Early camera test X Play vs Galaxy S6 - X Play General

the guys at mobilesyrup have done a nice shootout with the 2 cameras -- and the results are good, imo, on the X Play side.
indeed, it could've been better with an improved camera app from Motorola, but that could come in a later update. for now, all I can say, that for half the price of a S6/Edge, the Moto X Play does pretty well on the camera sector. so, can't wait for my order to arrive!
here is the link: http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/08/15/camera-shootout-moto-x-play-vs-samsung-galaxy-s6/

Nice, but my first impression using Moto X play camera is that, you still feel like using a motorola camera, not in a good way. Even with the previous generation moto x, i could take some good shot, but you know, still a little slow to focus, a slow starting camera. I'm coming from a Galaxy S6 edge, and i still have my moto x 2gen and Droid Turbo. I will make some everyday random shots and check the results.

Does anyone know if the X play supports camera2 api? a lot of these points will be moot for us that are more serious photographers if we can shoot .dng files

hypermonkey20 said:
Does anyone know if the X play supports camera2 api? a lot of these points will be moot for us that are more serious photographers if we can shoot .dng files
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I have the Nexus 5 and I use Camera FV-5 app to take RAW pictures. I just got the Moto X Play and when I installed Camera FV-5, it says that the device isn't compatible to take RAW photos. I have read somewhere (possibly on XDA) that it could be a software thing and Motorola just needs to enable it.

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4k recording on Lollipop

Hey all, I haven't heard much about camera specs in all the excitement about Lollipop and now PA on the G3, I am on CM12 now and loving it but I miss having 4k recording on the camera... Any way to bring this back? Maybe a camera app port? [emoji1]
That is the only reason I went back to a stock based ROM. Love my camera.
I know this is something we can do... We have some great developers here... WINK WINK!... That is the only only thing it is missing. I'm going to try some build.prop edits to see if it will work, but I doubt it.
scorpiopantera said:
That is the only reason I went back to a stock based ROM. Love my camera.
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Agreed, CloudyG3 is great. It's my go to ROM unless I'm on CM12, I had to flash back today because I'm having WiFi issues on CM.
Aosp ROMs always have bad cameras they use googles **** camera
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antiparadigm said:
I know this is something we can do... We have some great developers here... WINK WINK!... That is the only only thing it is missing. I'm going to try some build.prop edits to see if it will work, but I doubt it.
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I have had many phones...Nexus, Touchwiz, Sense, and now the G3...it cannot be done.
But the ability to record 4k is in the hardware, right? If it were strictly a software up conversion then yes it would be an issue, but if it is native to the camera hardware it seems like the camera app would just need to have the support for that feature of the sensor...
I sorta think its silly to record in 4k without even having a 4k TV to play it against. I honestly can't justify it, so I'll stick with the pros of having cm12 instead. Fwiw the Google camera isn't all that bad really. If I need pro photos, that's what my Sony nex is for.
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But we do all own a phone that plays 4k... And if you down sample to 1080p it retains a lot of sharpness and clarity not possible from strait 1080p recording.
antiparadigm said:
But we do all own a phone that plays 4k... And if you down sample to 1080p it retains a lot of sharpness and clarity not possible from strait 1080p recording.
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This is the thing right here. I want to be able to record in 4k so that I can downsample/crop/frame a 1080p edit of that footage with amazing clarity and control.
I desperately want to be able to do this on AOSP on the G3, but the going, thus far, is slow.
Recently YouTube brought back 4k playback. Check out the GoPro channel. Sweet stuff. They need an LG G3 channel...
I don't think the quality in stock vs Google camera can ever be matched sadly.
xamadeix said:
I don't think the quality in stock vs Google camera can ever be matched sadly.
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Which camera do you think is better? I'm confused.
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Which camera do you think is better? I'm confused.
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Stock camera is ages ahead of the CM Camera (Googles), there is just no comparison, once you look at the photos on a big screen you notice the lower quality on the Google camera photos., also with CM you will loose:
Laser Focus, 4K video recording and Slow Motion
If your recording in 4k only to convert to 1080 because it looks better it's because your editing software isn't doing it's job. I've tried it both ways and get the same results. And yes unless you're filming for a professional job that will use cinema standards or own a 4k TV recording in 4k just takes up too much space for no reason. I also recommend waiting quite a few years before attempting to get a useless UHD TV.

Note 3 , Lollipop and RAW images

Hi guys , in last week I looked for information about the ability of Android 5.0 Lollipop to capture RAW photos. Apparently Android allows us to shoot RAW photos.
And my favorite camera app has ability to take these photos - look here
http://www.camerafv5.com/pages/raw-shooting.php
Here are some samples
http://www.camerafv5.com/pages/raw-samples.php
I look for information about our phones Note 3 but cant found nothing. For the moment only LG Nexus 5 and Motorola Nexus 6 support this cool feature.
Is there some ROM here in Android Development section that supports capturing photos in RAW.
Would be happy if some developer deal with it :highfive:
Cheers !
I'm interested in this as well, there seems to be an app for the Nexus 5 and 6 that can do .raw with Lollipop. The Note 3 should definitely be able to, all all we need is someone with the know how tho make an app that can do it.
Samsung didn't included the needed API on his latest kernel. We will need the source first so devs can create their custom kernels with RAW support.
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Shame Can't wait to see how much better the quality of pics are once we are able to do. raw.
Being able to shoot raw video would be a nice addition as well.
S1eB said:
Shame Can't wait to see how much better the quality of pics are once we are able to do. raw.
Being able to shoot raw video would be a nice addition as well.
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I know! That's why I always keep my Canon DSLR at hand. Can't even compare the quality of a photo taken by my note 3 and my DSLR in RAW

Panaroma shots taken on moto x play

Hi all,
I have attached a few of the shots taken on my Moto x play running Android nougat 7.1.1 on Resurrection Remix 5.8.0. I was always let down by the phone in 2 Dept. Camera -for no camera api2 and panaroma shots. Battery- not good with such a huge battery pack.
Today I took some time out, and tried to explore the camera apps with panaroma shots. And to my surprise, only one app made me rethink abt it.
I used snap camera, Moto z camera, cm camera baked in the ROM and finally HTC camera app.
Please let me know abt it, and share your thoughts.
Hit thanks if helped.
Cheers
Please provide link for htc camera!!!
srinikethan1392 said:
Hi all,
I have attached a few of the shots taken on my Moto x play running Android nougat 7.1.1 on Resurrection Remix 5.8.0. I was always let down by the phone in 2 Dept. Camera -for no camera api2 and panaroma shots. Battery- not good with such a huge battery pack.
Today I took some time out, and tried to explore the camera apps with panaroma shots. And to my surprise, only one app made me rethink abt it.
I used snap camera, Moto z camera, cm camera baked in the ROM and finally HTC camera app.
Please let me know abt it, and share your thoughts.
Hit thanks if helped.
Cheers
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which htc camera version did you use?
It's v.8.10.. HTC camera, il upload a gdrive link later in the day
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--KUg4rwf27WDZpbFZaa3o1aWM/view?usp=drivesdk
Here is the link to the camera app
I find taking a series of photos and letting Google Photos stitch them together works the best, the in camera panoramas are terrible and very compressed.
Clearly this cant been seen in a resized image but the full size version of this image is nearly 17,000 pixels wide.
How
MrBelter said:
I find taking a series of photos and letting Google Photos stitch them together works the best, the in camera panoramas are terrible and very compressed.
Clearly this cant been seen in a resized image but the full size version of this image is nearly 17,000 pixels wide.
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Hi, What setting do you use in Google photos to stitch photos?
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Google camera mod with portrait mode and hdr+

Hello, we have so great phone, but i want to sell it! one reason is that - word is talking about Google camera, which have amazing Hdr+ and Best portrait mode... Developer @B.S.G ported this camera for Xiaomi and after other develepers made mod versions for other phones (this mods is working almost at all phones), and this two amazing Mode (portrait, Hdr+) is working great and bad cameras with Gcam mod are shooting great pictures! We have so good smartphone, but camera is not so good that it must to be! And we can't use Google camera mod, because our phone have not full support of Camera2api And no one can to Port this great Camera for XZ Premium users But maybe there is someone who can help us to enable camera2 api and make Gcam mod version for us, it will be great and I think it will be work at our device very good....
I'm sorry for my bad English and I hope sony will make better smartphones, with better camera and design!
Shako1993 said:
Hello, we have so great phone, but i want to sell it! one reason is that - word is talking about Google camera, which have amazing Hdr+ and Best portrait mode... Developer @B.S.G ported this camera for Xiaomi and after other develepers made mod versions for other phones (this mods is working almost at all phones), and this two amazing Mode (portrait, Hdr+) is working great and bad cameras with Gcam mod are shooting great pictures! We have so good smartphone, but camera is not so good that it must to be! And we can't use Google camera mod, because our phone have not full support of Camera2api And no one can to Port this great Camera for XZ Premium users But maybe there is someone who can help us to enable camera2 api and make Gcam mod version for us, it will be great and I think it will be work at our device very good....
I'm sorry for my bad English and I hope sony will make better smartphones, with better camera and design!
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Really? Are you kidding or what? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
"this two amazing Mode (portrait, Hdr+) is working great and bad cameras with Gcam mod are shooting great pictures!"
Believe me, sell the Xperia. Buy a 150€ Xiaomi, and I am totally sure that with Google Camera you will have a super camera, better than any smartphone, near to a reflex... :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Come on man!
alexs784 said:
Really? Are you kidding or what? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
"this two amazing Mode (portrait, Hdr+) is working great and bad cameras with Gcam mod are shooting great pictures!"
Believe me, sell the Xperia. Buy a 150€ Xiaomi, and I am totally sure that with Google Camera you will have a super camera, better than any smartphone, near to a reflex... :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Come on man!
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You have seen pictures taken with Google camera at other smartphones?
Shako1993 said:
You have seen pictures taken with Google camera at other smartphones?
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Yes.
Maybe a better question is: Have you ever seen photos taken by this Xperia?
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Yes.
Maybe a better question is: Have you ever seen photos taken by this Xperia?
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I have XZ Premium, and i took with this phone great pictures.
But if google camera will work at xz premium, we can take amazing and sharp portrait.
Shako1993 said:
I have XZ Premium, and i took with this phone great pictures.
But if google camera will work at xz premium, we can take amazing and sharp portrait.
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I repeat man: if this is your opinion buy a 150€ Xiaomi and good luck
OT: Rome, cool, I am from (south) Italy
alexs784 said:
I repeat man: if this is your opinion buy a 150€ Xiaomi and good luck
OT: Rome, cool, I am from (south) Italy
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No, I don't need xiaomi, now i have second phone Mate 10 pro, I won it At Huawei competition and this smartphone have good camera. I just want to say, that from childhood i'm Sony fan and i want, that sony have better camera and Possibilities, than other smartphones!
I'm from Georgia, i was in Rome this summer and it is very beautiful city!
alexs784 said:
I repeat man: if this is your opinion buy a 150€ Xiaomi and good luck
OT: Rome, cool, I am from (south) Italy
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Yo dude google camera is indeed improving the picture you took with your smartphone, in fact it's a lot. Take a look at this video comparing <€150 Xiaomi phones with stock camera, Ported google camera, and Google pixel 2, and you can see that the result is night and day compared to the stock camera app, and even matching the photos taken with the Google pixel 2! So don't underestimate this app, it's ported and wanted by many community for a reason, it's not just a ****ty apps in play store, this is the app that makes the google pixel known for its camera.
https://youtu.be/Ds8AJFo0GC4
https://youtu.be/_LClIl7Gh90
I don't know why but google camera works fine on my xz premium ._.
nendraharyo said:
I don't know why but google camera works fine on my xz premium ._.
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If this is so, what version are you using? And does HDR+ and Portrait work?
Is your bootloader unlocked or your phone modded?
Artyomska said:
If this is so, what version are you using? And does HDR+ and Portrait work?
Is your bootloader unlocked or your phone modded?
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The google cam version is 5.1.018.177470874.
HDR+ thing doesn't work, in fact the app is detecting my phone's rom as custom ( my phone is NOT unlocked or modded... Yet)
There's no "Portrait mode" but instead the "Lens blur" mode which is actually the same? Correct me if im wrong
The app itself runs smoothly, no crashes. Just like the stock camera app. Just tell me if you want the link though. And i'll try to make comparisons between the stock camera app and google cam app soon. (My connection is so bad rn i can't upload images)
nendraharyo said:
The google cam version is 5.1.018.177470874.
HDR+ thing doesn't work, in fact the app is detecting my phone's rom as custom ( my phone is NOT unlocked or modded... Yet)
There's no "Portrait mode" but instead the "Lens blur" mode which is actually the same? Correct me if im wrong
The app itself runs smoothly, no crashes. Just like the stock camera app. Just tell me if you want the link though. And i'll try to make comparisons between the stock camera app and google cam app soon. (My connection is so bad rn i can't upload images)
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8mp max no 19 mp
karrouma said:
8mp max no 19 mp
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Yeah i forgot about that. It is funny that the primary cameras max is only 8mp but the secondary cam is 13mp max
There is standard google camera, but hdr+ and portrait mode is not there just lens blur and it's take time to take portrait or something. I found thread about unlock camera2api, anyone tried unlock it?
Shako1993 said:
I found thread about unlock camera2api, anyone tried unlock it?
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Link?
failax said:
Link?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...google-camera-camera-api2-fix-t3655211/page80
Sadly you need root for that , which is not attainable right now without unlocking the bootloader.
Lack of RAW mode is a real turn off on this Phone, my old Lumia 950XL took amazing photos and had an insanely powerful flash. If I'm completely honest, the camera and flash are the weakest part of this device so I can easily see why folk want to try and mod it. Actually, in an ironic twist, the screen delivers a brighter flash then the actual flash, to bad its the wrong way around to help the camera.
It is very sad that such a good smartphone would turn into this huge disappointment. Most of the camera apps that I've used are Laggy and use only 8mp
Maybe there is someone, who can active full camera2api? And make gcam mod for sony?

Question GCam for Xperia 5 III?

Ive always wanted to try GCam and see if its all the hype it says it is.
Is there a modded version out for the Xperia 5 III? Thanks
None of previous Xperia (for the last 3 generations at least) flagship smartphone had working Gcam. Suggest this one will be no different.
bruh how is that even possible
I've been playing with one on my 5 ii, and the results are pretty good. Not as great as I expected, but that doesn't surprise me. The Sony hardware is not optimized to work with the software, and you could probably tweak the algorithms to make it work better with the Sony hardware. But, I don't have time to tweak the hundreds of settings in the GCAM mods to see what works best.
Where you have:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
It's not close to perfect, but it works on all 3 rear cameras.
Night mode doesn't work very well because Sony only exposes expores up to 1s for external apps, and the GCam crashes when tries to use more than 1s to capture more light.
XiCO FiR3 said:
Where you have:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
It's not close to perfect, but it works on all 3 rear cameras.
Night mode doesn't work very well because Sony only exposes expores up to 1s for external apps, and the GCam crashes when tries to use more than 1s to capture more light.
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Posting a random link from a site that noone knows about is kind of sketchy.
Does the guy have some kind of XDA profile?
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Posting a random link from a site that noone knows about is kind of sketchy.
Does the guy have some kind of XDA profile?
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Sorry, for that.
This site is a place where most of GCam mods are posted, for multiple devices and from multiple Devs, instead of even sketchier telegram groups.
The link in question I posted is from bsg19071979 here on XDA.
You can check is work https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-mod-google-camera-by-b-s-g.4201665/
Unfortunately, the version I posted is the only version I found that works on my Xperia 5 III.
and can u see any difference vs the original Xperia Camera Software
and which version u using.?
Download:​
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_snap.apk (org.codeaurora.snapcam) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_MGC.apk (com.android.mgc) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ENG.apk (com.google.android.GoogleCameraEng) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ruler.apk (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_scan3d.apk (com.samsung.android.scan3d) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_qcamera3.apk (org.codeaurora.qcamera3) #
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and can u see any difference vs the original Xperia Camera Software
and which version u using.?
Download:​
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_snap.apk (org.codeaurora.snapcam) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_MGC.apk (com.android.mgc) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ENG.apk (com.google.android.GoogleCameraEng) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ruler.apk (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_scan3d.apk (com.samsung.android.scan3d) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_qcamera3.apk (org.codeaurora.qcamera3) #
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The biggest difference I can see, is in low light scenes, the google camera takes much better photos, and removes almost all the noise without losing to much detail.
In cases that the Xperia Camera clips the background, the Gcam resolves some detail in the clouds for example.
Overall I don't recommend it.
- Auto focus is it or miss.
- Touch to focus freezes the viewport.
- Video recording doesn't work.
- Selfie camera doesn't work because Sony uses a cheap Samsung sensor.
- Night mode doesn't work properly because Sony doesn't expose all the camera API properties.
- Out of the box the photos are a bit under saturated.
The diferent versions don't make any diffence in the case of the Xperia 5 III, that I know off.
Im my hold phone I needed a camera with a specific name to allow the google camera to access all the camera features in original ROM. More or less what sony does with the creator' color profile for specific apps.
and again.... which version u using....therea6 different.!
i tried the first 3 from the list and i don't like there results at all.!
DanielMode said:
and again.... which version u using....therea6 different.!
i tried the first 3 from the list and i don't like there results at all.!
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I'm using rev X of the one ending in MGC. It runs okay. A little sluggish, but I don't have crashes. I did find a profile on the web and loaded it. GCAM on the Xperia cameras is a tool, but not a perfect one. I've learned from experimentation what areas it does well and what times it doesn't. I find it hard to say if it's better or worse than the stock app because it is situation dependent. If you're looking for something that you can replace the stock app with, your expectations will not be met. However, if you're looking for an app that does better in many low light situations where you have to shoot handheld, then it will give you capability you don't have with the stock app.
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I'm using rev X of the one ending in MGC. It runs okay. A little sluggish, but I don't have crashes. I did find a profile on the web and loaded it. GCAM on the Xperia cameras is a tool, but not a perfect one. I've learned from experimentation what areas it does well and what times it doesn't. I find it hard to say if it's better or worse than the stock app because it is situation dependent. If you're looking for something that you can replace the stock app with, your expectations will not be met. However, if you're looking for an app that does better in many low light situations where you have to shoot handheld, then it will give you capability you don't have with the stock app.
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Im wondering why people search gcam for 5 iii, latest 5 iii stock camera take picture way better than my pixel 5. I love the result from my 5 iii photo.
Current devices 5 iii, android 12
riahc3 said:
Ive always wanted to try GCam and see if its all the hype it says it is.
Is there a modded version out for the Xperia 5 III? Thanks
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dude, you have an xperia 5 III with many powered features and excellent great results in the camera (photo and video modes), why want you try gcam...???!!!! i don't understand !!!
mrsyamsul said:
Im wondering why people search gcam for 5 iii, latest 5 iii stock camera take picture way better than my pixel 5. I love the result from my 5 iii photo.
Current devices 5 iii, android 12
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Disagree with X 5 III taking better photos than Pixel 5. I wish it was true so then it would be no need in Gcam. X 5 III takes good enough photos in perfect light conditions only. That's just my experience (with X 1 III though).
WarVic[NZ] said:
Disagree with X 5 III taking better photos than Pixel 5. I wish it was true so then it would be no need in Gcam. X 5 III takes good enough photos in perfect light conditions only. That's just my experience (with X 1 III though).
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Is you use lates android 12 and latest March photography pro, even night mod on my 5 iii capture faster than my pixel 6. I don't have 1 iii so i can't make comparison. I only have 5 iii, pixel 5 and pixel 6.
mrsyamsul said:
Is you use lates android 12 and latest March photography pro, even night mod on my 5 iii capture faster than my pixel 6. I don't have 1 iii so i can't make comparison. I only have 5 iii, pixel 5 and pixel 6.
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I don't like the quality output straight out of camera. Photos come out underexposed, out of focus, lack of clarity and lack of HDR too often.
WarVic[NZ] said:
I don't like the quality output straight out of camera. Photos come out underexposed, out of focus, lack of clarity and lack of HDR too often.
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Ohh I'm sorry to hear that.none that happen to my Xperia 5 III devices. You may want to get new phone and forget about your 1 III already.
mrsyamsul said:
Ohh I'm sorry to hear that.none that happen to my Xperia 5 III devices. You may want to get new phone and forget about your 1 III already.
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This is exactly what I did! I 'm really happy that I was able to get rid of that overpriced, overhyped device. Certainly it is not worth even $800 to my opinion. Just because of underwhelming camera performance alone.
I currently have a Pixel 4a and an Xperia 5 iii. The difference in low light scenes is astonishingly in the Pixel's favor. During the day I really like the Xperia's colors and having multiple zoom levels is great too. But in poor light the $349 Pixel cleans the Xperia's clock. Sure, with a tripod and a static scene I could get a better result on the 5 iii perhaps but in most situations it's not close. Google has bottled smoke or something.

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