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[Q] Help with root on 4.4 with newest kernel

hello I'm not sure if there's any method it yet but I can't get any response on the Android forums so I've come here since I normally get good responses here. Anyways, I have the Verizon S3 under Verizon prepaid. It came pre-installed with 4.4 and a kernel of July 22, 2014. I had a phone before this one that was the same but it ran 4.3. I used towel root and it worked flawlessly. Now that I had returned the phone and got a new one due to one of my goofs. It came with 4.4 as I mentioned and the newer kernel. I tried towel root and it says it's not supported. I tried messing with the mod strings to no avail. So I have read it's from the newer kernel they put on the S3 that patched up the towel root exploit. So my question is, is there any other way at all that can root my device? It drives me crazy not having root. It's one of my habits in tinkering with things but can't do no tinkering on a non rooted device. So any help is appreciated.

bjf189 said:
hello I'm not sure if there's any method it yet but I can't get any response on the Android forums so I've come here since I normally get good responses here. Anyways, I have the Verizon S3 under Verizon prepaid. It came pre-installed with 4.4 and a kernel of July 22, 2014. I had a phone before this one that was the same but it ran 4.3. I used towel root and it worked flawlessly. Now that I had returned the phone and got a new one due to one of my goofs. It came with 4.4 as I mentioned and the newer kernel. I tried towel root and it says it's not supported. I tried messing with the mod strings to no avail. So I have read it's from the newer kernel they put on the S3 that patched up the towel root exploit. So my question is, is there any other way at all that can root my device? It drives me crazy not having root. It's one of my habits in tinkering with things but can't do no tinkering on a non rooted device. So any help is appreciated.
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You may be out of luck. You could try kingo root or another one but none of those may work either. VZW has found a way to patch the root exploits
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I thought that might be the case. I hope not though. I have tried towel root, kingo root, root master, srs root, framaroot, z4root. Anything with the app of rooting I've used and all failed. Please can someone have any solution? Thanks for the info though

bjf189 said:
I thought that might be the case. I hope not though. I have tried towel root, kingo root, root master, srs root, framaroot, z4root. Anything with the app of rooting I've used and all failed. Please can someone have any solution? Thanks for the info though
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You may of just tried every option. VZW always has to mess things up
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ShapesBlue said:
You may of just tried every option. VZW always has to mess things up
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Well I hope someone finds some exploit to use cause I hate having a nonrooted device. Takes the fun out of the phone

bjf189 said:
Well I hope someone finds some exploit to use cause I hate having a nonrooted device. Takes the fun out of the phone
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While I agree it takes a lot away from it not many people (devs specifically) are working on this anymore. Actually I don't think anyone really is at this point
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ShapesBlue said:
While I agree it takes a lot away from it not many people (devs specifically) are working on this anymore. Actually I don't think anyone really is at this point
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I wish someone had something for me lol. Some solution

bjf189 said:
I wish someone had something for me lol. Some solution
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I agree, although I'm nearly sure your out of luck
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ShapesBlue said:
I agree, although I'm nearly sure your out of luck
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Ok thanks anyways. If you ever come up with something, let me know though

bjf189 said:
Ok thanks anyways. If you ever come up with something, let me know though
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Alright, my S3 is unlocked though. I'm not a dev or anything
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ShapesBlue said:
Alright, my S3 is unlocked though. I'm not a dev or anything
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That's nice. My phone is locked down tight. My boot loader is all locked up as well. So mines quite the opposite lol

bjf189 said:
That's nice. My phone is locked down tight. My boot loader is all locked up as well. So mines quite the opposite lol
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Sadly your right. I highly doubt they will ever find an exploit
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ShapesBlue said:
Sadly your right. I highly doubt they will ever find an exploit
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Is there any way to get ahold of a dev?

bjf189 said:
Is there any way to get ahold of a dev?
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I don't know honestly. I know of devs but not for this device. I know one who hard bricked his device with the 4.3 update and moved on completely from this device and onto Nexus devices
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ShapesBlue said:
I don't know honestly. I know of devs but not for this device. I know one who hard bricked his device with the 4.3 update and moved on completely from this device and onto Nexus devices
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Well I didn't see any nexus devices under prepaid and I'd rather not go under contract. Do you think if I got a kernel from someone running 4.4 but it's older then my own, and flashed it via Odin, that it would work? Like remove the patch and be exploitable by towel root again? Or you think it'll just brick?

bjf189 said:
Well I didn't see any nexus devices under prepaid and I'd rather not go under contract. Do you think if I got a kernel from someone running 4.4 but it's older then my own, and flashed it via Odin, that it would work? Like remove the patch and be exploitable by towel root again? Or you think it'll just brick?
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Brick.

bjf189 said:
Well I didn't see any nexus devices under prepaid and I'd rather not go under contract. Do you think if I got a kernel from someone running 4.4 but it's older then my own, and flashed it via Odin, that it would work? Like remove the patch and be exploitable by towel root again? Or you think it'll just brick?
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Nexus devices will never be available under prepaid
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I know its been awhile since i last posted here but just telling everyone i have found a root method to obtain root on 4.4 with the new kernel dated on or before july 22 2014. I used the kingroot app. Just one click and got root. Not sure if kingroot and kingoroot are the same but i just used the king root to get root. I tried kingoroot and it fails. Any ways best of luck to everyone.

Root for Build LRX22G-G920VVRU2AOF1

I picked up the S6 from Verizon over the weekend and without thinking I took an out of the box update that pushed the build to OF1. From what I have been reading there's no going back from this build. Is that true and would anyone know if someone is working on a method to root this new build or that will allow us to roll back to the old build to gain root?

kdsmith10000 said:
I picked up the S6 from Verizon over the weekend and without thinking I took an out of the box update that pushed the build to OF1. From what I have been reading there's no going back from this build. Is that true and would anyone know if someone is working on a method to root this new build or that will allow us to roll back to the old build to gain root?
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Someone could be working on something. Probably won't know for sure until it's actually released, though. Until then you've just got to wait it out.

I feel sorry for you. You're kind'a SOL when it comes to rooting for now...

tvoneicken said:
I feel sorry for you. You're kind'a SOL when it comes to rooting for now...
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And we may be SOL for attaining 5.1.1 unless we go back to stock lol it may never get rooted
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Yup, you are totally correct that we may be stuck with 5.0.2 forever If it wasn't for stagefright I'd be quite OK for that until M is available, I think.

tvoneicken said:
Yup, you are totally correct that we may be stuck with 5.0.2 forever If it wasn't for stagefright I'd be quite OK for that until M is available, I think.
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Hell, I barely even use root on this phone. I'm tempted to unroot for the 5.1.1 camera options
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hopesrequiem said:
Hell, I barely even use root on this phone. I'm tempted to unroot for the 5.1.1 camera options
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I think I'll probably unroot when the update enabling Samsung pay comes out (fairly certain this one doesn't)
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i picked mine up about a month ago, unwitting of the predistro of verizons aof1. i was really looking forward to rooting and beginning to work.
as such, im assuming, from lack of ability to load custom recovery, as well as not reload the baseband and have it stick, its pointless to try downgrading to the oldest stock? it bricks?
somewhat noob and would love a redirect to a better forum for this q if known.

Verizon 5.1.1 Root??

Sorry, but I have searched, and can't find a direct answer, is 5.1.1 rooted for Verizon?
Where can I find the guide if it is.
Currently I am rooted on 5.02, have been delaying any OTA since purchase, rooted using Ping Pong
Thanks in advance

Anxiously awaiting this myself...I do know that Verizon locked the bootloader on or before 5.1.1 and as far as I know there is no root...yet.
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It does not exist. Not even the top rom makers and programers have been able to do it. The 5.1.1 update will also make it so you can't go backwards to 5.0.2. This is the first time since I've owned cell phones that I've seen a company finally beat the cell phone gurus but they finally did it on this one. However if you are not on Verizon or AT&T you can still do it through ODIN.

So if you have a phone pre 5.1.1 that rootable and root it...will you be able to flash 5.1.1?
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TommyRox said:
So if you have a phone pre 5.1.1 that rootable and root it...will you be able to flash 5.1.1?
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Only if you want to lose root.
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I assumed that's where we are...unfortunately.
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S7 will be coming out in 4 months. I doubt S6 will get it.

MSPORTER10 said:
It does not exist. Not even the top rom makers and programers have been able to do it. The 5.1.1 update will also make it so you can't go backwards to 5.0.2. This is the first time since I've owned cell phones that I've seen a company finally beat the cell phone gurus but they finally did it on this one. However if you are not on Verizon or AT&T you can still do it through ODIN.
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s4 beat the cell phone gurus... Technically... MDK was unlocked, nothing after that was.
s5 has also never had a bootloader unlock..
Lots of Verizon phones don't have much, root at most....

XxD34THxX said:
s4 beat the cell phone gurus... Technically... MDK was unlocked, nothing after that was.
s5 has also never had a bootloader unlock..
Lots of Verizon phones don't have much, root at most....
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S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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unctucker said:
S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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From what I've read, whoever unlocked it posted that they weren't going to release it. Did I hear wrong?
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unctucker said:
S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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It will not be released ever. That has been said a few times. It uses(from what I have heard) a Zero Day exploit, meaning it's very damn complicated, and it has a high chance of bricking people's phones. That was never meant to go to the general public. It was aimed at other devs. It's a proof of concept, meaning it CAN be unlocked, just not through that way.

XxD34THxX said:
It will not be released ever. That has been said a few times. It uses(from what I have heard) a Zero Day exploit, meaning it's very damn complicated, and it has a high chance of bricking people's phones. That was never meant to go to the general public. It was aimed at other devs. It's a proof of concept, meaning it CAN be unlocked, just not through that way.
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0 day exploits are OS vulnerabilities that the manufacturer themselves aren't aware of. It doesn't necessarily mean that exploit itself has a high chance of bricking the phone.
Not releasing the method could be any number if things. These reasons could range from stolen proprietary source code being used to the exploit's author deciding that he doesn't feel like sharing the method.

I heard that the team that found the method said that they would NOT release it at the moment but that in the future it will be available.
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I just want all the bloat ware removed.
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Jesustheheretic said:
0 day exploits are OS vulnerabilities that the manufacturer themselves aren't aware of. It doesn't necessarily mean that exploit itself has a high chance of bricking the phone.
Not releasing the method could be any number if things. These reasons could range from stolen proprietary source code being used to the exploit's author deciding that he doesn't feel like sharing the method.
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I know that it may not have a high chance of bricking the device, but with the device, I assume it is thanks to shenanigans with Verizon and Knox. I have already discussed legal issues briefly in the s4 bootloader thread... Damn Money Sucking Lawyers. It is what it is. I think it has given some people hope because there IS A WAY... Just maybe not that way.

Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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Well crap, should of waited til 6.0 was out on s6... :crying:

MIKEYSAKZ said:
Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.

redrol said:
Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.
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It's in the news. Said stock 5.1.1.

redrol said:
Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.
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I am pretty sure this is what he is referring to:
http://www.xda-developers.com/update-to-snapprefs-xposed-module-includes-17-instagram-like-filters/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3

No one tried yet?
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root detection

considering buying an S7 but my question is
are there many apps with root detection these days? i heard that rootcloak cant hide root from all apps
i love root but i still want to be able to use all my apps

I'm pretty sure rootcloak simply doesn't work ever since Lollipop (unless they've now figured out how to do that in a recent update).
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Devhux said:
I'm pretty sure rootcloak simply doesn't work ever since Lollipop (unless they've now figured out how to do that in a recent update).
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so you cant hide root anymore?

Not that I know of - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though
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pretty sure it does work in lolipop and above.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
I have it running on my gf phone which is currently on cm12.1
Though i wouldn't say it's working on all apps, it does work fine for most.

lector007 said:
so you cant hide root anymore?
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I personally have never had any problems with apps that should have root detection ( like snapchat). There are some workarounds for these kinda problems, but if you don't want to through the hassle of doing them, then there is an xposed module called "XTouchWiz" that can fake your phone status to official so some apps might believe it's official not rooted.

lunzi88 said:
pretty sure it does work in lolipop and above.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
I have it running on my gf phone which is currently on cm12.1
Though i wouldn't say it's working on all apps, it does work fine for most.
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Good to know. It was a while since I checked it, and back then there was no mention of Lollipop or Marshmallow support.
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Verizon S6 6.0.1 Waiting for Root....

I come here everyday hoping to one day see a root thread... Do you ever think we will get one?..

I do too but I don't think we will have root. I've already been starting to look for a replacement but haven't found anything out there that's any better and has root. I'll just stick with root on 5.0.2 for now.

I gave up on this already lol. Luckily for me all I needed root for was mobile hotspot. FoxFi took care of that :good:

I gave up root a while back for marshmallow it's pointless on this phone no xposed no TWRP the 6.0 keyboard is worth it alone

The only chance is if an unencrypted bootloader is leaked like with the s3
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Shawn haz root said:
I do too but I don't think we will have root. I've already been starting to look for a replacement but haven't found anything out there that's any better and has root. I'll just stick with root on 5.0.2 for now.[/QUOTE
Well the all s7's have root now, as of yesterday. Still no bootloader unlock, but hopefully in time. Got xposed working as well.
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billydroid said:
Shawn haz root said:
I do too but I don't think we will have root. I've already been starting to look for a replacement but haven't found anything out there that's any better and has root. I'll just stick with root on 5.0.2 for now.[/QUOTE
Well the all s7's have root now, as of yesterday. Still no bootloader unlock, but hopefully in time. Got xposed working as well.
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Verizon S7?
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compaqsport said:
billydroid said:
Verizon S7?
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Yes all qualcomm USA variants. I'm sure there is a thread over there.
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Yep got root on my Vzw S7.

billydroid said:
Shawn haz root said:
I do too but I don't think we will have root. I've already been starting to look for a replacement but haven't found anything out there that's any better and has root. I'll just stick with root on 5.0.2 for now.[/QUOTE
Well the all s7's have root now, as of yesterday. Still no bootloader unlock, but hopefully in time. Got xposed working as well.
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Crossing my fingers for root on the S6.
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Hopefully we won't be left out in the cold with the Verizon S6..... Waiting patiently

I was about to give up on a possible root for Marshmellow and update to the latest OTA until I read about the S7 root. Eagerly waiting for good news for the S6.

how the heck has the s7 been rooted, but the s6 is still in the dark... This is my first smart phone without root / custom ROMs in almost 10 years and I HATE IT !

They have a rooted boot image those bastards lol

I hate Verizon. If it wasn't for their impeccable service in my area of NY, I would leave. I hate not having root and having all this junk on my phone.

The s7 is Qualcomm. Our s6 is a Samsung made SOC. Their method will not work for us anyway. Plus, it is not even a method, it is a leaked, rooted image.
Those on Verizon S6 will not see root for possibly ever seeming no devs care for this phone anymore. Really, no devs did when it did have root lol

A root would be really nice for 6.0.1. Certainly waiting but not optimistic.
Definitely no way back after updating right?

after getting Samsung pay to work. I can live without root.
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luv2increase said:
The s7 is Qualcomm. Our s6 is a Samsung made SOC. Their method will not work for us anyway. Plus, it is not even a method, it is a leaked, rooted image.
Those on Verizon S6 will not see root for possibly ever seeming no devs care for this phone anymore. Really, no devs did when it did have root lol
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Technically I think root could be possible with the dirty cow method. But would take developers like jcase or beansup to provide a safe method of doing so, due to the exploit being how it is.
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hey what going on guys well as i had hear that you guys need root s6 g920v
compaqsport said:
I come here everyday hoping to one day see a root thread... Do you ever think we will get one?..
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