Hello,
I am a new Android use, but I have some knowledge and experience with computers (wintel platform mainly).
The Android tablet that I own was given to me as a present, at the beginning of this year (I did not choose it). It's technical characteristics can be seen in the pictures contained in the attached zip file.
My problem is the following: the partitioning of its built-in storage (which I think is 16GB), for reasons unknown to me, is such that the "internal storage" of 1GB (almost) very quickly becomes full from the installed apps that soon these apps cannot even be updated. Most of them cannot be moved to what is referred to as "USB storage" or to the external SD storage.
I would be grateful if somebody would tell me how to re-install the system with e;ither one partition (whatever remains of the 16GB after the OS and other system s/w is installed) or, if the presence of an "internal storage" partition and a "USB storage" partition is "obligatory", then I would like the "USB storage" to be the smaller one (the minimum "required"). Any "data" (music, videos, photos) I will put in the external SD storage.
If the solution that will be proposed requires the installation of a ROM different from the one supplied by the OEM of the tablet, which in turn will mean that I loose whatevet warranty I have, that's OK with me.
Thank you to anybody who will take the time to read this and offer a suggestion for the solution of my problem.
George (geokats56)
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Android uses many different partitions to operate properly. You really don't want to be messing with them. Unless you really,really,really know what you're doing you will brick your device and make it inoperable. You also won't gain much in usable space. So, while 16 gigs isn't that big, I'd learn to live with it.
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Hi jd1639,
Thank you for taking the time to read my post and respond.
Actually, I am not complaining for the 16GB, which is probably adequate for the purposes that I intend to use the tablet for. I am complaining about the fact that the manufacturer saw fit to allow only 1GB (of the 16, minus the approx. 3 that the "system" consumes) for the partition where everything seems to want to work in, mainly the applications that are downloaded from Google Play store. After a very little while, this partition becomes full, to the point where the already installed apps can't update themselves, when the OS finds out there is an update available and "prompts" the user to proceed with the update.
I most ecrtainly don't want to brick the tablet, and because I am not an experienced Android user (as I already mentioned in my original post) I am asking for guidance.
Best regards,
George (geokats56)
I really don't recommend you mess with the partitions. But see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234515. Read it very carefully and make sure you understand what you're doing first. If you have any doubts ask in that thread. The guide is for a specific device. Your partitions will be different. See this also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045 also this, http://www.xda-developers.com/uapm-partition-management/
Thanks!
Thanks again jd1639, for taking the time to send me the info.
Best regards,
George (geokats56)
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Well, today I got my new Atrix 2. Great cell phone so far. It's my first Android, yay!
But here is my problem:
1. It came with a 2gb SD Card, working and everything, but when I take pictures they go directly to the SD... Does anybody know how do I change it so they go to the internal memory?
2. Some applications seem to install on both, the internal memory and the SD (like Skype or Whatsapp). Somebody knows why?
3. Does anybody know how to access the internal memory at all when connecting the phone to the PC?
Thanks a lot for your help!
P.S: Please, forgive my noob-ines and Language.
nahuelarg86 said:
1. It came with a 2gb SD Card, working and everything, but when I take pictures they go directly to the SD... Does anybody know how do I change it so they go to the internal memory?
2. Some applications seem to install on both, the internal memory and the SD (like Skype or Whatsapp). Somebody knows why?
3. Does anybody know how to access the internal memory at all when connecting the phone to the PC?
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1. Can't...internal storage is for apps only
2. Not too sure that's the case....the way you can tell is go to settings/applications/manage applications and click on the "on sdcard" tab, apps will show up here regardless if they are on the sdcard or not so the way to tell if said app is truly installed on the card is to check for a green checkbox on the right hand side next to said app. The box will be there on all of them, but only the one's that have a green check mark are actually installed on the sdcard.
3. Internal storage is for apps only and is not accessible
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1. Can't...internal storage is for apps only
2. Not too sure that's the case....the way you can tell is go to settings/applications/manage applications and click on the "on sdcard" tab, apps will show up here regardless if they are on the sdcard or not so the way to tell if said app is truly installed on the card is to check for a green checkbox on the right hand side next to said app. The box will be there on all of them, but only the one's that have a green check mark are actually installed on the sdcard.
3. Internal storage is for apps only and is not accessible
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Well, thank you so much for your help. I didn't know that about the internal memory, it surprises me.
nahuelarg86 said:
Well, thank you so much for your help. I didn't know that about the internal memory, it surprises me.
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i don't think motorola meant it to be that way honestly, since all the specs released specifically say 8gb internal storage, which in the smartphone world means you can use it for storage. however, this isn't the case.
i think that they have their mtd/partition tables setup wrong and it could be fixed with an update. however, no one knows when an update will be coming and what changes it will bring. i think motorola has placed all their focus on the razr. so we get the shaft.
svtfmook said:
i don't think motorola meant it to be that way honestly, since all the specs released specifically say 8gb internal storage, which in the smartphone world means you can use it for storage. however, this isn't the case.
i think that they have their mtd/partition tables setup wrong and it could be fixed with an update. however, no one knows when an update will be coming and what changes it will bring. i think motorola has placed all their focus on the razr. so we get the shaft.
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Yeah, that's really bad. It's a very capable cell phone, it shouldn't have as many problems as it has (I read a lot about SD card problems, etc) but you are right, they are focusing more on the Razr (as I read in other websites) which is a bummer...
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Yeah, that's really bad. It's a very capable cell phone, it shouldn't have as many problems as it has (I read a lot about SD card problems, etc) but you are right, they are focusing more on the Razr (as I read in other websites) which is a bummer...
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honestly, it doesn't have that many issues. and i think 1 problem is causing multiple issues.
for example, i think that the partitions are not setup correctly, which is causing:
sd rear/write issues
apps 2 sd issues
sdcard pc mounting issues
internal storage being inaccessible issues
app storage memory low notifications
camera write image to sd issue
these are the major issues, but i think they are all tied to 1 single problem. other issues like the can't stop email sync, i can hear myself in my own earpiece and other non-critical problems are just small bugs that can easily be fixed and lived with until said fix.
most other issues i've read seem to either be account related or just user error
svtfmook said:
i don't think motorola meant it to be that way honestly, since all the specs released specifically say 8gb internal storage, which in the smartphone world means you can use it for storage. however, this isn't the case.
i think that they have their mtd/partition tables setup wrong and it could be fixed with an update. however, no one knows when an update will be coming and what changes it will bring. i think motorola has placed all their focus on the razr. so we get the shaft.
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If you read the specs it specifically says
Memory (9)
8gb
The footnote for (9) says
Available user memory varies due to the configuration of the phone, which varies by service provider.
Furthermore
Motorola goes on to say that the device does infact have 8gb internal storage, 4 of it is for downloaded apps, the other 4 is for the OS, Webtop application and the other preloaded apps.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...71812/~/internal-and-external-memory-(atrix-2)
So if Moto is saying the above, it seems to me they did infact mean for it to be like that. Just trying to clear up the misinfo so you guys aren't raising hell about nothing. But I do understand where you guys are coming from, I completely expected to have 8gb of internal storage as well and I think it's bs for Moto to advertise internal storage space by including the portion of it that's not accessible or useable to us. Agreed 100%.
I purchased a sprout cubby for my 3year old for Christmas im having an issue with the sd card... it seems the onboard drive was partitioned making the the second partition an internal sdcard my issue is this that partition is only 6gb of space and after only installing a handful of apps there is no space left for anything else.. id like to be able to move to apps to my 16gb external sdcard is there a way to do this eith by possibly dismounting the second partition or so other way I would prefer not to have to root the device at all as it will only be my 3 year olds tablet... this is the perfect device for her but I hate the lake of space...
please help!!!
Hi,
Unfortunately some of these tablets are a bit deceiving. They are advertised to have a specific amount of memory. However that does not take into account the amount of memory allocated towards system. But to only have 6 g off the bat seems a bit odd. There should be at least 10.
Now I also was unable to find anything relevant to your question for that device. It's not a common tablet for people who tinker. You can post your question here if you wish. However I truly do not think there is or will be a confirmed rooting method for this device.
Good luck!
markbencze said:
Hi,
Unfortunately some of these tablets are a bit deceiving. They are advertised to have a specific amount of memory. However that does not take into account the amount of memory allocated towards system. But to only have 6 g off the bat seems a bit odd. There should be at least 10.
Now I also was unable to find anything relevant to your question for that device. It's not a common tablet for people who tinker. You can post your question here if you wish. However I truly do not think there is or will be a confirmed rooting method for this device.
Good luck!
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There is about 40 some episodes and music videos pre installed that eats up most of the storage... I attempted to move these files to the external sdcard but after trying 17 some file manager apps non could move Any files to the external drive.. not sure what I'm doing wrong
todivine said:
There is about 40 some episodes and music videos pre installed that eats up most of the storage... I attempted to move these files to the external sdcard but after trying 17 some file manager apps non could move Any files to the external drive.. not sure what I'm doing wrong
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Unfortunately that's part of a security feature in Kitkat. However this thread may be of assistance to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724430
Can you please help a noob figure out where this post belongs?
I make no pretense to being a developer, and I was very hesitant to join XDA, but these are questions concerning modding which I have not found answers to, despite posting to a number of other Android forums, so I was forced to "raise my sights."
I have an LG Optimus Fuel L34C (KitKat). I am an Android noob but I have a history with Linux, so I know just enough about what goes on behind the KitKat curtain to make me dangerous. So yes, I also care about the journey. And I'm already heavily invested in this quest, so despite my lack of expertise, I'm willing to do the leg work to make it happen.
My one saving grace is I have a backup fetish. And I want to continue to make Nandroid backups even when the L34C's puny internal storage (1790 MB usable) is maxed out (or nearly so). But I don't want to resort to backups to the cloud because 1) it offends my inner geek that I have to rely on someone else for backup support, and 2) as a delusional paranoid, the concept of "the cloud" gives me the willies.
I'm using TWRP Manager (Root) for Nandroid backups now, but TWRP only can write to the internal SD. Which means that once internal storage is about half full, there's no longer enough space remaining for any more Nandroids. And a bare bones installation with just enough additional apps installed to perform the Nandroid already takes up about 700 MB. So there's no chance of any further Nandroid backups after downloading or installing just two or three hundred more MB.
So my primary goal is to be able to write Nandroid backups to the external SD card (or, pipe dream, to write them to USB). If this also allows me to install apps or store other (internal) data on the external card, so much the better.
I just bought a second L34C because the WiFi on the original L34C pooped the bed. So now I have a new and unmodded L34C to experiment on. I had (towel) rooted the old phone, write-enabled the external SD card and installed the TeamWin open recovery image v2.8. And I replaced the OE 4GB external SD card with a 16GB class 4 card, partitioned half in Fat32 and half in Ext3.
The primary obstacle was that I could never get the second partition on the 16GB card to mount, which prevented me even from experimenting with symlinks. I also installed the latest version of Link2SD, but when I tried to use it to move an app that Link2SD labeled as movable, I got this:
!Failure
App2SD is not supported by your device. Because your device has a primary external storage which is emulated from the internal storage. You can link the app in order to move its files to the SD card.
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Dunno why it's blaming Apps2SD unless Link2 is built around Apps2.
Curiously, I installed Aparted, too, and it was able to access (and process) the 2nd partition, even though it wasn't mounted. I've not heard this definitively but I'm led to believe this is down to the L34C's lack of support for init.d. So I downloaded a copy of daishi4u's custom boot image, which includes support for init.d, but the old phone crapped out before I could try it.
So with background in place, and a spanking new L34C in hand, on to the questions.
#1. With the current state of L34C/KitKat development, is what I'm asking even possible? Once the internal SD card has got too crowded for a Nandroid, is there a solution that will allow me to continue making local Nandroid backups? In particular, I'm thinking there might be another Nandroid backup app that I am unaware of that can write its backups to some location other than the internal SD card.
If this already has been accomplished (and is documented online), please just point me to the details and I'll get out of your hair.
2. I picked daishi4u's custom boot image because the reputation of daishi4u's work is known to me, and because it offered init.d support. If you think another boot image is preferable, please enlighten me.
3. Is Link2SD's problem with the L34C truly the emulated storage? I ask because I know developers typically code apps to make a best guess as to the cause of an error, but despite their best efforts, an app still is liable to be exposed to unanticipated conditions, resulting in a problem that might be beyond the scope of their programming to understand and enunciate.
4. Is the lack of init.d support in fact what prevents an L34C mounting additional partitions on the external SD card? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
5.a. I found a post in another forum that was near three years old stating that the extra partition on an Android external SD card must be no more than 2GB, and preferably just 1GB. If this ever was true, is it still the case for KitKat? And what is the source of the limitation?
5.b. If there is a 2GB partition limit, is there a limit to how many 2GB partitions can be externally mounted? A Nandroid backup of a heavily configured L34C could take up most of 2GB, so it would be especially useful work-around if there were one (additional) partition for the Nandroid and a second (or third, or fourth, ...) for moving apps and random data off the internal SD.
6. Which app(s) would you suggest I try for moving apps/data/folders to the external SD? There are so many available, and I have not been able to find any comparisons/contrasts of their relative merits, so I would appreciate your recommendations to avoid having to resort to the 'shotgun' approach. This is presuming I'm able to get more than one partition on the external SD card to mount.
I've not lost sight of the fact that some of these apps do not require a second partition on the SD card (creating something functionally akin to an iSCSI partition on it?), but I'm not counting on finding a solution in one of them.
Thank you for taking the time to read my long-winded post.
Well personally I don't keep more than one nandroid on my phone but what you may wish to do is transfer them to your pc for safe keeping and not have to worry about it. You could also try inserting your sd card into your pc and manually transferring the nandroids from your pc to your sd card afterwards. It may work.
Now with regards to the sd card write protection issue, I could not locate anything for your device in particular but if you register you can ask your question here and someone may be able to help you.
I have a rooted XT912V Verizon Motorola Razr-Maxx (original).
This phone has safestrap 2.75. Recently updated to CM13. It has pico gapps and a core set of the typical Google apps we all LIKE vs the ones we dont
Anyways....
Developers mode is enabled. I am able to go into memory and storage (or APPS), and can move a few of the apps, but not many. The phone only has 2GB main storage, and every app downloaded from the store INSISTS on installing on this 2GB space. Its very irritating. The phone also has 8GB of internal storage space, non removable.
With that said, I have a few questions.
1.) Why can't I format the internal fixed 8GB as proprietary internal storage vs portable? There seems to be NO WAY to do this. (rather preposterous).
2.) Why do only some apps have the option to be moved and others dont? Is it a "System App" setting which disallows this? Can it be overwritten?
3.) Given the issues, why cant I change the memory space the phone uses for RAM to at least the built in 8GB? Can I partition the XD card (removable) and set it as part internal part portable?
Shame on Google for getting so sloppy with their software. Things like disk management and storage space, log file backups, and clean up should come and the first feature after providing an OS. Granted I am using CM, but I digress - its no better on stock on any of my other devices.
Thanks for any help you can provide. I googled, and searched on threads here. I'm really not looking to be pointed to a thread for an app that requires busybox and other hoops to be jumped through. I'm looking for information on why it is like this, is it being fixed, or is "fixing" it to make it MORE like this. Can I do this manually via adb? I'm not a linux novice but I have a lot to learn about Android and loading more apps on the phone from what I've read so far is unclear if it will work and continue to work. Some people have said in threads they move it manually after each app they load. I don't mind that, but I want to understand what makes an app declare itself as NON movable.
Thank you
noybman said:
I have a rooted XT912V Verizon Motorola Razr-Maxx (original).
This phone has safestrap 2.75. Recently updated to CM13. It has pico gapps and a core set of the typical Google apps we all LIKE vs the ones we dont
Anyways....
Developers mode is enabled. I am able to go into memory and storage (or APPS), and can move a few of the apps, but not many. The phone only has 2GB main storage, and every app downloaded from the store INSISTS on installing on this 2GB space. Its very irritating. The phone also has 8GB of internal storage space, non removable.
With that said, I have a few questions.
1.) Why can't I format the internal fixed 8GB as proprietary internal storage vs portable? There seems to be NO WAY to do this. (rather preposterous).
2.) Why do only some apps have the option to be moved and others dont? Is it a "System App" setting which disallows this? Can it be overwritten?
3.) Given the issues, why cant I change the memory space the phone uses for RAM to at least the built in 8GB? Can I partition the XD card (removable) and set it as part internal part portable?
Shame on Google for getting so sloppy with their software. Things like disk management and storage space, log file backups, and clean up should come and the first feature after providing an OS. Granted I am using CM, but I digress - its no better on stock on any of my other devices.
Thanks for any help you can provide. I googled, and searched on threads here. I'm really not looking to be pointed to a thread for an app that requires busybox and other hoops to be jumped through. I'm looking for information on why it is like this, is it being fixed, or is "fixing" it to make it MORE like this. Can I do this manually via adb? I'm not a linux novice but I have a lot to learn about Android and loading more apps on the phone from what I've read so far is unclear if it will work and continue to work. Some people have said in threads they move it manually after each app they load. I don't mind that, but I want to understand what makes an app declare itself as NON movable.
Thank you
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Hi,
I couldn't find much information about your device here. Try posting your query in
Android Q&A,Help and Troubleshooting
or in the Q&A thread here->[Ask Any Question][Newbie Friendly].
Experts there may be able to assist you.
Good luck
Art Vanderlay
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Hi Friends
I have got a One plus 7 phone having 128GB Internal memory from a friend who has accidentally Reset it causing loss of photos.
I want to access phone's internal memory fully to recover data.
I have asked him to root it and bring to me for recovery. He has taken it to some expert who has enabled Developer mode and Rooted phone.
So when I check Debugging mode is enabled , Developer options are selected and phone is rooted.
However Still internal memory is not accessible. I have checked with person who has done rooting.
He said he has done System rooting and storage Rooting also needed to fully access internal memory. I tried Kingosoft Rooting software which failed to Root the phone.
Can someone pls. let me know how to make Storage Rooting ?
Thanks.
If a Factory Reset was applied then all user-data got wiped, means they no longer are accesssible by you: it would need forensic tools to recover them.
To create a bitwise copy of the storage space where the wiped data physically still are located - typically in partition /data - phone's Android must be rooted and accessible by ADB.
BTW: A phone's Android is rooted when in Android OS a binary called su is present and executable.
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jwoegerbauer​Thanks for replying. I want to recover data and whatever software needed I will buy, My concern is already I have done what you say but still phone memory is not accessible.
As you said A phone's Android is rooted when in Android OS a binary called su is present and executable.
Can you pls. outline how to achieve this
How utterly st-.-pid is that? Why not doing it right and backup the pictures in the first place to Google or sth? No backup, no mercy. How can people be that ....... and run around taking pictures and only having the version inside the phone? I would not invest a single dime in this and if it is you who lost the pictures let it be a lesson to you.
Btw, pretty sure, there is no way of recovering anything here after that wipe.
Dear terry
Not every person in the world is having similar knowledge and resources for backup learn technology. In countries like India 60% population even does not know what is mobile forget about rooting and backing up. Household peoples , housewifes students kids are there who know basic only. I think you will have to to broaden your knowledge about the world
There is no internet ,staorage cloud space with 90% poor population.
What you are telling is considering europe /USA and developed countries.
Don't forget developing and poor countries as well.
I will try even if it is not going to work. But doing nothing and simply telling its not recoverable is not good idea.