Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
XxLordxX said:
Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
icekube187 said:
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
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You can not root anymore with ping pong root. That only works on early firmware. Only disadvantages of tripping knox is that you won't be able to use Samsung pay if that matters, and it voids your Samsung warranty, meaning if something goes wrong Samsung won't touch it; however, your carrier will.
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
icekube187 said:
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
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You must first root before you can install TWRP. There is a rooted kernel that you can use through Odin. Here is my thread with TWRP and the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3102034
Here is Odin:
https://mega.nz/#!SkoGRSjR!JYA62GV9w0rSvsqAYsl_mXZRU6BgnMdkM3Xuc9E7YuM
Thanks for info and the links
icekube187 said:
Thanks for info and the links
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No problem
Hi ,
I'm Italian and I recently bought this phone with G920FXXU2COH2 firmware.
I would like to root this phone, so I ask you if with this firmware I could have root without tripping Knox counter and if I decide to upgrade the device to G920FXXU3COI9 firmware could I have root whithout tripping Knox counter?
Thank you and I'm sorry for my english and I apologize if I made mistakes.
gnogno1985 said:
Hi ,
I'm Italian and I recently bought this phone with G920FXXU2COH2 firmware.
I would like to root this phone, so I ask you if with this firmware I could have root without tripping Knox counter and if I decide to upgrade the device to G920FXXU3COI9 firmware could I have root whithout tripping Knox counter?
Thank you and I'm sorry for my english and I apologize if I made mistakes.
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no one can halp me?
gnogno1985 said:
no one can halp me?
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To receive ota updates, you'll have to unroot it though unless u flash via odin! For rooting methods, search the forum.
From a personal experience I don't find the need to root. Package Disabler Pro is here to disable any app, themes customize almost everything in the phone, TW is fast enough.
Why would you like to root?
There are tons of guides and tutorials here in the s6 section. It should help you in your way. Your free to root as you wish haha.
As for the knox, Engineered bootloader is okay but with no fingerprint scanner. Its the only way to root without tripping Knox. Any root method aside frm this will trip knox
I want to root my S6 but I know nothing about rooting and such. I've tried towelroot, kingroot and pingpong but none of them seem to support my device.
It's model nr SM-G920F and the build number is MMB29K.G20FXXS3DPD3. I'd like to root it without triggering knox if possible, if it's not tell me what not to do as to avoid bricking it.
It's 6.0.1 Marshmallow
Sorry if this noobish of me to ask but I can't find any tuts with which I feel secure rooting, thanks!
eye_lf said:
I want to root my S6 but I know nothing about rooting and such. I've tried towelroot, kingroot and pingpong but none of them seem to support my device.
It's model nr SM-G920F and the build number is MMB29K.G20FXXS3DPD3. I'd like to root it without triggering knox if possible, if it's not tell me what not to do as to avoid bricking it.
It's 6.0.1 Marshmallow
Sorry if this noobish of me to ask but I can't find any tuts with which I feel secure rooting, thanks!
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You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
xstokerx said:
You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
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This will still trip knox right? At least that what their website says.
Jhayzt said:
This will still trip knox right? At least that what their website says.
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Yep
xstokerx said:
You cant root without tripping knox cf auto root is your only choice i believe
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I think CF auto root also doesn't support my device
eye_lf said:
I think CF auto root also doesn't support my device
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Yes it does. I rooted it yesterday. But be careful with TWRP,
"recovery is not seandroid enforcing" may appear on boot, and u may experience a bootloop.
Keep a stock official rom in your pc, in case u want to recover. Use Odin
bigkusi said:
Yes it does. I rooted it yesterday. But be careful with TWRP,
"recovery is not seandroid enforcing" may appear on boot, and u may experience a bootloop.
Keep a stock official rom in your pc, in case u want to recover. Use Odin
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Would you mind adding me on skype, I'm still having trouble understanding this
I've never rooted or flashed my phone before, and I've been wanting to do it for a while but a bit scared to. Don't want to brick my phone.
So to begin with, I wanted to root my Samsung Galaxy S4. I believe the model is sgh m919n. So if you guys could direct me to the correct software to use to root my phone, that would be great! Also I'm on version 4.4.4 just in case that's needed.
Thank you so much.
FundamentalStructure said:
I've never rooted or flashed my phone before, and I've been wanting to do it for a while but a bit scared to. Don't want to brick my phone.
So to begin with, I wanted to root my Samsung Galaxy S4. I believe the model is sgh m919n. So if you guys could direct me to the correct software to use to root my phone, that would be great! Also I'm on version 4.4.4 just in case that's needed.
Thank you so much.
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you need odin and files for cf autoroot from here https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
search cf auto root for more instructions, also you will need twrp recovery for your device before proceding
I guess s4 has a forum in xda.
U can find everything there.
And yeah.
Rooting won't kill ur phone.
For the twrp, do I have to root my phone first or can I do it before I root it?