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Hi everyone, because HTC is turning into one big liar, promising updates and canceling them in the last weeks i started wondering if the devs of this community could port sense roms to other devices like galaxy nexus or samsung galaxy s2-3. That would be a big blow for htc because a lot of sense loving people would switch to other devices. i am not dev, i wish i was but if this sense porting is possible please please do it.
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Won't do a thing to HTC, we "power-users" as called by outsiders are only a very small group of android users. Most people don't even know what root-access means so yea, this won't do a lot with these normal users.
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we're a big part belive me only in dhd section IceColdSandwich rom has 25000 distinct downloads and that's one phone one rom, take it like this in every country almost 10% of users use custom roms i'd say it's a loss if the sales drop by 40000-70000 pcs in a few months. that's how i think
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we're a big part belive me only in dhd section IceColdSandwich rom has 25000 distinct downloads and that's one phone one rom, take it like this in every country almost 10% of users use custom roms i'd say it's a loss if the sales drop by 40000-70000 pcs in a few months. that's how i think
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These companies go in millions and like 70000 don't really matter and most HTC users do not only use a HTC phone for the ui or official updates.
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What wrong with default system UI ????
HTC SENSE consumes more RAM and makes the phone slow.
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Hi everyone, because HTC is turning into one big liar, promising updates and canceling them in the last weeks i started wondering if the devs of this community could port sense roms to other devices like galaxy nexus or samsung galaxy s2-3. That would be a big blow for htc because a lot of sense loving people would switch to other devices. i am not dev, i wish i was but if this sense porting is possible please please do it.
Thank you
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You could take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707177.
I've had some bad experiences with my last 3 HTC devices. Something I was really displeased about HTC is that they'll tout some of their devices as the greatest device ever and then stop supporting it within 3-4 months. This has happened with a phone I bought for myself, a phone I bought for my sister and the HTC Flyer.
My dad currently is looking for a new phone and he's had his eyes set on the HTC One X. I'm little bit hesitant because of HTC's behavior with keeping their device updated.
What is the say of the community on this phone? Mostly, people with negative experiences are the ones who are vocal about it so the good and complimenting threads get burred.
Are you guys waiting for Jelly Bean? How are you guys feeling about HTC with their work/support on this device? Has HTC been proactive in fixing whatever might be problematic?
Thank you, community!
Personally, between you and me, I'm telling my dad to get a Galaxy S3.
Having said that, I love my phone and would never trade it for a gs3.
I think HTC does a little better designing their phones hardware than other companies. Their software updates seem to take 3 months to happen and this latest update fixed most people's complaints about the software.
Having said that, Samsung has much more support overall. The whole ecosystem really. From finding cases in physical stores to finding other people who actually own the same phone as you.
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I've had some bad experiences with my last 3 HTC devices. Something I was really displeased about HTC is that they'll tout some of their devices as the greatest device ever and then stop supporting it within 3-4 months. This has happened with a phone I bought for myself, a phone I bought for my sister and the HTC Flyer.
My dad currently is looking for a new phone and he's had his eyes set on the HTC One X. I'm little bit hesitant because of HTC's behavior with keeping their device updated.
What is the say of the community on this phone? Mostly, people with negative experiences are the ones who are vocal about it so the good and complimenting threads get burred.
Are you guys waiting for Jelly Bean? How are you guys feeling about HTC with their work/support on this device? Has HTC been proactive in fixing whatever might be problematic?
Thank you, community!
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Update-wise, HTC seems like they do get the updates out, but they sure do take their time...
If your dad wants something more user friendly and functional, Touchwiz is probably better than Sense, even if it looks much less refined. Samsung also is pretty good about source release, so if those things matter, go with the GS3. If he's willing to deal with the issues that the One X may have, it will be a great phone.
theomni said:
I've had some bad experiences with my last 3 HTC devices. Something I was really displeased about HTC is that they'll tout some of their devices as the greatest device ever and then stop supporting it within 3-4 months. This has happened with a phone I bought for myself, a phone I bought for my sister and the HTC Flyer.
My dad currently is looking for a new phone and he's had his eyes set on the HTC One X. I'm little bit hesitant because of HTC's behavior with keeping their device updated.
What is the say of the community on this phone? Mostly, people with negative experiences are the ones who are vocal about it so the good and complimenting threads get burred.
Are you guys waiting for Jelly Bean? How are you guys feeling about HTC with their work/support on this device? Has HTC been proactive in fixing whatever might be problematic?
Thank you, community!
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Well, the question is, is your dad the kind of person who will actually care about getting updates? The most recent OTA from AT&T is 2.20, which is also coming stock on most phones now, and from what I understand, it's already pretty smooth and most of the bugs in previous versions have been squashed.
A Jelly Bean update has been guaranteed for the One X at some point, but will your dad care if it ever comes? Or does he just want a phone that works out of the box?
Personally, I love my One X and I'd be happy run AOKP or even a Sense-based ROM on it for 2 years. It's smooth and fast, has a great camera (even with AOKP), good battery life, and awesome build quality. Jelly Bean will be nice when it comes, but I'm not desperate for it - especially now that I'm running AOKP and have an ICS-compatible version of Google Now that (mostly) works.
That said, do I wish we had the dev support of the S3? Sure, but the One X has a much more limited audience, so it's just not going to happen.
Good vibes miian good vibes
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I thought it would be good to start a threat about kitkat anticipation and also when a ROM is spotted we would have a place to talk about it. A lot of people are porting the HTC one ROMs to the one x and there is some CM kitkat ROMs already on the HTC one. So maybe we can find someone to port it soon. Its already apparent that the sense versions are behind . the HTC one has 4.3 and sense 5.5.. Pure android seems like it will be the only way for new ROMs
I feel as though we should leave kitkat alone and mainly focus on the roms at hand, but I definately would not mind a nice piece of chocolate if you catch my drift
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Pure android seems like it will be the only way for new ROMs
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I'm not sure why you see that. There were at least 2 or 3 devs that ported Sense 5 over from the M7 to the EVITA (before HTC released Sense 5 for us officially). As long as there is interest by devs, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same again for KitKat and Sense 5.5. True, the hardware hurdles will be an issue. But AOSP ROMs will experience their share, as well.
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I'm not sure why you see that. There were at least 2 or 3 devs that ported Sense 5 over from the M7 to the EVITA (before HTC released Sense 5 for us officially). As long as there is interest by devs, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same again for KitKat and Sense 5.5. True, the hardware hurdles will be an issue. But AOSP ROMs will experience their share, as well.
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Team Venom has released the Viper ROM for the HTC One. They released ViperXL for ours. Seems like they have all the necessary talent and tools to put together a new ViperXL release with 4.3/Sense5.5
I am pretty sure Kit Kat is going to be a while. It would be really cool to get a 4.3 Rom good enough to be a daily driver. They are getting there. We still have a healthy Dev community.
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As far as 4.3 being a daily driver, I'm running PAC 4.3.1 with touched 6.1 kernel with no problems, I use it as a daily driver. I've been on 4.3 maybe a month with little to no problems. So I think 4.4 is looking good for our phones
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While you're having success with that ROM there have been several problems plaguing 4.3 ROMs, that's what's being referred to.
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Well here's the first kitkat rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535315
Also saw in some other thread a screenshot of Evita running CM11 (H8's screenshot, I think), so yeah. :good:
4.4 Kit-Kat is officially coming to The HTC One in January of 2014 So hopefully we see a nice port come to our One X/L
Unfortunately it's pretty difficult to port from the One due to the different chipsets and resolution, it just doesn't work properly. A port would need to come from a similar device, like maybe the One Mini.
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HTC releases their updates on time. Blame your carrier for the delays
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I've read in many places that Evita is going to get even an Android 5 update, so "Why so disappointed?"...
After all, it has been a flagship phone for several months and is still a powerful one in the markets
I seriously doubt this phone will ever get Android 5.0 as an official update, I'd put money on it. I'm not sure where you read that but it's highly unlikely. We're probably not even going to officially see 4.3 or 4.4.
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I'm fairly certain that the Evita is done for updates. Also, HTC has a horrendous record of keeping their promises when it comes to release dates. Remember that update we were supposed to get at the end of November? Remember how it wasn't released until march nearly 5 months later? I do. That's when I rooted my phone.
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That was the carriers fault. Adding all that bloatwear takes time dontcha-know.
And I was talking about a Port from the One by our devs here to the One X.
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I've read in many places that Evita is going to get even an Android 5 update, so "Why so disappointed?"...
After all, it has been a flagship phone for several months and is still a powerful one in the markets
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No we are supposedly getting a Sense 5 Update (Android 4.2 from Android 4.1.1 I think) But AT&T won't get it till next November probably
You're not quite right about that. HTC push their own non-carrier updates to their non branded/Asian models and they do have a terrible record of keeping promises and getting them out on time, if at all.
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Hey guys I have the international version but both versions seem to be abandoned by HTC but there is a glimmer of hope as Google want 4.4 pushing out to all devices capable of running it so hopefully HTC will update all the one series phones eventually.
Google can't even get their own nexus (galaxy) updated. What makes you think they can make HTC do it. This phone won't get any more updates. The next HTC one will be out soon and all focus will go for that.
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shoredroid
anyone here running shoredroid 4.4 on their at&t one x?
just flashed mine last night after unlock/root/s-off/ and I can't believe how much more smooth and fast my phone feels.
now I just have to order a new screen to replace this cracked junk!
guess thats what I get for an $80 craigslist phone huh?
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anyone here running shoredroid 4.4 on their at&t one x?
just flashed mine last night after unlock/root/s-off/ and I can't believe how much more smooth and fast my phone feels.
now I just have to order a new screen to replace this cracked junk!
guess thats what I get for an $80 craigslist phone huh?
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All of the kitkat roms are pretty darn smooth. I had some SD card/signal loss/reboot problems on shoredroid so I moved to the CM 11 nightlies. Latest nightly working perfectly so far *crosses fingers*
Hello everyone. I'm huge fan of HTC, and i think probably the HTC One E8 will be my next phone.
I like Sense... but when i see the next Android version "L" for the first time i fall in love literally.
My question is... There's someone could do a Android Stock ROM for this amazing phone? I think the ports of the M8 on the E8 will not be really difficult.
Thanks in advance, cheers mates!
+1 here. A huge HTC fan but contradicts with using Samsung. I'm hoping to go back to my roots and have too earmarked the E8, just seems like the perfect phone man.
Like you, I'm also a bit worried of the lack of development happening on this phone. It's just a shame really , everything has it on my checklist and what's reluctant for me to go for is absent - development.
I'm still really really waiting for a dev to pick this up and work on it, plus yeah, guess some tweaking of the M8 ROMs could do the trick.
I have been trying really hard to replace my One XL with a new Lollipop enabled phone, but have been hard pressed to find a replacement. the OPO is brilliant, but is a bit too big for me (though I might still cave in).
So, considering I am planning to stick with my One XL for sometime, I'm trying to see if we can get devs interested in porting Lollipop over. The biggest advantage that I'm looking for is performance and battery life boost - due to Volta and ART, which may extend the usefulness of the One XL considerably.
Why should you be excited for Lollipop on the One X
Material Design UI - http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
ART and Project Volta - http://www.latinpost.com/articles/16930/20140711/android-l-battery-life-glance-project-volta-art.htm
REQUIREMENTS:
Be the first person to create the following:
AOSP Android 5.0 OR Cyanogenmod 12 port OR Paranoid Android Lollipop port for the One XL
Voice+data (atleast HSDPA), Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC
ART instead of Dalvik
Project Volta enabled
Make a post in this thread with the following:
Proving it works with appropriate photos and/or screenshots
Providing full step-by-step instructions for which anyone else can follow
Confirmation from at least 2 persons on these forums that the ROM is working
Claim your bounty via PM from pledger(s)
Payment(s) will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
LIST OF PLEDGES
sandys1 - 10$
eyemyt - 15$.
obsidian_eclipse - 15$
I'm in. My pledge 15$.
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great to see the ball rolling !
Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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You mean AOSP.
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CyanJustice said:
You mean AOSP.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
Ok lollipop does look pretty great sans sense so it sounds like a good investment, provided a reasonable time scale for it's production, so hopefully the pledges will come in.
sandys1 said:
Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
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Oh yeah he did, my bad lol
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CM12 work has started - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android/tree/cm-12.0 Now, it's upto a dev to volunteer for the evita!
Waiting for the good news.....
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paras33 said:
Waiting for the good news.....
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Device cutoff based on specifications. We expect 512mb devices to be fine, but the issue here will be GPU and non-Kitkat binaries. Expect a hard line here drawn in the sand with respect to device support. This will not be pretty for many older generation devices (pre-ICS).
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Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
sandys1 said:
this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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Well psh, we're definitely not pre-ICS.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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timmaaa said:
You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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CyanJustice said:
Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Exactly, that's why I still have my HTC Inspire 4G, HTC One X, and my new LG G3. No sense in getting rid of the old ones when they work great with all of the ROM development that occurs! That old Inspire works great as a walkman while out in the mountains!
should just be happy with the kk roms and cm11 with gapps until something better comes out. I really like the 5.0 interface but it is really nothing ground breaking
Agreed...only thing to look to is if any real performance improvement....
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