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I Think I *May* Have Discovered Something

I was poking around the phone today and I think I found an app' that really doesn't need to run at all times and probably doesn't need to be installed on the phone.
I noticed Adobe,which in the PC world has it's own "auto updater" ["AIR", IIRC] and I noticed HTC has their own little "widget" installed - Tell HTC.
Has anyone else notice this before?
For the guys who haven't seen it,it's in Settings/About Phone/Tell HTC.
Try turning that widget off and let me know if you see a difference.
I sure did.
My apologies if this was covered before....I'm new here and it's late.

what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".

The Radius Kid said:
I was poking around the phone today and I think I found an app' that really doesn't need to run at all times and probably doesn't need to be installed on the phone.
I noticed Adobe,which in the PC world has it's own "auto updater" ["AIR", IIRC] and I noticed HTC has their own little "widget" installed - Tell HTC.
Has anyone else notice this before?
For the guys who haven't seen it,it's in Settings/About Phone/Tell HTC.
Try turning that widget off and let me know if you see a difference.
I sure did.
My apologies if this was covered before....I'm new here and it's late.
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The Adobe reader app updates through the market so it is the market that checks every so often or when you go to it not like on a pc where it is the program that checks.
The Tell Htc widget/app is to report system errors to Htc, so it wont really make any difference. The only difference you will see if it is turned off is that when you have a system crash the pop-up asking if can send the crash info to Htc wont happen any more and no info will be sent.

steve austin said:
what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".
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I noticed the screen was much more responsive to touch gestures.
I didn't take notice of any change in memory usage.
I guess I'll have to look at a few more things.

steve austin said:
what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".
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It may not be in the USA T-Mobile version

nccu_eagles said:
It may not be in the USA T-Mobile version
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its in settings > about phone...turn off both report usage and problem...it does hv sm impact on speed...tried it myself

lalitsehgal21 said:
its in settings > about phone...turn off both report usage and problem...it does hv sm impact on speed...tried it myself
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Thanks for clarifying that so I don't need to hunt through menus and menus looking for it.
Probably a total placebo effect, but I feel like things are a little snappier? I'll keep an eye on the screen responsiveness as I go through this power cycle and will report back with some thoroughly unscientific results.

that is good trick. I also don't like the "show me" which is part of sync.
Don't know how to uncheck it.

this makes my phone no faster or snapier than what it is

henrik.dk said:
that is good trick. I also don't like the "show me" which is part of sync.
Don't know how to uncheck it.
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I just looked at that one.
Settings/Accounts and Sync - uncheck Background data.

The Radius Kid said:
I just looked at that one.
Settings/Accounts and Sync - uncheck Background data.
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You need to keep that enabled to use the Market, unless you want to enable it every time you do.

aNYthing24 said:
You need to keep that enabled to use the Market, unless you want to enable it every time you do.
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Good to know,but I put that one up there with spyware.
I'll turn it on if I ever need it.

Yup, this definitely speeds your phone up. It worked for me by making everything more responsive. I thought everyone already knew about this. Its not placebo. Its legit.
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Thanks my screen is wicked fast.

Just to follow up from my post earlier today with a quick, anecdotal report:
I disabled the HTC reporting as suggested by the OP around noon today, while I was at ~80% charge. It's about 9 hours later after moderate to heavy use today, and at ~15% charge my screen still has yet to lag out on me during unlocking or swiping between screens.
For reference, I would usually notice little stutters throughout the day, and especially more so once my battery dropped below the 25% threshold.
No idea why something as seemingly innocuous as error reporting would have such a marked effect, but that is honestly the only variable that I can recall changing all day today.
The responses in this thread seem like a mixed bag of results, but hopefully these good results continue for me and some lucky others!

just disable "show me" with fre3vo way better than to turn off background data..

Glad it helped some people.

[Q] App: "Update device" ?

Hi there,
Under Settings -> Apps -> All apps is an app called "Update device", which has a huge number of permissions. Can somene please tell me what it is and if it's "normal" for Nexus 5? Has someone this app, too?
The thing is, that it hasn't the original android app logo (the green robot in 3D-style). it looks like spyware or so....
Thanks alot!
see appendix:

I think it's normal. I have the same.

The battery monitor app "Carat" recommends that I kill this "Update Device" service and calls it a "hog". I'm unlocked and rooted so can't get OTAs as it is, so if that's what this app/service does, I'd gladly disable it forever. Not sure how to do that though as it doesn't show up in Greenify and Titanium Backup won't work with ART so I can't "freeze" it.
Thoughts?

Yes, bump is lame but this has gone dead for weeks...
So....
BUMP.

rabaker07 said:
Yes, bump is lame but this has gone dead for weeks...
So....
BUMP.
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There is nothing to discuss. It's part of Android. It runs all the time but doesn't do much of anything.

Aerowinder said:
There is nothing to discuss. It's part of Android. It runs all the time but doesn't do much of anything.
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Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?

rabaker07 said:
Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?
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It doesn't consume vast amounts of battery. Every phone has it.

rabaker07 said:
Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?
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Where are the BBS logs that show that app keeping the device awake for absurd amounts of time?
Only then, would it be considered a problem worth investigating. If you have battery problems, post your BBS log and I will personally take a look.

Strange overheating problem

Hey guys. A couple of minutes ago something strange happened to my phone. I just don't understand what's going on with it. I'm so disappointed. I mean... this phone costed me some money and experiencing such a thing makes me regret so much I bought my Nexus 5. It is indeed the best phone I've ever had but if this is what it takes to have a phone for such a small period of time and already have so many problems with it then... I think it's just a waste of money.
I don't know what's going on with it - It just overheated horribly while scrolling down on Facebook. Never happened this before. I was just scrolling like normal and using FB like normal and all of a sudden my phone becomes so hot - quickly I opened System Monitor and CPU temp was at 60-67ºC.
Also if I go to the Battery Tab in System Monitor the graph is pretty strange in my opinion, I mean the battery´s temperature is going up and down all over again it's like the graph of a heartbeat record or something.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 5 is the best phone but if this is really what it takes to own a phone for straight two months.... I mean, really?

Uninstall Facebook

dicecuber said:
Uninstall Facebook
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I don't think that's the problem... as I said I never had this issue using Facebook and any other app (except Autorun Manager)

What ROM? are you using stock kernel?

a g bell said:
What ROM? are you using stock kernel?
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Stock ROM and Kernel. Only rooted.

KodRoute said:
Stock ROM and Kernel. Only rooted.
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Though it sounds like a app causing you problems there l would recommend trying a custom rom and kernel l have always found the stock ROM to run a little warm. But maybe before doing that have a look at trickster in the play store you change many more things to help keep things cooler.

The stock kernels the culprit I'd say. It's set in a narrow freq towards the top end causing it to run hot. Use Elemental X.

KodRoute said:
I don't know what's going on with it - It just overheated horribly while scrolling down on Facebook. Never happened this before. I was just scrolling like normal and using FB like normal and all of a sudden my phone becomes so hot - quickly I opened System Monitor and CPU temp was at 60-67ºC.
Also if I go to the Battery Tab in System Monitor the graph is pretty strange in my opinion, I mean the battery´s temperature is going up and down all over again it's like the graph of a heartbeat record or something.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 5 is the best phone but if this is really what it takes to own a phone for straight two months.... I mean, really?
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Perhaps it's those monitoring apps that you have installed. Just reboot the phone, should be fine.

beekay201 said:
Perhaps it's those monitoring apps that you have installed. Just reboot the phone, should be fine.
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It was indeed because of these apps. Uninstalling them seems to have solved the issue. Thank you for pointing it out! I guess I was a lil bit scared at first.
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Sleeping Apps

Do you guys sleep apps in the device optimizer? I just found it the other day, seems like a good thing, probably the best we can get till we can get root

I have all of my apps that I don't need notifications from set to Always Sleep. Seems to help the battery some.
If you are looking to disable apps or block them I recommend BK Disabler. No root needed.
Also root is available, just be careful because it has ALOT of set backs. In my opinion not worth it right now.

ShrekOpher said:
I have all of my apps that I don't need notifications from set to Always Sleep. Seems to help the battery some.
If you are looking to disable apps or block them I recommend BK Disabler. No root needed.
Also root is available, just be careful because it has ALOT of set backs. In my opinion not worth it right now.
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That app is awesome! Pretty much the only thing I wanted root for! Or at least the main thing! Thanks! I froze/disabled a few main ones that keep waking up in the background....

808phoneaddict said:
That app is awesome! Pretty much the only thing I wanted root for! Or at least the main thing! Thanks! I froze/disabled a few main ones that keep waking up in the background....
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Also just as an FYI AT&T hid the carrier IQ software in a new shady spot. Screen shots below to show where to turn it off.

ShrekOpher said:
Also just as an FYI AT&T hid the carrier IQ software in a new shady spot. Screen shots below to show where to turn it off.
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Mine doesn't have that...

808phoneaddict said:
Mine doesn't have that...
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You're looking at the wrong application. Use the search to find "Carrier IQ" and you'll find the right application and then the right service to turn off.

808phoneaddict said:
Mine doesn't have that...
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It's inside device HEALTH not device HELP?
Take another look is there.

ShrekOpher said:
It's inside device HEALTH not device HELP?
Take another look is there.
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Hahaha I was wondering why mine was so different! I have it too... Did you disable it?

808phoneaddict said:
Hahaha I was wondering why mine was so different! I have it too... Did you disable it?
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Yep been disabled since day 1.

With all the aggregated data collected from pretty much every app within android and google really, what does disabling Carrier IQ do?

timmy10shoes said:
With all the aggregated data collected from pretty much every app within android and google really, what does disabling Carrier IQ do?
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It aggregates all of you data, ties it to you phone number and your AT&T account. It's quite a bit more invasive than Google's anonymously collected data.
Also it crush battery and uses about 20 - 200 MB of data a month.
Super shady.

ShrekOpher said:
Also just as an FYI AT&T hid the carrier IQ software in a new shady spot. Screen shots below to show where to turn it off.
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Holy Crap! So glad you pointed this out. Thanks!!!
Composed on Galaxy Note8

Doesn't disabling the package disable the service...? Package disabler pro doesn't have the option to disable the service.

Bk disabler seems pretty awesome... Not sure how good package disabler is...?

natethegreat86 said:
Doesn't disabling the package disable the service...? Package disabler pro doesn't have the option to disable the service.
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Yeah I switch to BK because sometimes u you only want to disable specific services not the entire package.
On the S8 the Carrier IQ was hidden in the system package.

I dont appear to have "Device Health" anywhere.

Pre-Purchase question on display - Huawei Watch 2 Sport

Hi guys, i'm coming from the Moto 360 Sport, and interested in getting the Huawei Watch 2 Sport, simple because Moto crippled it after the AW 2.0 upgrade, ridiculously slow to use now.
With the Moto 360 Sport, it did have a display feature called "AnyLight ", that displays in 'any light' and i loved that.
Motorola accomplishes it by combining a traditional backlit LCD in "transmissive" display with reflective backing. Or something like that.
Anyway, I really like this feature, see screens attached.
I was wondering what the Huawei Watch 2 Sport/Classic screens look like in dim/ambient mode. Does it have this idea?
Anyone care to share some photo of this, as I've read/watched so many reviews, but cannot see what this looks like.
Thanks a lot.
Darren.

Hw2 is amoled so in ambient modes is uses much much less battery because of the black pixels being off, but this feature that you're talking about is not available in hw2, however the watch display is very sharp and shiny even in direct sun light.
also be aware that amoled screens get damaged (burn-in issue) if a pixel is on a particular color for a long time, meaning that for example on ambient mode there are numbers around the screen that are always on, this may cause those numbers to burn in the screen so even when you are in a completely different screen, you will still see those numbers! (for more info google Burn-in)

Just adding to what was already said regarding burn in. Most watch face makers that support ambient move include a feature which shifts the pixels around ever so slightly to prevent burn in. A very simple yet elegant solution to the problem.

cornelha said:
Just adding to what was already said regarding burn in. Most watch face makers that support ambient move include a feature which shifts the pixels around ever so slightly to prevent burn in. A very simple yet elegant solution to the problem.
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yeah if that's as you said it would be great, I havent noticed it yet

So I just found something interesting. Under developer options > Wear Developer options there is a "force anti burn" setting. Set this up now to give it a try.

cornelha said:
So I just found something interesting. Under developer options > Wear Developer options there is a "force anti burn" setting. Set this up now to give it a try.
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I acually did and it says it needs reboot n after rebooting it goes back to OFF!

Kianush said:
I acually did and it says it needs reboot n after rebooting it goes back to OFF!
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I actually forgot to check this and you are right. So stupid.

hi seems like relevant topic for my question.
are there many disadvantages to get the wifi only (non 4G) of this huawei watch 2? (i get the obvious i cant put sim card and get direct internet connection of course). for example:
will the NFC still works on the non 4G model?
how about the xda community ie root twrp and custom rom? less or more than global version?
any other important things i need to know when deciding to get wifi only or 4G?
thank you.

erwinsie said:
hi seems like relevant topic for my question.
are there many disadvantages to get the wifi only (non 4G) of this huawei watch 2? (i get the obvious i cant put sim card and get direct internet connection of course). for example:
will the NFC still works on the non 4G model?
how about the xda community ie root twrp and custom rom? less or more than global version?
any other important things i need to know when deciding to get wifi only or 4G?
thank you.
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Live tracking during runs is the sole reason I got the 4G version. Have to say love the watch.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

dmaco said:
Live tracking during runs is the sole reason I got the 4G version.
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ah, so GPS is independent on the 4G versus assisted ie need to be connected to phone for the wifi only.
i can live with that. i dont run alot yeah lazy me.
anything else? NFC and the custom roms are interchangeable?

erwinsie said:
ah, so GPS is independent on the 4G versus assisted ie need to be connected to phone for the wifi only.
i can live with that. i dont run alot yeah lazy me.
anything else? NFC and the custom roms are interchangeable?
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No, GPS independent.
Live tracking = data connection for mapping run location remotely.
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dmaco said:
No, GPS independent.
Live tracking = data connection for mapping run location remotely.
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sorry got it mixed up. before, i thought GPS live tracking need constant internet connection and you dont want to carry your phone while jogging.
ok got it now.
also by googling i think NFC works on both model but ofcourse the wifi model will need to be connected to phone to be able to use NFC android pay for example, i assumed