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[Q] Root after OTA?

Just a question, is root still possible after the OTA?

blud7 said:
Just a question, is root still possible after the OTA?
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Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.

HG! said:
Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.
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Thanks, i have triangle away so I can live with that!

HG! said:
Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.
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What does upping the flash count do?

smaw51 said:
What does upping the flash count do?
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As I understand it, it is just a counter. But anyone with a bit of a brain could /
would know that you had flashed / rooted your tablet. The main concern most
people have is in returning the tablet, where the manufacturer or dealer would
know that you flashed software and this MAY void your warranty.

blud7 said:
As I understand it, it is just a counter. But anyone with a bit of a brain could /
would know that you had flashed / rooted your tablet. The main concern most
people have is in returning the tablet, where the manufacturer or dealer would
know that you flashed software and this MAY void your warranty.
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you understand correctly, and yes, Triangle Away resets that counter. However it's also worth mentioning that with recent Samsung devices, even if you reset the counter the device will still be marked as MODIFIED. Which makes it pretty much silly to use anyways. You basically need to be unrooted for that to go away in the case you need to claim warranty... But then there's probably something wrong with the tablet that would prevent one from resetting that if you're looking at the warranty. Have a 0 counter all you want, if they find superuser/SuperSU and some root apps... then you're caught

I have decided to trip knox

Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:

lqrt said:
Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:
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If you trip knox, welcome to the family. Lol

Like you, I done it last night. Samsung can do one! Probably my last Samsung phone. Unless they sort they sort it out
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I tripped mine worry free, as you said, we own the device and can do as we please with it. Do I regret it? Nope not at all.

I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?

m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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I would suggest Helium, doesn't require root but you need to run the desktop application before you can backup.
Really simple and easy

It's blasphemy they sell the devices at a premium and we are not allowed to use as we see fit without any repercussions.
When would rooting ever make phone calls weak , buttons malfunction or whatever hardware related issue man..
@carleone82 if you are not rooting why do you need to trip the counter?

m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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Uhm rooting does not wipe anything. Why don't you just root then only backup.

Tripped mine aswell XD after 2 days of purchase

Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
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Tripped mine a few days ago.

Tripping mine now too ;D
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Wooooo root for everyone !
First thing i installed was viper audio, xposed framework, wanam xposed, maximize widgets and samsung multiple widgets.
Feels so much better already

Well, I got my Note3 N9005 (replacing my Note II) in beginning of October. Within an hour after I got home it was rooted with Chainfire's CF autoroute.
Do I regret - No Way, despite that the Knox flag is tripped.
I need the feeling of having full control of my phone and run Titanium Backup Pro, App Quarantine Pro, Root Explorer, File Manager Explorer, Nandroid Manager/Online, Mobile Odin Pro and of course SuperSU Pro.
In addition I use Philz Touch Recovery CWM which has just become available for the N9005. The rest of the phones OS is fully stock.
The tripped Knox flag doesn't really bother me. It's just a kind of a certificate to run Knox and I don't need to run that at all. I do see the point in Knox related to corporate security with a lot of employees running around with unsecured phones on the inside of the company firewall. Not to forget about all the corporate information on each phone totally unsecured. That's where the Knox container comes in handy.
As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
I have a hard time believing that it is possible to reset the Knox flag without replacing a chip on the MB or the MB itself.

Pooheyx said:
As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
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Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps

LOL, i tripped mine from day 1.

mouzam said:
Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
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If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.

daraj said:
If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.
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Not strictly true. - It depends on the root method and which bootloader etc he has.- But yes your post does have truth in it.

Kontal said:
Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps
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Look for EU regulation (1999/44/CE)
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i trip it at the third day! Know 0x1, X-Note (Perfect Rom) Rooted, i hope i will not need any Repair at this 2 years

Resetting KNOX

After rooting, using SuperSU to disable KNOX, I was playing around. Editing, deleting, freezing, etc, etc... Well I triggered KNOX somehow and had to log into my Samsung account to reset my phone each time.
Well, come to find out, after resetting my phone in recovery and then resetting my phone through setting, KNOX is reset back to 0x0.
FYI

Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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blulite said:
Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.

he mustve done somethin else.. root hasnt tripped knox for n e one yet.. mustve done somethin else lol
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DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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I would be curious to see if you ODIN'd back without root to see if you could use your phone again for work.

DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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Longcat14 said:
Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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only thing i could think of is it disabled knox but op clearly doesnt know what hes talking sbout because it wouldnt trip his knox warranty as hes suggesting.. plus hes been mia now so this thread might as well die lol
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Longcat14 said:
Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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Been waiting for root like everyone else. Read about towelroot >>> navigated to towelroot.com click on the lambda >>> dl using es downloader and install >>> make it ra1n or something :crying: >>> profit. Good no good.
I have a bad memory though and am wondering if there was an option to trip Knox or not, if there was I very well could have decided to trip it thinking I don't want half ass root issues....any way thought of resetting w/Odin but The Man will not own me!

elliwigy said:
only thing i could think of is it disabled knox but op clearly doesnt know what hes talking sbout because it wouldnt trip his knox warranty as hes suggesting.. plus hes been mia now so this thread might as well die lol
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True... I dunno WHAT happened.
DreFigs said:
Been waiting for root like everyone else. Read about towelroot >>> navigated to towelroot.com click on the lambda >>> dl using es downloader and install >>> make it ra1n or something :crying: >>> profit. Good no good.
I have a bad memory though and am wondering if there was an option to trip Knox or not, if there was I very well could have decided to trip it thinking I don't want half ass root issues....any way thought of resetting w/Odin but The Man will not own me!
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So phone info is showing 0x1 in Knox Warranty Void? If not, its just something else. Custom status on phone may have caused some issues for your work.
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blulite said:
Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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This! Rooting won't trip the KNOX counter, but Super SU freezes it (see below).
DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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When Super SU is installed, you're asked to freeze KNOX. To me, that means any applications that require it won't work...unless you do a full factory restore. The hardware flag should not be tripped by anything you can do on the phone currently, unless you have a Dev Edition.

So this isn't my first time rooting however I came from the S3 which did not have KNOX. So excuse any ignorance.
I rooted the S5, disabled KNOX with SuperSU (and received confirmation it was disabled) and continued to play with the phone at the root level. After playing with it (a lot), I decided to check KNOX status in ODIN and it read REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): ON.
I reset my phone and had to provide my samsung account login to reactivate the phone after wipe. I wiped it a few different ways including using KIES to do a firmware reload. The only way I had not tried was to reactivate the phone (after samsung login) and do a wipe phone reset through the settings menu.
The only way I was able to get the REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): to read OFF was after that method.
System status also read Custom. I have a feeling it was Triangle Away that triggered KNOX.
I have since wiped, it kept root surprisingly, and reloaded everything except Triangle Away with no issues.
Hope this is written as logical as it sounds in my head.

Longcat14 said:
True... I dunno WHAT happened.
So phone info is showing 0x1 in Knox Warranty Void? If not, its just something else. Custom status on phone may have caused some issues for your work.
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Nah it's at 0x0...you're probably on about custom status.

mmartenn said:
So this isn't my first time rooting however I came from the S3 which did not have KNOX. So excuse any ignorance.
I rooted the S5, disabled KNOX with SuperSU (and received confirmation it was disabled) and continued to play with the phone at the root level. After playing with it (a lot), I decided to check KNOX status in ODIN and it read REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): ON.
I reset my phone and had to provide my samsung account login to reactivate the phone after wipe. I wiped it a few different ways including using KIES to do a firmware reload. The only way I had not tried was to reactivate the phone (after samsung login) and do a wipe phone reset through the settings menu.
The only way I was able to get the REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): to read OFF was after that method.
System status also read Custom. I have a feeling it was Triangle Away that triggered KNOX.
I have since wiped, it kept root surprisingly, and reloaded everything except Triangle Away with no issues.
Hope this is written as logical as it sounds in my head.
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You managed to get past the REACTIVATION LOCK? That's most likely what set Knoxs warranty flag (not 100% though).
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Nah it's at 0x0...you're probably on about custom status.
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Yup. My phone does custom status randomly, sometimes it'll reboot and show official, sometimes it'll show custom. Dunno why, but I can't say I care.

DreFigs said:
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
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You have to uninstall Good and load the Good root check disabler module for Xposed before reinstalling it. Otherwise it detects root.
Has nothing to do with Knox.

I use "hide my root" from the play store for when I do not need root to hide root from the apps that check for it that won't work if you you're rooted, works great, then when you need to do some work that needs root open the app unhide root tinker away until you need to hide root from one of those pesky apps, then hide it!

[Q] How to hide root and etc.

I have a warranty, how i can clear my phone from custom rom count, root etc. I've heard about 'Triangle Away', but how can i launch it from "bootloop nexus"? Is there another way?

I have a feeling you're well on your way to "bootloop nexus".

What are you trying to do exactly?? You want to get back to full stock to claim warranty??
- Sent from an IceCold Hammerhead!

There is no flash counter. There is only a tamper flag for when the bootloader is unlocked, read the stickied threads in General and there's a method to reset that.
Google doesn't care if you have any custom firmware/unlocked bootloader/"root" anyways, they'll still honor the warranty, as long as it's a hardware manufacturing fault and not something that came about because of anything you did to it software-wise.

cwclasses said:
I have a warranty, how i can clear my phone from custom rom count, root etc. I've heard about 'Triangle Away', but how can i launch it from "bootloop nexus"? Is there another way?
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Triangle Away if for Samsung devices that have a Yellow warning triangle after rooting... With a Nexus device you won't have this.
Read this thread for returning to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701

brichardson1991 said:
Triangle Away if for Samsung devices that have a Yellow warning triangle after rooting... With a Nexus device you won't have this.
Read this thread for returning to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701
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thx for reply, but my emmc is dead...so i can't do this ;(
As I understand, only Samsung devices can be traced for root and custom ROMs?
With a Nexus device you won't have this.
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It's about a Yellow Triangle, isn't it? Or you did you mean an inability to hide it from warranty service?
p.s. sorry for my english....

DO NOT use Triangle Away, it is only for Samsung devices. Nexus devices do not have a flash counter, so running Triangle Away serves no purpose and may in fact further damage your device.

Rooted then restore to stock, will samsung pay still work?

I have a S7 still with stock ROM. I want to root it to get rid of some bloatware completely. I know I will lose Samsung Pay after root. But my concern is, will I get Samsung Pay back if I do an ODIN stock ROM restore? I read some post that I will get it back. But others say if I root and violate KNOX inside the phone, I will never get Samsung pay back.
Can people here confirm please?

Nope, KNOX is permanently tripped if you root, which disabled Samsung Pay and other things

ctzw said:
I have a S7 still with stock ROM. I want to root it to get rid of some bloatware completely. I know I will lose Samsung Pay after root. But my concern is, will I get Samsung Pay back if I do an ODIN stock ROM restore? I read some post that I will get it back. But others say if I root and violate KNOX inside the phone, I will never get Samsung pay back.
Can people here confirm please?
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*Detection* said:
Nope, KNOX is permanently tripped if you root, which disabled Samsung Pay and other things
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+1 with quote above , once you trip knox , no more samsung pay, android pay is possible if you flash again a stock firmware

*Detection* said:
Nope, KNOX is permanently tripped if you root, which disabled Samsung Pay and other things
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That socks. I wonder why this stupidity.
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Thanks for above replies. One more question: what is the best way of restoring my phone back to stock? My phone is still not rooted. Does flashing with ODIN to stock break KNOX? I want to restore to stock because I want to give my phone to a friend. I don't want any personal information remaining in the phone.

ctzw said:
Thanks for above replies. One more question: what is the best way of restoring my phone back to stock? My phone is still not rooted. Does flashing with ODIN to stock break KNOX? I want to restore to stock because I want to give my phone to a friend. I don't want any personal information remaining in the phone.
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If you are rooted then knox is already tripped.
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ctzw said:
Thanks for above replies. One more question: what is the best way of restoring my phone back to stock? My phone is still not rooted. Does flashing with ODIN to stock break KNOX? I want to restore to stock because I want to give my phone to a friend. I don't want any personal information remaining in the phone.
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takerhbk said:
If you are rooted then knox is already tripped.
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Just factory reset from settings