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[Q] Nexus 5 Sudden Battery Throttle

So, I don't know if my problem here in particular is unique or new, but this issue started about a week ago.
My Nexus 5, is rooted, and running Cyanogenmod 11, (was) running with ART Runtime, and I was getting pretty decent battery life with the phone. Usually nothing less than 2-3 hours of screen on time, with pretty typical settings (location off, sync off, etc).
Out of nowhere, about last week my battery life began to be much worse. It'll drain from full to 20% in a matter of 5 or 6 hours, and none of my usage really changed at all. I'm well aware of the mm-qcamera-daemon, but according to my battery usage page, it still isn't really in use or bothering my battery life.
What could cause this sudden change? I'm here at work plugging my phone in half way through the day, when normally I can go about 2 days without charging.
I've tried factory resetting, I've turned off ART, I've tried changing the governor on the CPU, and many other things. Is my battery simply going bad?
If anything has a solution for me, it'd be a blessing.
Thanks.

speedanderson said:
So, I don't know if my problem here in particular is unique or new, but this issue started about a week ago.
My Nexus 5, is rooted, and running Cyanogenmod 11, (was) running with ART Runtime, and I was getting pretty decent battery life with the phone. Usually nothing less than 2-3 hours of screen on time, with pretty typical settings (location off, sync off, etc).
Out of nowhere, about last week my battery life began to be much worse. It'll drain from full to 20% in a matter of 5 or 6 hours, and none of my usage really changed at all. I'm well aware of the mm-qcamera-daemon, but according to my battery usage page, it still isn't really in use or bothering my battery life.
What could cause this sudden change? I'm here at work plugging my phone in half way through the day, when normally I can go about 2 days without charging.
I've tried factory resetting, I've turned off ART, I've tried changing the governor on the CPU, and many other things. Is my battery simply going bad?
If anything has a solution for me, it'd be a blessing.
Thanks.
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If i was on your place I'd return it back to stock and see how my phone would react. Afterwards if issue has to do anything with hardware I'd unroot + relock bootloader and give it to my provider for a warranty and explain them my problems.

MaCroX95 said:
If i was on your place I'd return it back to stock and see how my phone would react. Afterwards if issue has to do anything with hardware I'd unroot + relock bootloader and give it to my provider for a warranty and explain them my problems.
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Hmm..
That's not a bad idea. I think I'll flash stock back on to it when I get home tonight. You know, I have insurance on the phone, but I was expecting to have to exchange it for breaking the phone's screen, not for my battery going bad. I hope Stock ROM fixes the problem, or hell.. maybe whenever 4.4.3 ROMs start coming out, that might do the trick to. I've been careful to take care of this phone, since I broke my Nexus 4 two months after I got it.
Thanks.

speedanderson said:
Hmm..
That's not a bad idea. I think I'll flash stock back on to it when I get home tonight. You know, I have insurance on the phone, but I was expecting to have to exchange it for breaking the phone's screen, not for my battery going bad. I hope Stock ROM fixes the problem, or hell.. maybe whenever 4.4.3 ROMs start coming out, that might do the trick to. I've been careful to take care of this phone, since I broke my Nexus 4 two months after I got it.
Thanks.
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You're welcome. I hope that you solve your problem as soon as possible. If you take a look how your phone does with stock on your diagnose of a problem would be much easier and from than on if the problem was in software you can try some other roms and kernels. I personally am not really a fan of cyanogenmod 11 at least not for nexus 5 since I've had few bugs using for a few days.

MaCroX95 said:
You're welcome. I hope that you solve your problem as soon as possible. If you take a look how your phone does with stock on your diagnose of a problem would be much easier and from than on if the problem was in software you can try some other roms and kernels. I personally am not really a fan of cyanogenmod 11 at least not for nexus 5 since I've had few bugs using for a few days.
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Well, I really liked Paranoid Android for my Nexus 4, and I've had no issues until recently with CM11. :\
I guess stock is going to be my best bet though. I just really hope I can deal with the battery drain issue from mm-qcamera-daemon or whatever.

speedanderson said:
Well, I really liked Paranoid Android for my Nexus 4, and I've had no issues until recently with CM11. :\
I guess stock is going to be my best bet though. I just really hope I can deal with the battery drain issue from mm-qcamera-daemon or whatever.
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I've been using SlimKat in combination with Faux's custom kernel for a few days now and I must say that peformance is as smooth as it was never before, speed is absolutely phenomenal and my battery life is more than pleasing (around 24H + 3-4 Hrs of screen on time).

MaCroX95 said:
I've been using SlimKat in combination with Faux's custom kernel for a few days now and I must say that peformance is as smooth as it was never before, speed is absolutely phenomenal and my battery life is more than pleasing (around 24H + 3-4 Hrs of screen on time).
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Well, that sounds like exactly I want. I'm not opposed to trying another custom ROM either. Can you PM me a link to the thread with whatever particular build you're using?
If it's efficient and up to 4 hours of on screen time, sounds like exactly what I need.
I'm more than happy to ditch my ROM if I can get better performance, haha.

speedanderson said:
Well, that sounds like exactly I want. I'm not opposed to trying another custom ROM either. Can you PM me a link to the thread with whatever particular build you're using?
If it's efficient and up to 4 hours of on screen time, sounds like exactly what I need.
I'm more than happy to ditch my ROM if I can get better performance, haha.
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ROM: http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/d...4-slim-hammerhead-4-4-2-build-4-official-3700
KERNEL: http://faux.romhost.me/hammerhead/kk44/
I'm using non-ultimate version of the kernel which means that it doesn't support overclocking and I'm also using a bit older build which is very stable and works flawlessly for me.

Ah, great. I'm actually going to download it now, while I'm here at work. Also, does this particular ROM work at all with ART Runtime, because if possible, I'd like to continue using it.

speedanderson said:
Ah, great. I'm actually going to download it now, while I'm here at work. Also, does this particular ROM work at all with ART Runtime, because if possible, I'd like to continue using it.
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It does support ART. I didn't try it on this ROM though so I cannot tell exactly whether it's working or not. You'll have to test it by yourself but I am pretty sure that if your phone doesn't have any hardware issues that you won't be disappointed with the performance of ROM + Kernel with or without ART! Hit thanks if I helped you anyhow :laugh:
PS: Though since the ART is still in beta phase of development there is a possibility that it has caused you so much trouble with battery =)

speedanderson said:
So, I don't know if my problem here in particular is unique or new, but this issue started about a week ago.
My Nexus 5, is rooted, and running Cyanogenmod 11, (was) running with ART Runtime, and I was getting pretty decent battery life with the phone. Usually nothing less than 2-3 hours of screen on time, with pretty typical settings (location off, sync off, etc).
Out of nowhere, about last week my battery life began to be much worse. It'll drain from full to 20% in a matter of 5 or 6 hours, and none of my usage really changed at all. I'm well aware of the mm-qcamera-daemon, but according to my battery usage page, it still isn't really in use or bothering my battery life.
What could cause this sudden change? I'm here at work plugging my phone in half way through the day, when normally I can go about 2 days without charging.
I've tried factory resetting, I've turned off ART, I've tried changing the governor on the CPU, and many other things. Is my battery simply going bad?
If anything has a solution for me, it'd be a blessing.
Thanks.
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Batteries Can't throttle. However the do degrade with use. You can replace the battery with ease.

Latest Software still causing battery drain?

I have read on various forums that the latest software update has been causing problematic battery drain on the M8 and more often the Verizon version. I briefly had one about a month ago but had to return it due to some contract issues. Now I am looking to get another as I really liked it. I did however notice that the battery did drain pretty fast when I had mine. It had the latest 4.4.2 software on it. If I root it, can I install an older ROM and have the great battery life return? Are there any tips on what was causing the issue? I see AT&T actually pulled the Kitkat update due to battery issues several months ago.
Thanks for the info,
Rob

No battery drain on my device. I'm on all stock Verizon and I did a factory reset after the 4.4.4 update. Battery life is excellent and I get through a 24 hr work shift with about 20 percent battery left, about 3 hrs SOT. I'm sure you can get an older ROM version by asking in the thread of the ROM you choose if it isn't available in the OP. Many fine folks here keep old copies. Good luck buddy!

bjoostema said:
No battery drain on my device. I'm on all stock Verizon and I did a factory reset after the 4.4.4 update. Battery life is excellent and I get through a 24 hr work shift with about 20 percent battery left, about 3 hrs SOT. I'm sure you can get an older ROM version by asking in the thread of the ROM you choose if it isn't available in the OP. Many fine folks here keep old copies. Good luck buddy!
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Thanks I appreciate the reply.

The oldest ROM it originally came with is 4.4.2 so I don't know how much that would help your case. Maybe the newest 4.4.4 can help if you still have problems on 4.4.2 on your new phone (if it isn't 4.4.4 already)

I've had the phone since release date and never had a battery drain issue. The battery life was great at launch and has gotten a bit better with firmware releases.

Before I had the M8 I had a Gnex. On that Gnex android 4.4.4 would cause the phone to get very warm and increased battery drain. It doesn't surprise me that it does it on the M8 as well.

I didn't see any battery drain on 4.4.2, 4.4.3, or 4.4.4.

Pfft with all the ROMs out and kernels to help who needs battery drain.
HTC One M8

After the update, my battery life dropped by an honest 50%.
I dont use my phone much and used to get 6 days on a charge, now I only get 3.
I realize that's more than most and I should not complain, but still.
I also had to reset my phone due to problems with pictures in my previously recieved texts not opening.
The reset obviously did not help my battery problem.
Cam

6 days per charge? Haha what?

theclash150 said:
6 days per charge? Haha what?
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It's true, I'm older & only use a phone to make calls, & a few texts.
No social media stuff or anything like that, all Forum stuff is done on a tablet or computer.

Battery Life Terrible Suddenly

Hey guys, quick question. All the sudden I'd say over the last month or so my battery life has been horrible. I used to go a day and a half roughly with normal use until I had 20% or less battery life. All the sudden now with no changes made to the phone (no new apps, ROM, etc.) the battery life is terrible. I am lucky to get 16 hours with the same usage before the battery is 20% or less. The only change was that I bought a quick charge 2.0 charger (this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QTJZ3D0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00 ). I'd say I used this charger for about 3-4 weeks until the battery life was noticeably bad. Is it possible that this charger has actually damaged my battery and if so I am assuming it is irreversible since it is a non-removable battery? Thanks.

I have also noticed this.. but since I hadn't left it on stock ROM but for a day or so.. I cannot say that it is the new firmware or the ROM I'm using.. I have also seen a LOT of posting about this issue.. LP 5.x.x has a few bugs that are pretty bad headaches to deal with.... hopefully fixes come out for these issues... mainly (in my case anyway) battery life and data connection speeds

OdinValknir said:
I have also noticed this.. but since I hadn't left it on stock ROM but for a day or so.. I cannot say that it is the new firmware or the ROM I'm using.. I have also seen a LOT of posting about this issue.. LP 5.x.x has a few bugs that are pretty bad headaches to deal with.... hopefully fixes come out for these issues... mainly (in my case anyway) battery life and data connection speeds
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Thanks for the reply. I am using CleanROM 3.0 KitKat, been using it for a long time now and all the sudden it's bad now. Like I said, no changes made, I'm stumped

real life review...5 months later...and rant

Hi guys. I have had the G4 XT1625 since September 2016. Bought it unlocked at best buy. The screen on my G3 shattered so I thought I would upgrade.
First off it was an upgrade in terms of speed and resolution. I would pretty much say it stops there. I have had every Moto G since first gen. My Verizon G is still up on the shelf as an emergency backup. Hated the second gen. Loved the G3. I expected the G4 to be a great improvement I was mistaken.
Here's where the rant starts.
My major issue straight up is the size. Why so large? It doesn't even fit in the cup holders in my car. But that's a personal opinion.
Next issue I have experienced is it's just straight up NOT reliable. I use my phone for everything, work and play. It gets so hot it bogs down. Random reboots and sometimes just doesn't do what I want it to do. Nothing on Android but it's just not as good as the G3 was.
The phone just has problems. Ghost touch is dumb. I had to get the battery replaced because it wouldn't hold a charge. Apparently according to support don't use the supplied turbo charger. WTF right? It comes back in a couple days for repair for the power button breaking. That's horrible after only a couple months. I feel like the phone isn't made for people who use it all the time.
So now I have a Galaxy S5 and it's good with more support on XDA. I appreciate everyone's opinions if you wish to comment but I am just giving my real life review.
Keep up the good work XDA.

I had nearly the same bad experience with my zuk z1. Bad fp sensor, Bad digitizer, very bad support from manufacturer. Now I'm on g4 plus and totally happy.

Sounds like the OP bought a lemon. No such issues with mine, it's a great phone.
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Love this phone, but have to be honest.. first one had DOA fingerprint reader. Hoping no trouble with this one, as always root. Super value, and my first with a FPR, which is really convenient.

I upgraded from a Nexus 5, I haven't noticed any such issues that the OP had, the only issue I had was trying to update to Nougat without unlocking my bootloader, but when the Fastboot flashable files were released I resolved that issue, compared to any other Moto G I've had, I've noticed huge improvements in both speed and reliability, I enjoy the larger screen and speed improvements even vs the Nexus 5, same amount of RAM between the two, only real difference I can see is the processor.

I am on stock rom and i get only 3-3.5 hr sot a day , on lineage os i got only 2 hr a day
i dont get how people say the battry life is great
if it werent for the turbo charger id kill myself
anyone feel me !?

Muzam said:
I am on stock rom and i get only 3-3.5 hr sot a day , on lineage os i got only 2 hr a day
i dont get how people say the battry life is great
if it werent for the turbo charger id kill myself
anyone feel me !?
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Single problem, can't confirm.

strongst said:
Single problem, can't confirm.
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Good stats , which rom ?
maybe its due to 4g!?

Muzam said:
Good stats , which rom ?
maybe its due to 4g!?
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LineageOS OMS 20170124, official build has not a modified kernel, so I can't reach 6h.
What do you mean with 4g?

strongst said:
LineageOS OMS 20170124, official build has not a modified kernel, so I can't reach 6h.
What do you mean with 4g?
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4g network (VOLTE)
i tried your rom , felt some choppiness in ui so installed the official lineage
where i had a bad standby drain

Muzam said:
4g network (VOLTE)
i tried your rom , felt some choppiness in ui so installed the official lineage
where i had a bad standby drain
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I set animations to 0 without any ui lag. I use Nova Launcher. I'm using 4g too, but not for volte calls(Germany isn't a volte friendly country )

strongst said:
I set animations to 0 without any ui lag. I use Nova Launcher. I'm using 4g too, but not for volte calls(Germany isn't a volte friendly country )
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I thought the default anim speed is 1
Or did you turn off the anim

Muzam said:
I thought the default anim speed is 1
Or did you turn off the anim
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Yeah I mean off, I don't have time to watch or wait for animations

I think the comments in the thread got off topic. I used the phone much more screen on time than most people. Upwards of 4-5 hours or more a day. On LTE and I commute. So for comparison most people don't push a phone like I do.
Moto decided to not repair my device. Actually gave me a new one. Side note on that...my old one had been bootloader unlocked and they replaced it instead of repair. Gave it to the GF since it's better than her old phone and she doesnt use it near as much as me.
So far GS5 has been working fine lasting longer than the G did and was the same price with more stuff.
Thank you everyone for your opinion.

daverobinson88 said:
I think the comments in the thread got off topic. I used the phone much more screen on time than most people. Upwards of 4-5 hours or more a day. On LTE and I commute. So for comparison most people don't push a phone like I do.
Moto decided to not repair my device. Actually gave me a new one. Side note on that...my old one had been bootloader unlocked and they replaced it instead of repair. Gave it to the GF since it's better than her old phone and she doesnt use it near as much as me.
So far GS5 has been working fine lasting longer than the G did and was the same price with more stuff.
Thank you everyone for your opinion.
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You're not the only one using the phone more the 5h sot https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLZ0lKNTVYaVowRG8 you should have a look in the other rom threads too

strongst said:
You're not the only one using the phone more the 5h sot https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLZ0lKNTVYaVowRG8 you should have a look in the other rom threads too
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There is a difference between screen on time and actively using it during that time. I have tried multiple Roms. Lineage was definitely the best but kept going back to stock because they just aren't stable enough to be used constantly in the business environment. I have also looked through multiple threads and articles. Seems common issues with the battery and overall issues with the phone itself.
I still stand by my review of Moto could have done a lot better with the device.

daverobinson88 said:
There is a difference between screen on time and actively using it during that time.
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Of course, I don't use it 7h permanent. It's also dependent what you're doing while screen on. Gaming sucks more then surfing for example. That should be clear. That's what most people don't understand. It's like driving a car and want to reach the nedc. Everybody gets different consumption values. And therefore you must be careful with comparing different devices, rom and software for sot. @1chrome said it today also.
Everybody should accept everybodys opinion. I do it too. Your review is OK, but keep in mind that it seems you're a minority with your mentiond problems on this device

This device can give me atleast 4hrs of sot based on my usage which is not good but not bad either, I feel more let down by "ghost touch" and that easily scratch able camera glass than the battery life. Apart from that this is a decent performer and I like how it looks, 3 things I love about this device is,
1. The display, it's awesome
2. The front firing speaker, it has more depth compared to any other speaker I have used and I love speakers that have more depth than noise.
3. The fingerprint scanner's position, it's really where it needs to be, again a personal preference.
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Abysmal battery life.

I have run out of ideas. I have uninstalled apps, repaired the OS, done everything I can think of. The battery life of this phone is the worst I have ever experienced in a phone. I can barely get a day out of this phone (2hrs 30 SOT). I'm at my wit's end. Is it just my device or do others experience this. And does anyone have any idea what I can do?

Unfortunately Sony doesn't pack much into their batteries and software does take a toll. I had a Huawei P9 and P10 Plus and I would get a solid day of heavy use, with my XZ I can't make it to early evening with comparable usage. I prefer Sony handsets to all others, but I have to agree with you in that battery life is crap.

enrique71 said:
Unfortunately Sony doesn't pack much into their batteries and software does take a toll. I had a Huawei P9 and P10 Plus and I would get a solid day of heavy use, with my XZ I can't make it to early evening with comparable usage. I prefer Sony handsets to all others, but I have to agree with you in that battery life is crap.
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Yeah, but it wasn't always like this. I used the Z2 and it had great battery life and I also used a Z3 dual and it's battery life was even better. Compared to those 2, the XZ's battery life is shockingly bad. I used to get 6-7 hrs SOT on my Z3, 2 hrs is a struggle on this phone.

Check for phone idle battery drain it nukes my battery since 7.1

dante2086 said:
I have run out of ideas. I have uninstalled apps, repaired the OS, done everything I can think of. The battery life of this phone is the worst I have ever experienced in a phone. I can barely get a day out of this phone (2hrs 30 SOT). I'm at my wit's end. Is it just my device or do others experience this. And does anyone have any idea what I can do?
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After the last update (1st August release) my phone runs 5 h sot with no problem - 2 days of usage.

lukem99626 said:
Check for phone idle battery drain it nukes my battery since 7.1
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The phone idle battery drain has been high since 7.1 for me as well. I thought it was an app. But I uninstalled every app that might cause that, and yet...

Przemmo73 said:
After the last update (1st August release) my phone runs 5 h sot with no problem - 2 days of usage.
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What's the build number for that update?

dante2086 said:
What's the build number for that update?
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41.2.A.7.53

Przemmo73 said:
41.2.A.7.53
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Still on .35, I'll wait for the update and see if it helps.

dante2086 said:
Still on .35, I'll wait for the update and see if it helps.
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Make sure you do a factory reset after the update.
You will thank me for it later.
Also if you want to seriously see major peeofmance and battery improvement, you need to root and installtlal duality dra4.
People are achieving 5-10hour sot with 24-48hours usage.
The experience in this rom is night and day compared to stock.
Stock ROM is complete turd.
I'm giving you this information from my first hand experience. You need this rom, else you will continue to be disappointed I know this.
Why do I know, well I've been with Sony for 5years and haven't rooted for the passed 2 years until now. It's a must to root this phone else it's merely mediocre.
However the choice is yours

dillalade said:
Make sure you do a factory reset after the update.
You will thank me for it later.
Also if you want to seriously see major peeofmance and battery improvement, you need to root and installtlal duality dra4.
People are achieving 5-10hour sot with 24-48hours usage.
The experience in this rom is night and day compared to stock.
Stock ROM is complete turd.
I'm giving you this information from my first hand experience. You need this rom, else you will continue to be disappointed I know this.
Why do I know, well I've been with Sony for 5years and haven't rooted for the passed 2 years until now. It's a must to root this phone else it's merely mediocre.
+1 ...man this is all thru... i have same xperience with Sony devices...i had xperia z,z2,z5 and now xz and since z5 everything is going down...less battery life...same speakers since z2...very bad loudspeaker its so low that even a low budget phone beats it.. also OVERHEATING badlly...but the design of the phone is way better then any competition atleast for me...and also xz is very durbale phone it fellt 5 times already on concrete also 2 times fell directly on the screen and nothing is broken yet...screen has only 2 little scratches and of course all corners are beaten up a little bit hehehe over all very durable trust me...this new plastic that they use is so good...and at the end i really must say that rootin is a must for this phone cuz since i got it i had constant problems with stock rom, specialy with ram usage it gave me lags all the time but now i use custom rom and xz is flying like it should.
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Install wakelock detector or betterbatterystats and check what's draining your battery. This phone should easily achieve 1 day battery life. I'm getting 3,5-4 of Ingress (AR game that uses GPS+Mobile Data+screen on - so it's hard to drain more)m and about 5sot with normal use