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Quick question about going from 4.1 to 4.4 (Been gone for a while)

So like the title says I have been out of the ROM game for a little bit. Every couple of months I check in and see whats new and flash something else.
I was on the Jelly Beans ROM (Build 16 I think) and Android 4.1. I did some searching last night as was going to try flashing Gummy ROM…bad idea. I am guessing I needed something prior to jumping up to a 4.4 base. I booted to recovery and wiped everything and tried to flash with no luck. So the phone would not boot and I could only get into recovery and download mode. I did not have my micro SD adapter in order to get jelly beans back on it to flash so I ended up having to use odin to flash a stock rooted 4.1 image. Finally got everything back up and running but I still want to try some of the 4.4 ROMs. So what exactly do I need first in order to flash one? (Modem maybe)…if you know for sure why that happened and what I need to do please let me know. Thanks!
My Current "About Phone" Info...
Android Version - 4.1.2
Baseband version - I535VRBMB1
Jelly Beans - Build 20
P.S. I have tried doing the research and nothing I have found has been clear but one thing I came across is the official 4.3 update was bad news and broke the root methods? So should I stay away from 4.3 ROMs and is the old root method blocked in 4.4 as well or is that a different case since it wasn't actually released for our phone. If that makes sense lol

aholeinthewor1d said:
So like the title says I have been out of the ROM game for a little bit. Every couple of months I check in and see whats new and flash something else.
I was on the Jelly Beans ROM (Build 16 I think) and Android 4.1. I did some searching last night as was going to try flashing Gummy ROM…bad idea. I am guessing I needed something prior to jumping up to a 4.4 base. I booted to recovery and wiped everything and tried to flash with no luck. So the phone would not boot and I could only get into recovery and download mode. I did not have my micro SD adapter in order to get jelly beans back on it to flash so I ended up having to use odin to flash a stock rooted 4.1 image. Finally got everything back up and running but I still want to try some of the 4.4 ROMs. So what exactly do I need first in order to flash one? (Modem maybe)…if you know for sure why that happened and what I need to do please let me know. Thanks!
My Current "About Phone" Info...
Android Version - 4.1.2
Baseband version - I535VRBMB1
Jelly Beans - Build 20
P.S. I have tried doing the research and nothing I have found has been clear but one thing I came across is the official 4.3 update was bad news and broke the root methods? So should I stay away from 4.3 ROMs and is the old root method blocked in 4.4 as well or is that a different case since it wasn't actually released for our phone. If that makes sense lol
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you need the latest recoveries to flash kk roms. cwm is here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and twrp is here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/102. make sure you download the d2vzw version
if you're rooted you should have no problems flashing 4.4 rom. I recommend beanstalk from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354113. has worked great for me. you have to also update the modem to ML1 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788313
as always do a nandroid before you do anything and you should backup your sd card to your computer. they probably will move post this to another thread.
good luck

dandydon414 said:
you need the latest recoveries to flash kk roms. cwm is here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and twrp is here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/102. make sure you download the d2vzw version
if you're rooted you should have no problems flashing 4.4 rom. I recommend beanstalk from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354113. has worked great for me. you have to also update the modem to ML1 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788313
as always do a nandroid before you do anything and you should backup your sd card to your computer. they probably will move post this to another thread.
good luck
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ahh I didn't even think of that? I do know for a fact whatever version of CWM i had was not recent..Are you sure that is the only issue? so with a newer recovery...like I have now that I fixed my phone..I can flash a 4.4 ROM no problem? I could have sworn I remember hearing something about needing a certain modem...or something similar

aholeinthewor1d said:
ahh I didn't even think of that? I do know for a fact whatever version of CWM i had was not recent..Are you sure that is the only issue? so with a newer recovery...like I have now that I fixed my phone..I can flash a 4.4 ROM no problem? I could have sworn I remember hearing something about needing a certain modem...or something similar
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yes. flash the ML1 modem. I provided the link in my previous post. it's a fact that earlier recoveries won't flash kk roms. I found out the hard way myself. hopefully you'll have titanium or rom toolbox to backup your apps with data.

dandydon414 said:
yes. flash the ML1 modem. I provided the link in my previous post. it's a fact that earlier recoveries won't flash kk roms. I found out the hard way myself. hopefully you'll have titanium or rom toolbox to backup your apps with data.
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Thanks a lot!!.. So how do I know if my recovery is new enough? I was never a fan of the touch recoveries because I felt like it would be easier to do something on accident so I haven't tried one in a while...I am using clockwork mod recovery 6.0.4.5. Is that new enough??
Also one lasttttt question I swear...can someone give me a quick list of the different recovery options that are out there now...and maybe list some features of each...thank you

aholeinthewor1d said:
Thanks a lot!!.. So how do I know if my recovery is new enough? I was never a fan of the touch recoveries because I felt like it would be easier to do something on accident so I haven't tried one in a while...I am using clockwork mod recovery 6.0.4.5. Is that new enough??
Also one lasttttt question I swear...can someone give me a quick list of the different recovery options that are out there now...and maybe list some features of each...thank you
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that recovery is fine. i've only used cwm and twrp.. had some problems with philz recovery so I ditched it. basically they're all the same. twrp lets you name your back where as cwm just uses some default name which of course you can change with a file manager. twrp also wipes all 3 (system, cache and dalvik) with one swipe where as cwm requires 3 separate operations. I really haven't done much in recovery other than wiping and flashing. I'm actually on the latest twrp and have had no problems flashing kk roms. keep in mind that you can't backup in cwm and restore it using twrp and vice versa. it's really more a personal preference as far as I'm concerned.

Unable to upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2

Failed to upgrade my tab, GT-P5113, from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 using either Omni or CM11 rom. The error indicated my device is espressor10wifi and new rom are either for espressor10rf or espressor10rfxx. How do I change to either RF or RFXXX? TIA.

hvn4179 said:
Failed to upgrade my tab, GT-P5113, from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 using either Omni or CM11 rom. The error indicated my device is espressor10wifi and new rom are either for espressor10rf or espressor10rfxx. How do I change to either RF or RFXXX? TIA.
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update your recovery to the latest from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548476 then go here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571498 and follow OP directions. Report back accordingly

CSP III said:
update your recovery to the latest from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548476 then go here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571498 and follow OP directions. Report back accordingly
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I have a p5110. Every 4.4.2 rom I try to install I only get to the boot screen. Does it tak a long time for it to boot up the first time? Now that I tried 4.4.2 I can only revert back to a few different roms mainly CM9 and AKOP 4.1.1. No sure what I am doing wrong when I am following all the step other than just not being patient enough for it to start up. I've let it try to boot for at least 5 minutes though.

btbarr16 said:
I have a p5110. Every 4.4.2 rom I try to install I only get to the boot screen. Does it tak a long time for it to boot up the first time? Now that I tried 4.4.2 I can only revert back to a few different roms mainly CM9 and AKOP 4.1.1. No sure what I am doing wrong when I am following all the step other than just not being patient enough for it to start up. I've let it try to boot for at least 5 minutes though.
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Not too long. Couple minutes max. You sure you are using the latest update recovery, whether it be TWRP, CWM or Philz. has to be the latest for KK Roms

CSP III said:
Not too long. Couple minutes max. You sure you are using the latest update recovery, whether it be TWRP, CWM or Philz. has to be the latest for KK Roms[/QUOTE
I'm using CWM 6.0.4.7. I used to have CM10 working on it, but now I can't even go back to that.
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btbarr16 said:
CSP III said:
Not too long. Couple minutes max. You sure you are using the latest update recovery, whether it be TWRP, CWM or Philz. has to be the latest for KK Roms[/QUOTE
I'm using CWM 6.0.4.7. I used to have CM10 working on it, but now I can't even go back to that.
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I dont believe (i could be wrong mind you) that you can restore previous recovery back up from updated recovery. You should just back up your apps with Titanium Backup, move the whole folder to a safe place (ie: computer) Odin back to stock and work up from there. Then put your Titanium folder back and restore user apps only. Good luck
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btbarr16 said:
CSP III said:
Not too long. Couple minutes max. You sure you are using the latest update recovery, whether it be TWRP, CWM or Philz. has to be the latest for KK Roms[/QUOTE
I'm using CWM 6.0.4.7. I used to have CM10 working on it, but now I can't even go back to that.
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you have to update your recovery. so that u can flash these kitkat roms... i found the recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548257
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Pay attention that the correct recovery is been used. It happened to me, I had a p5500 recovery on my p5113 and ran into the same issue.
Pp .
sent from my P5113 using TouchPal mind control keyboard.

[Q] Upgrading from 4.1?

My TF700 is bogged down pretty hard and randomly freezing/rebooting so time to upgrade from Cleanrom 3.4.1 (JB 4.1) to whatever is out there now. It has been a few years since messing with roming and don't want to screw anything up. I also did some searching but didn't find anything on this specifically.
I see twrp is the way to go now for recovery but I am running cwm 6.4.x I think? I forgot since rebooting and looking. Anyways, I can just use adb per the instructions and re-flash twrp over the cwm then flash a KK rom right? I just want to make sure because my GS3 has to be reverted then something changed then re-updated...something crazy to not brick it and I obviously don't want to happen.

First of all you need to determine what your botloader version is. It's probably outdated if you've been on a CleanROM. You need to have the 10.6.1.14.10 bootloader if you want to flash a KK rom.
The easiest way to uograde your BL is to grab the BL/TWRP package from the OP of the CROMi-X thread in Development and flash it in your current recovery.
Reboot to let it install, then boot to recovery and check the version number. I forgot what TWRP version sbdags packaged in that file. If it is TWRP 2.6.0.1 go to the Teamwin website, downlaod TWRP 2.8.0.1 and flash it in fastboot.
Then you need to do a full factory wipe in TWRP (default under the Wipe command) and then you can flash the KK rom.
For general instructions read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688891

A little confused. It sounds from your message that I can flash the new recovery? The thread you sent me to said to flash in fastboot. I only ask because I don't have a windows box handy and am lazy.
Thanks for the help!
edit* - refamiliarizing myself with the terminology and starting to get it again.

Fastboot was kind of a pain to get working but once it had connection and I learned how to use it, worked like a charm. Thanks a ton!
Have CM11 working on my tab now. It has been in pretty desperate need for some time now.

lowriderdog37 said:
Fastboot was kind of a pain to get working but once it had connection and I learned how to use it, worked like a charm. Thanks a ton!
Have CM11 working on my tab now. It has been in pretty desperate need for some time now.
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If you're in the mood for it, nandroid CM11 and try ZOMBi-X. I love it!

safestrap & TWRP... at same time?

ok. is it even possible to have two recoveries running at once? On normal boot-up, I get the safestrap screen asking to continue or enter recovery. I have flashed TWRP and I can get to TWRP by fastbooting and entering recovery that way. I feel i have set myself up to brick in the hard sense. I just unlocked w/ sunshine and am trying to make a backup before i really start screwing stuff up.

If you're unlocked with TWRP then safestrap is redundant since you can't utilize the extra ROM slots.
Sent from my XT1080

that was kind of my thoughts too. I did remove safestrap manually. Im still tying to update with the latest OTA, but with no luck. thanks.

teerout said:
that was kind of my thoughts too. I did remove safestrap manually. Im still tying to update with the latest OTA, but with no luck. thanks.
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The update isn't going through because you have TWRP installed. Flash to stock recovery and try again.

Sorry I left that out, I have removed TWRP. I have returned to as stock as I can. Flashed back to factory. Still no success on OTA update. Im hunting for the files now and i will hopefully flash it myself.

Moto Droid Maxx firmware found here->https://motorola-global-portal.cust..._detail/a_id/95417/p/30,6720,8882/reg/1192476 - you have to sign in...

[Q] stuck in bootloop while installing elementalx.help!!!

i was installing elementalx on my nexus 5 via cwm. after going through the installer it asked if i wanted to fix root as i would lose it otherwise. i clicked yes. after that it started rebooting but got stuck on google. then went black. then again it showed google and is still looping. please help!!!

Try clearing cache by going to recovery.... Else my man you might need to flash stock again .....
To shutdown the phone press volume down and power till the time you get 3 vibrations

Dirty flash the ROM your on. What ROM did you flash EX on top of?

1) Download and flash the latest TWRP recovery.
2) Reflash your ROM. (Wipe cache and Dalvik)
3) Reflash ElementalX.
4) Never use CWM again. (It's completely outdated and is problematic with Lollipop).

BirchBarlow said:
4) Never use CWM again. (It's completely outdated and is problematic with Lollipop).
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You know, it' funny. I keep hearing people say that but it still works fine for me. Maybe I'm just lucky. I've had way fewer issues with CWM than I've had with TWRP. There both good recoveries and TWRP is more current but to say CWM doesn't work is false.

theesotericone said:
You know, it' funny. I keep hearing people say that but it still works fine for me. Maybe I'm just lucky. I've had way fewer issues with CWM than I've had with TWRP. There both good recoveries and TWRP is more current but to say CWM doesn't work is false.
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It was the other way round for me.... Twrp gave me issues .... I always use cwm touch .... Works good for me

i was on stock
BirchBarlow said:
1) Download and flash the latest TWRP recovery.
2) Reflash your ROM. (Wipe cache and Dalvik)
3) Reflash ElementalX.
4) Never use CWM again. (It's completely outdated and is problematic with Lollipop).
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i am on stock so will i have to install the 5.0.1 factory image. also once in a while green screen comes asking whether to reboot or go into dload mode. also do i flash twrp before the factory image. can you tell me how this is done via pc as i was using flashify.

thanks guys
thanks guys it worked. i flashed stock and its working perfectly. thanks.

theesotericone said:
You know, it' funny. I keep hearing people say that but it still works fine for me. Maybe I'm just lucky. I've had way fewer issues with CWM than I've had with TWRP. There both good recoveries and TWRP is more current but to say CWM doesn't work is false.
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I didn't say it doesn't work, I said it's problematic. I believe CWM is built on JB, so incompatibilities exist with KK and LP. For example, when you exit CWM whether you are rooted or not, it will tell you that you have a problem with root and offer to fix it. This is because CWM can't detect the SuperSU binary, it doesn't search the right place. Therefore novice users will say select okay causing CWM to install an outdated version of the SuperSU binary into the wrong location causing all sorts of problems with KK or LP. This is just one example of why it's better to just avoid CWM. TWRP is current and backward compatible. CWM is practically ancient.

1. CWM lacks functionality
2. CWM uses outdated legacy location of /data/media rather than /data/media/0 as sdcard/internal storage
3. CWM's option to "fix root" actually breaks root (and possibly other things)

BirchBarlow said:
I didn't say it doesn't work, I said it's problematic. I believe CWM is built on JB, so incompatibilities exist with KK and LP. For example, when you exit CWM whether you are rooted or not, it will tell you that you have a problem with root and offer to fix it. This is because CWM can't detect the SuperSU binary, it doesn't search the right place. Therefore novice users will say select okay causing CWM to install an outdated version of the SuperSU binary into the wrong location causing all sorts of problems with KK or LP. This is just one example of why it's better to just avoid CWM. TWRP is current and backward compatible. CWM is practically ancient.
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Lethargy said:
1. CWM lacks functionality
2. CWM uses outdated legacy location of /data/media rather than /data/media/0 as sdcard/internal storage
3. CWM's option to "fix root" actually breaks root (and possibly other things)
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I never really thought about it from a noob stand point so there is that. With me it works but I will stop publicly saying so after this post. You guys do bring up valid points and I'm just used to using it. TWRP back when had loads of issues so I steered very clear of it for a long time. Now it seems the tables are turned. I know eventually I'll have to make the switch but for now I'm still happy with playfulgods swipeable build of CWM. You both have my respect for trying to steer users down a more user friendly option.

theesotericone said:
I never really thought about it from a noob stand point so there is that. With me it works but I will stop publicly saying so after this post. You guys do bring up valid points and I'm just used to using it. TWRP back when had loads of issues so I steered very clear of it for a long time. Now it seems the tables are turned. I know eventually I'll have to make the switch but for now I'm still happy with playfulgods swipeable build of CWM. You both have my respect for trying to steer users down a more user friendly option.
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Hey, what works for you, works (until it breaks, of course).
But for newer users, TWRP is now recommended as it's more friendly, as well as being up-to-date. CWM has had it's time.