Hi there,
Under Settings -> Apps -> All apps is an app called "Update device", which has a huge number of permissions. Can somene please tell me what it is and if it's "normal" for Nexus 5? Has someone this app, too?
The thing is, that it hasn't the original android app logo (the green robot in 3D-style). it looks like spyware or so....
Thanks alot!
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I think it's normal. I have the same.
The battery monitor app "Carat" recommends that I kill this "Update Device" service and calls it a "hog". I'm unlocked and rooted so can't get OTAs as it is, so if that's what this app/service does, I'd gladly disable it forever. Not sure how to do that though as it doesn't show up in Greenify and Titanium Backup won't work with ART so I can't "freeze" it.
Thoughts?
Yes, bump is lame but this has gone dead for weeks...
So....
BUMP.
rabaker07 said:
Yes, bump is lame but this has gone dead for weeks...
So....
BUMP.
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There is nothing to discuss. It's part of Android. It runs all the time but doesn't do much of anything.
Aerowinder said:
There is nothing to discuss. It's part of Android. It runs all the time but doesn't do much of anything.
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Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?
rabaker07 said:
Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?
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It doesn't consume vast amounts of battery. Every phone has it.
rabaker07 said:
Besides consuming vast amounts of battery? And I can't get OTAs anyway?
What are you talking about?
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Where are the BBS logs that show that app keeping the device awake for absurd amounts of time?
Only then, would it be considered a problem worth investigating. If you have battery problems, post your BBS log and I will personally take a look.
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I was poking around the phone today and I think I found an app' that really doesn't need to run at all times and probably doesn't need to be installed on the phone.
I noticed Adobe,which in the PC world has it's own "auto updater" ["AIR", IIRC] and I noticed HTC has their own little "widget" installed - Tell HTC.
Has anyone else notice this before?
For the guys who haven't seen it,it's in Settings/About Phone/Tell HTC.
Try turning that widget off and let me know if you see a difference.
I sure did.
My apologies if this was covered before....I'm new here and it's late.
what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".
The Radius Kid said:
I was poking around the phone today and I think I found an app' that really doesn't need to run at all times and probably doesn't need to be installed on the phone.
I noticed Adobe,which in the PC world has it's own "auto updater" ["AIR", IIRC] and I noticed HTC has their own little "widget" installed - Tell HTC.
Has anyone else notice this before?
For the guys who haven't seen it,it's in Settings/About Phone/Tell HTC.
Try turning that widget off and let me know if you see a difference.
I sure did.
My apologies if this was covered before....I'm new here and it's late.
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The Adobe reader app updates through the market so it is the market that checks every so often or when you go to it not like on a pc where it is the program that checks.
The Tell Htc widget/app is to report system errors to Htc, so it wont really make any difference. The only difference you will see if it is turned off is that when you have a system crash the pop-up asking if can send the crash info to Htc wont happen any more and no info will be sent.
steve austin said:
what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".
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I noticed the screen was much more responsive to touch gestures.
I didn't take notice of any change in memory usage.
I guess I'll have to look at a few more things.
steve austin said:
what type of difference? i don't see this app/program running in my task manager. the only time i have seen it come up was when the phone crashed and i got a screen prompt that said "notify htc about unexpected shutdown with Tell HTC".
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It may not be in the USA T-Mobile version
nccu_eagles said:
It may not be in the USA T-Mobile version
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its in settings > about phone...turn off both report usage and problem...it does hv sm impact on speed...tried it myself
lalitsehgal21 said:
its in settings > about phone...turn off both report usage and problem...it does hv sm impact on speed...tried it myself
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Thanks for clarifying that so I don't need to hunt through menus and menus looking for it.
Probably a total placebo effect, but I feel like things are a little snappier? I'll keep an eye on the screen responsiveness as I go through this power cycle and will report back with some thoroughly unscientific results.
that is good trick. I also don't like the "show me" which is part of sync.
Don't know how to uncheck it.
this makes my phone no faster or snapier than what it is
henrik.dk said:
that is good trick. I also don't like the "show me" which is part of sync.
Don't know how to uncheck it.
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I just looked at that one.
Settings/Accounts and Sync - uncheck Background data.
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I just looked at that one.
Settings/Accounts and Sync - uncheck Background data.
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You need to keep that enabled to use the Market, unless you want to enable it every time you do.
aNYthing24 said:
You need to keep that enabled to use the Market, unless you want to enable it every time you do.
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Good to know,but I put that one up there with spyware.
I'll turn it on if I ever need it.
Yup, this definitely speeds your phone up. It worked for me by making everything more responsive. I thought everyone already knew about this. Its not placebo. Its legit.
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Thanks my screen is wicked fast.
Just to follow up from my post earlier today with a quick, anecdotal report:
I disabled the HTC reporting as suggested by the OP around noon today, while I was at ~80% charge. It's about 9 hours later after moderate to heavy use today, and at ~15% charge my screen still has yet to lag out on me during unlocking or swiping between screens.
For reference, I would usually notice little stutters throughout the day, and especially more so once my battery dropped below the 25% threshold.
No idea why something as seemingly innocuous as error reporting would have such a marked effect, but that is honestly the only variable that I can recall changing all day today.
The responses in this thread seem like a mixed bag of results, but hopefully these good results continue for me and some lucky others!
just disable "show me" with fre3vo way better than to turn off background data..
Glad it helped some people.
Does anyone else have this. What is the fix
Left unplugged for night. Here is morning results.
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Does anyone else have this. What is the fix
Left unplugged for night. Here is morning results.
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Perhaps you should go into your accounts and stop many of the the Google services from syncing. I only have Calendar, Contacts and Gmail on. That might help with battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-x-att/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2822726
Make sure you read the last post, it streamlines the process, I just haven't had time to update the OP.
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Did you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53739230&postcount=5031
vanessaem said:
Perhaps you should go into your accounts and stop many of the the Google services from syncing. I only have Calendar, Contacts and Gmail on. That might help with battery life.
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Why would they do that? The whole point of having a smartphone is having instantaneous access to your info and using these features. This is a known bug affecting many. Supposedly oneplus one will fix this with the next ota update.
yankees45us said:
Why would they do that? The whole point of having a smartphone is having instantaneous access to your info and using these features. This is a known bug affecting many. Supposedly oneplus one will fix this with the next ota update.
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Things running constantly so that you can have instantaneous and continuous access will drain battery-operated electronics. That's nothing unique with OPO, other smartphones, or any other electronic device which runs on a battery.
vanessaem said:
Things running constantly so that you can have instantaneous and continuous access will drain battery-operated electronics. That's nothing unique with OPO, other smartphones, or any other electronic device which runs on a battery.
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Yes it will drain your battery, but not excessively like the google services bug present in cm11s. Most people don't buy a smartphone to have everything turned off on it. My g3 has all the same things constantly active and battery is a beast on it.
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Yes it will drain your battery, but not excessively like the google services bug present in cm11s. Most people don't buy a smartphone to have everything turned off on it. My g3 has all the same things constantly active and battery is a beast on it.
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Well, I posted my suggestion. If you have a better one, feel free to let the OP know.
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Well, I posted my suggestion. If you have a better one, feel free to let the OP know.
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That is a great suggestion for a temporary battery life improvement but hopefully the update coming from oneplus will resolve it permanently. I hope it does, I really like this phone but will switch over to the g3 permanently if it doesn't get fixed.
this did the trick on mine. I made this video for couple friends
just stop all the services and do immediate reboot
should be fine after
Paulisan said:
Did you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53739230&postcount=5031
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Works for me.
rikardo1979 said:
this did the trick on mine. I made this video for couple friends
just stop all the services and do immediate reboot
should be fine after
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Once you reboot, the process starts again, so they are running again. Por thats TVE way it should be?.
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Does anyone else have this. What is the fix
Left unplugged for night. Here is morning results.
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I have exact same issue !! check my posts in Franco kernel thread in original development !! Initially i thought it was due to CM11S battery drain. But then franco has already fixed it in latest kernel and i have this google search performing atleat 250 wakelocks overnight and draining the battery !!!!
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Once you reboot, the process starts again, so they are running again. Por thats TVE way it should be?.
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Yes,it have to start again but it should be fixed
put location on 'battery saving' instead of 'high accuracy'.
difference was night and day for google services wakelocks for me
timothydonohue said:
put location on 'battery saving' instead of 'high accuracy'.
difference was night and day for google services wakelocks for me
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I dont use location almost always is off. I am trying a xposed combo of greenify & wakelock terminator.
Hey guys, I get this in my greenify app. Is this normal and should be keeping my device awake for so long? Is it the phone just staying on alert for incoming calls or what?
Safe to greenify, or leave as is?
Leave it alone.
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Leave it alone.
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^ This.
In general greenifying system apps isn't a good idea unless you are 100% sure it won't cause trouble.
You should really only greenify installed apps that you personally see behaving badly and causing wakelocks.
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Leave it alone.
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akselic said:
^ This.
In general greenifying system apps isn't a good idea unless you are 100% sure it won't cause trouble.
You should really only greenify installed apps that you personally see behaving badly and causing wakelocks.
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Alright awesome, thanks guys.
I tried to search for it, but not much came up. Ill just leave it alone then until it causes issues.
Hey guys. A couple of minutes ago something strange happened to my phone. I just don't understand what's going on with it. I'm so disappointed. I mean... this phone costed me some money and experiencing such a thing makes me regret so much I bought my Nexus 5. It is indeed the best phone I've ever had but if this is what it takes to have a phone for such a small period of time and already have so many problems with it then... I think it's just a waste of money.
I don't know what's going on with it - It just overheated horribly while scrolling down on Facebook. Never happened this before. I was just scrolling like normal and using FB like normal and all of a sudden my phone becomes so hot - quickly I opened System Monitor and CPU temp was at 60-67ºC.
Also if I go to the Battery Tab in System Monitor the graph is pretty strange in my opinion, I mean the battery´s temperature is going up and down all over again it's like the graph of a heartbeat record or something.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 5 is the best phone but if this is really what it takes to own a phone for straight two months.... I mean, really?
Uninstall Facebook
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Uninstall Facebook
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I don't think that's the problem... as I said I never had this issue using Facebook and any other app (except Autorun Manager)
What ROM? are you using stock kernel?
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What ROM? are you using stock kernel?
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Stock ROM and Kernel. Only rooted.
KodRoute said:
Stock ROM and Kernel. Only rooted.
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Though it sounds like a app causing you problems there l would recommend trying a custom rom and kernel l have always found the stock ROM to run a little warm. But maybe before doing that have a look at trickster in the play store you change many more things to help keep things cooler.
The stock kernels the culprit I'd say. It's set in a narrow freq towards the top end causing it to run hot. Use Elemental X.
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I don't know what's going on with it - It just overheated horribly while scrolling down on Facebook. Never happened this before. I was just scrolling like normal and using FB like normal and all of a sudden my phone becomes so hot - quickly I opened System Monitor and CPU temp was at 60-67ºC.
Also if I go to the Battery Tab in System Monitor the graph is pretty strange in my opinion, I mean the battery´s temperature is going up and down all over again it's like the graph of a heartbeat record or something.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 5 is the best phone but if this is really what it takes to own a phone for straight two months.... I mean, really?
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Perhaps it's those monitoring apps that you have installed. Just reboot the phone, should be fine.
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Perhaps it's those monitoring apps that you have installed. Just reboot the phone, should be fine.
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It was indeed because of these apps. Uninstalling them seems to have solved the issue. Thank you for pointing it out! I guess I was a lil bit scared at first.
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I'm beyond confused on what to do right now. The tablet is having problems left and right and Im just so confused, and no answers from Google are helping me.
Basically, I have three problems. First, the tablet cannot boot past the Nvidia logo. Second, the battery charges EXTREMELY SLOWLY. It took ten hours to get to 35%, and I fell asleep waiting for it to get one percent. And third, it discharges rapidly while on with the charger.
To note what I did, I installed TWRP, did numerous factory resets, and installed LineageOS. However, it just won't boot. Sp I am now here. Please help, I have no more options.
Why didn't you leave it on stock?
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Why didn't you leave it on stock?
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I can revert it to stock. Will that work?
It's best to not update the OS ever. As long as it works. Also, Google auto update should be deactivated. In general, updates are bad. They take storage and eat performance in 80% of the case.
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Why didn't you leave it on stock?
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Niii4 said:
It's best to not update the OS ever. As long as it works. Also, Google auto update should be deactivated. In general, updates are bad. They take storage and eat performance in 80% of the case.
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Regardless, this means nothig for the battery. I've also never seen updates ruin a device. For example, updates actually saved my phone out of brick.If not for Cyanogen, this phone would've stayed bricked.
OEM updates usual ruin the performance. That's my experience.
I've tried numerous 7.1.2 custom Nougat roms and have recently gone back to stock 5.2 and have to say that the device works a lot better.
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In general, updates are bad. They take storage and eat performance in 80% of the case.
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70% of statistics are made up.
After the 5.2 update, my K1 is running a bit smoother/faster than before. Particularly screen rotation, opening keyboard, opening apps & going back to home screen.
Battery life is as it was before the update.
One of the previous updates (5.1?) similarly improved performance a bit.
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OEM updates usual ruin the performance. That's my experience.
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Experiences will vary. But that goes with just about any software change, be it an OEM update, custom ROM, kernel, etc. For every person that says the performance, battery, etc. is better; there will be another that says it's worse.
There are lots of variables in how you use the device, what apps, etc.
For every person that says the performance, battery, etc. is better; there will be another that says it's worse.
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That is the placebo effect.
I can only speak for my own experience. Why fix something that isn't broken?
Oh yeah! Newer version number. And there must be something better about it then. Maybe more ads, or more data tracking.. who knows? Well, the devs know.^^
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I can only speak for my own experience. Why fix something that isn't broken?
Oh yeah! Newer version number. And there must be something better about it then. Maybe more ads, or more data tracking.. who knows? Well, the devs know.^^
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Security updates, for one thing.
As for ads and data tracking, you're making up problems that don't even exist.
Security updates,
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So the device wasn't secure to begin with?
In essence, I could blame the OEM when I got hacked? Really?
Quite frankly, that's yet another excuse to make people more gullible. 1984 all the way..
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Security updates, for one thing.
As for ads and data tracking, you're making up problems that don't even exist.
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He posted the same kind of comments in one of my posts where i was asking for help...
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He posted the same kind of comments in one of my posts where i was asking for help...
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Yes, the comments by this user are over-generalized, hyperbolic, and nonsensical. They add little value to this forum. Just sounds like a guy that had a bad experience once or twice, and now has an axe to grind with every update on every device. Ever.
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Yes, the comments by this user are over-generalized, hyperbolic, and nonsensical. They add little value to this forum. Just sounds like a guy that had a bad experience once or twice, and now has an axe to grind with every update on every device. Ever.
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Generic tinfoil hat... telling me apps like evernote and facebook spy on you...
What if you're using an Android tablet, nah... google doesn't track anything, does it?