Hello everyone. Recently I was tasked at work to redesign and office space and attempting to use a program to lay out and then provide a 3d rendering of the proposed space. turned out to be a nightmare for me. I work in a facility that is not updated their computer systems since 2005 I ended up making everything work but I had to do it on my phone. My question without HML support is there any way to turn a smartphone reasonably to function like a desktop PC?
So far all I have found is Microsoft's miracast. Most likely have to buy a bluetooth keyboard mouse.
But I want to know if anybody else has tried this what worked what didn't. My goal would be to plug my phone into my monitor at work so I can actually do something. so HDMI is a must.
Hardware found:
https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/wireless-display-adapterPlease help
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Miracast-Video-Adapter-Supports/dp/B00HFAEBWG
what do you need to do at work and why didnt you onsider a hromeast?
Chromecast requires a wifi router. Miracast the phone communicates to the dongle directly. This removes some variables you can not plan for ie. Crappie or no wifi. I only need an HDMI display, a miracast device and my phone and I can work, display, present. Ideally with the two items that fit in my pocket. Especially without having to try and sign on to a WiFi network that may or may not work. Making it so I could walk into any room plug it into the TV connect with my phone and begin.
To be honest with you I recently got into it with my boss. I told him that I can do more on my phone than on the s*** computers they give us. And I kind of want to prove it.
jpetrach said:
Chromecast requires a wifi router. Miracast the phone communicates to the dongle directly. This removes some variables you can not plan for ie. Crappie or no wifi. I only need an HDMI display, a miracast device and my phone and I can work, display, present. Ideally with the two items that fit in my pocket. Especially without having to try and sign on to a WiFi network that may or may not work. Making it so I could walk into any room plug it into the TV connect with my phone and begin.
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with the new guest mode on hromeast you an ast diretly without needing to be onneted to a wifi network
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with the new guest mode on hromeast you an ast diretly without needing to be onneted to a wifi network
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What? Haha
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Something about sniffing crack out of a
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This would be really cool. Only phone I have known of that has these features is the old Motorola atrix. Maybe look into one of those new devices like IBM's pc stick. It's basically a donggle that plugs in via hdmi and as a full OS installed on it.
Today I tested the screenbeam 2 http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Wireless-Receiver-SBWD60A01/dp/B00O14JG2Y
Watched transcendence and great picture only got jumpy 2/3 times. Very minor lag. Some ppl reported the dongle gets hot this is true. Uses a lot of battery wifi direct phone was placed on a wireless charger and still dropped 20% during the hour plus movie. Tomorrow I'm testing a method of making the display more "desktop like" for my proposed use at work. Need to connect bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Along with some phone system tweeks. I could not get connected to my chromecast without the router.
Still looking for input from anyone who has tried this.
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Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
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Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
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I don't see it happening. Definitely not with the consoles, opens up a whole HDCP / DRM can of worms. As to a PC, you can always use a remote desktop app.
Would you really want to?
Tablets are a compromise between screen real-estate and portability. Their screens are half the size of the smallest desktop monitors you can buy and low-end monitors aren't that expensive.
If you want dual screens on your PC, buying a second monitor is a far superior option than slaving your tablet screen to your desktop PC.
Fair enough.
Just thought it would be useful.
You can!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
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Haha, that's crazy.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
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Running Vegan7 here and iDisplay works, mainly use it for a status monitor as I already have 3 24" widescreens, just seemed like a novel idea.
chad
Wow, that's really cool.
That's actually exactly what I had in mind when I started this thread. Awesome.
Still don't have a tablet yet. Have one on the way though.
How does it work? Software on pc and tablet communicate over wifi?
Thanks
I got my Xoom now and the iDisplay does seem to work.
Here is a review of a friend of mine using it on his.
Yep, this was exactly what I had in mind when I posted this thread. It's slow and buggy, but I'm sure it will improve and it does work for certain functions.
Yes, this idea has been around in different forms for different OSes for quite a while. Sorry, but truly new ideas for apps are really few and far between.
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Sweet!
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In my endlessly circular deliberations between Note 10.1 and Nexus 10 I am now focussing on streaming to TV.
Can anyone answer whether the Allshare adaptor for TV
a Works with the Note 10.1
b Mirrors the screen exactly or only streams selected content (video/music/photos etc)
c Requires a Wifi connection as well as an HDMI and separate power source
Many thanks
a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
chamberc said:
a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
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Excellent, that may have swung it, as rumours seem to indicate that N10 miracast support is not functioning, despite being capable.
I looked at ipad/Airplay but that's over Wifi which means it's largely non-portable.
Thank you
I very much enjoy my allshare. Plus after registering with samsung, they gave me 50% off, so that was nice, getting the adapter for only 50 bucks!
When watching netflix, youtube, or hulu, it will put the video on the tv and you can use the seek function on the note. Also, with the youtube app, you can have the video play in full screen on the tv and do limited browsing on the note, like the related to videos and stuff like that while you are finishing up your current video. I haven't noticed much out of sync with the videos, I think that mostly has to do the my internets at the time because I have had the same kind of issues using hdmi and my laptop. It is soooo much nicer not having any wires to mess with, just connect on demand. It makes this by far the coolest thing, plus the ir transmitter so you can do everything on the note.
One thing I did have to do, after doing a lot of flashing and changing a lot of stuff, not sure if you would be doing the same, but I had to use triangle away to reset my flash count to get it to work, most other people never have to do that, but for whatever resaon that is the only way I got it to work for me
Great. I probably won't root yet anyway. Unless it is required for all share.
I'm going to wait until the official jb update then root after that.
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does the Allshare dongle Support Miracast ? possible to connect via Nexus 7/10 to that dongle? or via Windows WiFi direct+special Tool?
kinda sad that the dongle needa external Power And is huge. But Else cool stuff.
If you are referring to the wireless adapter, it works very well and works with hbo go and YouTube. It works well enough that I just went and bought this tablet due to the fact that I used it with my sgs3.
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I know it doesnt support mhl, i havent been able to find any miracast dongle that works, only hope i think is a samsung smart tv, has anyone got this to work with a specific model, i think some have got it to work with chromecast to some degree but i dont have wifi, thanks.
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I know it doesnt support mhl, i havent been able to find any miracast dongle that works, only hope i think is a samsung smart tv, has anyone got this to work with a specific model, i think some have got it to work with chromecast to some degree but i dont have wifi, thanks.
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Tried it yesterday with my samsung smart tv.... played a video. The video played for about 10 seconds before timing out with a "network error"....
Basically worked about as much as the S5 did.... shoddy. And just to clarify my wifi setup is an N setup and have had no issues whatsoever network-wise.
Thanks twisted, i dont get that, im sure like you said it has nothing to do with your network, i thought the whole point of the quick connect feature was you didnt need to be connected to your home wifi for this to work, or am i mistaken? Ive tried emailing samsung support multiple times to get some kind of clarification, but they are useless.
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Thanks twisted, i dont get that, im sure like you said it has nothing to do with your network, i thought the whole point of the quick connect feature was you didnt need to be connected to your home wifi for this to work, or am i mistaken? Ive tried emailing samsung support multiple times to get some kind of clarification, but they are useless.
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No the idea is your smart tv and phone must be connected to the same wifi network.... regardless i don't expect this mirroring to work... tried just now... all i got was a garbled screen lol.
my screen mirroring works fine on my Samsung UN65F6400AFXZC. on tv click on screen mirroring input , then on phone quick connect and then connect to screen mirroring , watched a few music vids I have on the phone , flipped through pictures from the gallery , home screen and screen rotation all work fine. a slight delay from phone to tv but that's normal.
all working fine here , stock unrooted
Works a treat on my LG smart TV too. It did ask to allow connections from the s6 once but after that it connects without issue.
Thats interesting, ive been to best buy and asked them to give a demonstration and they said it wouldnt work until their tvs firmware was updated, im assuming its just hit or miss then, can i ask what model number LG you have
Haven't tried on the s6 but it would work with no issue on my note 4 and fire tv
Works very smooth with a Chromecast. I was using screen cast and there wasn't any noticeable lag. Was even watching some slow motion video and it looked as if I plugged it in via HDMI. Good enough for me.
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I dont have wifi otherwise id try chromecast, and I thought i read chromecast doesnt support the s6 yet, although theyre maybe a workaround the wifi requirement somehow, i think it has to do with the initial setup has to be done then you can do it
Chromecast works without a hitch
no Miracast
Trying to use miracast with my s6 on both my Microsoft wireless display adapter and my wdtv live, it tries to connect but fails after a few attempts. I can connect with my old s3, my surface pro 3 and some Asus memo pad hd7's. Samsung or lollipop have broken Miracast, does anyone know where to send a complaint?
kyleande said:
Trying to use miracast with my s6 on both my Microsoft wireless display adapter and my wdtv live, it tries to connect but fails after a few attempts. I can connect with my old s3, my surface pro 3 and some Asus memo pad hd7's. Samsung or lollipop have broken Miracast, does anyone know where to send a complaint?
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Did you ever figure out a solution or reason for the issue? Facing similar problems myself trying to connect my s6 to my LG smart TV using miracast.
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Trying to use miracast with my s6 on both my Microsoft wireless display adapter and my wdtv live, it tries to connect but fails after a few attempts. I can connect with my old s3, my surface pro 3 and some Asus memo pad hd7's. Samsung or lollipop have broken Miracast, does anyone know where to send a complaint?
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Did you ever find a solution to this issue? Facing similar problems trying to connect my s6 to my LG smart TV using miracast.
So I've experienced smart view working perfectly for weeks. Have s6 phone and series 6 Samsung smart tv. Then it stopped and I only get an option to deny, no option to allow. To confirm, I have only those two devices-no wifi router or home Internet. Was playing showbox, Spotify, youtube, mobdro...etc. There was about a half second lag, perfectly acceptable.. Samsung told me it may be an update issue, but why remove the feature I bought equipment specifically for that task? Is the connection Bluetooth? Or a direct wifi? This is why phones need to be able to connect to a wifi network they are creating..
Been a long time since I have been here. Trying to figure out what to buy in order to screen mirror my Note 4 to my TV without using WIFI. I want to use my phone date if at all possible. I am going to list everything I have already tried and see if that will help you guys cross things off the list. I currently have an HDMI to mini usb cable that will provide what I need but has a few issues. #1 the charging port in the side of the adapter does not charge faster than the usage so really useless. I also cannot turn off my phone while hooked to the tv or the picture will go away thus draining the battery. The only luck I have ever had with this is to use the cable and turn brightness all the way down by using Screen Filter app after the content starts and it does Ok but not that great. I have tried Screen Standby but never got it to work. Last week I bought a Chromecast thinking that would work but did not realize Google had recently blocked it from working off your cell phone. You must use WIFI and my home internet sticks pretty bad. I also have an Amazon Firestick that has a screen mirring function but was pretty bad as well. Is there some sort of dongle of some sort that will allow me to do what I have described. I would really like to buy something I can plug into TV, cvhange my input and screen mirror my Note 4 without all the headaches. Thanks for any and all help in advance.
I checked the play store and no luck but does anyone happen to know of an app that I can use the S-pen as a mouse so I can point and click/tap from a distance?
Some of the Samsung apps can.
In settings search for "air actions"
Options vary depending on the app.
Universal spen mouse app
I haven't tested it...
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Some of the Samsung apps can.
In settings search for "air actions"
Options vary depending on the app.
Universal spen mouse app
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I found that on a Google search already. It isn't compatible with either the device itself or the version of Android on it. I have seen the air actions, but I'm looking specifically for something that will let me use it while my phone is several feet from my face and I'm basically using the pen as an air touchpad.
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I checked the play store and no luck but does anyone happen to know of an app that I can use the S-pen as a mouse so I can point and click/tap from a distance?
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Unfortunately, the S Pen isn't designed to work as a mouse for than a centimeter from the screen. The proximity sensor on the screen is the limitation.
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I found that on a Google search already. It isn't compatible with either the device itself or the version of Android on it. I have seen the air actions, but I'm looking specifically for something that will let me use it while my phone is several feet from my face and I'm basically using the pen as an air touchpad.
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It's an older app. Saw it first years ago, had forgotten about it.
Yeah I don't think that's happening. Air moves doesn't work that detailed, the gyros sense gross movement not fine.
I find that feature annoying and don't use it on my N10+'s, maybe the newer spens are better at it.
I'm good with the bt remote and other display based tricks though.
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It's an older app. Saw it first years ago, had forgotten about it.
Yeah I don't think that's happening. Air moves doesn't work that detailed, the gyros sense gross movement not fine.
I find that feature annoying and don't use it on my N10+'s, maybe the newer spens are better at it.
I'm good with the bt remote and other display based tricks though.
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So then a change of pace for the question.... Is what I'm describing possible with something BESIDES the S Pen?
I've seen gyro mice before, would they work with the phone as a point and click cursor?
I actually just plugged a mouse into the phone, and the cursor appeared and I was able to move the mouse and click with it. I didn't know that was even possible, but I do have a gyro mouse that I'm going to test out tomorrow. Thanks!
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I actually just plugged a mouse into the phone, and the cursor appeared and I was able to move the mouse and click with it. I didn't know that was even possible, but I do have a gyro mouse that I'm going to test out tomorrow. Thanks!
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Yeap, that works. It's a pretty cool trick.
The only hitch is having something hanging out of the C port. If you could use the phone's built in bt to link up with the mouse that be cool. Sounds like it should be possible but never heard of that being done that I can recall. However I haven't looked into it.
I'm still learning tricks that my N10+/Pie can do
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Yeap, that works. It's a pretty cool trick.
The only hitch is having something hanging out of the C port. If you could use the phone's built in bt to link up with the mouse that be cool. Sounds like it should be possible but never heard of that being done that I can recall. However I haven't looked into it.
I'm still learning tricks that my N10+/Pie can do
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Yeah it's a really nice feature. Honestly, my use case is so niche anyway. I tend to get a lot of massages(better than drinking or gambling, right?) but work from home and do so during work hours. So when I lay on the table, I can now put my phone on the ground and use an air mouse to continue to work
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Yeah it's a really nice feature. Honestly, my use case is so niche anyway. I tend to get a lot of massages(better than drinking or gambling, right?) but work from home and do so during work hours. So when I lay on the table, I can now put my phone on the ground and use an air mouse to continue to work
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You got wireless Dex too.
Cigars beat booze. Trying out some pipe smoking too. Relaxing.
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You got wireless Dex too.
Cigars beat booze. Trying out some pipe smoking too. Relaxing.
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Wireless Dex? I think I have that disabled with the package disabler, but tell me how to utilize that feature?
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Wireless Dex? I think I have that disabled with the package disabler, but tell me how to utilize that feature?
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Just like Dex except it's wireless, uses wifi.
I'm still running on Pie on my N10+ so I don't have it. Lol, I never tried Dex as don't need it, I package disable it too... guess I should test it
If you can use it, you might like it.
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I actually just plugged a mouse into the phone, and the cursor appeared and I was able to move the mouse and click with it. I didn't know that was even possible, but I do have a gyro mouse that I'm going to test out tomorrow. Thanks!
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That is because Android has supported mouse and keyboard (both BT and wired) for several years now. At least since 2017 when the Note 8 was released. Probably longer. I was doing it with a Windows Phone back in 2015 with Microsoft Continuum.
You just can't use the S Pen as a mouse more than a centimeter or so from the screen. It would cool if you could, but the way the current S Pen works is not feasible. That goes for DeX mode too. In DeX mode you can use the phone as a mouse, however, you would need to either touch the screen with the S Pen (or finger) or no more than a centimeter with the S Pen.
Honestly, spend a little more and get a decent BT mouse. That way you won't have to worry about wires. On a side note. The S Pen does work very well as a remote camera trigger. That is purely BT and you can trigger the shutter at 30ft or so.
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That is because Android has supported mouse and keyboard (both BT and wired) for several years now. At least since 2017 when the Note 8 was released. Probably longer. I was doing it with a Windows Phone back in 2015 with Microsoft Continuum.
You just can't use the S Pen as a mouse more than a centimeter or so from the screen. It would cool if you could, but the way the current S Pen works is not feasible. That goes for DeX mode too. In DeX mode you can use the phone as a mouse, however, you would need to either touch the screen with the S Pen (or finger) or no more than a centimeter with the S Pen.
Honestly, spend a little more and get a decent BT mouse. That way you won't have to worry about wires. On a side note. The S Pen does work very well as a remote camera trigger. That is purely BT and you can trigger the shutter at 30ft or so.
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I definitely do use it as a remote camera trigger, and it's quite nice. Can a Bluetooth mouse sync up to the phone directly or will it still need to connect to a dongle first?
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I definitely do use it as a remote camera trigger, and it's quite nice. Can a Bluetooth mouse sync up to the phone directly or will it still need to connect to a dongle first?
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It can connect directly, no wires needed. Some older BT mice may have issues. By older, I mean more than 4 or 5 years old.
Fun fact: If you have a newer Samsung laptop, you can connect your phone to it and control the phone from the laptop. I can do it with my Galaxy Book2 Pro 360. I can also use my Tab S7 as a second screen for my laptop.
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It can connect directly, no wires needed. Some older BT mice may have issues. By older, I mean more than 4 or 5 years old.
Fun fact: If you have a newer Samsung laptop, you can connect your phone to it and control the phone from the laptop. I can do it with my Galaxy Book2 Pro 360. I can also use my Tab S7 as a second screen for my laptop.
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That's nice as well. Thanks!
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That's nice as well. Thanks!
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One final tidbit. The S22 Ultra also supports BT keyboards.