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Just a question, is root still possible after the OTA?
blud7 said:
Just a question, is root still possible after the OTA?
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Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.
HG! said:
Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.
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Thanks, i have triangle away so I can live with that!
HG! said:
Yup. use the CWM method.
it'll up your flash count.
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What does upping the flash count do?
smaw51 said:
What does upping the flash count do?
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As I understand it, it is just a counter. But anyone with a bit of a brain could /
would know that you had flashed / rooted your tablet. The main concern most
people have is in returning the tablet, where the manufacturer or dealer would
know that you flashed software and this MAY void your warranty.
blud7 said:
As I understand it, it is just a counter. But anyone with a bit of a brain could /
would know that you had flashed / rooted your tablet. The main concern most
people have is in returning the tablet, where the manufacturer or dealer would
know that you flashed software and this MAY void your warranty.
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you understand correctly, and yes, Triangle Away resets that counter. However it's also worth mentioning that with recent Samsung devices, even if you reset the counter the device will still be marked as MODIFIED. Which makes it pretty much silly to use anyways. You basically need to be unrooted for that to go away in the case you need to claim warranty... But then there's probably something wrong with the tablet that would prevent one from resetting that if you're looking at the warranty. Have a 0 counter all you want, if they find superuser/SuperSU and some root apps... then you're caught
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
anthraxx90 said:
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
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You have to unlock the bootloader to root. You can relock it afterwards if you want to
Edit, day 2 of 7 with the internet working
anthraxx90 said:
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
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You can't root without unlocking the bootloader. If you ever have to exchange it under warranty, you can reset the tamper flag and relock the bootloader, they'll be none the wiser.
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I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
anthraxx90 said:
I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
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If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
jd1639 said:
If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
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And if i brick it? My last bricked device was not recognized in anyway by any pc, no adb, no fastboot, just api, but can't fix it.
(and I have not broken it doing stupid things, just installed clockworkmod app from playstore and flash cwm for my device, what's result? after some day i read that cwm dev, put the wrong files in tf300t section, and the app flashed tf101 files)
anthraxx90 said:
I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
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No they do not.
Stupid, was using ROM manager to begin with.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Stupid, was using ROM manager to begin with.
good day.
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i think stupid is who publish an application without notifying error that brick and make unusefull a device bought for 700€
regardless from the user experience.
Plz next answers , follow the question, not personal comment.
jd1639 said:
Edit, day 2 of 7 with the internet working
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LOL! (Yes, I got the reference)
anthraxx90 said:
i think stupid is who publish an application without notifying error that brick and make unusefull a device bought for 700€
regardless from the user experience.
Plz next answers , follow the question, not personal comment.
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if you think modifying your device keeps you safe from bricking it, you need to stop rooting your phone and stick to stock.
people make mistakes and your blind following makes you look ignorant and uninformed.
Zepius said:
if you think modifying your device keeps you safe from bricking it, you need to stop rooting your phone and stick to stock.
people make mistakes and your blind following makes you look ignorant and uninformed.
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really, I am in the modding since I bought the first galaxy young, and all the developers warn worthy of respect and do not take responsibility for damage to devices, if we do not take resposability we do not public on play google, on google play store a child may install and tap 2 buttons, that is how I publish a tread "Root your galaxy Note 2," and i put inside the kernel of Commodore64, before you speak of ignorance think of ignorance with which you answered without even knowing what we're talking.
anthraxx90 said:
really, I am in the modding since I bought the first galaxy young, and all the developers warn worthy of respect and do not take responsibility for damage to devices, if we do not take resposability we do not public on play google, on google play store a child may install and tap 2 buttons, that is how I publish a tread "Root your galaxy Note 2," and i put inside the kernel of Commodore64, before you speak of ignorance think of ignorance with which you answered without even knowing what we're talking.
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I read your post twice and still can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say - you published a thread about rooting your note 2 (by installing and tapping 2 buttons on google play), and put the thread inside the kernel of commodore64? wut?
Your original question was "Can you root without unlocking bootloader" - the answer, as several folks posted (and was mentioned in earlier searchable threads as well) was "No"
Did that answer your question? Or do you have a follow up question? - Not trying to sound rude - just trying to understand if your question has been answered or not.
jd1639 said:
If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
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...but not before resetting the TAMPER FLAG.
anthraxx90 said:
And if i brick it? My last bricked device was not recognized in anyway by any pc, no adb, no fastboot, just api, but can't fix it.
(and I have not broken it doing stupid things, just installed clockworkmod app from playstore and flash cwm for my device, what's result? after some day i read that cwm dev, put the wrong files in tf300t section, and the app flashed tf101 files)
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If you brick a device, it's on you. Why would they replace a device that was damaged by your tampering with it?
BirchBarlow said:
...but not before resetting the TAMPER FLAG.
If you brick a device, it's on you. Why would they replace a device that was damaged by your tampering with it?
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Perfect, this man understand what i want to know.
"the note 2 root and commodore, was an example, i was talking about rom manager with tf101 file instead of tf300 when i was installing cwm (for this i lost my tf300, cause hardbricked), and someone tell me that it's my error lol, for this i say:"now i publish an app on google play store that promise u to give root to your note 2 or any other smartphone, and instead of root it flash on your device the commodore64 kernel, and this make ur device broken forever"
My english is not good, but the sense is clear -.-
Close please, BirchBarlow give me all correct answer
After rooting, using SuperSU to disable KNOX, I was playing around. Editing, deleting, freezing, etc, etc... Well I triggered KNOX somehow and had to log into my Samsung account to reset my phone each time.
Well, come to find out, after resetting my phone in recovery and then resetting my phone through setting, KNOX is reset back to 0x0.
FYI
Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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blulite said:
Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
he mustve done somethin else.. root hasnt tripped knox for n e one yet.. mustve done somethin else lol
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DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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I would be curious to see if you ODIN'd back without root to see if you could use your phone again for work.
DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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Longcat14 said:
Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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only thing i could think of is it disabled knox but op clearly doesnt know what hes talking sbout because it wouldnt trip his knox warranty as hes suggesting.. plus hes been mia now so this thread might as well die lol
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Longcat14 said:
Phone info on the Play Store will tell you if the Knox Warranty Flag is 0x0 or 0x1.
I find it weird that you somehow set Knox's Warranty Flag with root.... No-ones done that yet AFAIK. What did you do exactly?
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Been waiting for root like everyone else. Read about towelroot >>> navigated to towelroot.com click on the lambda >>> dl using es downloader and install >>> make it ra1n or something :crying: >>> profit. Good no good.
I have a bad memory though and am wondering if there was an option to trip Knox or not, if there was I very well could have decided to trip it thinking I don't want half ass root issues....any way thought of resetting w/Odin but The Man will not own me!
elliwigy said:
only thing i could think of is it disabled knox but op clearly doesnt know what hes talking sbout because it wouldnt trip his knox warranty as hes suggesting.. plus hes been mia now so this thread might as well die lol
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True... I dunno WHAT happened.
DreFigs said:
Been waiting for root like everyone else. Read about towelroot >>> navigated to towelroot.com click on the lambda >>> dl using es downloader and install >>> make it ra1n or something :crying: >>> profit. Good no good.
I have a bad memory though and am wondering if there was an option to trip Knox or not, if there was I very well could have decided to trip it thinking I don't want half ass root issues....any way thought of resetting w/Odin but The Man will not own me!
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So phone info is showing 0x1 in Knox Warranty Void? If not, its just something else. Custom status on phone may have caused some issues for your work.
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blulite said:
Wait a minute. Are you sure you had triggered bootloader level knox to 0x1, and reseting turned it back to zero? The towelroot and supersu should not trigger the Knox flag. Loading a recovery would do that. Are you sure you triggered knox, or just wiped it and reloaded the knox system?
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This! Rooting won't trip the KNOX counter, but Super SU freezes it (see below).
DreFigs said:
How would you verify whether knox has been reloaded?
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
Hoping to get an unlocked BL and some custom roms etc. eventually.
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When Super SU is installed, you're asked to freeze KNOX. To me, that means any applications that require it won't work...unless you do a full factory restore. The hardware flag should not be tripped by anything you can do on the phone currently, unless you have a Dev Edition.
So this isn't my first time rooting however I came from the S3 which did not have KNOX. So excuse any ignorance.
I rooted the S5, disabled KNOX with SuperSU (and received confirmation it was disabled) and continued to play with the phone at the root level. After playing with it (a lot), I decided to check KNOX status in ODIN and it read REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): ON.
I reset my phone and had to provide my samsung account login to reactivate the phone after wipe. I wiped it a few different ways including using KIES to do a firmware reload. The only way I had not tried was to reactivate the phone (after samsung login) and do a wipe phone reset through the settings menu.
The only way I was able to get the REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): to read OFF was after that method.
System status also read Custom. I have a feeling it was Triangle Away that triggered KNOX.
I have since wiped, it kept root surprisingly, and reloaded everything except Triangle Away with no issues.
Hope this is written as logical as it sounds in my head.
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True... I dunno WHAT happened.
So phone info is showing 0x1 in Knox Warranty Void? If not, its just something else. Custom status on phone may have caused some issues for your work.
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Nah it's at 0x0...you're probably on about custom status.
mmartenn said:
So this isn't my first time rooting however I came from the S3 which did not have KNOX. So excuse any ignorance.
I rooted the S5, disabled KNOX with SuperSU (and received confirmation it was disabled) and continued to play with the phone at the root level. After playing with it (a lot), I decided to check KNOX status in ODIN and it read REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): ON.
I reset my phone and had to provide my samsung account login to reactivate the phone after wipe. I wiped it a few different ways including using KIES to do a firmware reload. The only way I had not tried was to reactivate the phone (after samsung login) and do a wipe phone reset through the settings menu.
The only way I was able to get the REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): to read OFF was after that method.
System status also read Custom. I have a feeling it was Triangle Away that triggered KNOX.
I have since wiped, it kept root surprisingly, and reloaded everything except Triangle Away with no issues.
Hope this is written as logical as it sounds in my head.
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You managed to get past the REACTIVATION LOCK? That's most likely what set Knoxs warranty flag (not 100% though).
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Nah it's at 0x0...you're probably on about custom status.
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Yup. My phone does custom status randomly, sometimes it'll reboot and show official, sometimes it'll show custom. Dunno why, but I can't say I care.
DreFigs said:
I had been using my s5 for work, we use Good Mobile. I rooted, thinking knox would be restored per the post, but I can no longer use my phone for work, as root tripped whatever security was in place, making my phone out of policy at work. No biggie, just have to use my tab now instead.
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You have to uninstall Good and load the Good root check disabler module for Xposed before reinstalling it. Otherwise it detects root.
Has nothing to do with Knox.
I use "hide my root" from the play store for when I do not need root to hide root from the apps that check for it that won't work if you you're rooted, works great, then when you need to do some work that needs root open the app unhide root tinker away until you need to hide root from one of those pesky apps, then hide it!
Hello, I have rooted my galaxy s6 international version and the only thing I am using is some CSC (?) features like alphabetacilly sorting the app drawer, adblocker and whatsmapp. Actually, I kind of regret it, I want back my factory galaxy s6, warranty, clean rom, is there any way to get like a new device? Installing the stock rom I had will fix it?
Now I see more problems with the s6 like fingerprint sensor isn't working, I'm so afraid without the warranty, don't you?
The burned eFuse-Chip is in fact a hardware damage caused by rooting from the user --> no more warranty by Samsung! You can check that in several reports online, in magazins and even at Samsung
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Saw this in the other thread located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/penalties-flashing-rooting-t3097277
So yeah you can never restore original, never...You can only flash stock firmware.
I did root my Galaxy S6, at first I was very disapointed that I did that, but now I'm thinking that sooner or later I would still have done the same thing, because without root your phone is kind of limited to some things, root gives you more power over the phone so you can control it how you like.
Edit: Fingerprint scanner works fine for me, for you it's probably software related issue, that could be solved by flashing other firmwares.
Giancarlo456 said:
Saw this in the other thread located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/penalties-flashing-rooting-t3097277
So yeah you can never restore original, never...You can only flash stock firmware.
I did root my Galaxy S6, at first I was very disapointed that I did that, but now I'm thinking that sooner or later I would still have done the same thing, because without root your phone is kind of limited to some things, root gives you more power over the phone so you can control it how you like.
Edit: Fingerprint scanner works fine for me, for you it's probably software related issue, that could be solved by flashing other firmwares.
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Im curious if thats the same case with rooting with PingPong root. It doesnt trigger KNOX so can it also mean that the efuse doesnt get triggered?
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Im curious if thats the same case with rooting with PingPong root. It doesnt trigger KNOX so can it also mean that the efuse doesnt get triggered?
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I'm not sure, but it may save the Efuse-chip by rooting with PingPong. It's a shame that I didn't knew about it before rooting...
Giancarlo456 said:
I'm not sure, but it may save the Efuse-chip by rooting with PingPong. It's a shame that I didn't knew about it before rooting...
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Well we can hope that it doesn't! Yeah mate it sucks ive been wanting to root ever since the SGS6 released but been torned incase I want to return to completly stock so this is a nice choice. But as you said yourself, you would have eventually rooted sooner or later and I don't think you will miss out on anything important
JusTeN_ said:
Hello, I have rooted my galaxy s6 international version and the only thing I am using is some CSC (?) features like alphabetacilly sorting the app drawer, adblocker and whatsmapp. Actually, I kind of regret it, I want back my factory galaxy s6, warranty, clean rom, is there any way to get like a new device? Installing the stock rom I had will fix it?
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Install Samsung Smart Switch and use it to make a backup of your things and then use the recovery option in the program. It will download the right firmware for you and re-install your phone to fabric settings.
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Install Samsung Smart Switch and use it to make a backup of your things and then use the recovery option in the program. It will download the right firmware for you and re-install your phone to fabric settings.
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Thx everyone.. really disappointed of rooting, at least I wish I could restore it and root with ping-pong root.
And Zozo,
Its just to transfer files from my previous device to my current device. .
JusTeN_ said:
Thx everyone.. really disappointed of rooting, at least I wish I could restore it and root with ping-pong root.
And Zozo,
Its just to transfer files from my previous device to my current device. .
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If you press the "More" button up to the right there's an option called "Emergency software recovery initialisation". There you can re-install your whole phone to completely factory settings
It will not untrip your KNOX if you rooted the phone in any other way than with PingPong Root, that is not possible for the time being.
ZoZo- said:
If you press the "More" button up to the right there's an option called "Emergency software recovery initialisation". There you can re-install your whole phone to completely factory settings
It will not untrip your KNOX if you rooted the phone in any other way than with PingPong Root, that is not possible for the time being.
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Actually, I don't have the More button, nevermind I will just keep it this way, not a big deal I hope,thx.
Can any one tell me that how to revert Knox warranty 0×0 .I have rooted via Odin method but now I want to revert stock and Knox also 0×0.
Shabajnooraalam said:
Can any one tell me that how to revert Knox warranty 0×0 .I have rooted via Odin method but now I want to revert stock and Knox also 0×0.
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It's impossible.
Knox void can be revert to 0 and flash counter also then Knox void warranty why not........
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Knox void can be revert to 0 and flash counter also then Knox void warranty why not........
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You tell us
As far as I'm aware, there is no known way to reset the knox counter.
That said, there is an app on the Play Store that claims it can do it called TriangleAway. They make no guarantees and I'm not sure I can trust them, since I haven't heard about it anywhere else.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
It seems risky to me, not worth it IMO
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As far as I'm aware, there is no known way to reset the knox counter.
That said, there is an app on the Play Store that claims it can do it called TriangleAway. They make no guarantees and I'm not sure I can trust them, since I haven't heard about it anywhere else.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
It seems risky to me, not worth it IMO
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Triangle away doesn't reset your Knox to 0. What triangle away does is that reset your flash counter to 0,and also helps you to change your system to normal instead of modified. Chain fire never claimed that Triangle Away reset Knox to zero. He is a very well known developer by people who are flashing Roms for a while.
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Triangle away doesn't reset your Knox to 0. What triangle away does is that reset your flash counter to 0,and also helps you to change your system to normal instead of modified. Chain fire never claimed that Triangle Away reset Knox to zero. He is a very well known developer by people who are flashing Roms for a while.
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+1
As far as I know, Knox counter is triggered by an e-fuse. Once destroyed no way back. Somehow like the old eproms.
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