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I was curious if anyone else is having chopping video performance on a 1080p video? I have 720p videos play fine but 1080p video's stutter every few seconds. Any ideas? Its hard to show off the screen when video playback is poor.
There is no difference between a 720p video and a 1080p video on this phone. The screens not big enough to make a difference. Convert your video to 720p or lower if u want to play it on your phone.
caelestis2 said:
There is no difference between a 720p video and a 1080p video on this phone. The screens not big enough to make a difference. Convert your video to 720p or lower if u want to play it on your phone.
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He is correct. Make sure you convert the video to the proper resolution and format for best performance. No need to make the phone work harder to decode video from a format you will not gain from.
Storing 1080p video would only seem to benefit if you intend to use an external display. Are you using an external adapter(usb to hdmi or analog) for playback?
Thanks for the replies. I knew that this was the case. When testing the video capabilities, I downloaded a bunch of random HD video samples. Some 720p some 1080p. The 1080p seems to work flawlessly if I taskill everything but I shouldn't have to do that. I guess I'll just stick to 720p unless I'm hooking up to a TV.
I downloaded Avatar from the net in .mkv format at 1080p. The video looks very choppy and the audio sounds ok. I also downloaded another version .mkv format at 720p. This one the video looks good but the audio starts ok for the first 10 seconds but then it goes away. I've tried rockplayer and mvideoplayer and nothing seems to work. please help me.
lildoggs said:
I downloaded Avatar from the net in .mkv format at 1080p. The video looks very choppy and the audio sounds ok. I also downloaded another version .mkv format at 720p. This one the video looks good but the audio starts ok for the first 10 seconds but then it goes away. I've tried rockplayer and mvideoplayer and nothing seems to work. please help me.
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use the samsung player that built in. i know for a fact that plays mkv @ 720p
irus said:
use the samsung player that built in. i know for a fact that plays mkv @ 720p
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you mean the video player that comes with the captivate.
Any help please.
Yea, the video player that is stock on the Captivate.
I'm just curious how you got a file that big on your phone. I've never been able to transfer anything bigger than 4GB to my captivate. A 720p or 1080p rip of Avatar both have to be bigger than 4GB.
720p
You will be surprised that a 720p video is less than 2gb in size.
The video player that comes built into the Captivate will play .mkv videos.
When I play a movie, I usually go to "My Files"> folder where I have the movies> and play it from there. It will open the Captivates Video player.
Hope this helps.
-Rixter
How well does this operate on the sensation? How smooth is the playback of 1080p MKVs? Also, can I play this on rockplayer for example or diceplayer and connect it up to my TV and watch it over HDMI?
Thanks.
Really? No-one?
JellyXDA said:
Really? No-one?
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Well I'm not sure if you know this but there are currently no accessories for MHL that can be utilized in the Sensation. Therefore, it can't be connected to a TV yet which explains why nobody is answering your question. Wait for the MHL dongle to come out and I'm sure people will start saying something.
trying to play 720p mkv just on the phone and its dropping alot of frames.
Tried QQ player and rockplayer but still not enough power to decode the movie in software.
May have to convert the file to mp4 to allow the hardware acceleration!
will try over the weekend and let you know
As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
daivik said:
It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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I'll test this and get back to you later. I'm sure I've got a 1080p mkv somewhere on my PC.
I'm pretty sure the Sensation's software isn't optimized. I think when we see some custom ROMs (e.g. Android Revolution by mike1986) we may be able to play MKV's
I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Thanks a lot for testing that out, much appreciated. A lot more useful than the guesstimates made by others in this thread.
My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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your test file is mp4. so rock or stock or any other player works same way.
(using embedded media player module)
if you test MKV/H.264-High/DTS or Flac encoded files, you can find differences.
MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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point is mkv container is not recognised by the sensation default video player, so although the video stream should be played back via hardware decoding it is not.
Most other players that do recognise .mkv files use software decoding, which is fine for AVI (DivX/XviD) or low bitrate h264 files, but at higher bitrates the frames start droping.
Diceplayer is good because after it splits the MKV audio/video streams it recognises that the h264 video stream can be decoded via hardware, this allows much higher bitrates to be played smoother and should consume less battery as the cpu is not thrashing its nuts off.
It may be that in a future software update MKV are supported by the default player, as it is on the SGS2
I wonder if Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod could play 1080p MKV with Diceplayer or similar, on the Sensation. Would be utterly fantastic if they could!
I'd like to see playback on an OC'd sensation/gs2
i think galaxy r has a weak DSP because it records 720p video and doesn't play 1080p videos and i think even 720p playback is limited to [email protected]/4 ref frames.
here is a 720p mp4 avc [email protected] sample for you to try and see if it works in stock player:
https://rapidshare.com/files/1822600111/720p_avc_high_l4_cabac_4_ref_frames.mp4
and here is a 720p mp4 avc [email protected] sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/3012087529/720p_avc_high_4.1_cabac_4_ref_frames.mp4
the samples are only 2 mb, so please try them out in stock player and tell me the result.
thanx in advance
1) Why do you have to use a stock player if you can choose full HW-accelerated: Dice or MX player?
2)I have S2 - I can't really see the difference between 720p and 1080p on such small screen (4'3") and I don't think any human eye would see it
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1) Why do you have to use a stock player if you can choose full HW-accelerated: Dice or MX player?
2)I have S2 - I can't really see the difference between 720p and 1080p on such small screen (4'3") and I don't think any human eye would see it
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stock player also does hw acceleration, and if a dual core phone doesnt play 1080p video, then at least it should have full 720p support
yes but stock player doesn't play all video formats the two players above do.
BTW. these samples are far away from HQ-quality, especially divine enrique is extremely pixelated I don't think it'll make any difficulty for SGR, but let's wait and see.
m.kochan10 said:
yes but stock player doesn't play all video formats the two players above do.
BTW. these samples are far away from HQ-quality, especially divine enrique is extremely pixelated I don't think it'll make any difficulty for SGR, but let's wait and see.
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stock player doesnt play all formats because it does hw decoding only while mx and dice can do both hw and sw decoding which uses cpu and drains battery much faster than hw
and it is not about quality(bit rate), what matters is resolution(720p) and codec settings([email protected] frames)
I tried to play these 2 videos..
stock player was unable to play both the videos..
but. mx player with fast sw decoding played both clips very well...
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pankaj88 said:
I tried to play these 2 videos..
stock player was unable to play both the videos..
but. mx player with fast sw decoding played both clips very well...
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what??? i cant believe it, so i guess max hw decoding support is 720p avc [email protected]/4 frames like this sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2823428502/720p_avc_high_3.1_cabac-4_ref_frames.mp4
and i guess the same goes for galaxy s advance which records 720p and doesn't play 1080p
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what??? i cant believe it, so i guess max hw decoding support is 720p avc [email protected]/4 frames like this sample:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2823428502/720p_avc_high_3.1_cabac-4_ref_frames.mp4
and i guess the same goes for galaxy s advance which records 720p and doesn't play 1080p
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same result for this video too..
stock player unable...
mx player played with fast sw decoding...
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same result for this video too..
stock player unable...
mx player played with fast sw decoding...
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well, this is unbelievable , what about [email protected]/3 frames?
https://rapidshare.com/files/3753950975/720p_avc_high_3.1-3_frames.mp4
hehe... theory faced reality
Vplayer is THE ONLY VIDEO PLAYER that can play full HD .mkv movies flawlessly,
so any other player here is short, Vplayer beats them in raw power hands down
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Vplayer is THE ONLY VIDEO PLAYER that can play full HD .mkv movies flawlessly,
so any other player here is short, Vplayer beats them in raw power hands down
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But its a paid app, mx player gives hw decoding and other stuffs for free
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m.kochan10 said:
hehe... theory faced reality
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yeah--my theory faced the phone s reality
It wasn't that bad, Be brave!
m.kochan10 said:
It wasn't that bad, Be brave!
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what do you mean???????
Nothing, just kidding. Cheers mate
Hey i have tried playin other videos using dice n mx, they wer able to play it but d nly prob is that they were a bit laggy....
Y so ??
Do all of u face d same prob ??
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our R only play 25 fps videos in only mp4 format but u can use other players like VPlayer to play like mkv format files ok
videos format
25fps - 720p
30fps - 1080p
but some times 1080p files are in 25fps so we can play it on our device ....
i xtremly recommanded to u use other players like VPlayer
coz in vpplayer we can play 30fps files but thay are some times little bit laggy
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our R only play 25 fps videos in only mp4 format but u can use other players like VPlayer to play like mkv format files ok
videos format
25fps - 720p
30fps - 1080p
but some times 1080p files are in 25fps so we can play it on our device ....
i xtremly recommanded to u use other players like VPlayer
coz in vpplayer we can play 30fps files but thay are some times little bit laggy
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Hey i tried using vplayer to play a video, its still lags.....
The video is a dvd rip movie and a mkx format (i guess, though not sure abt the format) and apprx 1.7GB. When i tried playing through stock app, it didnt played.
When i tried using mx and dice, they played but a bit laggy.
but when i used xplayer, its more laggy
and upon using hardware decoder in mx,dice its unable to play
is there any solution play such video without any lag on our R ??
vipul12389mehta said:
Hey i tried using vplayer to play a video, its still lags.....
The video is a dvd rip movie and a mkx format (i guess, though not sure abt the format) and apprx 1.7GB. When i tried playing through stock app, it didnt played.
When i tried using mx and dice, they played but a bit laggy.
but when i used xplayer, its more laggy
and upon using hardware decoder in mx,dice its unable to play
is there any solution play such video without any lag on our R ??
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this phone doesn't play anything in stock player(hardware decoding) above 720p [email protected]/3 ref frames, you can download media info to know the specs of the videos you want to play:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download
i guess if you want play anything above that smoothly using CPU( software decoding), you should use NEON optimized codecs for the player you installed like mx neon codecs from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.ffmpeg.v7_neon&feature=more_from_developer
but, you should install mx player first
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
I downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with MX player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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i downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with mx player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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use mx player
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Kot5nik, in my opinion, changing the resolution that android runs is not the proper way to go. Since XZ Premium is a device that supports 4k/HDR i shouldn't have to resort to "adb" to watch a 4k video in another app. Plus, by doing that, battery drain increases a bit, phone dialer app does not work, app switching does not show thumbnails etc.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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FartyParty, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. I took screenshots of both MX and Sony apps and the look identical. Only one difference though. It seems that MX Player doest not utilize HDR. There is a noticeable difference in contrast. You can see the attachments if you want to.
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Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Here is what i found from testing the device for 4K HDR videos
the device can and will play 4K H265 10bit and even HDR videos but there are things that need to be done to play perfectly
first you need to check for the containers to be mkv or mp4
second using sony app will not allow to play surround sound file like dts, ac3, AAC 5.1 or AAC 7.1
third which i think is very odd and stupid from sony is that how such a powerful device can't play mkv with AAC sound track no matter what stereo or surround.
The trick for this to use software where they can switch container without the need for converting the whole file from mkv to mp4.
Hi everyone,
I have to also agree with @Liltman and say that the MX Player does play video content in 4k however there is a very noticeable difference between the stock Sony album player and the MX player.
Sadly the Sony video player doesn't support truehd aac files so the video will play flawlessly without the sound :crying:
The MX Player on the other hand WILL play the sound but the quality of the video seems to take a small hit as it's not as vibrant as the Sony album player. This is because MX Player supports 4k but not HDR
I hope that Sony added codecs to make TrueHD sound files compatible with the Sony gallery player on Oreo but I am not very confident about that.
I would appreciate it if someone can find a way around this annoying issue. What software is @HYPER-RX referring to?
Thanks!
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
MX Player definitely does support HDR. You can tell because in HDR videos, if you try taking a screenshot, the screenshot will simply come out as black, whereas in SDR videos, you'll get a normal screenshot.
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Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
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Hi I just tried VLC and you was spot on. I can see that it actually does support HDR however I'm still having audio issues with the sound. Especially the HEVC Atmos 7.1. Do I need to download a codec pack or something?
It's a shame because the video quality is incredible!
Working perfectly
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
nirai06 said:
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
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Thanks was this on Oreo? And the sound file was it 5.1 or 7.1?