on a break later and see if I have anything else to add.
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could i get deskclock, wifi calling, and netflix
Yamato is gpu proprietary files. U would use them in a compile against source code for the improvements. I would say kernel fixes would be the main thing if reports are better quadrant and battery life
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I flashed the t-mobile signed stock rom PP59IMG.zip through the bootloader then proceeded to download the OTA's. After that I placed the new recovery image in the appropriate place and rebooted bootloader to prepare pushing the recovery through fastboot. What I noticed is that even after installing the OTA in a unrooted totally stock rom, S-off remains, however where "revolutionary" once was written now displays "**Locked**" , so apparently HTC has managed to relock the bootloader even though it shows S-off. It's not totally locked, as I had to reflash the PP59IMG.zip to downgrade hboot again so that I could reuse the revolutionary tool to flash the 4.0.0.8 recovery, then install CWM to update the recovery. As long as "Locked" was sitting where "revolutionary" normally is, I found it impossible to use fastboot, so my guess is security remains off but fastboot is locked. Just my guess anyway.
Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.
monakh said:
Where did you get the stock/signed T-Mo PP59IMG.zip? Can't find it anywhere here. Thanks.
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yogi2010 said:
sure Blue, it is pretty much the usual...
To undo the update/restore the stock firmware that came with the phone:
(Note: this will only work if you are still S-OFF even tho you have the new HBOOT version. If you are S-ON with the new HBOOT, then at this time there is no known way to revert... hopefully we can get the devs. of Revolutionary, etc, to update the root methods. Also, if you want to update just to check it out, make sure to turn S-OFF first if you'd like to give yourself the option to revert later.)
1. Download the stock firmware package from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178082
2. Rename it PG59IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard.
3. Boot into the bootloader('adb reboot bootloader' or power down the phone then hold volume down + power), let it read the update package, and press 'volume up' to update when prompted.
4. At the end it will prompt you to press Power to reboot. It scared me because when i pressed Power, the screen went off and seemed to not come back on, so i pressed power once again, and it booted into the system.
That's it! Just remember that if you do this, it will of course erase all your data... your phone will be like it was out of the box.
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I'm not sure if this helps anyone, but here is the boot.img taken from my nandroid of the newest OTA ROM:
http://db.tt/GHfzWNIj
come to think of it, looks like you might already have this in the OTA zip... although this one is a bigger file...
Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?
Sinfamy said:
Two questions:
1. How do you flash this update? When I click the HTC Update, it gave me the ~5MB update, however not the ~40MB one. So is there a way to manually flash it?
2. Is there a way to doing so without loosing the recovery and root?
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You can download the update and run it manually. I can't remember if I renamed it update.zip and flashed it through stock recovery or used the bootloader.
If it was the bootloader, rename the downloaded zip to PG59IMG.zip, put it on the root of your sdcard and boot into the bootloader. The device's screen should prompt you with install instructions.
As for keeping root and recovery, no. As long as you are S-OFF *before* doing this, however, you can re-flash a custom recovery and re-root using these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433805
Yeah, the update flashed nicely thru the stock recovery. I learned once you get to the recovery screen, you press volume up + power to get the options to show up.
I have an unlocked xperia z3 d6603 I bought brand new in january I believe. I just today rooted and installed recovery but am stuck on the 23.0A.2.93 tft rom which it shippped with. It would have normally been running unrooted the latest rom from sony which was just pushed out a couple months ago. I'm in california and need a rooted d6603 generic global rom, or even unrooted, and I can't seem to find the down link here. In xpreifirm 3.6a latest, I keep getting a java error so can't use that and I've already uninstalled and installed the latest 64bit java8 update 40. I was going to just flash it with the moonwalker rom but it days I need to be on a different tft altogether. Any help here would be appreciated. I have installed a firewall, changed dns servers, and uninstalled a few things using rom toolbox. Hoping to just update it to the recent tft or even better, a working custom rom which won't mess up the default phone capabilities. I'm on kitkat 4.4.4, at&t lte, rom 23.0.A.2.93
Again I need a rooted global generic 577 tft for a z3, a nonrooted one, or even better, a custom one I can just flash to it so I can get back to my life.
since you have a working recovery just flash this one 23-0-1-5-77-deodexed-zipaligned it's the latest KK
ps: I'm on AT&T in CA as well and running that firmware just fine for a while now, it's generic global so no worries...
awesome. THANKS. Gonna try it now. Been at it all day from like 10am to about 5 when I had to break
How do you flash a zip file
tweker said:
awesome. THANKS. Gonna try it now. Been at it all day from like 10am to about 5 when I had to break
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I rebooted with TWRP in recovery mode, reset device (Wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache), saw no way of flashing from recovery mode. Shut phone off. Plugged in in flash mode with the zip file in the firmwares folder and it was not recognized by flash tool. Where are the directions for flashing a zip?
Choose the second option in recovery
Install custom zip
I used NDR to reboot into recovery. The zip was on both internal and external at root. First time I selected the one from internal and it gave no errors. Wiped cache and rebooted and still on stock 93. Did the exact same thing again choosing zip on sd card and it still says 93. Third time I did it from sd card but no cache wipe. Still on23.0.A.2.93. WTF???
Where can I find a working ftf. NDR doesn't work for ****. BTW, phone is setup in dev mode with mock, airplane mode etc with supersu free working. I think
BTW, why in the hell does the thread with all the roms not have any current ones???? rooted or not
What for are you trying to flash? Please provide a link.
What does the recovery log say? It really helps if you tell us this.
FTF files are geberally not uploaded anymore as it is very easy to download any you want from the sony servers and create your own FTF using flashtool and Xperia firm.
Ps, it may be nice to watch your language. The issue is not NDR, it works fine.
I'm using D6603_23.0.1.A.5.77_deodex.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/deodex-23-0-1-5-77-deodexed-zipaligned-t3015178 on top of D6603_23.0.A.2.93_Generic_20GLOBAL.ftf which was rooted and dual recovered. I have flashed the above 5.77 zip file like 5 times from recovery mode and still on 93. This last time I noticed I had no file mgr. Installed es, mounted system rw like it says to do after root, reflashed the 77 deodexed zip, wiped dalvik and cache, reupdated supersu zip in recovery, rebooted, and stil on93. What am I doing wrong? Is there not a dern ftf file I can use instead? OR, should and could I just wait for another official update?
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I'm using D6603_23.0.1.A.5.77_deodex.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/deodex-23-0-1-5-77-deodexed-zipaligned-t3015178 on top of D6603_23.0.A.2.93_Generic_20GLOBAL.ftf which was rooted and dual recovered. I have flashed the above 5.77 zip file like 5 times from recovery mode and still on 93. This last time I noticed I had no file mgr. Installed es, mounted system rw like it says to do after root, reflashed the 77 deodexed zip, wiped dalvik and cache, reupdated supersu zip in recovery, rebooted, and stil on93. What am I doing wrong? Is there not a dern ftf file I can use instead? OR, should and could I just wait for another official update?
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That is not a ROM file, it does not contain a ROM. It just deodex's your system files if you are on that firmware.
And, No, there is not a FTF you can flash that is rooted. FTF files have to be completely stock as we cannot sign them with Sony's keys as we do not know them. The only way to flash something rooted is via recovery
Post#2 told me I could flash the zip over and it would work. No wonder it doesn't work because it doesn't do anything. I don't want to unlock boot because I may fail official updates. I really just want to update to a working global generic 77 rooted dual recovered system. So basically even if I had the official 77, unrooted, I still couldn't use (nor root) it right? Thanks for the help. I at least know to go another route.
tweker said:
Post#2 told me I could flash the zip over and it would work. No wonder it doesn't work because it doesn't do anything. I don't want to unlock boot because I may fail official updates. I really just want to update to a working global generic 77 rooted dual recovered system. So basically even if I had the official 77, unrooted, I still couldn't use (nor root) it right? Thanks for the help. I at least know to go another route.
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Post #2 is wrong. Also the thread stated in the first line that a requirement for that to work is that you are already on .77 firmware.
There is no need to unlock your boot.
Just flash a .77 prerooted ROM.
If you cannot find one then make one yourself. Follow the guide in the thread called PRFCreator (Just google it)
Once you have the files downloaded it takes 7 minutes and it is all automated for you
Thank You Very Much. At present I have access to two pc's. One is my roomies (win8.1) and mine (win7). My roomies has some sort of java issue and xperifirm fails right when you click the file you want. Tried fixing java didn't work. Mine is wireless, dns disabled, mac changed, hosts file, and tiny wall fw. Experifrm says no net access even though it works fine. Tried a cable and for the life of me got the same error (couldn't quite reconfigure it to work correctly-pita). If I ever get the file I will do the prfcreator magic, and I'm assuming, flash it through ndr tools in recovery mode. In the mean, I might request an xda user in another thread to grab one for me and post it. Should help lots of people not just me. Again, thank you for your help, saved a lot of hair pulling.
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Thank You Very Much. At present I have access to two pc's. One is my roomies (win8.1) and mine (win7). My roomies has some sort of java issue and xperifirm fails right when you click the file you want. Tried fixing java didn't work. Mine is wireless, dns disabled, mac changed, hosts file, and tiny wall fw. Experifrm says no net access even though it works fine. Tried a cable and for the life of me got the same error (couldn't quite reconfigure it to work correctly-pita). If I ever get the file I will do the prfcreator magic, and I'm assuming, flash it through ndr tools in recovery mode. In the mean, I might request an xda user in another thread to grab one for me and post it. Should help lots of people not just me. Again, thank you for your help, saved a lot of hair pulling.
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Sorry about the confusion, indeed the first link that I provided was just a patch to deodex your room (I always use deodex so I can mod my rom)....anyway you can use this one it's a generic prerooted .77 from the z3 android development section in this forum, then you can patch it with the other one if you have the need to...just follow the instructions in this link and you should be on your way
Again sorry about that first post, I rooted my phone the minute root was available on locked bootloader so it's been some time now
I have been to that link. The only one I can see that says generic global is the 23.0.A.2.93 one. The others say, Generic_DE, Generic_NCB, or Generic_AU. Which looks to me like Deutch, Generic Nordic?, and Australian? Since I speak english and am nowhere near any of those places, I did not touch them. Which one is safe to use and will there be any post config for my locale and radios?? Plus I have no clue what the purpose is of de-odexing the file system (flashing that zip) does. I still have read write issues with apk's I install when I tell them to use my 128gb sd card. I did recover my setup prior to the zip flash you pointed me to which I still have-thank you.
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I have been to that link. The only one I can see that says generic global is the 23.0.A.2.93 one. The others say, Generic_DE, Generic_NCB, or Generic_AU. Which looks to me like Deutch, Generic Nordic?, and Australian? Since I speak english and am nowhere near any of those places, I did not touch them. Which one is safe to use and will there be any post config for my locale and radios?? Plus I have no clue what the purpose is of de-odexing the file system (flashing that zip) does. I still have read write issues with apk's I install when I tell them to use my 128gb sd card. I did recover my setup prior to the zip flash you pointed me to which I still have-thank you.
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1) its called a FTF file not a TFT file. It's a FlashTool File.
2) your sd write card issues are a feature of KK, and nothing to do with any error or bug to do with your phone. Just Google KK write to sd card to read more about it and how to circumnavigate this issue that was deliberately introduced by Google.
3) i have read some of the advice you have banded about in several of the thread here. Some of it is just plain wrong. Although not dangerous to anyones device it may be worth reading and learning a bit more first.
4) please stick to asking questions in just one thread, there is no need to ask in several thread because the first time you did not get an immediate answer
5) you can safely flash a FTF from any region as long as it is for the same model you have. Especially as you are only going to be on that version for a few minutes whilst you root them immediately upgrade.
Ok, great. I'll grab the de one. As for not trying to help; I put down what worked for me. If I don't know everything I can still give input with the little I know. That's how people learn, myself incl. I just got my pc running not two weeks ago so a little overwhelmed with having just rooted as well. Thanks very much for all your help.
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Ok, great. I'll grab the de one. As for not trying to help; I put down what worked for me. If I don't know everything I can still give input with the little I know. That's how people learn, myself incl. I just got my pc running not two weeks ago so a little overwhelmed with having just rooted as well. Thanks very much for all your help.
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No worries. I did not mean to imply that you should not help, only that you should be sure that what you are saying is in fact correct information.
We do all have to learn, but its hard to learn when incorrect information is posted and stated as "fact"
Greg
From install to booted took 4 min. Just had to update supersu and remove a few things. This is awesome! NDR Utils is worth paying for. Now I can finally encrypt my phone. TYSM
hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
OTA updates will require a stock recovery. I'm in the process of getting an Idol 3 but I used to have an Idol 2 and, to return to a completely stock ROM, I had to use the Alcatel Mobile upgrade too which identified my phone, downloaded the correct firmware, and restored the phone. Prior to restoring back to stock, I had cwm and root.
Thanks for the reply I tried the software update but its not working keep saying I have the latest even when I did a full wipe. Using the latest 4.9.2 version...is there a way to make a twrp flashable ota zip from the downloaded update file in the ota cache..
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hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
tekka-maki said:
mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Omfg buddy, you said, '... you CAN install an OTA update with twrp' ; all I did was point out that I flashed previous updates (presumably the same way you're talking about), TWRP remained in tact afterward, & asked you to follow through with that point with, you know, the actual update in question here that defies many of your assertions. One of your recommendations is broken (Q), the other is hindsight (full backup) & last (update via TWRP) seemingly not feasible (unless someone were to submit updated /system) . Anyway it's all a moot point now since we're just measuring our junk.
I'm tickled you're running 5.1.1, as you've said repeatedly... I tried it briefly on Shamu & was happy to leave the LP quagmire all together & get to 6.0.1. Sufficed to say, there isn't anything perfect about this device or 5.1.1, which is why I'll leave as is & sell it. :good:
Thanks anyway.
So... I unlocked the bootloader, but I haven't found a way to get root yet. There's no TWRP available, and I can't find a useable boot image. I tried to copy boot_a and boot_b using dd in an ADB shell, but all I got was "permission denied". There don't seem to be any stock images available, so I'm not sure where to get a boot image until there's an OTA update, but even then I might not be able to pull it from the data partition without root. Argh.
Also, Motorola has kernel source at https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm, but the last commit was over 2 months ago, and I can't find a default config for racer.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/racer/official/
Firmware for device
Thanks for that. I also found Lenovo's support app at https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds101291 (Lenovo owns Motorola.) Too tired to mess with this now. I'll try it later.
You can retrieve full ROM and boot.img from LMSA using rescue mode.
You can run rescue to update the ROM, observe the download process, copy the .zip once it reached 100% as well as retrieve boot
Copy boot.img to phone and patch with Magisk Manager, and copy back to host computer
Flash the patched boot
Make sure ADB is up to date
adb reboot fastboot
fastboot flash boot patched_boot.img
Yup, it's working now. Thanks all.
I have successfully rooted mine and having adaway installed
Can you install stock android 10 or even android 11 now?
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Since Motorola/Lenovo updated the Edge since this was first posted, I would like to add that coming across the boot image file is a bit more scarce than the original release version for the Edge. However, using Rescue and Smart Assistant, you can downoad the latest ROM version. You may now use the boot image file in the downloaded folder [ProgramData\Lenovo\Downloads\Roms] and use that for Magisk patching to attain root. However, since I am not sure how that EXACTLY works, I am worried about the resulting file size. Original file size is 101MB. Patched file size is 36MB. I am afraid to flash due to this. Another however, I use fastboot to boot the patched file directly and it DOES work, just unsure if there would be any problems with it if I FLASH it, instead. I believe I read in a related thread to Magisk and rooting, that it reduces the file size to remove unnecessary space now that it is patched? Can someone confirm how that works and if it is safe to flash? I really don't want to flash it, then come across a problem and have to flash stock boot image and end up running into some other problems all because I wanted to flash the patched file instead of using fastboot to boot every time I reboot. Thanks for any and all help, guys.
mingkee said:
I have successfully rooted mine and having adaway installed
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How did you get root?
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How did you get root?
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Magisk patched boot flashing method
TOOLBOYNIN39 said:
Since Motorola/Lenovo updated the Edge since this was first posted, I would like to add that coming across the boot image file is a bit more scarce than the original release version for the Edge. However, using Rescue and Smart Assistant, you can downoad the latest ROM version. You may now use the boot image file in the downloaded folder [ProgramData\Lenovo\Downloads\Roms] and use that for Magisk patching to attain root. However, since I am not sure how that EXACTLY works, I am worried about the resulting file size. Original file size is 101MB. Patched file size is 36MB. I am afraid to flash due to this. Another however, I use fastboot to boot the patched file directly and it DOES work, just unsure if there would be any problems with it if I FLASH it, instead. I believe I read in a related thread to Magisk and rooting, that it reduces the file size to remove unnecessary space now that it is patched? Can someone confirm how that works and if it is safe to flash? I really don't want to flash it, then come across a problem and have to flash stock boot image and end up running into some other problems all because I wanted to flash the patched file instead of using fastboot to boot every time I reboot. Thanks for any and all help, guys.
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Yes, my patched boot image is smaller too, but it works. I'm guessing the patched image is either sparse or truncated.
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Yes, my patched boot image is smaller too, but it works. I'm guessing the patched image is either sparse or truncated.
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That makes all the sense in the world to me. I flashed it and have been running it for a few days now without issue. Have my usual setup with Magisk, Riru-core, Riru EdXposed, and then GravityBox in EdXposed for the free customization. Only thing I couldn't get was Xblast module. Not compatible at all with Android Q. Only thing I need now is make the nav bar black all the time. Can't do it with GB since it doesn't have an option for that. Xblast had one but... oh well. Phone works nice aside from the occasional app that isn't compatible with edge enable/disable.
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https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/racer/official/
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WOW! You're a life savor, thank you!
I unlocked my bootloader through moto and downloaded the rom through lmsa and patched the boot img with magisk, then tried to flash it using adb but it put my phone into a boot loop.. can anyone help me out? this phone seems like a pain the ass to root* compared to the last one ive done (about 2 years ago)
edit: i think i found out what i did wrong, not renaming the patch file back to how it should be. and i patch the boot.img correct? or patch the recovery.img? getting conflicting guides
Make sure you flash boot.img in fastbootd
I'm curious of people's opinions of rooting this phone?
I just got mine yesterday, and I don't think I've ever not used rooted android all the way back to my first Android Eclair device over a decade ago now.
But here I find myself worried I'll have some of the display issues so I'm hesitant to root my device or request an unlock code while I'm in the 2 week return window because of the wording of the agreement once the code is used. It very explicitly absolves Moto of every possible responsibility for hardware faults under a blanket accusation that by unlocking the phone I must have broken it. And while I have no doubt the wording would crumple in court or whatever, I don't really want to go to court over a cell phone.
I rooted both my "send-ins". I am on my third and just going to accept the light green haze at low light. I rooted my first two and sent them in within a total of a month. First phone was on day 17. 2nd was about 6 or 7 days. That one was a turn around since it displayed the haze during setup. This third one shows it as well but I don't feel like doing the return and setup all over again. You shouldn't have to worry about the agreement since Lenovo/Motorola is not looking into that as this is a known hardware/software issue from factory.
Does this forum include the edge 5G? I have the US model(6/ram, 256GB). Does twrp still have that builder? There used to be something, to that, don't know if that's continued.
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Does this forum include the edge 5G? I have the US model(6/ram, 256GB). Does twrp still have that builder? There used to be something, to that, don't know if that's continued.
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Sorry to be a little late, but I am unsure of your question. This forum IS "Motorola Edge 5G". There is a separate forum under the name of "Motorola Edge+ 5G" for the more expensive version. If you are looking for TWRP for this phone, there never was a release. At least none that I had ever seen around here. I was always on the lookout for one and never came across one. The "plus" version of the phone does have a TWRP, however. Maybe that is the phone you have or at least the one you are confusing the TWRP with?