Quick question/opinions for folks: I am getting my phone back from HTC tomorrow. The USB charging port was worn down and I had a minor crack in the screen. They originally wanted $200 for the fix because "they had to remove the screen to get to the USB port" so "installing a new screen had to be done" bla bla bla. I found a warranty discrepancy and ended up getting it all fixed for free (including a brand new screen!). So, I was running ABC and XYZ ROM's (obviously no point in saying what ones) before I sent it back. I did a full wipe via TWRP as well. How have people gotten their phones back via warranty from HTC? Like, your original phone sent back to get fixed and sent back to you? Not an overnight shipment of a refurb...but your own phone back?
What I am basically asking is: how does the phone come back internally (software wise). Will there be an unlocked, s-off bootloader like I had it? Will it still be S-Off? I have tried to ask this question in the main sections to no avail. When my phone comes back stock...the guy from HTC, it sounded like it would come back as Android 4.4.4 KitKat? If it's not rooted, s-off, unlocked and all that good stuff...am I better off waiting to get cracking away on the software side of things until the official Verizon OTA comes through? I am assuming it's Sense 7 and hopefully Lollipop 5.1. People have said rooting 4.4.4 is much easier than trying it on Lollipop. I would like to know what I'm in for once I get my toy back? This Samsung Droid Charge has actually been really fun to use for the past 10 days haha. Please PM me your answers/thoughts/opinions/experiences. No need to post here anymore. Like I said...I am sorry for posting here, but I had no other choice.
rhodyvik said:
Quick question/opinions for folks: I am getting my phone back from HTC tomorrow. The USB charging port was worn down and I had a minor crack in the screen. They originally wanted $200 for the fix because "they had to remove the screen to get to the USB port" so "installing a new screen had to be done" bla bla bla. I found a warranty discrepancy and ended up getting it all fixed for free (including a brand new screen!). So, I was running ABC and XYZ ROM's (obviously no point in saying what ones) before I sent it back. I did a full wipe via TWRP as well. How have people gotten their phones back via warranty from HTC? Like, your original phone sent back to get fixed and sent back to you? Not an overnight shipment of a refurb...but your own phone back?
What I am basically asking is: how does the phone come back internally (software wise). Will there be an unlocked, s-off bootloader like I had it? Will it still be S-Off? I have tried to ask this question in the main sections to no avail. When my phone comes back stock...the guy from HTC, it sounded like it would come back as Android 4.4.4 KitKat? If it's not rooted, s-off, unlocked and all that good stuff...am I better off waiting to get cracking away on the software side of things until the official Verizon OTA comes through? I am assuming it's Sense 7 and hopefully Lollipop 5.1. People have said rooting 4.4.4 is much easier than trying it on Lollipop. I would like to know what I'm in for once I get my toy back? This Samsung Droid Charge has actually been really fun to use for the past 10 days haha. Please PM me your answers/thoughts/opinions/experiences. No need to post here anymore. Like I said...I am sorry for posting here, but I had no other choice.
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If it's your phone they send back they may swap the board to cover the port.
The old HTC repair facility in Houston would flash and revert your board to whatever was the latest os. They would also revert any s or unlock status. The new repair facility in Tennessee has been missing stuff left and right...so post your results. I'm curious what you get back.
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rhodyvik said:
Quick question/opinions for folks: I am getting my phone back from HTC tomorrow. The USB charging port was worn down and I had a minor crack in the screen. They originally wanted $200 for the fix because "they had to remove the screen to get to the USB port" so "installing a new screen had to be done" bla bla bla. I found a warranty discrepancy and ended up getting it all fixed for free (including a brand new screen!). So, I was running ABC and XYZ ROM's (obviously no point in saying what ones) before I sent it back. I did a full wipe via TWRP as well. How have people gotten their phones back via warranty from HTC? Like, your original phone sent back to get fixed and sent back to you? Not an overnight shipment of a refurb...but your own phone back?
What I am basically asking is: how does the phone come back internally (software wise). Will there be an unlocked, s-off bootloader like I had it? Will it still be S-Off? I have tried to ask this question in the main sections to no avail. When my phone comes back stock...the guy from HTC, it sounded like it would come back as Android 4.4.4 KitKat? If it's not rooted, s-off, unlocked and all that good stuff...am I better off waiting to get cracking away on the software side of things until the official Verizon OTA comes through? I am assuming it's Sense 7 and hopefully Lollipop 5.1. People have said rooting 4.4.4 is much easier than trying it on Lollipop. I would like to know what I'm in for once I get my toy back? This Samsung Droid Charge has actually been really fun to use for the past 10 days haha. Please PM me your answers/thoughts/opinions/experiences. No need to post here anymore. Like I said...I am sorry for posting here, but I had no other choice.
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Hey dude, I finally was able to get back to your PM, hit me back up in PM if you have any more questions. The man regarding the S-OFF if you do get the phone back with the new 5.0.1 software is actually the man above me in this post. Great amazing guy!
As for the phone, I assume that it will come back on the latest OTA which is 5.0.1 and unfortunately SunShine (the S-OFF tool) only supports up to 4.4.4. So you will need to ship it to someone with a JavaCard my personal suggestion - the man above.
I have yet to have to send any of my devices to HTC for any fixes so unfortunately I do not know for sure, but I don't think it will be coming back with 4.4.4 but rather the latest OTA 5.0.1.
dottat said:
If it's your phone they send back they may swap the board to cover the port.
The old HTC repair facility in Houston would flash and revert your board to whatever was the latest os. They would also revert any s or unlock status. The new repair facility in Tennessee has been missing stuff left and right...so post your results. I'm curious what you get back.
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Thanks for the reply @dottat! You seem to always find my questions/responses/suggestions and offer up some good tips :good:
I chatted with HTC online and the guy said I would be getting the phone back with 5.0.2. I didn't want to push the issue with rooting, unlocking, etc by asking him. TBH I think I did ask him about it being harder to root and he said, which I thought was funny, "I'm sorry it's more difficult...but I have no idea what you're talking about" hahahaha. I will DEFINITELY post here tomorrow after I charge up my phone and see what happens. I'm just going to boot normally and that's it. I won't even do a HTC Restore. I want to see how it is. Maybe I'll be lucky and get Sense 7? I doubt it though.
Be ready for a notification tomorrow. I'll need your help tomorrow so I can start flashing some bomb ass @andybones ROM's as well as the ones you work on!
andybones said:
Hey dude, I finally was able to get back to your PM, hit me back up in PM if you have any more questions. The man regarding the S-OFF if you do get the phone back with the new 5.0.1 software is actually the man above me in this post. Great amazing guy!
As for the phone, I assume that it will come back on the latest OTA which is 5.0.1 and unfortunately SunShine (the S-OFF tool) only supports up to 4.4.4. So you will need to ship it to someone with a JavaCard my personal suggestion - the man above.
I have yet to have to send any of my devices to HTC for any fixes so unfortunately I do not know for sure, but I don't think it will be coming back with 4.4.4 but rather the latest OTA 5.0.1.
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You would be correct...I'm 99.9% sure but the HTC Chat guy said it would be 5.0.2. I, like I mentioned above, am also hoping for Sense 7 but I doubt it. Even VZW hasn't put out that OTA.
My question to both @dottat and @andybones : should I just wait to root and do all that stuff after our expected next OTA from Verizon which should be, AT LEAST, Sense 7.0? Any chance they'd come out with Android 5.1 along with it? I ask because I'd rather be on stock everything if I can get it. I don't even know if I can flash TWRP to flash any of the ROM's you guys work on. Am I correct in that? Thanks for all the help past, present and future fellas. IT really is awesome that you care this much. I feel like we're the 1% of the entire XDA forums that post to help people and resolve issues...and not just download, flash, complain and leave.
-Vik
You do realize the current ota is not able to be s-off'd right? So taking another one if it landed would only likely compound things. I would get it s-off using any means possible asap (Java card/sunshine/etc).
Also, to comment on your charging port replacement. (And you may not like my opinion here).
You should be gracious in the fact they did this for free. Taking apart this phone is a pain in the ass when the screen isn't broken because it takes some prying to pop it out of the shell. Anyone that says you don't have to remove screen to replace the charging port hasn't removed the guts on one with a broken screen. You end up breaking it a whole lot worse than it was. Trust me on that. HTC reasonably would NOT work on a phone where they are likely to make things worse. Afterall, they didn't break the screen.
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rhodyvik said:
You would be correct...I'm 99.9% sure but the HTC Chat guy said it would be 5.0.2. I, like I mentioned above, am also hoping for Sense 7 but I doubt it. Even VZW hasn't put out that OTA.
My question to both @dottat and @andybones : should I just wait to root and do all that stuff after our expected next OTA from Verizon which should be, AT LEAST, Sense 7.0? Any chance they'd come out with Android 5.1 along with it? I ask because I'd rather be on stock everything if I can get it. I don't even know if I can flash TWRP to flash any of the ROM's you guys work on. Am I correct in that? Thanks for all the help past, present and future fellas. IT really is awesome that you care this much. I feel like we're the 1% of the entire XDA forums that post to help people and resolve issues...and not just download, flash, complain and leave.
-Vik
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I agree with the above post, S-OFF as soon as possible, there is no benefit to waiting. If you're lucky enough too use SunShine go that route - but if on an Android version they don't support I 100% suggest going java card. I used java card for S-OFF onmy my M7 and more recently on my M9.
As for the screen @dottat he had a crack and was willing to pay for it if HTC ended up breaking it in the charging port fixing, however due to a discrepancy that Vic found he was able to pay for the charging port fix while getting g a new screen for free as per HTC's fault in their wording. (Vic please correct me if I'm mistaken here.)
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I agree with the above post, S-OFF as soon as possible, there is no benefit to waiting. If you're lucky enough too use SunShine go that route - but if on an Android version they don't support I 100% suggest going java card. I used java card for S-OFF onmy my M7 and more recently on my M9.
As for the screen @dottat he had a crack and was willing to pay for it if HTC ended up breaking it in the charging port fixing, however due to a discrepancy that Vic found he was able to pay for the charging port fix while getting g a new screen for free as per HTC's fault in their wording. (Vic please correct me if I'm mistaken here.)
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Part of my response here was in regards to what had been posted in other non-relevant threads. The question was asked as to whether it was required to remove the screen to replace the USB port. On the M8, the screen assembly comes out attached to the mainboard and battery etc. In order to remove it from the aluminum back you must pry it gently in order to remove it. If the screen had an existing defect prior to this process, it's sure to shatter in the removal process as during the normal process the glass must flex (something a broken/cracked screen would likely fail to do). While the screen doesn't technically get removed from the mainboard and battery...the worst part of the process is actually the spudging required to free the entire assembly from the back.
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Part of my response here was in regards to what had been posted in other non-relevant threads. The question was asked as to whether it was required to remove the screen to replace the USB port. On the M8, the screen assembly comes out attached to the mainboard and battery etc. In order to remove it from the aluminum back you must pry it gently in order to remove it. If the screen had an existing defect prior to this process, it's sure to shatter in the removal process as during the normal process the glass must flex (something a broken/cracked screen would likely fail to do). While the screen doesn't technically get removed from the mainboard and battery...the worst part of the process is actually the spudging required to free the entire assembly from the back.
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ahh yea, I missed all of this. This thread, and PMs with Vic is the only things I saw.
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ahh yea, I missed all of this. This thread, and PMs with Vic is the only things I saw.
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@dottat
@andybones
Okay guys. I have my phone up and running and updating apps. Currently it's running 4.4.4. I have the ability to NOT install the updates (it says there are two updates).
So:
4.4.4
Sense: 6.0
Should I just let it update to Lollipop?
EDIT: TO clarify: The charging port was under warranty. Somehow they were trying to fleece me for $200. I had a total cost of zero dollars to do all of this. Just a 2 week span without the phone!
rhodyvik said:
@dottat
@andybones
Okay guys. I have my phone up and running and updating apps. Currently it's running 4.4.4. I have the ability to NOT install the updates (it says there are two updates).
So:
4.4.4
Sense: 6.0
Should I just let it update to Lollipop?
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Not if you want to root it.
Verify everything works as expected. GPS. Wi-Fi. Screen pixels all OK.
Then sunshine that puppy before taking any update.
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andybones said:
Hey dude, I finally was able to get back to your PM, hit me back up in PM if you have any more questions. The man regarding the S-OFF if you do get the phone back with the new 5.0.1 software is actually the man above me in this post. Great amazing guy!
As for the phone, I assume that it will come back on the latest OTA which is 5.0.1 and unfortunately SunShine (the S-OFF tool) only supports up to 4.4.4. So you will need to ship it to someone with a JavaCard my personal suggestion - the man above.
I have yet to have to send any of my devices to HTC for any fixes so unfortunately I do not know for sure, but I don't think it will be coming back with 4.4.4 but rather the latest OTA 5.0.1.
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rhodyvik said:
@dottat
@andybones
Okay guys. I have my phone up and running and updating apps. Currently it's running 4.4.4. I have the ability to NOT install the updates (it says there are two updates).
So:
4.4.4
Sense: 6.0
Should I just let it update to Lollipop?
EDIT: TO clarify: The charging port was under warranty. Somehow they were trying to fleece me for $200. I had a total cost of zero dollars to do all of this. Just a 2 week span without the phone!
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Glad you have your phone back man. (You are very lucky it came back with 4.4.4!)
Doug answered the question already.. but I also did before as well (see my earlier post - I have included in this post, I highlighted it in red ..)
SunShine supports Android 4.4.4 it does NOT support lollipop.
Thus, if you want root/S-OFF you can either stay on 4.4.4 use SunShine and get S-OFF without the device leaving your hands.
Or, upgrade to lollipop and have to send your device out to someone with a JavaCard. (Not the ideal method when you can have S-OFF within minutes)
I would stay on 4.4.4 use SunShine to S-OFF (a well worth $25 fee)
Then, you simply go to the development section (or maybe it's in general) and flash the latest RUU for the HTC One M8 Verizon.
Version 4.17.605.6
Here I will even link them for you.
SunShine
S-OFF Thread
RUU - main thread
you want this one
and here is the custom recovery you want
You are now all set and ready to roll
andybones said:
Glad you have your phone back man. (You are very lucky it came back with 4.4.4!)
Doug answered the question already.. but I also did before as well (see my earlier post - I have included in this post, I highlighted it in red ..)
SunShine supports Android 4.4.4 it does NOT support lollipop.
Thus, if you want root/S-OFF you can either stay on 4.4.4 use SunShine and get S-OFF without the device leaving your hands.
Or, upgrade to lollipop and have to send your device out to someone with a JavaCard. (Not the ideal method when you can have S-OFF within minutes)
I would stay on 4.4.4 use SunShine to S-OFF (a well worth $25 fee)
Then, you simply go to the development section (or maybe it's in general) and flash the latest RUU for the HTC One M8 Verizon.
Version 4.17.605.6
Here I will even link them for you.
SunShine
S-OFF Thread
RUU - main thread
you want this one
and here is the custom recovery you want
You are now all set and ready to roll
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Awesome folks. Just awesome. Sunshine it is! I was able to gain S-Off and Unlock my Bootloader and Root all for free when I did it back in July. Is there a change in that method? I remember using WeakSauce and that's about it. I remember not paying for it that's all. And now I do. I can go to HTCDev and that won't work either now. I'm kinda pissed haha. So Sunshine is my only option then, correct? Thanks again for the assistance.
rhodyvik said:
Awesome folks. Just awesome. Sunshine it is! I was able to gain S-Off and Unlock my Bootloader and Root all for free when I did it back in July. Is there a change in that method? I remember using WeakSauce and that's about it. I remember not paying for it that's all. And now I do. I can go to HTCDev and that won't work either now. I'm kinda pissed haha. So Sunshine is my only option then, correct? Thanks again for the assistance.
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If you read the SunShine thread, firewater is what you used for free, and is now SunShine, WeakSauce is just for root, not S-OFF/unlock of bootloader. Root will not allow flashing of custom recovery and ROMs.
The people behind SunShine don't do this for free, so they now charge $25, more than worth it.
(that or figure out a way to do S-OFF and you provide it for free)
(I believe they started charging per S-OFF because their used to be "bounty" threads on XDA for the S-OFF methods, and they'd get maybe 10% of the people who promised to pay. Not fair and not worth their time and efforts.)
Let's just be thankful we have people like the SunShine crew doing this for us, and only charge $25, they could literally charge whatever they want, people like us want S-OFF, and I'd easily pay $50.
Without these guys providing S-OFF, I personally wouldn't be on an HTC device.
I personally don't see why you are pissed? We are quite lucky, IMO.
Or stay stock.
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If you read the SunShine thread, firewater is what you used for free, and is now SunShine, WeakSauce is just for root, not S-OFF/unlock of bootloader. Root will not allow flashing of custom recovery and ROMs.
The people behind SunShine don't do this for free, so they now charge $25, more than worth it.
(that or figure out a way to do S-OFF and you provide it for free)
(I believe they started charging per S-OFF because their used to be "bounty" threads on XDA for the S-OFF methods, and they'd get maybe 10% of the people who promised to pay. Not fair and not worth their time and efforts.)
Let's just be thankful we have people like the SunShine crew doing this for us, and only charge $25, they could literally charge whatever they want, people like us want S-OFF, and I'd easily pay $50.
Without these guys providing S-OFF, I personally wouldn't be on an HTC device.
I personally don't see why you are pissed? We are quite lucky, IMO.
Or stay stock.
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I read through it all and have no issues with the $25 at all. I was just curious because I never had to pay, that's all. I don't mind $25. It's a 30 rack!
rhodyvik said:
I read through it all and have no issues with the $25 at all. I was just curious because I never had to pay, that's all. I don't mind $25. It's a 30 rack!
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Maybe I read it wrong, but you said you were "kinda pissed".
I am glad you see it the way it should be, however. I was just explaining to you why it is no longer free. Wasn't trying to give you any crap.
andybones said:
Maybe I read it wrong, but you said you were "kinda pissed".
I am glad you see it the way it should be, however. I was just explaining to you why it is no longer free. Wasn't trying to give you any crap.
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I think we had a miscommunication misstep there. No hard feelings meant anywhere! And guess what? I got an additional 100GB free Google Drive Storage hahahahaha...unless everyone is getting it now. Then I'd just feel like a jackass.
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Also, the tech dude who worked on my phone left me a couple selfies....
This has been amusing so far. And not to take away from my previous device...but this one is so much better. Smoother screen, smoother UI, quicker, etc. Unless it's because I'm still on KitKat. I'll Sunshine it this weekend.
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rhodyvik said:
I think we had a miscommunication misstep there. No hard feelings meant anywhere! And guess what? I got an additional 100GB free Google Drive Storage hahahahaha...unless everyone is getting it now. Then I'd just feel like a jackass.
Also, the tech dude who worked on my phone left me a couple selfies....
This has been amusing so far. And not to take away from my previous device...but this one is so much better. Smoother screen, smoother UI, quicker, etc. Unless it's because I'm still on KitKat. I'll Sunshine it this weekend.
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All good. You must be on kitkat to use SunShine....
If you upgrade to lollipop you will have to ship phone oit to a person with a java card costing more than $25 and be without phone for 5+ days.
(Unless your kitkat comments referring to being a newer version than what you were previously on, to which we don't know what that was).
Nothing neew concerning the storage (iirc)
The selfiies however are quite humorous.
andybones said:
All good. You must be on kitkat to use SunShine....
If you upgrade to lollipop you will have to ship phone oit to a person with a java card costing more than $25 and be without phone for 5+ days.
(Unless your kitkat comments referring to being a newer version than what you were previously on, to which we don't know what that was).
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No no...I get the whole Sunshine thing. I researched WeakSauce and Firewater and they've just said to go Sunshine. Must be making good money though. I'm going to stay stock for a bit and just have some fun like this. Being back on KK is fun, in a weird way. Just like the guy fixing my phone in that pic haha.
We're good dude. I am actually happy to pay the $25 and have everything done for me and guaranteed to work or my money back!
The extra 100GB in the cloud is CLUTCH for me. I think DRIVE assumes I have a new phone which comes with the extra 100GB. I'm just having fun.
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I know you've said it 3 times....I'm STAYING on KitKat until I use Sunshine, no worries there
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i happened to find this while just looking online although it seems like there are arguments against it and for it accross the table... im neutral as id much rather have an unlocked bootloader i am simply just posting this so everyone can see it and maybe share something to prove or disprove
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/16/verizon-wont-unlock-galaxy-s-iii-bootloader/
this says they wont release an update to unlock the s3
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this says they wont release an update to unlock the s3
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Verizon never made any sort of promise that they would unlock the bootloader. The rumor got started a month ago from transcripts of chats with ill-informed customer service reps who didn't know a bootloader from a barnacle. They chose to lock it, and they will not willingly reverse that decision. When our bootloader gets unlocked, it will be through the fine efforts of communities like this one. Depending on the type of exploit, I might not be surprised if Verizon then pushes an update to relock the bootloader, as has happened with some HTC phones in the past.
In general, never take the word of a CSR without a fair bit of skepticism, especially if it conflicts with VZW's official statements.
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Verizon never made any sort of promise that they would unlock the bootloader. The rumor got started a month ago from transcripts of chats with ill-informed customer service reps who didn't know a bootloader from a barnacle. They chose to lock it, and they will not willingly reverse that decision. When our bootloader gets unlocked, it will be through the fine efforts of communities like this one. Depending on the type of exploit, I might not be surprised if Verizon then pushes an update to relock the bootloader, as has happened with some HTC phones in the past.
In general, never take the word of a CSR without a fair bit of skepticism, especially if it conflicts with VZW's official statements.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but once and if the bootloader is unlocked we can just stay on that bootloader (unlocked) even if verizon does try to re-lock it correct? In a sense similar to s-off
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niv3d said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but once and if the bootloader is unlocked we can just stay on that bootloader (unlocked) even if verizon does try to re-lock it correct? In a sense similar to s-off
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IMO - Its just safe practace not to take any OTA updates until after the Devs got them fixed. Verizon could patch their own bootloader if they needed to - via an OTA. So, yes, you could stay unlocked (once it is unlocked anyway), so long as you stay away from OTAs .
i have a thunderbolt and in 9 days when i have an upgrade available on my account will be getting the s3. on my thunderbolt after i rooted i never even had to block updates i just straight up never got ota updates. is there a setting in the s3 that ill need to check or uncheck a box to not receive them after i root?
why are so many folks concerned about ota updates? The day one roots his/her phone OTA should be forgotten. The devs here will have all the updates we can possibly achieve and in alot more timely fashion.
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why are so many folks concerned about ota updates? The day one roots his/her phone OTA should be forgotten. The devs here will have all the updates we can possibly achieve and in alot more timely fashion.
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**** yeah!
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if you actually took the time to read my post you would have noticed that i asked if there is a way to NOT RECEIVE OTA UPDATES as opposed to asking about receiving them. i will post that question in q and a when i get the phone thanks anyways
beeholtz said:
if you actually took the time to read my post you would have noticed that i asked if there is a way to NOT RECEIVE OTA UPDATES as opposed to asking about receiving them. i will post that question in q and a when i get the phone thanks anyways
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I did read your post...my apologies since that post was not 100% directed towards you...I kind of hijacked your thread posting that for others to read lol. There has been 100 threads on here about "will I lose ota if I root".
A big cellphone company lied to us? It can't be. Haha sorry for the sarcasm but the way this phone has been going I think an unlock will come through the developers over the big companies. That means we'll have to pay up on that bounty.
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ya my bad too i didnt mean to be a **** about it. i had some ahole customer i dont like helping come up today. fixing their computers and network just makes about anything else sound like more fun. im just stoked to get the phone soon but i also am getting it knowing about having a locked bootloader and the possibility of all those little quirks and issues that some people have and some dont. On my thunderbolt i rooted it not long after i got it and have flashed roms and kernels and radios etc until i find one i really like at the time. I'm figuring once the dev. edition comes out people will get it and verizon will then do the same thing on the next big deal phone that comes out in however many months.
I swear at this point, they're just sitting back in their chairs and cackling madly. Biggest trolls ever.
I think the "ota" talk only references people who are stock and take ota, get said-bootloader "fixed" by vzw, then want to mod afterwards. Then a new/different method will have to be used, whether it be Odin/rollback/whatever is come up with.
People already unlocked and rooted will be fine.
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I can't say i'm terribly surprised, Verizon seems content to violate whatever they want for their benefit. Just need to put the pressure to them.
I am not even concerned about the boot loader anymore. You can flash kernels with kexec cwm(6010), Odin new modems and the roms that synergy, bean and Nos are producing are just fantastic. Developers will find a way and there are some great ones on the SG3.
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Rather doubt it
Doubt verizon will unlock the bootloader
anytime soon. For now we are left to
root use custom stock roms with some
themes or leave Verizon.
Cheers,
INC > TB > S3
azbobs said:
For now we are left to
root use custom stock roms with some
themes or leave Verizon.
Cheers,
INC > TB > S3
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This is simply not true...there is plenty of aosp dev going on! we have 4 cm10 roms, 1 aokp jb rom, 1 paranoidandroid rom...the bugs these roms do have are not related to the locked bootloader. Its the same issues across multiple devices. 5min of research would of yielded these results...
Verizon is NEVER going to unlock the bootloader. Ever. You can quote me on that.
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droidstyle said:
This is simply not true...there is plenty of aosp dev going on! we have 4 cm10 roms, 1 aokp jb rom, 1 paranoidandroid rom...the bugs these roms do have are not related to the locked bootloader. Its the same issues across multiple devices. 5min of research would of yielded these results...
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Ya and they all break your phone and wipe out vital information like imei and/or permanently break data.
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It's the Big Red SideShow starring Mr. Smoke & Mirror's Himself Lowell McAdams.
Verizon can burn in hell. I
Off topic, but is the volume really this quiet on this phone? I came from the OG like 2 weeks ago and it was literally double the decibels that this thing is putting out. I've heard about the volume+ app but is that the only way to increase volume? I'm still stock but plan on rooting n roming soon, perhaps one of them contains that dsp manager that cm7 base used to include?
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Hey guys, I'm considering going with they option of rooting my HTC Sensation, but I'd like to clear something up beforehand.
At the moment Im on a pay monthly contract with my HTC Sensation and I pay monthly for insurance on the handset, before I go rooting my phone, if for some reason I need to send this phone off to my provider will my insurance be void? Or is this just the case if I haven't managed to return the phone to stock setup?
Id really like to try rooting my phone, but I dont want to have the problem of not being able to send the phone off for repairs or whatnot in the future. By repairs, obviously Im not referring to any problem that could occur during the rooting process, I mean more in the sense of hardware issues etc.
Any help is appreciated, and I apologise if this has been asked/answered before, I did do a forum search but found nothing.
Thanks.
You can S-Off your device without unlocking the bootloader over HTCdev. This way you can root and flash custom ROMs/kernels without loosing your warrenty.
If you have issues and you have to send the phone in, you can just run an RUU for you phone and S-On it again. Nobody would know that you have rooted it.
And if you want to S-Off take a look at the Hboot version! Hboot 1.2x has a different and more difficult way of S-Off'ing.
Oh right, how would I go about S-off'ing my phone? Would it still require me to go through the whole root process first off?
Thanks for your help
First we have to know your H boot version to direct you to the proper guide. To find out, pull battery, put battery back in, then at the same time press power and volume down button. Hold. Then you will see a screen pop up. Look at the information on Top of the screen. Then tell us your H Boot version. by the
Way, I also pay insurance every month on my device and I'm rooted and S off. If anything should happen I would restore back to stock and S on again. This way they would not know device was rooted. Hope this helps.
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Just did as you asked and my H boot version is 1.27.0000. That is what I was curious about, the whole insurance deal.
My main reason for considering rooting is to be able to theme my phone a bit more than what a launcher lets me, so what is recommended for this, just rooting, just S-off'ing or both?
Thanks
Gaz1521 said:
Just did as you asked and my H boot version is 1.27.0000. That is what I was curious about, the whole insurance deal.
My main reason for considering rooting is to be able to theme my phone a bit more than what a launcher lets me, so what is recommended for this, just rooting, just S-off'ing or both?
Thanks
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Both process are reversible, once its s-off and rooted, just dont change your hboot and your good to go. I had the same concern, yet when i needed to return my phone for the warranty, they never even cared and sent me the other one without question (after i turned back the s-on of course). Follow Ganesh's guide here: https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGNDWtlRFM7pBTIlQr-Y6Vd4nJEgw
Very easy and completely safe!
BoB!!
I suggest rooting and S off. I don't regret it for a second! I try all kinds of awesome roms and I'm able to customize to exactly how I want things! It's been a totally positive experience for me. As I mentioned in above post, I too pay the extra insurance monthly. If there we're a issue I'd return to stock. As above member mentioned he did it and didn't have any problems. I think once your rooted and s off you will be very happy. But do take the extra effort to s off because it's worth it in the long run and makes things easier for you, You will have the ability to do more with s off. Best wishes.
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Oh right, thanks you guys. I now feel more able to go ahead and root, now I just need to decide whether I think Im capable of doing it correctly.
Just had a look at that link you posted BobThaBear, it looks abit on the daunting side so Im going to have a long, hard think about it first.
Thanks for all of the help though, its very much appreciated
Does the T-Mobile HTC One S always come S-Off or was I lucky on my trade today? I traded my mint Sony Xperia Play (AT&T) this morning for a HTC One S, also mint. I've traded, bought and sold to the guy before and I know he gets his devices new by special means and knows nothing about rooting, bootloaders or S-Off.
Anyways I got curious in snooping around the bootloader menu and to my surprise found it to be S-Off...
Was this luck or do all/most/many come this way?
...nobody knows??? Just curious...
Crossvxm said:
...nobody knows??? Just curious...
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Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
tivofool said:
Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
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Oh okay. I was surprised to find it S-Off when I got this thing. I couldn't believe my eyes. That will save me a load full of work, especially the part were some of the tools require a Linux OS instead of Windows. Now ofcourse Linux is a download and installation away, but my "temporary" (now permanent) laptop is so old it only packs 128mb of ram (max can ONLY reach 512mb) and any type of Linux installation just hangs and never installs no matter how many hours you leave it running.
Not to mention some of these devices require the "hotwire" trick, and every time i need something (such as a paper clip) it is nowhere to be found.
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htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
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Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
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all the devices come with s-on.
real187 said:
htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
all the devices come with s-on.
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Nah trust me his knowledge on rooting and so on is VERY LOW. It once took me nearly an hour to show him how to flash a rom on a device I sold him and in a day or two he already messed things up since the rom would wipe many key apps when given an old fashion factory reset. ANOTHER good hour wasted explaining to him the process over phone. If he were to buy these devices used already then sell them to me I would believe that perhaps that person did it instead of him. He gets them brand new in a store he works in, instead of commissions/bonuses for his many sales his boss lets him pick a free phone of his choice as long as its not 100% modern (e.g. a Nexus 5. wish I had that type of boss) in which he gets the opportunity to make more money off of that but remember, his boss doesn't have to pay cash, and he's basically stuck with selling it himself.
If he cant flash a simple rom, or even use a simple app to root a device, I doubt he will ever be able to S-Off an HTC. Also if he were younger (lol) I'd consider the possibility. I honestly believe that this thing may have mistakingly been left S-Off or something by the factory. Or maybe it served a purpose back at HTC.
Whatever the case, it was a big surprise to me.
real187 said:
htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
all the devices come with s-on.
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I would have to dig through old posts to find it, but I was talking to one guy who had just bought one from a store and they were S-off supercid. He said there were about 3-4 more there. Now this guy was from the middle east, I cannot remember which country he said.
I just assumed they had to sell them to that area that way so they could be used with their particular carrier.
I'll search and post it if I can find it.
Edit: found it, he was from Pakistan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483636
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I would have to dig through old posts to find it, but I was talking to one guy who had just bought one from a store and they were S-off supercid. He said there were about 3-4 more there. Now this guy was from the middle east, I cannot remember which country he said.
I just assumed they had to sell them to that area that way so they could be used with their particular carrier.
I'll search and post it if I can find it.
Edit: found it, he was from Pakistan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483636
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Hey now that you mention it I think thats the race his bosses are. But whats a supercid? Never heard of that before?
Nah definitely not as lucky to have a supercid. I assume CID = Carrier Identification seeing mine is T-Mobile related.
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So I had 4.1.2 on my phone and rooted with no problems, but now that I updated to 4.4.2 and lost my root... I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get root back again. Anyone help me please?
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
MortTheBeast said:
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
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If you go to settings > about phone build and based band ending in ML1 NC1 NE1 have looked bootloader a meaning you can't install custom rims .. You will have to root / install safestrap and boot custom tw Roms since you are on 4.4.2 you have to wait for a 4.4.2 tw rom I don't think any are out yet
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MortTheBeast said:
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
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Since we can't install custom roms, I found this xposed module called Wanam Xposed. I'm not even rooted yet but I was going to with towelroot. Anyway, it lets you customize certain looks of the stock rom without modifying anything. You need the Xposed Framework first and then you can get Wanam Xposed.
Mon431 said:
Since we can't install custom roms, I found this xposed module called Wanam Xposed. I'm not even rooted yet but I was going to with towelroot. Anyway, it lets you customize certain looks of the stock rom without modifying anything. You need the Xposed Framework first and then you can get Wanam Xposed.
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Yea I am just going to be as patient as possible till I can unlock the bootloader. How long does it usually take for the tech geniuses to figure this kind of stuff out? I'm wishing I hadn't updated 4.4.2 now... (slaps forehead)
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Yea I am just going to be as patient as possible till I can unlock the bootloader. How long does it usually take for the tech geniuses to figure this kind of stuff out? I'm wishing I hadn't updated 4.4.2 now... (slaps forehead)
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Unless if the file leaks from Samsung like it did on 4.1.2, it won't ever get unlocked
Mon431 said:
Unless if the file leaks from Samsung like it did on 4.1.2, it won't ever get unlocked
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EEEEeeeeek! Don't say things like that! LOL
Anyway... I guess if worse comes to worse, shouldn't a Factory Reset take me back to 4.1.2? And then I would be able to try out one of the 4.4.3 CM Nightly builds
MortTheBeast said:
EEEEeeeeek! Don't say things like that! LOL
Anyway... I guess if worse comes to worse, shouldn't a Factory Reset take me back to 4.1.2? And then I would be able to try out one of the 4.4.3 CM Nightly builds
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A factory reset will reset your phone like it's new but it'll stay on the same version. For example, if you updated to 4.3 and then did a factory reset, you be on 4.3 but your phone would be reset.
Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
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Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
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1st rule of rooting...NEVER OTA! Bricks, locked bootloaders, and facepalms will be imminent.
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MortTheBeast said:
Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
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Yeah, once you update to 4.4.2 you're stuck. You will NEVER be able to go back and you'll never be able to flash a custom recovery. It's Touchwiz from here on out for you.
I feel for you, but it's pretty universally known that you don't take OTA's from Verizon OR Samsung because they usually close up loop holes.
sbenson1226 said:
Yeah, once you update to 4.4.2 you're stuck. You will NEVER be able to go back and you'll never be able to flash a custom recovery. It's Touchwiz from here on out for you.
I feel for you, but it's pretty universally known that you don't take OTA's from Verizon OR Samsung because they usually close up loop holes.
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That seems to be a little presumptuous saying "never". Software is software... which to me means "if there is a will, there is a way", in regards to hacking/cracking it. And if I get that hard pressed to want the ability to tinker with roms I can always just sell the phone and buy one thats not been updated to 4.4.2. All I can say right now being a newb to all this stuff is "lesson learned and stored in memory for future use". :good:
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That seems to be a little presumptuous saying "never". Software is software... which to me means "if there is a will, there is a way", in regards to hacking/cracking it. And if I get that hard pressed to want the ability to tinker with roms I can always just sell the phone and buy one thats not been updated to 4.4.2. All I can say right now being a newb to all this stuff is "lesson learned and stored in memory for future use". :good:
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It's not really presumptuous, it's the truth. Samsung and Verizon are hell bent on keeping their bootloaders locked down. The S5 hasn't been cracked. The S4 cannot be cracked, after MDK. The S3 cannot be cracked after 4.2.1. The S3 was pure luck because somebody inside of Samsung leaked what we needed. The only way it will ever be cracked is if Samsung themselves hand us the code. Never going to happen again. Sorry, it's the hard truth. If you want to tinker, don't buy a Verizon phone and don't buy a Samsung.
What exactly is even the reasoning behind locking the bootloader? I mean, I know they don't want people messing with their software.. but WHY? Are they not already making their profits by selling the phone? Just can't wrap my head around companies that want to limit a consumers options. That would be like buy a computer with for example Windows 8 on it and being told there is no way to remove it and install Windows 7. If I can have whatever OS I want on my computer... then how is that any different then a phone which nowadays is pretty much a handheld computer.
sbenson1226 said:
It's not really presumptuous, it's the truth. Samsung and Verizon are hell bent on keeping their bootloaders locked down. The S5 hasn't been cracked. The S4 cannot be cracked, after MDK. The S3 cannot be cracked after 4.2.1. The S3 was pure luck because somebody inside of Samsung leaked what we needed. The only way it will ever be cracked is if Samsung themselves hand us the code. Never going to happen again. Sorry, it's the hard truth. If you want to tinker, don't buy a Verizon phone and don't buy a Samsung.
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Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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What exactly is even the reasoning behind locking the bootloader? I mean, I know they don't want people messing with their software.. but WHY? Are they not already making their profits by selling the phone? Just can't wrap my head around companies that want to limit a consumers options. That would be like buy a computer with for example Windows 8 on it and being told there is no way to remove it and install Windows 7. If I can have whatever OS I want on my computer... then how is that any different then a phone which nowadays is pretty much a handheld computer.
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Locking the bootloader means added profit on verizons end. You have less access to features that get baked into a custom rom that we bypass, such as free tethering and simply making a device better than stock. Verizon wants this.
The less debloating and access to modified firmware available means they make more money on services people have to pay for.
Verizon will tell you it's better for consumers because it adds to your customer service experience. If you have a problem, and need help, then they are more likely to be able to help you knowing you are not running modified firmware that could give you a less than par experience. They will also add that using unapproved software could negatively impact their network (ie: tethering) and cause problems for other consumers.
There may be some truth in that, but without the ability to flash a new rom you essentially limit your software abilities and limit the life of the phone. It forces people to buy their services and extend their plan more often.
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The t-mobile variant for both the s3 and s4 have unlocked bootloaders on every device. None of them will work on verizons network. Every Verizon Samsung phone is completely locked down.
The last available firmware that can be unlocked on the S3 is mf1. The s4's is MDK or something but that's way harder to find. There is no unlock method for the s5.
MortTheBeast said:
Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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MortTheBeast said:
Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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If you're looking to stay with Verizon, I would keep an eye out for a GS4 with the MDK firmware. I see them pop up from time to time on Swappa, but never in the condition I'm looking for (looking to upgrade my wife). Other than that, your best bet is to leave Verizon and buy unlocked phones because at least they don't have additional carrier restrictions.
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Locking the bootloader means added profit on verizons end. You have less access to features that get baked into a custom rom that we bypass, such as free tethering and simply making a device better than stock. Verizon wants this.
The less debloating and access to modified firmware available means they make more money on services people have to pay for.
Verizon will tell you it's better for consumers because it adds to your customer service experience. If you have a problem, and need help, then they are more likely to be able to help you knowing you are not running modified firmware that could give you a less than par experience. They will also add that using unapproved software could negatively impact their network (ie: tethering) and cause problems for other consumers.
There may be some truth in that, but without the ability to flash a new rom you essentially limit your software abilities and limit the life of the phone. It forces people to buy their services and extend their plan more often.
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The t-mobile variant for both the s3 and s4 have unlocked bootloaders on every device. None of them will work on verizons network. Every Verizon Samsung phone is completely locked down.
The last available firmware that can be unlocked on the S3 is mf1. The s4's is MDK or something but that's way harder to find. There is no unlock method for the s5.
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Appreciate the response... but now you also mention the S5 having "no unlock"... what about this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711730
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If you're looking to stay with Verizon, I would keep an eye out for a GS4 with the MDK firmware. I see them pop up from time to time on Swappa, but never in the condition I'm looking for (looking to upgrade my wife). Other than that, your best bet is to leave Verizon and buy unlocked phones because at least they don't have additional carrier restrictions.
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What exactly id MDK? 4.2.2? And yea I really don't care what carrier I am with, I just want a phone I can tinker with and I been getting "tinker withdrawal" since upgrading to 4.4.2
Out of curiosity, what other phones are worth looking into that are comparable to the S3 and S4? It sucks when I am a diehard Samsung lover.
MortTheBeast said:
Appreciate the response... but now you also mention the S5 having "no unlock"... what about this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711730
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That's T-Mobile. The Verizon version is locked down.
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HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
BladeRunner said:
Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
ziddy5 said:
This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter
Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
jjmstang said:
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
BladeRunner said:
If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
mpappas87 said:
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help
same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?
Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.
benjdevel said:
I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before
Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.
Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.
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Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.
What is the status on SunShine for our device?
I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.