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root lost after 2.3.340 OTA update cannot get it back

Here's a good one for any devs. I have been fussing with this for 3 days and am at my wits end.
I noticed the other day there was a software update from VZW for my droid X. That night I get home launch ADB name all the renamed .apk bloatware back to normal, and DL & install the update.
After doing so I as expected lost root. No biggie I thought as I Had rooted my phone previously with little effort. Long story short after numerous attempts and now several different methods including z4, 1 click root, etc... I still am unable to regain root access, and am stuck with read only access to the file system.
I have posted on a coupe different forums with this query, and it seems to be a mixed problem. some are able to regain root, others are like me and locked out completely.
So.. the question here lies in this??? is there something VZW or Motorola have done with this update to disallow rooting, and if so is it possible to roll back my OS to stock 2.2 Froyo prior to this update? Alternatively does anyone else know of any tricks I may have overlooked in successfully rooting my DX.
Thanks in advance!!!

Same here. Tried z4 and onion root. Tried the terminal emulator method. Nothing works.
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is there something VZW or Motorola have done with this update to disallow rooting,
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No, nothing they did. It happened because you accepted an OTA while rooted. Every root guide on here should tell you never to accept an ota when rooted, or you could permanently lose root.

i'm in the same boat as the poster. i accepted it while rooted, unrooted and then installed it. It appears i am locked out from rooting.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9778968#post9778968
worked for me

[Q] Suggestions for safe 'wiping'?

I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?

triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
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Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back. It should take < 15 minutes to do, most of that spent flashing with RSDLite. It'll actually take longer to download all the ADB drivers, Moto drivers, etc -- if you don't have them already.

triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
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Whats up,
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot. And it does take about 15 minutes if you don't already have drivers and stuff, but I can help you out, by linking you to my utility, which essentially does the heavy lifting of finding all of the programs and stuff, and puts it together into one convenient package.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241788

Cpudan80 said:
Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back.
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Mr.Parkinson said:
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot.
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Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?

triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?
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There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/15208-root-motochopper-yet-another-android-root-exploit/

Cpudan80 said:
There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
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Amazing, thanks! I had seen that exploit at one point when I was considering getting an earlier RAZR version and was looking into how easy it was to root it. I thought that exploit didn't work with the XT925 since there was no link to it in the forum (and searches only revealed many tales of failed root attempts and downgrades). Thanks again!

[Q] Unable to get Saferoot to work with NC1

I was rooted with 4.1.2 and haven't rerooted since taking 4.3 which I had to do for work. I know the bootloader is locked forever. I'm okay with touchwiz. But, after taking NC1, I tried saferoot for the first time on 4.3 and I got hung up at "sending files to device". I looked under the covers a bit and tried to just execute the commands manually. I can shell to the phone and do stuff, but if I try the install, it just hangs. And when I looked in /data (the bat file pushes stuff to /data/local/tmp) I see nothing. I tried simply pushing the files somewhere else and that was fine, but when I tried to change the permissions, I got "Operation not permitted".
Needless to say, I'm not rooted. But it seems others get farther than this before failing, even on NC1. So my big question is whether there is something funky with my setup or with adb which is preventing these commands from working properly. My phone initially connects as an installer but then flips to a media device shortly thereafter, even though I have usb debugging enabled, etc, since I can obviously run adb and all.
Any help/insight would be greatly appreciated.

Well, it looks like, despite my different behavior, saferoot doesn't work on NC1 anyway. From what I've read, some kept root after the update and some didn't. At this point, it appears my path would be to odin back to ML1, root there, and then try the update to see if root is maintained (or ignore it).
I noticed on AT&T someone managed to come up with a modified update that could be applied using safestrap that would maintain root for sure, but I don't think that will work here and haven't seem the same for Verizon yet.

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Well, it looks like, despite my different behavior, saferoot doesn't work on NC1 anyway. From what I've read, some kept root after the update and some didn't. At this point, it appears my path would be to odin back to ML1, root there, and then try the update to see if root is maintained (or ignore it).
I noticed on AT&T someone managed to come up with a modified update that could be applied using safestrap that would maintain root for sure, but I don't think that will work here and haven't seem the same for Verizon yet.
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You should probably just ignore it unless your going to Canada any time soon. Otherwise you will most likely loose root and need to do it all over again.

People have had luck keeping root by checking the survival mode in the paid version of super su. Just thought I would let you know in case you really want to be on the update. I will be making a pre rooted odin file sometime soon. I gave my main pc to my fiance and am currently on her old crappy laptop. It wouldn't be a problem but I need to install linux before I can do it. You probably don't care but ill be buying a Clevo P150SM-A in a few months so that should fix all my computer problems for the next 6+ years (just in time to upgrade to a graphene processor!).

saferoot on NC1
doncaruana said:
Well, it looks like, despite my different behavior, saferoot doesn't work on NC1 anyway. From what I've read, some kept root after the update and some didn't. At this point, it appears my path would be to odin back to ML1, root there, and then try the update to see if root is maintained (or ignore it).
I noticed on AT&T someone managed to come up with a modified update that could be applied using safestrap that would maintain root for sure, but I don't think that will work here and haven't seem the same for Verizon yet.
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Do you think there will ever be an update to Saferoot that will allow it to work on NC1 or is that not really possible? I have used Saferoot on earlier firmware versions and it was great how easy it worked.....??

Just got a new Z3 and want to root

So I just got my new Sony Xperia Z3 but unfortunately it's D6603 model so no 32GB goodness which means I probably need Link2SD as I'll end up with probably about 10GB user available storage after all the updated which means I need to root.
I haven't even turned the phone on yet, it's still sitting there charging, but let's assume for a moment that it's not yet on Lollipop and still running KitKat which should mean I have various easy rooting methods at my disposal, right?
So what I'm asking is what would be the easiest (and most universal/in other words covering the most versions) root I could use.
I don't care about custom this or whatever, I want to keep my phone as stock as possible, I just want to be able to use Link2SD and maybe Titanium Backup, so if possible I'd prefer not to add a custom recovery or mess with anything beyond getting root access for those 2 apps.
I know I will have to check the bootloader first (I assume it's already unlocked though given the phone it's an international version that isn't carrier locked but that's a different problem anyways). But after that is there a recommended one-click root to use that alters as little as possible and covers as many android versions as possible? Or something almost as easy?
I don't want easy because my technical knowledge is lacking by the way, I want easy because the fewer steps there are the less I can screw up and I'm terrified of bricking the phone....so terrified I've resisted rooting my previous two android phones even after getting replacement phones, but I really need Link2SD now.

Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Should I use Kingroot and then replace the king Super User app with normal SuperuserSU?
Can I still keep root by doing a PC update instead of an OTA one?
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Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
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use kingroot with chainfire's supersu

ondrejvaroscak said:
Search forums. You can have Z3 rooted on both locked and unlocked bootloaders or or install custom fw.
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I know there are many options, I was hoping to be pointed to what someone considers the ideal easy way. My very problem was that I was inundated by potential rooting options but many either modified more than I would have liked or some seemed suspect/too good to be true (no way there are 30 accepted one-click root programs for this phone) so I'd been hoping someone would help me find the right tree in the forest of options I was looking at.
Anyways today I finally turned the phone on and to my great dismay found that it was already fully up to date (well our local network OTA updates may be a revision or 2 behind international updates) and running Lollipop 5.02 and I gave up all hope then there but Kingroot looked so easy that I decided to try it anyways and to my great surprise and tremendous delight it worked perfectly. Downloaded rootchecker and I'm fully rooted. Tried Link2SD and I'm extremely pleased to say that I have all of Asphalt 8 - Airborne's massive bulk as well as Spiderman Unlimited taking up space on my SD card and most of my user available internal storage remains unused.
I think I'm going to stay with KingRoot's app though and not switch to SuperSU, I don't want there to be any chance of losing this root access (I know it shouldn't happen but I desperately need Link2SD to stay happy so I don't want to rock the boat in any way).
So I guess this thread can be closed now.

Black Plague said:
use kingroot with chainfire's supersu
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Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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ondrejvaroscak said:
I would be more paranoid about using quite unknown app instead of rock solid and proven SuperSU..
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I don't have anything sensitive on my phone, I'd prefer they didn't spy on me of course but as far as I'm concerned they can have every shred of info they want. All I need is root access for Link2SD, I don't need the rock-solid and proven SuperSU for that and I don't want any more features incase that offers more.
Since KingRoot has given my phone a chance at a decent life I'm willing to trust them until being shown info to the contrary (and I mean more than just them knowing my IMEI number).

SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks. I ended up using Kingroot before this already because when I turned the phone on for the first time I saw that it was already on 5.02 which I thought made it unrootable (without a custom rom, but I may have missread something somewhere) so I decided give it a Hail Mary try and it worked!!
I think I'm going to stick with KingRoot's app though and not replace it with SuperSU, I just don't want to rock the boat and lose that root access (I know it can be done without losing it, but I'm super paranoid).
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Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser

Black Plague said:
Easy bro, relax la, do you want to stick with kingroot super user ? its ok but if u flash chainfire's super su, u can uninstall that kinguser
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Besides having the more trusted app what would I gain from SuperSU? Does it to do more? Besides the engrish the Super User app from Kingroot seems fine.
Can SuperSU also unroot my phone again (should I need to warranty claim) and also try to keep the root permanent even when updates happen (which Kingroot apparently tries to do even if it likely won't work)?
Oh by the way one more question with regards to rooting. Back when I had my Xperia neo apparently OTA updates would make you lose root but doing an update via the Sony PC companion program could maintain the root...is that still the case? Or do I lose root no matter what now?

Pc companion is a worthless pos. Believe me. Look for alts, anything that works with android to your liking. You'll be much happier. Kingroot is not needed AT ALL. Plus I don't like the fact it calls home. Reminds me of the latest lenovo fiasco where programs within the bios are calling home-wtf! Use the tested working giefroot, flashtool, xzdr stuff. My 2cents

Rooting my z3

I have a Z3 which i want to root, not to use custom roms on it. I want the stock rom as i have no issues with that, but i simply want deeper access of the phone.
It is a:
Z3 d6603
on:
6.0.1
firmware:
23.5.A.0.575
I have already tried all the one click root option apps and windows programs without success. Other tutorials on here all seem to be for other firmware versions of the phone.
Also if it is possible to root it, will just rooting it lose my data? i think not, but i just need to make sure.
I have read you must downgrade it to 4.4.4? then root?, is there not a easier method than this? or likely to be a easier method (such as with one click root) in the very near future?. I have so much data that i really dont want to back it all up and remember what apps i had, to go through this processes. All i want to do is root, no roms involved.
Any help for a n00b?

Kingsroot is confirmed to work but it does look very shady. Why is downgrading a problem? The whole process of downgrading, rooting and upgrading back to 6.01 takes less than an hour, depending on your internet speed.

MaliBooCRO said:
Kingsroot is confirmed to work but it does look very shady. Why is downgrading a problem? The whole process of downgrading, rooting and upgrading back to 6.01 takes less than an hour, depending on your internet speed.
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Kingroot didnt work. I am on 6.0.1 so i think it only works for previous android versions.
The hassle of downgrading then upgrading will delete everything from my phone i think. There is only so much you can backup, you cannot (that i know of) backup your apps or layout of the phone. Would take well over 1 hour just to do that when all i want is root access.