I've been researching for an external battery as of late because I am about to travel overseas to Germany. Looking for a solution to last 18 hrs a day with my Samsung Galaxy S6.
Currently my average is 10% per Hour with low to medium use with Stock Touchwiz.
To my surprise, there was very low support for "Adaptive Fast Charging" technology...
I haven't found a product that directly says Yes this works with Adaptive Fast Charging from Samsung.
I've only found vague products like this:
Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank Fast Charger by basacc (from Amazon)
This accepts Qualcomm's QuickCharge 2.0 Technology... and since the S6 doesn't use Qualcomm CPU I imagine there maybe compatibility issues?
In short, does anyone know of any external battery that can work with Samsung Adapative Fast Charging?
Any Quick Charge 2.0 charger will fast charge the S6 as "Adaptive Fast Charging" is based off Qualcomm's "Quick Charge 2.0".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-exynos-faster-charging-tech-vs-t3048895
Try Zerolemon battery cases.
http://zerolemon.com/
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Use the Galaxy Tab OEM car charger from Samsung. Supposedly it has a TRUE 2000mAh charge rate which is what the S4 stock wall-charger puts out and gives the FAST charge.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DBIKOK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AL5WIY0NIP2WE
This charger comes with the weird Galaxy Tab charging cable. BUT,,, the charger itself can handle any USB-to-MicroUSB cable. So you can put an S4 charging cable in there and as long as it's high quality and short length, it won't affect charging rate.
I'm buying this tomorrow and should know by Wednesday if it really does 2000mAh, but I'm about 99% sure it will based on what I've researched so far.
I'm using exactly this TAB car-charger for my S4. Works perfectly.
I was using Sygic navigation yesterday about 3h and the charger was still strong enough to charge the phone.
with a non removable battery, im hoping the s7 quickcharge module can do fast bulk charges, from 10% to 80% or something like that, in 30mins. I know quickcharge has stats, just seeing if others have real world examples.
anyone timed the wireless qi charge yet? what your times or experience? heat issues?
I wonder if I should get a QC 2.0 portable powerbank then...
Will be getting a QC 2.0 powerbank myself. Wish I could find one under 8000mah. Most seem to be 12000+.
I wouldn't expect more than 50% in 30 min .
I just got my S7 Edge. Got like 30% in 22min. So like 40-45% in 30min
hmmm would have been nice to get 80% in 30, maybe oppo will sell their Vooc charging tech for the note 6.
I recently buy third party Wireless charger Baseus 10W, but I have problem with it. When I connect it to original Note 9 Charger it won't charge in Fast mode only standard. I little research and find thet older samsung chargers (Galaxy S7...) are work without problem with Fast Wireless Charging.
Note 9 use Charger EP-TA20EBE, if you want to use third party Wireless Chargers use EP-TA20EWE.
I made short video about Baseus Wireless Charger its cheap and very good, its have Fast Charging mod. If you are interested you can check video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlH7uEnG-V4
RavPower B0792VBPLV
Bought this one a week ago; https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0792VBPLV/
It's perfect. Charges really fast, includes its own 24W plugged power-supply. Came highly recommended by a friend who also has this exact same model ravpower and a note 8. Loving it so far.
jult said:
Bought this one a week ago; https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0792VBPLV/
It's perfect. Charges really fast, includes its own 24W plugged power-supply. Came highly recommended by a friend who also has this exact same model ravpower and a note 8. Loving it so far.
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How long do you mean by "really fast"? I have an ADATA CW0100 pad and it won't consistently fast-charge with the Note 9's power brick but works fine with my Sony UCH10 QC.20 charger. It still takes about 3 hours to reach maximum capacity.
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How long do you mean by "really fast"? I have an ADATA CW0100 pad and it won't consistently fast-charge with the Note 9's power brick but works fine with my Sony UCH10 QC.20 charger. It still takes about 3 hours to reach maximum capacity.
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I don't own an ADATA pad, so how should I know?
My Note 9 (4023 mAh estimated battery capacity, according to AccuBattery Pro) on average charges to 54% in less than an hour. I consider that fast. By the way, depending on the type battery, but most current batteries don't benefit from charging to the full 100%. With AccuBattery you can find out the sweet spot for your device's battery life, for mine that was around 56%, so I rarely charge it higher than that.
Hey guys, as we all saw, the new note 20 charging specs isn't as good as the old one coming up to 25W rather than 45W.
But as for my past experience those on-paper specs aren't exact accurate and sure never fully explained.
unfortunately I don't own note 20 (yet?), so I can't share my highly detailed tests that I usually do, but those of you who own it and can share any data of test please write it down here.
Try to measure any of the following details:
* what charger(s) are you using? (Name / output powers / Power delivery version / etc... picture of the specs on it will be sufficient)
* what voltage and ampere (or watt) are being used (hold it few seconds to let it settle, it also should vary on the current starting point battery level, and wether screen is on/ off) (the more details you bring, the better)
* if you got no power meter than charging times could also be usefull (0->30, 0->50, 10->20, etc..)
after we get some tests here I'll sum it all up in a google sheets (like these: example1, example2, example3)
and after that we can get some recommendation of what 3rd party chargers are best to buy
If you are like me and like plugging a charger in every corner you probably want something good, with high speeds, and original is always more expensive than 3rd party ones so why not knowing the specs first.
Also we might find out that some charger can charge even faster than the original 25W one (what about 30W,45W,65W PD 3.0 chargers? what about PD 2.0? 1.0? etc..)
Your contribute will be highly appreciated!
I have an N9860 from Hong Kong. Normally I am happy to slow charge and have my charge settings set that way. Today, as an experiment for this discussion I enabled fast charging and super fast charging and connected to a 60W PD/QC4+ charger via a USB-C monitor.. The charger is branded Klearlook and was bought from Amazon in the UK a couple of years ago.
The phone is receiving/demanding only 15W at 9.2V, 1.6A. That is from 13% to 44%.
I removed the monitor in case it was interfering with handshaking protocols and it has had no impact on remaining time to full charge (now 58 minutes remaining at 46%.
Using the same charger I disconnected the PD cord and switched to an 18W USB-A port without a monitor. No change to remaining time to full charge.
So I'm getting fast charging, but not super fast charging from my combination charger - a charger that will happily run my Dell XPS 13 laptop from the PD port.
So then I unboxed the supplied charger and cord, previously unused. With the monitor attached I'm seeing 18W - 9V at 2A - and the phone says super fast charging, briefly, with the screen off and only the charging information displayed.
I'll just carry on as normal with my slow charging to 80% (thanks Accubattery) since that suits my needs perfectly well and should hopefully minimise battery degradation over time.
Thank you very much for that highly detailed measurement and review!
Results are pretty disappointing, your charger should have be good scenario
Hopefully (but doubt it) maybe others would find better results
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I have an N9860 from Hong Kong. Normally I am happy to slow charge and have my charge settings set that way. Today, as an experiment for this discussion I enabled fast charging and super fast charging and connected to a 60W PD/QC4+ charger via a USB-C monitor.. The charger is branded Klearlook and was bought from Amazon in the UK a couple of years ago.
The phone is receiving/demanding only 15W at 9.2V, 1.6A. That is from 13% to 44%.
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The fact that maybe your PD QC4+ does not support PPS (the only way to enable 25W charging on Note 20 ultra or 45W on Note 10 plus).
Confirm that your charger does support PD with PPS protocol.
Yes, it's a bit annoying (to say the least) that note 20 is slower (downgrade) compared to Note 10 in terms of charging speed.
Regards.
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I have no idea about PPS - never heard of it until now. The charger is no longer available from Amazon. I bought it in August 2018. Maybe it predates PPS. Anyway, a Google search found what appears to be the same product here....
https://www.desertcart.com.kw/produ...-charging-station-with-type-c-to-type-c-cable
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I have no idea about PPS - never heard of it until now. The charger is no longer available from Amazon. I bought it in August 2018. Maybe it predates PPS. Anyway, a Google search found what appears to be the same product here....
https://www.desertcart.com.kw/produ...-charging-station-with-type-c-to-type-c-cable
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Yeah, no mention of PPS anywhere, only AFC on the 3 non-USBC ports (limited to 18W).
And you are right Note 10 and S20 (the ones using PPS - 25/45W are 2019 phones), so the power supply being a 2018 product may lack the latest protocols.
I have a Note 9 (2018 product) and no ”Super fast charge“...
I had the same problem (bought a 45W car charger), just to find out it lacked PPS protocol, so no 25W or 45W charging speeds. I Had to return it, and carefully search for an updated version (more expensive) supporting it.
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I have several chargers I use, but without any real testing, it feels like my 45w charger from Samsung is the best experience. I attached my charging log screen shots. 1%-100% in 1hr 13min. I get the super charging icon through the entire charge. I will try the same test with the 25w charger and see if there is any difference. It feels like it charges just as fast as my previous note 10+ 5g, which is why I got this charging block in the first place.
So... Phone is supposed to charge at 45W but, from what I've read, this is not really true...
I do not have the original 45W Samsung charger but a 3rd party multiport 90W charger, with 2 PD usb C and one A port.
Till yesterday I was using a standard usb C to C cable and phone would display "fast charging" with an estimate of 1h from 15% to 100%. Not really a good performance I'd say. Today I bought a certified 100W cable with a display showing charging speed (usb C to C). With this cable two things change: phone displays "fast charging 2.0" and charging speed has slightly improved: less than 1h from 12% to 100%. Still not fast enough for a 45W charging... And as a metter of fact after 5 minutes the display on the cable stops at 28W...
This matches with lots of articles that complain for the same problem...
I also have a Xiaomi 12 Pro with dedicated 120W charger + dedicated usb C to A cable (charger has A). I'm saying dedicated, because with any other cable (standard usb C to A or even the above 100W usb C to C with adapter) the Xiaomi displays "turbo charging" while with original dedicated Xiaomi cable it displays "120W max" and is indeed blazing fast: 15 min for a full charge!!!
What is strange is that if I use the Xiaomi 120W charger with dedicated cable on the s22 ultra, phone displays only "fast charging" without the "2.0".
Now... I'm not trying to compare charging speed of s22 ultra to 12 Pro: Xiaomi can achieve such a speed because the phones have two separated batteries that charge simultaneously, thanks to a power splitter that takes the 120W input and splits it into two 60W, one for each battery.
What I'd like to know is what's going on with the s22 ultra. I understand that a basic cable is not enough to deliver 45W, reason why I bought a better cable, yet I was expecting a big improvement, while it improved charging speed of less than 10 minutes. And as a matter of fact I've never seen 45W on the cable display. Maybe I need an original Samsung 45W charger instead of a 3rd party one?
Search the forum, there is a few topics regarding 45w charging... I have a 65w charger and 5a cable and the charger has all the necessary properties/charging formats needed to fast charge 2.0 the samsung, but it doesn't. i don't even get the fast charge 2.0 notification....In the end the difference between the 25w and 45w is very slim....will be a waste of money to purchase the 45w samsung charger....check the other discussion.....my charger takes basically an hour from 10-100%...it's good enough for now
Well good enough if not compared to the blazing fast xiaomi's 120w charge
Most of the time, it's only several minutes charging time difference when I have a "Super fast charging" charger or a "Super fast charging 2.0" charger connected. 45W charging seems to be over hyped by Samsung and it's not using full power to charge all the time.
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
buddy66 said:
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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2 cells is exactly what Xiaomi does
Reg Samsung, that's my point: they indeed lie, it's not a 45W phone. Full stop.
I have two Super Fast Samsung 25 watt chargers. One for my S22U and One for my Tab S7+ and both can charge in under an hour. 45 watt chargeers just wasting your money, and extra wear on the battery for a tiny bit of improvement. Not worth it to me.