Note4 or G4 camera is the possible breaking factor - General Topics

Hi All
Apologies if this has been done to death, if it has can you please point me in the direction on the correct threads.
Im currently an S4 owner (i hate this phone) my upgrade is due and im looking at the Note 4 or the G4. I was hell bent on the S5 but after yesterday announcement of no SD slot (can live with no battery replacement) no going there.
So here is my thinking and wants for the phones
I have a 17 month old daughter so the camera is the highest possibility. I can see the camera's are fairly well matched and most of my photos will more than likely be low light of the family and the baby
I live in the UK so most of my indoor shots are using in low light (after i get home from work)
I usually use the phone for the basics, emails the odd game or 2 and quite a heavy youtube viewer. But the camera with be a key factor for me.
My question is for people who has possibly used both phones. At the minute im sligthly more pushed in the G4 camp however i could still easily go for the Note 4. So are there any deal breaking options why i should go for the G4 over the Note 4 i mean is the camera that much better on the G4 than the Note 4?
On another note my wife has a Z3 compact and i find the camera very capable on that as well anyone like this phone or is this part of the past now?
I usually use Nova launcher as my default launcher as well (hate touchwiz)
thanks in advance

You will have better luck asking in this dedicate thread on phone suggestions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Ask there and I'm sure you'll get opinions! :good:
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[Q] HTC M8, Galaxy S5, LG G3 question

So here is my scenario...
I recently upgraded to an S5 from my S3 about 10 days ago. With Best Buy I have 14 days to trade it in for a different phone if I want but I can only trade it in once. I like the S5 but it just feels like an upgraded S3, which isn't a bad thing. The camera is good, but the G3 camera does better as an all around camera. I also like the back buttons and the screen. My worries with the G3 are a lack of community modding (maybe that is irrational) and the potential problems with the screen. Overheating, dim, causes lag.
I also like the speakers and style on the M8, the IP67 on the S5 and the camera for well lit pictures, the camera on the G3, the buttons, the nice screen. My questions are, is the camera for the M8 really that bad? Does the screen really cause that many issues? What would you pick and why?
Moosetracks said:
So here is my scenario...
I recently upgraded to an S5 from my S3 about 10 days ago. With Best Buy I have 14 days to trade it in for a different phone if I want but I can only trade it in once. I like the S5 but it just feels like an upgraded S3, which isn't a bad thing. The camera is good, but the G3 camera does better as an all around camera. I also like the back buttons and the screen. My worries with the G3 are a lack of community modding (maybe that is irrational) and the potential problems with the screen. Overheating, dim, causes lag.
I also like the speakers and style on the M8, the IP67 on the S5 and the camera for well lit pictures, the camera on the G3, the buttons, the nice screen. My questions are, is the camera for the M8 really that bad? Does the screen really cause that many issues? What would you pick and why?
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Try xperia z2 AND THERE S MANY REASONS TO BUY!
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Try xperia z2 AND THERE S MANY REASONS TO BUY!
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Only problem is where to get it. I can't really trade in my S5 if best buy doesn't sell the Z2.
Call the Sony xperia care 180030002800 they will guide you the proper, nearby you! Hit thanks if i helped you out
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There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.

[Q] Decide my new phone!

Hi guys,
Unfortunately today has been a very upsetting and sad day for me. I took a risk buying a OnePlus One and it has been the best phone that I have ever had, although today has shown that even though it was amazing for me I have had a bad experience with it. As many of you may already know; the OnePlus One is very hard to insure due to it not being the most popular phone and today my phone screen has smashed. Although many of you may think that I'm an idiot for dropping my phone - it was a complete accident and fell out of my pocket, out of the car door and hit a stress point in the bottom left corner. This stress point on the phone was fairly spectacular as it damaged the screen itself with spider cracks running up the whole phone screen and the digitiser failing completely.
I took it apart with my Dad and we both saw that the screens below had smashed as well.
So, apart from the story - what phone should I get?
I'm deciding - although it was the best phone I've ever had - to step away from the OnePlus for two reasons.
The first being that it is hard to insure and even harder to find somewhere in the UK that will actually attempt a repair.
The second being that I've read that in some cases they are charging the price of the phone to repair the screen and getting a hold of a new one is harder because of the invite system that I will have to become a part of again.
So, after that long story - What phone do you think I should get? The LG G3 looks very appealing but the thought of the back buttons puts me off a little bit. Although, there is the iPhone 6 Plus... (If I had no mind).
Could you recommend a phone and why?
Cheers. Jon
This really should go in the dedicated thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
That said, perhaps a Nexus 6 or a Note 4? Both great phones with top-tier specs.
The Nexus being a Nexus with stock Android and customization freedom, and the Note 4 with the spen and great screen and camera. (and a MicroSD, of thatmatters to you).
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Well I heard great things about Samsung Galaxy Note 4. The photos you make are clear and bright- plus it's a rear and front camera as an extra bonus. The phone has a pen included, where you can copy- paste anything you'd like and share it with friends or save it for later.
Some phone don't have these add ons so if you are a gadget freak, I'd pick this one. Good Luck
Whatever you get, put a damn case on it.
Planterz said:
Whatever you get, put a damn case on it.
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Well put, Planterz.
Well, i should recommend Sony Z3, a Good Phone with high quality build...
Another could be a Nexus 6, excellent phone if you like pure Android, and fast UI and work.

[Q] Smartphone with best flashlight?

Hello xda!
as of today i bid farewell to my s3, it has never let me down, the phone was great and its modding community was even better. however the phone has taken its toll of abuse, and this is the second time ive cracked the screen on it .
So its time to get me a new phone, but im not so sure what to get, I use the flashlight a lot and it has saved me from lots of day to day situations.
i was considering getting a oneplus one, but a coworker has that and the flashlight is very weak, theres even a comparison video on youtube specifically between the s3 and one+
So i came to ask here after a bunch of google searches that pretty much got me no answers.
What android phones have the brightest flashlight?
The more mentioned the better, im quite picky with choosing my new phone, even considering staying true to the s3 and getting me a replacement screen haha
thanks
ps the more recent the phone the better, really hoping for one that will get/have a lollipop port
The flashlight on my Note 3 is painfully bright. (I use it for DIY around the house.) The one on the Note 4 is, too.
But the size of those devices is something you either love or hate.
All recent Samsung S and Note devices use the same LED for the flash. So the S5 is also an option.
Haven't tested the flashlight on any other brand.
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What phone are you coming from?

Just curious what is everyone getting rid of to get this phone?
I went from a Nexus 4 to a Z3 Compact. I hadn't done my research and was kind of thrown off by how small the Z3 Compact was. On top of that, once we got to 5.0, it really didn't show any potential until the 5.1.1 update. Before that, it was sluggish, leaking memory like there was no tomorrow, and battery life wasn't good. 5.1.1 brought it back to what made it sound great in all those reviews, including the 2-day battery life. However, I still can't get over how tiny the screen is. Makes it extremely easy to use with one hand, but still.
Now, jumping to the Pure is going to be a huge transition screen size wise, and I'll try not to panic and just return the thing after a day. I didn't need a screen that big, I would be content with high 4's to low 5's, but the combo of an almost pure Android installation with nice add-ons, the great specs and price, and the promise of quick Android updates made this way too enticing not to try out. Living in California gives me a 30-day return period too, which is awesome. So, we'll see how this works out.
I currently have the LG G4. This is my 3rd phone this year after using the Note 4 and the Note Edge. I'm so bummed all these phones. The Notes have lagged so bad for me but the camera was great. I'm having the opposite issue with the G4. This camera has been terrible and won't focus.
A thread already exists, please use search next time before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/question-phone-switching-t3169241
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The rise and fall of the K-Zoom

It's such a shame that the K Zoom never really took off. I owned one for about 6 months and loved it. I only changed it when the Note 4 was released. But during my time with the KZ I found the camera produced amazing photos with its 10X zoom and Xenon flash. The phone part was very capable too with a good sized high resolution screen, along with a decent amount of power. I also thought the price tag on this device was very reasonable too.
So why did it fail? Well I am guessing on a few theories. Firstly, maybe that it looked too much like the Galaxy S5 and although I personally don't think either the S5 or KZ look bad at all, a lot of people do. Samsung was getting a lot of criticism for their lack lustre designs and maybe it was released at the wrong time. Another theory would be that it was bulky. Though less so than its predecessor the Galaxy S4 Zoom. Maybe some weren't sure about a hybrid device, especially when cameras on phones in general were exceeding the quality of standalone cameras.
But I am a firm believer that one of the reasons these niche devices fail, is because Samsung just don't develop or support them once they are released. I mean development for their flagship phones doesn't exactly impress, so what chance does a less popular device get? Take the Galaxy Camera and the Galaxy Camera 2. Both great and revolutionary devices at the time but they just didn't get any proper updates. Both stuck on Jelly Bean and both having issues that a firmware upgrade could have cured. The K Zoom would have benefited from some firmware update love and an upgrade from KK 4.4.2 too was much needed.
I have always wanted to be able to afford to keep certain phones I buy in an archive. But due to the cost I tend to trade everything in to get the latest devices. If I had to choose which ones I would keep, then the K Zoom would be one of them. It is a great phone hybrid, it's a shame it didn't sell well and it's sad there is no successor in the pipeline.
So, why do you think the KZ didn't do so well?
I love the Kzoom - i will never be getting rid of it
I have a few fones , my main driver is zen2 4gb ram 64gb 64 bit SoC .
The kzoom is too luxurious to carry around , mainly for special events
The little development that has been, is enough for me -- its a special device and always will be in my eyes
The only fail is people just want the latest and thats not always the best !
Perhaps Samsung should consider aggressively supporting custom ROM development for the device?
I still use my KZ SM-C111 & take it everywhere I go, I think it's the best android smartphone ever. The only downside is no real support from Samsung.
I just wish anyone successfully make Lollipop Lite for KZ since it came with only 8GB capacity :crying:
it's big, it's heavy, it doesn't have enougth memory, the camera is not dust proof, the battery is too small, but I cannot find any other smartphone with a 10x zoom !
Hello, I really love my k zoom. The pictures are beautiful and the phone is absolutely not to heavy. Soon I can pick another phone but what about the motorola x style?
The fact its big and heavier than normal are exactly the reasons I was seriously considering getting one for my mum who has problems with her hands. The weight and size would be easier for her to hold, modern phones are too small and light that she would just drop them.
The fact its stuck on KitKat is a problem though as I worry about any security holes left in the OS due to no updates.
Love it!
:good:
I've got the K-Zoom from the time it just got out and love it.
The only thing that really suck is the way Samsung has been treating its customers with their crappy update policy but one cant blame the phone for that
The main reason the phone never really 'took off' is in my opinion:
Lack of publicity in Europe.
I havent met anyone in Europe who knew the phone. Everyone who sees it and whom I inform about its specs is interested. Especially in its camera's capability's. The huge lens that appears out of the phone amazes everyone as well as the quality of the pictures. Havent had any negative remarks about the looks or its weight. In fact I've had countless requests of people who wanted to buy it from me.
The name should have been S5 zoom to like the S4 zoom which was more of a camera that could make calls.
I only found out about the K-zoom after intensive search for a good camera phone. Most people don't take that time but after calling/messaging, making pictures/videos is the biggest thing on smartphones so the problem want lack of interest.
Sure there are better phones and better cameras but who wants to pack both all the time?
I love my K Zoom but I wish Samsung (or an XDA developer) would support Marshmallow on it and allow apps to be transferred to the SD card.
The K-Zoom is not dead...
It just has been copied:
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/31/first-look-hasselblad-camera-moto-mod/
ROTFL!
rin67630 said:
It just has been copied:
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/31/first-look-hasselblad-camera-moto-mod/
ROTFL!
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copied? its a moto mod not a phone unlike KZ.
I love my K Zoom
apprentice said:
It's such a shame that the K Zoom never really took off. I owned one for about 6 months and loved it. I only changed it when the Note 4 was released. But during my time with the KZ I found the camera produced amazing photos with its 10X zoom and Xenon flash. The phone part was very capable too with a good sized high resolution screen, along with a decent amount of power. I also thought the price tag on this device was very reasonable too.
So why did it fail? Well I am guessing on a few theories. Firstly, maybe that it looked too much like the Galaxy S5 and although I personally don't think either the S5 or KZ look bad at all, a lot of people do. Samsung was getting a lot of criticism for their lack lustre designs and maybe it was released at the wrong time. Another theory would be that it was bulky. Though less so than its predecessor the Galaxy S4 Zoom. Maybe some weren't sure about a hybrid device, especially when cameras on phones in general were exceeding the quality of standalone cameras.
But I am a firm believer that one of the reasons these niche devices fail, is because Samsung just don't develop or support them once they are released. I mean development for their flagship phones doesn't exactly impress, so what chance does a less popular device get? Take the Galaxy Camera and the Galaxy Camera 2. Both great and revolutionary devices at the time but they just didn't get any proper updates. Both stuck on Jelly Bean and both having issues that a firmware upgrade could have cured. The K Zoom would have benefited from some firmware update love and an upgrade from KK 4.4.2 too was much needed.
I have always wanted to be able to afford to keep certain phones I buy in an archive. But due to the cost I tend to trade everything in to get the latest devices. If I had to choose which ones I would keep, then the K Zoom would be one of them. It is a great phone hybrid, it's a shame it didn't sell well and it's sad there is no successor in the pipeline.
So, why do you think the KZ didn't do so well?
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I love my K Zoom. Was definitely not advertised enough/properly. After I Rooted my phone (My first Rooted phone) I was able to transfer all apps to the external 64gb SD & I mean all (Games, applications, etc)
The only reason that I want to change my phone is its lack of Mirrorlink support that my new vehicle has.
Great camera, good battery life
I even have my LG Optimus 3D because of its 3D camera & glasses free 3D content.
Its for keeps...
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I love my K Zoom. Was definitely not advertised enough/properly. After I Rooted my phone (My first Rooted phone) I was able to transfer all apps to the external 64gb SD & I mean all (Games, applications, etc)
The only reason that I want to change my phone is its lack of Mirrorlink support that my new vehicle has.
Great camera, good battery life
I even have my LG Optimus 3D because of its 3D camera & glasses free 3D content.
Its for keeps...
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You are lucky if you can afford to keep them. I had a HTC Evo 3D and I loved it. But 3D never took off sadly, the novelty factor was awesome but like most novelties they fall out of favour. This is another phone I would like to have kept in my little phone museum!
rin67630 said:
It just has been copied:
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/31/first-look-hasselblad-camera-moto-mod/
ROTFL!
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I disagree. This is just a bolt on to a phone, it's not the true hybrid device of the K-Zoom or S4 Zoom. It looks like Samsung don't have plans to produce another phone like this (though you never know)
G33RT. said:
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Lack of publicity in Europe.
I havent met anyone in Europe who knew the phone. Everyone who sees it and whom I inform about its specs is interested. Especially in its camera's capability's.
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Here I am from Rome, I quote everything you say. Now I'm just waiting my other phone (P9) to come back from service due to a broken (insured) glass and I'll send there my KZoom to change and clean the lens. This is the only drawback of such a good phone and such an extraordinary camera (I took some wonderful night pictures in Pisa, couldn't believe my eyes). As soon as it will be back I will root it and try to swap memorys.
Salva con nome said:
Here I am from Rome, I quote everything you say. Now I'm just waiting my other phone (P9) to come back from service due to a broken (insured) glass and I'll send there my KZoom to change and clean the lens. This is the only drawback of such a good phone and such an extraordinary camera (I took some wonderful night pictures in Pisa, couldn't believe my eyes). As soon as it will be back I will root it and try to swap memorys.
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I recently damaged my screen with some water. Got me a S5 mini. These are rather cheap and are quite good actually as well as water resist
Its 8mp cam doesn't perform al that bad but it doesn't compare to the K-zoom which i'm definitely going to get fixed!
Our K-zooms are going to be collectors items since there have only been made and sold few of them i believe :good:
Samsung K Zoom was the king once
Bought this phone (CM 115) for my wife the other day since it was on special and she has always wanted one ever since it was released almost two years back. She absolutely loves her new K Zoom and it's so sad to see how such a powerful phone camera is being ignored by it's developer Samsung.
This phone is amazing with how smoothly it integrates with that camera on board. Just also hope that one day there might be a little bit of something coming from Samsung for this phone in terms of OS that might make this phone more current.
I too own the Galaxy K Zoom, it's a bit...damaged - but otherwise works fine
Got it super cheap due to the digitizer being cracked near the bottom, and thought it was the greatest thing ever with that massive camera!
Played around with it for a while and yeah, it's a great phone with reasonable specs, looks like an S5 (Which never bothered me), and was the perfect blend of a "Camera Phone".
For use as a phone - perfect. In your hands it feels just like that era of Samsung Devices, then go into Camera Mode and it becomes like one of Samsungs flagship cameras. It's amazing how that switch is so well thought out.
Hex-Core, 2GB RAM, 4G/LTE etc. At first I thought it has to be more powerful, logically than the S5 but I think I maybe wrong.
Probably due to being on 4.4.2 and my S5 being on 6.0.1, there's a noticeable difference in speed and all that. The S5 is snappy whereas the K Zoom is a bit laggy.
Camera - I used it a lot for some great photos of close ups of electronics, PCBs etc. Then I kind of got a little iffy with the battery draining quick when taking a decent amount of photos and with the whole phone getting pretty warm and went to my S5 again and was happy with it.
So for 6 months it's been in my DroidDraw, (I have a lot of unusual Android based phones in there) and this was hidden at the side along with my other camera based phones like my HTC Evo 3D and Sharp Aquos 3D Camera phone (SH16?), anyway, got the K Zoom out and really made me think why did this phone fail. It is a great phone but for consumers, being bulky, looking like a reused design, an old OS etc. I think it all attributed to it becoming just one of those fad phones.
Whatever, I appreciate it for what it is. Samsung need to do another phone mix up one day. They can do it. Just need the demands for it I suppose.
So nobody made Lolipop for this phone ? How come ?

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